Vanishing photos and screenshots - Verizon LG G4

I've had my G4 for about 3 weeks now. I've found some strange behavior. My photos and screenshots keep disappearing from my device. I haven't done anything that might be a side effect of losing images in the past 2 weeks. No apps removed or installed. No changes in any settings. I've just been using it like I normally would, but my images keep vanishing. Anyone else experience this or should I go scream at someone at Verizon?
Side note. All my ringtones, alarm tones, notification sounds that I copied from my other device to this one have also gone missing. I don't know if the two are related or not.

valerinism said:
I've had my G4 for about 3 weeks now. I've found some strange behavior. My photos and screenshots keep disappearing from my device. I haven't done anything that might be a side effect of losing images in the past 2 weeks. No apps removed or installed. No changes in any settings. I've just been using it like I normally would, but my images keep vanishing. Anyone else experience this or should I go scream at someone at Verizon?
Side note. All my ringtones, alarm tones, notification sounds that I copied from my other device to this one have also gone missing. I don't know if the two are related or not.
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Did you put them all on a microSD card? If so, the card might be defective.

I don't have an sd card installed. Never have.

valerinism said:
I don't have an sd card installed. Never have.
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u got a few options.
1. update the phone via ota update. if u want root then skip this
2. factory reset the phone to see if it dose it again. if it dose u looking at 2 thi gs. the os is glitchy. i had the same with jasmaine rom for g3 or the phones internal drive is bad so send it in for a replacement

I had this exact same problem. My issue ended up being that my micro sd card was shot and files were becoming corrupted.

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I don't know what's going on

My phone has been acting really weird. Throughout the day, I will check my phone and see the time. I am using Fancy Widget Pro and for some reason, after a while, the time on the widget and system no longer match. It's about a 5 to 15 minute difference. It really depends. I was also using setCPU and when I would charge it and the take out the charger, SetCPU would not change back to the profile that I made. Another problem I have noticed is when I plug the USB-microUSB from the computer to the phone, when I finish and take the cord out, the computer knows it's gone, but my phone still thinks it is there. The only other problem I can think of, which is the biggest, is I don't think I am receiving text messages. I sent a couple to myself, and never got them. The only way that I know to fix this problem is to restart my phone, but I never get those texts back. Any help would be awesome. I have already tried Odin and going back to a different stock ROM. I have also done countless factory resets. I have no clue what is going on. If you need anymore info on what I am running or anything, just let me know. Once again, any help would be awesome.
P.S. I am on EH06, deodexed and pre-rooted. I also flashed maddoggin's lockscreen mod. I don't know if that helps, but I might as well put it there.
Thank you.
bedtyyyme said:
My phone has been acting really weird. Throughout the day, I will check my phone and see the time. I am using Fancy Widget Pro and for some reason, after a while, the time on the widget and system no longer match. It's about a 5 to 15 minute difference. It really depends. I was also using setCPU and when I would charge it and the take out the charger, SetCPU would not change back to the profile that I made. Another problem I have noticed is when I plug the USB-microUSB from the computer to the phone, when I finish and take the cord out, the computer knows it's gone, but my phone still thinks it is there. The only other problem I can think of, which is the biggest, is I don't think I am receiving text messages. I sent a couple to myself, and never got them. The only way that I know to fix this problem is to restart my phone, but I never get those texts back. Any help would be awesome. I have already tried Odin and going back to a different stock ROM. I have also done countless factory resets. I have no clue what is going on. If you need anymore info on what I am running or anything, just let me know. Once again, any help would be awesome.
P.S. I am on EH06, deodexed and pre-rooted. I also flashed maddoggin's lockscreen mod. I don't know if that helps, but I might as well put it there.
Thank you.
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Have you frozen and services/programs? This is the only thing I can think of, but I am no where near an expert!
adamdelozier said:
Have you frozen and services/programs? This is the only thing I can think of, but I am no where near an expert!
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No I have not. Will that really change anything? I just flashed stock EH17 (unrooted) to my phone to see if that would stop this from happening. What would I freeze?
bedtyyyme said:
No I have not. Will that really change anything? I just flashed stock EH17 (unrooted) to my phone to see if that would stop this from happening. What would I freeze?
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Well, i guess if you were freezing programs, maybe something got frozen that was related to updating. The USB issue i have had in the past, and that has always been fixed by a reflash for me. The time not updating, I have had that as well, and for me it was related to Juice Defender and my data settings. I am not sure how much flashing you do, but I have noticed that if I have flashed a few ROMS/Themes/Kernels, over the course of a few days (especially going back and forth from Froyo to GB) I will start getting all kinds of weird issues happening. Usually when that happens, I will back up my SD card, wipe it and reformat it, Odin back to stock EC05, and start the whole process over again with re-rooting. Sorry if this was not much help. Just trying to give my experience, albeit limited!
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bedtyyyme said:
No I have not. Will that really change anything? I just flashed stock EH17 (unrooted) to my phone to see if that would stop this from happening. What would I freeze?
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And I forgot the texts not sending or receiving has been issues with clearing L1/L2 memory from task manager...
adamdelozier said:
Well, i guess if you were freezing programs, maybe something got frozen that was related to updating. The USB issue i have had in the past, and that has always been fixed by a reflash for me. The time not updating, I have had that as well, and for me it was related to Juice Defender and my data settings. I am not sure how much flashing you do, but I have noticed that if I have flashed a few ROMS/Themes/Kernels, over the course of a few days (especially going back and forth from Froyo to GB) I will start getting all kinds of weird issues happening. Usually when that happens, I will back up my SD card, wipe it and reformat it, Odin back to stock EC05, and start the whole process over again with re-rooting. Sorry if this was not much help. Just trying to give my experience, albeit limited!
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No, I appreciate it. I have been flashing a lot lately. I have never re-formatted my SD card, but I am sure I could figure out how to do that. I was thinking it was the ROM I had, but then I flashed a different ROM and it still did it. I will go about reformatting my SD card and let you know how that goes. Thanks for the info man.
bedtyyyme said:
No, I appreciate it. I have been flashing a lot lately. I have never re-formatted my SD card, but I am sure I could figure out how to do that. I was thinking it was the ROM I had, but then I flashed a different ROM and it still did it. I will go about reformatting my SD card and let you know how that goes. Thanks for the info man.
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Hey, no problem. To reformat the SD card, what I have done, is just copy the whole card to me PC, then go into CWM and there is formatting options in the mount and storage section if i remember correctly. then, i will just copy back the apk's and pics, music, etc...
I have 2 questions.
1) When you reformat your SD card, did that solve your problems?
2) I went into task manager and didn't see L1 or L2 RAM. Where do I look?
bedtyyyme said:
I have 2 questions.
1) When you reformat your SD card, did that solve your problems?
2) I went into task manager and didn't see L1 or L2 RAM. Where do I look?
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1) fixes some problems, definitely increased stability, if you do a lot of deleting, adding, moving, etc..
2) in task manager click on the RAM manger tab. But seeing as Android managers memory on its own, clearing L1 and L2 RAM is useless and only causes problems (sending and receiving texts) in my opinion.
adamdelozier said:
1) fixes some problems, definitely increased stability, if you do a lot of deleting, adding, moving, etc..
2) in task manager click on the RAM manger tab. But seeing as Android managers memory on its own, clearing L1 and L2 RAM is useless and only causes problems (sending and receiving texts) in my opinion.
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I am formatting as we speak.
Do you know what aspect of a fragmented sd card wld cause those issues. I've had the clock issue using fancy widgets and cldnt find the cause. Is that something than can be rectified without formatting my card. Where and what are diff roms putting on the external sd card besides the android secure folder. Sorry I'm pretty ignorant re: flash media fragmentation. Doesn't make sense to me brains.
adamdelozier, thank you very much man. Seemed to have fixed my problem...... Been running it all day after the format and everything is working great. Once again, thank you very much.
bedtyyyme said:
adamdelozier, thank you very much man. Seemed to have fixed my problem...... Been running it all day after the format and everything is working great. Once again, thank you very much.
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Glad you are up and running! Feels good to actually help someone else for a change!!
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bedtyyyme said:
adamdelozier, thank you very much man. Seemed to have fixed my problem...... Been running it all day after the format and everything is working great. Once again, thank you very much.
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[Q] Camera Failed issue...

Ok So I'm having some issues with my SGSII
I am rooted and I'm running Juggernaut v3.7
When I try and use my camera app I get a warning: camera failed message
It started off happening after my phone had been on for a while (I would get the error message and then reboot and the camera would work fine for a short amount of time, before the error message returned) now I am getting this error message constantly and the only way to get the camera working again is If I reboot into CWM and wipe data,cache,dalvik & reboot or go through the wipe process and re-flash the Juggernaut v3.7 rom. But still even doing so only enables the camera once and then I'm back to my original issues. I've searched the site and other resources available before making this post. Most of the information I have come across with users having similar problems refer to the I9000 and not the SGH-T989.
So my questions are (of course):
Has anyone had these issues?
Has anyone that has had these issues (if any) found a solution?
And does anyone know If this is hardware or firmware related? - (Or can someone point me to the right procedure of figuring out if it is a hardware or firmware issue?)
Hope to hear from someone soon thanks XDA
Sounds like hardware, or could be kernel, you could try a different kernel ..
Best way would be to Odin back to Stock, and see if it still does it, if it does it on pure stock , you know it is a hardware issue ...
tcboo said:
Sounds like hardware, or could be kernel, you could try a different kernel ..
Best way would be to Odin back to Stock, and see if it still does it, if it does it on pure stock , you know it is a hardware issue ...
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Thank you for the reply, I have found a solution to the problem (so far at least no issues) I removed the sd card, re-inserted the sd card and did an sd card format and the problem has gone away. Well at least for the last 12 or so hours anyways. Hope this helps anyone with the same problem.
I was just about to say, check your SD card. Same damn thing happened to me a few weeks ago. All it takes is one corrupted image on the card to completely bork the camera.
kabuk1 said:
I was just about to say, check your SD card. Same damn thing happened to me a few weeks ago. All it takes is one corrupted image on the card to completely bork the camera.
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Yeah, I was just messing around with it and figured out that the sd card format may have been corrupt, or it could have been a bad file messing with the camera process in android. T-mobile actually sent me a new one that should be delivered today, I'm going to have to send it back now that I have it figured out. lolol
**BTW** I'm using your throttle fix lolol thanks
No problem, glad to help
Hey...not so fast...LOL!
Totally hate to revive such and old thread, but I am currently experiencing the exact same issue using Juggernaut 5.0, and the VKL1 radio, with faux10m kernel. I have in fact remove all external sd cards, and still the camera app keeps giving me Camera Failed. I'm wondering if I install a differnt camera app from Google Play, if this will be a solution? Any tips/advice is quite welcome. I'll be back and let you know if installing another camera app works! Thanks in advance.
I had the same message as the OP pop up when I had my vibrant. I ended up having to buy a replacement camera.
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This happened to me after throwing my phone at my bed, it bouncing off, and hitting the wall. When activating my camera, I got the message.
Called T-Mobile, told them the problem, and got a refurb. Now my phone has all sorts of problems!

Can't save screenshots

I just bought an HTC Desire 816 smartphone running KitKat 4.4.2. Before today, I was able to capture screenshots the same way I do so on my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet, by holding down the Power button and the Volume control button. But today, I did that and received a 2-line notification that said:
Couldn't capture scree...
Couldn't save screenshot. Storage ma...
I tried to turn the phone horizontally so that perhaps more of the message would show up, but although I have "auto-rotate" checked and it works on other screens, it doesn't do so here. I have no idea what the problem is nor how to fix it. I'd be most grateful for some help.
"Sorage ma..." seems as if you don't have enough storage on your internal SD to store that picture?? All I can think of if you were able to do it before. Try freeing up some internal memory.
FoxyDrew said:
"Sorage ma..." seems as if you don't have enough storage on your internal SD to store that picture?? All I can think of if you were able to do it before. Try freeing up some internal memory.
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Thanks for your quick response. According to the figures in Storage, I've got 2.20 GB still available, so lack of internal memory doesn't seem to be the problem. And I'm frustrated at not even being able to read the whole notification message.
CQueen816 said:
Thanks for your quick response. According to the figures in Storage, I've got 2.20 GB still available, so lack of internal memory doesn't seem to be the problem. And I'm frustrated at not even being able to read the whole notification message.
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Try deleting some stuff anyways
Well, I am surprised and happy to report that the screenshot storage problem seems to have cured itself :fingers-crossed: . I decided to try to make another screenshot and see what happened. I simply made a shot of my home screen, and it worked the way it was supposed to. The screenshot was stored under Pictures/Screenshots, and the puzzling "Couldn't capture scree..." notification disappeared. I'm still curious about what the entire two lines said, but for now, I'm going to move on to other things I don't understand about my new phone.
The notification said that its not possible to save screenshot and that its possible that you dont have enough memory(i have btw) and my screenshot didnt "cure" itself, idk what to do...

G4 H815L Freezes on calls and hang up

Hello there,
I've searched this problem over google for several times now, with no results hitting the problem i seem to have.
In depth, the problem is so:
Whilst in a call, after t (a certain amount of time which is not fixed) time (it can be seconds or minutes), I suddenly stop hearing the other person, and the phone won't respond to any attempts of hanging up myself. after a few more seconds frozen there's a *pwahh* sound and it hangs up.
any ideas what could this be?
almogkm said:
Hello there,
I've searched this problem over google for several times now, with no results hitting the problem i seem to have.
In depth, the problem is so:
Whilst in a call, after t (a certain amount of time which is not fixed) time (it can be seconds or minutes), I suddenly stop hearing the other person, and the phone won't respond to any attempts of hanging up myself. after a few more seconds frozen there's a *pwahh* sound and it hangs up.
any ideas what could this be?
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Hi Almog,
I live in Israel also and have LG G4 H815L also.
I don't have the problem you mentioned.
Maybe the problem is with your cellular carrier. Try to insert different SIM card (from different carrier) and see if the problem continues, if yes, try to factory reset your phone.
Al0n said:
Hi Almog,
I live in Israel also and have LG G4 H815L also.
I don't have the problem you mentioned.
Maybe the problem is with your cellular carrier. Try to insert different SIM card (from different carrier) and see if the problem continues, if yes, try to factory reset your phone.
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I'll try it. But if it doesn't work? what might cause such problems?
After a bit of cunsoltion someone told me it might be a motherboard issue, could it be so?
almogkm said:
I'll try it. But if it doesn't work? what might cause such problems?
After a bit of cunsoltion someone told me it might be a motherboard issue, could it be so?
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first of all when did this problem started?(played with the theme on your phone ?changed icon pack? after you installed certain app? updated software?changed battery(not from the 2 you got with the phone) ? changed you screen protector lately? switched network?played with the dialer settings?did you update any application?changed any thing?)
basically if you dont think you have done any of the above just do factory reset...but before you do that download cpu z make sure all of the 6 cores are up and that the clock speed is 384 Mhz - 1.82Ghz if it does not show that you probably have a problem with the motherboard..(although you can still have a problem even if it does show its not an official indicator lol)
some of those thing might sound stupid but...when it started is the key to this.
honestly i would start with place the original battery than check if i have the correct network settings than cpu z than roll back anything i touched to default(settings and theme) than check if i disabled any app/service that might be needed than shut down background applications (1 by 1 ) after that uninstalling applications(1 by 1) after that factory reset after that take off the screen protector(which he might be even a little over the proximity sensor and than it will make the phone go crazy) and than send it to LG to fix it.
xzfzx said:
first of all when did this problem started?(played with the theme on your phone ?changed icon pack? after you installed certain app? updated software?changed battery(not from the 2 you got with the phone) ? changed you screen protector lately? switched network?played with the dialer settings?did you update any application?changed any thing?)
basically if you dont think you have done any of the above just do factory reset...but before you do that download cpu z make sure all of the 6 cores are up and that the clock speed is 384 Mhz - 1.82Ghz if it does not show that you probably have a problem with the motherboard..(although you can still have a problem even if it does show its not an official indicator lol)
some of those thing might sound stupid but...when it started is the key to this.
honestly i would start with place the original battery than check if i have the correct network settings than cpu z than roll back anything i touched to default(settings and theme) than check if i disabled any app/service that might be needed than shut down background applications (1 by 1 ) after that uninstalling applications(1 by 1) after that factory reset after that take off the screen protector(which he might be even a little over the proximity sensor and than it will make the phone go crazy) and than send it to LG to fix it.
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well, i obviously changed things on my phone if change means to download an app and update it once in a while..
i've tried to switch SIMs with a friend who's using a different carrier and it didn't happen, although today it didn't happen.. i'll try getting a new SIM card, and if that doesn't work i'll try factory reset, and if THAT doesn't work than i'll send it to LG.
the hussle of checking each individual setting change is to damn big.
almogkm said:
well, i obviously changed things on my phone if change means to download an app and update it once in a while..
i've tried to switch SIMs with a friend who's using a different carrier and it didn't happen, although today it didn't happen.. i'll try getting a new SIM card, and if that doesn't work i'll try factory reset, and if THAT doesn't work than i'll send it to LG.
the hussle of checking each individual setting change is to damn big.
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=)
i just hate factory reset ,because when you think you got all the apps you had installed suddenly when you need an app the most you realize that you forgot to reinstall it. lol
i know you can backup your apps but i always forget to do that.
but you are right , check individual app could be frustrating, but you can eliminate default apps or common apps such as facebook or whatsapp and such because if they were the source to the problem they will probably fix it in a day or two and you would see more people complaining about it.

Apps to SD card?

Does this phone not support this feature? For the life of me I can't get any of my games/apps to change storage from Internal to SD card. I tried with 3rd party apps and I tried via SETTINGS - General - Apps - Storage ... no option to save to External SD card
Is the MicroSD only good for saving your pics, videos and other media files? That really sucks if that's the case
Doesn't seem to be present. Inexcusable for any Android phone..I don't understand why even a flagship phone wouldn't have this other than less future proofing. Not sure I'll ever have a hundred gb of *apps* but still. You can turn on force apps to be installable on external storage in the dev options but that doesn't really open anything up. Whether it will auto extend installations to SD card when onboard storage is full like I've seen some phones do I don't know.
I found one article that claims the sd can be formatted as internal storage. Has anybody tried this?
Since I wasn't able to get a concrete answer online I called LG customer service and she told me the external storage is only good for pictures and "files" and apps can't be installed to the SD card. IDK, take that for what it's worth
DrivenKeys said:
I found one article that claims the sd can be formatted as internal storage. Has anybody tried this?
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I formatted the SD card two days ago when I first got the phone and the SD card but I don't remember any such option.
According to this article not all apps can be moved
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/move-android-apps-to-sd-card,news-21279.html
SantinoInc said:
I formatted the SD card two days ago when I first got the phone and the SD card but I don't remember any such option.
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Same. Why is this still a thing in these phones? It should be basic function. I'm close to swapping out this damn thing for something else because it's got so many dumb little flaws out of laziness. I didnt notice right away but there is no flashlight option in the swipedown menu, either! Nor can it be added from available options by pressing edit. Had to install a damn app for it! I suppose I'll look into rooting it
RaggyD said:
Same. Why is this still a thing in these phones? It should be basic function. I'm close to swapping out this damn thing for something else because it's got so many dumb little flaws out of laziness. I didnt notice right away but there is no flashlight option in the swipedown menu, either! Nor can it be added from available options by pressing edit. Had to install a damn app for it! I suppose I'll look into rooting it
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Maybe just your version, I have one.
RaggyD said:
Same. Why is this still a thing in these phones? It should be basic function. I'm close to swapping out this damn thing for something else because it's got so many dumb little flaws out of laziness. I didnt notice right away but there is no flashlight option in the swipedown menu, either! Nor can it be added from available options by pressing edit. Had to install a damn app for it! I suppose I'll look into rooting it
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I'm sorry to hear about your flashlight! My tmo version has the swipedown flashlight. I wonder if you have the flashlight in the aod? Mine is in the always on display when you swipe right on the icons below the clock. Which carrier and country version do you have?
No swipedown flashlight is a huge mistake. If it makes you feel any better, I'm mad they don't have a wifi hotspot button in the swipedown anymore. I had to put a stupid widget on my home screen.
I agree, not sure why they'd neglect the transfer apps to sd function. My S8 did it with almost any app once the dev option was activated.
Ugh, locked bootloaders....
DrivenKeys said:
I'm sorry to hear about your flashlight! My tmo version has the swipedown flashlight. I wonder if you have the flashlight in the aod? Mine is in the always on display when you swipe right on the icons below the clock. Which carrier and country version do you have?
No swipedown flashlight is a huge mistake. If it makes you feel any better, I'm mad they don't have a wifi hotspot button in the swipedown anymore. I had to put a stupid widget on my home screen.
I agree, not sure why they'd neglect the transfer apps to sd function. My S8 did it with almost any app once the dev option was activated.
Ugh, locked bootloaders....
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I actually have the flashlight in the pull down menu. At least one feature works...although I think I used it 3x in like 5 years. Give me apps 2 SD and silent shutter!
Even if you force it via developer option, not all apps will work properly. Maybe it has to do with how the apps interact with the processes on the device like location, etc?
http://tinypic.com/r/29vxni0/9
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Septembersrain said:
Even if you force it via developer option, not all apps will work properly. Maybe it has to do with how the apps interact with the processes on the device like location, etc?
http://tinypic.com/r/29vxni0/9
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I ticked off FORCE TO ALLOW TO SD card and I still can't move a single app to SD. I gave up on it already
SantinoInc said:
I ticked off FORCE TO ALLOW TO SD card and I still can't move a single app to SD. I gave up on it already
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I'm sorry. It was the only option I knew and I was only able to get one or two apps to work. Once the device restarted, the apps quit working.
DrivenKeys said:
I'm sorry to hear about your flashlight! My tmo version has the swipedown flashlight. I wonder if you have the flashlight in the aod? Mine is in the always on display when you swipe right on the icons below the clock. Which carrier and country version do you have?
No swipedown flashlight is a huge mistake. If it makes you feel any better, I'm mad they don't have a wifi hotspot button in the swipedown anymore. I had to put a stupid widget on my home screen.
I agree, not sure why they'd neglect the transfer apps to sd function. My S8 did it with almost any app once the dev option was activated.
Ugh, locked bootloaders....
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It's North American, bought it unlocked. At least regarding WiFi hotspot, I can now tether vs my previous phone (a little Huawei elate/h1711z) which was cricket locked so it required me to pay (never). Same SIM card tho. The aod..I tried that. I had to turn on quick tools and it was there. It also put the flashlight into the swipe down display?? It's possible I didn't see it but previously I had two rows of four options on the full pull down, and a third row of three with a blank spot. Now it's three rows of four, with the flashlight in the previously blank spot. I feel like my phone is gaslighting me haha.
Septembersrain said:
I'm sorry. It was the only option I knew and I was only able to get one or two apps to work. Once the device restarted, the apps quit working.
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No need to apologize. I wasn't trying to be confrontational. This phone is lacking in a few basic ways which really sucks. I would complain to them but I feel like it would go no where.
RaggyD said:
It's North American, bought it unlocked. At least regarding WiFi hotspot, I can now tether vs my previous phone (a little Huawei elate/h1711z) which was cricket locked so it required me to pay (never). Same SIM card tho. The aod..I tried that. I had to turn on quick tools and it was there. It also put the flashlight into the swipe down display?? It's possible I didn't see it but previously I had two rows of four options on the full pull down, and a third row of three with a blank spot. Now it's three rows of four, with the flashlight in the previously blank spot. I feel like my phone is gaslighting me haha.
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Interesting differences, I'm glad it kicked in for you. Although I'm grateful for the tmo payment plan, I'm jealous that your unlocked phone has native, unmonitored hotspot. I had to use the widget, because tmo replaces the app with their own, so I can't tether nearly as much as I'd like. I wouldn't care that much, but we can only get dsl here, and my phone is actually faster.

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