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[Q] Debranding and Rooting O2 uk

I'm new to android phones so kinda looking at some hand holding atm.
My phone is O2 but atm I'm using tesco's sim in it. When I put a sim in it asks me 2 options and I just select pay as you go (planning to switch to giffgaff at some point).
So a few questions. I want to debrand my phone from all the O2 stuff. Whats the best way to do this?
1: Root it and flash the latest stock rom on it? Or just root it and delete all the 02 stuff from it.
2: If I put a new stock rom on it will the phone still be sim unlocked?
3: I've read a lot of posts about backing up data and stuff but still not 100% how to do this. Could I make a back-up of the whole phone as it is now so that if I do something wrong I can just re-flash it with the original 02 stuff included? In other words can I make a copy of the firmware that is already on there. Not worried about the data.
EDIT: Think I've answered this myself. I can use Rom Manager to back it up to sd card and then put it on my pc for future use if needed.
4: Found this on the forums somewhere. It's for sgs2 but guess the apps are the same as the sgw when it comes to safe removal. Safe apps to removel
Cheers

Think I've answered most of my questions except the most important one to me. So if anyone can help be most appreciative.
As I said my phone is branded with o2 stuff and when I put the sim in it asks me my payment plan, pay monthly or pay as you go (I'm using a tesco sim not o2 and it works fine). If I flash the phone with a stock rom via odin will my phone still be unlocked and just de-branded, or will some nasty o2 bite me in bum and lock my sim to o2 now? Don't want to risk it if that will happen.
Cheers

blitz_32 said:
Think I've answered most of my questions except the most important one to me. So if anyone can help be most appreciative.
As I said my phone is branded with o2 stuff and when I put the sim in it asks me my payment plan, pay monthly or pay as you go (I'm using a tesco sim not o2 and it works fine). If I flash the phone with a stock rom via odin will my phone still be unlocked and just de-branded, or will some nasty o2 bite me in bum and lock my sim to o2 now? Don't want to risk it if that will happen.
Cheers
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Just to check Network Lock Status [SIM Lock]: Dialler input *#7465625#
You should see this:
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To back out, just tap OK button.......
If SIM locked, there is presently no method that is not paid-for, unless someone has come up with a method recently!! So, you will have to pay someone for SIM unlock, based on your IMEI......usually about £15-£20. [To get IMEI from Dialler: *#06#]
Don't like that Payment Plan message....my Phone is on Tesco Ireland network, and I get no messages!!! SIM unlocked should not get messages, IMHO.
BTW, I would not use ROM Manager on this phone, it is not supported, there is no CWM Recovery in ROM Manager list for Galaxy W [GT-i8150].....
be very careful!! you could Brick Phone!!!
Best thing is to Flash CWM for this phone, via ODIN, and do a Nandroid back-up, save to external sd, there is an option, otherwise Nandroid will go to Internal USB Storage....
this will be a snap-shot of everything on your Phone at the moment of back-up.....including all Apps and Data on Internal Storage....
External SD Card is not backed up by Nandroid presently, but it should remain as is, unless you wipe it, or modify data on it.....so moved apps will still be there, for example.
But, before you do, check unlock status, as above, and also is phone rooted, as you may need to root phone, and best way is with Stock Recovery.
Flashing Guides:
Arco's ClockworkMod Recovery Version 5.5.0.4
THE-E Guide to Flashing FW with ODIN, and more!!

Cheers for that Irishpancake. I checked on my phone and all are 'OFF' except Network Lock. So how is it I'm using a non o2 sim in it, Tescos? Guess I may have to pay for it to be unlocked.
I've read all of The-E's guide to flashing (D/L most of the files ready to go and put them in Odin, just not plugged my phone in) but will have to read up more about CWM. Do I do CWM first to back everything up then root the phone before flashing?
One other thing, In a previous post you put up a link to your drop box for a recovery md5. What is this for as I d/l it thinking it was a stock rom but noticed the small file size compared to The-E stock rom in his original post.
Sorry to be a pain but just want to be clear before I start.

blitz_32 said:
Cheers for that Irishpancake. I checked on my phone and all are 'OFF' except Network Lock. So how is it I'm using a non o2 sim in it, Tescos? Guess I may have to pay for it to be unlocked.
I've read all of The-E's guide to flashing (D/L most of the files ready to go and put them in Odin, just not plugged my phone in) but will have to read up more about CWM. Do I do CWM first to back everything up then root the phone before flashing?
One other thing, In a previous post you put up a link to your drop box for a recovery md5. What is this for as I d/l it thinking it was a stock rom but noticed the small file size compared to The-E stock rom in his original post.
Sorry to be a pain but just want to be clear before I start.
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Network Lock is normally called SIM Lock.....sorry, looks like your phone is locked to your SIM provider???
Perhaps O2 and Tesco have a relationship....in Ireland Tesco uses O2 Network, as a Virtual Operator, MVNO ...looking here it seems the same!!!
however, AFAIK, if you want to move to GiffGaff, for example, you will need Network Unlock....
If you want to Root, I suggest doing this before flashing CWM, as the best Root method requires Stock Recovery, which you already have!!!
Here is THE-E HowTo Guide for Root
After successful rooting, then follow the CWR Flash Guide, previously linked....
The Stock Recovery I hosted was as a favour for user QAU5881, who could not download from RapidShare, not a ROM, but what you have already!!!
but won't have once you flash CWM!!!
cheers, and Good Luck...and ask if there is anything else

Thanks Irishpancake. I was getting confused as to the difference between stock recovery and CWM and what they did. Found this which cleared my confusion up a lot. Basicly CWM gives you more options and if you don't want it flash back to stock for OTA updates.
One thing though. Once I unlock my phone it stays unlocked and flashing new roms on it won't bugger that up. Think I know the answer to that already but as I said in my first post, hand holding! Who knows, one day I may be of use to some other newbie and answer his questions.

blitz_32 said:
Thanks Irishpancake. I was getting confused as to the difference between stock recovery and CWM and what they did. Found this which cleared my confusion up a lot. Basicly CWM gives you more options and if you don't want it flash back to stock for OTA updates.
One thing though. Once I unlock my phone it stays unlocked and flashing new roms on it won't bugger that up. Think I know the answer to that already but as I said in my first post, hand holding! Who knows, one day I may be of use to some other newbie and answer his questions.
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Yeah, once network unlocked, stays unlocked!!!
There are more options in our CWR, as we have External SD, and internal SD....
so this is catered for in where back-ups are stored, and where device is restored from!!
But, don't forget, if you sre going to root phone, do it before you flash CWR, i.e. with Stock Recovery [This is default Samsung Recovery]...

Cheers Irishpancake. I have asked this on another thread but haven't got a reply so hoping you can help me once more
I've rooted it now and got CWM on it but can't find a uk stock rom. Someone said to use any Euro one but not sure they will support radio etc. Which one would you suggest?
Also if I do a back-up on cwm will it be just as my phone is now, including rom and apps I have on the internal sd. Guess it doesn't back up external one which is where I've D/L my stuff to!

blitz_32 said:
Cheers Irishpancake. I have asked this on another thread but haven't got a reply so hoping you can help me once more
I've rooted it now and got CWM on it but can't find a uk stock rom. Someone said to use any Euro one but not sure they will support radio etc. Which one would you suggest?
Also if I do a back-up on cwm will it be just as my phone is now, including rom and apps I have on the internal sd. Guess it doesn't back up external one which is where I've D/L my stuff to!
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Howya blitz.....
To answer second question first [I'm Irish ]....
A Nandroid bk-up is a snapshot of your device at this precise moment... including all device partitions....
it will include everything needed to restore your device to its current state.....
including all apps on Phone memory, related data stored on Internal SD/USB Storage....
but there will not be Apps on your internal SD, unless you have implemented mount-point swap??
There is presently no backup of external SD in our CWM.... but unless you wipe this, or alter data on external SD....it should be OK.....you should also regularly backup the external SD contents to your PC/Laptop, including all hidden folders and files....these will be your moved Apps!!! For security!!!
As for your first question, any of the Euro ROMs are safe to flash, as they all have common baseband/modem/phone mobile freq bands. And all have English Language and usually no Service Provider Branding...
my current Stock ROM is a Cosmote Romania from way back.... no probs whatsoever!!!
To flash the Stock ROM's you will need ODIN.....check out THE-E sticky!!!
which means you will lose root and maybe CWM Recovery...but these can be regained....
But, maybe time to consider some of the Custom GB ROM's....and we have CM9 also in Alpha 2... all rooted and flashable with CWM...no need for ODIN!!!!
You should head to the sticky section in Development.... loads of info there....
Sent from my GT-I8150 using Tapatalk

Cheers IrishPancake. No worries about second question first, I'm Cornish so it's how I would of done it!
I've been following the Dev ROMs including CM9 and also the camera topic in a different forum. Until that's working though I can wait. The stock does what I need but will definitely give CM9 a go when later as I fancy ICS and also donate to arco for his hard work when it's fully functional. Just needed a heads up and just D/L the CZECH rom so will flash that.
One other question, what would be a good app to view and delete bloat-ware? Going to follow the link in my first post as to what is safe to remove so all should be ok and if not I can re-flash.
Cheers.

blitz_32 said:
Cheers IrishPancake. No worries about second question first, I'm Cornish so it's how I would of done it!
I've been following the Dev ROMs including CM9 and also the camera topic in a different forum. Until that's working though I can wait. The stock does what I need but will definitely give CM9 a go when later as I fancy ICS and also donate to arco for his hard work when it's fully functional. Just needed a heads up and just D/L the CZECH rom so will flash that.
One other question, what would be a good app to view and delete bloat-ware? Going to follow the link in my first post as to what is safe to remove so all should be ok and if not I can re-flash.
Cheers.
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Man....there are so many bloatware removers on the Market/Play, but if you have a list, as in your link, and you want to customize what you remove, here is a good project.........which is designed for Sammy Bloat stuff!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645301
You need:
CWM Recovery w/ ADB
USB Drivers
Rooted
Phone connected to PC with USB Debugging enabled.
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You could also need:
NotePad++ on your PC/Laptop.....
Perhaps you also may need adb.....below link to a pretty good tutorial for installing adb, and adding adb to path in Windows, for ease of use.....sorry if you are Mac man....I know nothing!!!
But, just a word of warning, don't remove TWLauncher unless you have another Launcher as default.....you could end up in trouble!!!
You can also batch install apks with this tool.....
I have not tried this, so you should carefully read instructions, such as they are!!
Otherwise, search Play, there are numerous bloat removers.....OK!!!

Cheers. I had had a look on Goggle Play but wasn't sure which would be the best one. The 'project' link you posted looks good but not sure if I just replace every bloatware apk with TWLauncher apk, so will have to read up on it if I go down that route.
Cheers for the help and so far, touch wood, I've not bricked my phone!

O2 Unlock
blitz_32 said:
Cheers. I had had a look on Goggle Play but wasn't sure which would be the best one. The 'project' link you posted looks good but not sure if I just replace every bloatware apk with TWLauncher apk, so will have to read up on it if I go down that route.
Cheers for the help and so far, touch wood, I've not bricked my phone!
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Hi all,
Just a bit of info for you if it's still needed. In the UK O2 unlock your phone for free at any time on contract and after 12 months on PAYG for £15.
Also Giffgaff is run on the O2 network the same as Tesco so you should be ok without an unlock.

Forgot Stock Which is My Stock Rom

Hi All,
I rooted my HTC ONE X and flashed a custom rom. But unfortunately i have forgotten what the original rom is.
As i purchased this from online store, i believe this was shipped from Asia, likely to be hongkong.
I could remember the language included in the stock rom is very limited, and it has English(Malaysia) as one of the option.
May i ask how I can find out which is the actual stock ROM that comes with the phone??
I read on the forum that due to S-off being not available, this phone will not work with stock rom in other region is that right?
Thanks in advance

HK is 708, Malaysia (and Singapore) is 709.
It can be worked out from your CID, but off the top of my head... I can't help further. I leave you in charge of search, and recommend you start with Malaysia.

What about elimination method?
Thanks for the advice. I will Cary on searching. The other thing on my mind is if I am not able to narrow down to one, can I just try a few and eliminate as I go?
I notice in other thread there has been a discussion saying that due to the s-off status, it will not allow us to flash stock rom from different region, but will it show up an error if I have flash the wrong stock rom? Just want to make sure I am not putting too much risk of bricking my phone when trying different stock rom.
Thanks again.

Versa23 said:
Thanks for the advice. I will Cary on searching. The other thing on my mind is if I am not able to narrow down to one, can I just try a few and eliminate as I go?
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Yeah, that'll be fine, the wrong one will refuse to flash.
Don't forget to lock the phone and restore default recovery (I think) otherwise outright be trying all of them!

Thanks Ben
BenPope said:
Yeah, that'll be fine, the wrong one will refuse to flash.
Don't forget to lock the phone and restore default recovery (I think) otherwise outright be trying all of them!
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Hey man, thanks for your help. However i manage to restore the nandroid backup which has my stock rom in it. Was having bootloop when restoring it yesterday. But i just notice i have to fastboot the boot.img first.
Anyways thanks for your help! great to have ppl like you in the forum!

Comprehensive List of Root Consequences/Side Effects

Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.

s1dest3pnate said:
Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.
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It probably ought to be in Q and A, but only after you have searched Q and A, as this question generally speaking, has been asked quite a few times.. Please, use search...save a life
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s1dest3pnate said:
Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.
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Do your research.......
the main side effect is getting a hard brick by flashing something you shouldnt have flashed (rom for another phone) other than that, you can recover from anything and flash back to out the box stock if need be.

Read forum rules before posting
Development is for developers to make threads
Moved to Q&A
FNM
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The biggest drawback is it gives folks the ULTIMATE ability to do anything they want to their phone. Why is this a drawback????
Sadly, way too many folks just "do" things on blind trust of random folks they don't know on the internet without knowing what they are doing and the consequences of their actions.

Compusmurf said:
The biggest drawback is it gives folks the ULTIMATE ability to do anything they want to their phone. Why is this a drawback????
Sadly, way too many folks just "do" things on blind trust of random folks they don't know on the internet without knowing what they are doing and the consequences of their actions.
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This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.

dbenney said:
This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.
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Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.

leperme5siah said:
Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.
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you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..

Naddict said:
you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..
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Well sir, he could could flash the stock recovery > take the OTA > he'll lose roo, then can simply re-apply the rooting procedure in 1 minute and have root back. The only thing is it'll be 100% stock rom, with root access.
We both know its just better to wait, but to each his / her own.

dbenney said:
This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.
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leperme5siah said:
Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.
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Exactly my same situation.
teh roxxorz said:
Well sir, he could could flash the stock recovery > take the OTA > he'll lose roo, then can simply re-apply the rooting procedure in 1 minute and have root back. The only thing is it'll be 100% stock rom, with root access.
We both know its just better to wait, but to each his / her own.
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How would you flash the stock recovery, and why is this needed? Wouldn't you still get the OTA prompt after rooting and just be able to accept the install - why need stock recovery?

s1dest3pnate said:
How would you flash the stock recovery, and why is this needed? Wouldn't you still get the OTA prompt after rooting and just be able to accept the install - why need stock recovery?
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In the dev section, there is a thread in the there that has the stock recovery you can flash via odin. You need stock recovery because the OTA flashes through stock recovery; which is why on anything but stock, the OTA fails to flash.
And you wouldn't get the ota at that point cuz you'd have it. There are other ways to disable it though.

Naddict said:
you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..
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That's remembers me, my ex g/f bikini line.
Sent from my O=O

Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
Before rooting, any precautions to take other than resetting Google Wallet?

First off, resetting Google wallet isn't necessary. That's old news
And second this question should go into the noob question thread because if you don't already know the answer to this than you don't need to do it. You'll be just another rooted noob that ends up fukn brickin. Dont do it until you can answer this question yourself
Nobody is gonna hold your hand especially not when youre back here in a week askin how to repair your doorstop of a phone

billard412 said:
First off, resetting Google wallet isn't necessary. That's old news
And second this question should go into the noob question thread because if you don't already know the answer to this than you don't need to do it. You'll be just another rooted noob that ends up fukn brickin. Dont do it until you can answer this question yourself
Nobody is gonna hold your hand especially not when youre back here in a week askin how to repair your doorstop of a phone
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Lol... The issue is that all the information is fragmented all over the place. I understand the general process but am asking the noob questions so that all bases are covered. I was on the OG Evo, rooted and updating ROMs all the time. Don't assume man - just trying to get "comprehensive" details before messing up something - you shouldn't be able to blame me for that. So many different OTAs, versions of Galaxy S III (international and different carriers), Google Wallet comes into play, etc...
So back to my main question: Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
And is there consensus that no precautions need to be taken with Google Wallet or anything else?

s1dest3pnate said:
Lol... The issue is that all the information is fragmented all over the place. I understand the general process but am asking the noob questions so that all bases are covered. I was on the OG Evo, rooted and updating ROMs all the time. Don't assume man - just trying to get "comprehensive" details before messing up something - you shouldn't be able to blame me for that. So many different OTAs, versions of Galaxy S III (international and different carriers), Google Wallet comes into play, etc...
So back to my main question: Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
And is there consensus that no precautions need to be taken with Google Wallet or anything else?
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Root methods don't change. This is a Samsung not an HTC. They don't upgrade hboot or lock the bootloader with an ota none of that stupid crap.
Jb or ICS makes no difference. And Google wallet stores that personal crap that had the potential to make wallet brick up outside of the phone now so reset isn't needed. Although I think that was all hype originally anyway. As someone who has owned the phone since 6-21 I have flashed anything and everything and never reset wallet a single time

Seen a lot of comments, so I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the ring
Concerns:
1) flash counter - The SGS 3 has a counter that show how many times you have used ODIN to flash something. The program "Flash Away" resolves this, but to get it 100% back to the stock setting, you also need to flash a 100% official stock ROM. If you never plan on using the warranty, this is a non concern, but it might cause you issues if you bring it in for service.
2) loss of data - some flashes will wipe the internal SD card (yet to see anything wipe the external), so before doing anything major, it is probably a good idea to backup the internal SD to an external source
3) USB cable quality - one of the number one items I have seen that causes issues, is a bad and/or faulty USB cable. Make sure you got a quality cable if you are going to flash with ODIN
4) check the md5 checksum of the file you are going to flash. A bad download will also cause you issues, from minor to serve, so it is a good idea to do a double check before you use the file, just to make sure it is not corrupter

DCRocks said:
Seen a lot of comments, so I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the ring
Concerns:
1) flash counter - The SGS 3 has a counter that show how many times you have used ODIN to flash something. The program "Flash Away" resolves this, but to get it 100% back to the stock setting, you also need to flash a 100% official stock ROM. If you never plan on using the warranty, this is a non concern, but it might cause you issues if you bring it in for service.
2) loss of data - some flashes will wipe the internal SD card (yet to see anything wipe the external), so before doing anything major, it is probably a good idea to backup the internal SD to an external source
3) USB cable quality - one of the number one items I have seen that causes issues, is a bad and/or faulty USB cable. Make sure you got a quality cable if you are going to flash with ODIN
4) check the md5 checksum of the file you are going to flash. A bad download will also cause you issues, from minor to serve, so it is a good idea to do a double check before you use the file, just to make sure it is not corrupter
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Kinda insulting to chainfire to call it flash away. Just saying...
And the counter isn't even that big a threat to ne one anyway. Hell u can even reset it using my stock rom. Definatly second checkin the USB cable tho

[Q] Noob on HTC M8 need some help :)

Hello XDA members!
I am a very proud owner of this amazing phone, i come from a Samsung Galaxy S4 to this piece of art.
So, the first thing i did was to come here and start searching for some things i would like to know, i browsed this for like 1hour and i still didn't find answers for this:
- I am a European Version of this Phone, when i turned it on, there was a software update, so i did it, and now i am on version 1.57.118.2 , this leads me to two questions:
-- Is this the most recent FW version for this phone?
-- I don't have Extreme power saving mode, why??
- Wich is the FW that gets the updates more quickly?
- After some search about rooting this device, i need to S-OFF it and then Root it right? And so, my questions are, rooting and S-OFF'ing my phone, voids my Warranty?
- Is it possible to root the phone and keep OTA updates?
Sorry for too many questions, i will promise i will never create again another thread like this, i just need help at start then i will be ready to go on my own
Best regards.

I can't answer all the questions but I'll answer the ones I know for sure.
You don't have to have s-off to root, you do need to unlock the boot loader (a quick search will show you how) and flash a custom recovery ( cm, twrp, Philz etc.). This will void your warranty but there are many threads about how to return to stock. Be sure to BACKUP.
There are many great Roms on here that include the the extreme power saving mode, browse around the development board and try some our till you find one that you like.
Hope this help
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didi_ghost said:
Hello XDA members!
I am a very proud owner of this amazing phone, i come from a Samsung Galaxy S4 to this piece of art.
So, the first thing i did was to come here and start searching for some things i would like to know, i browsed this for like 1hour and i still didn't find answers for this:
- I am a European Version of this Phone, when i turned it on, there was a software update, so i did it, and now i am on version 1.57.118.2 , this leads me to two questions:
-- Is this the most recent FW version for this phone?
-- I don't have Extreme power saving mode, why??
- Wich is the FW that gets the updates more quickly?
- After some search about rooting this device, i need to S-OFF it and then Root it right? And so, my questions are, rooting and S-OFF'ing my phone, voids my Warranty?
- Is it possible to root the phone and keep OTA updates?
Sorry for too many questions, i will promise i will never create again another thread like this, i just need help at start then i will be ready to go on my own
Best regards.
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1) I believe that's the most recent FW update for T-Mobile Poland.
2) I don't have a real answer as to why you still don't have extreme power saving mode, perhaps it's the carriers choice for whatever reason.
3) Devices that gets updates more quickly: 1) Google Play Edition device. 2) HTC WWE (International) & HTC WWE (Asia) . 3) Developer Edition. 4) The rest of the world with carrier branded phones at of course the leisure of the carriers. They first have to mess it up with bloatware then spend weeks trying to fix the mess before sending the OTA to mess up your device.
4) Yes, tampering with the device in any way voids warranty. Though it is my understanding that some countries in the EU overlook these sorts of things to some degree. However, given then the fact that you are S-OFF you can return your device to 100% stock which should be good for warranty issues. The only thing that "might" give it away is, if you prefer to stay S-OFF though the carrier has to prove that you did something wrong as apparently some HTC devices do leave the factories in an S-OFF condition already.
You could attempt to go back to S-ON though some here don't recommend it as it could throw out a security flag that'll completely give your tampering away or even worst, it could get bricked. I think the thread that discussed it was in the Verizon forums, you could perhaps check it out there, the thread starter was Scotty, the same guy that gives the guide to removing the tampered banner on the phone. [how to] remove your "tampered" banner
5) Yes you can root the phone and still receive OTA updates, however if you do the OTA update you'll lose root. It's easy enough to re-root again though. Of course if you flash a custom recovery you need to flash back the stock recovery again. Your device needs to be in original state to receive OTA in other words... Any deleted apps(Like Facebook) needs to be put back, stock recovery, stock ROM, stock Kernel.
You can however boot the custom recovery and still root, that way you keep your stock recovery intact. If you do want to flash a custom recovery, MAKE A BACKUP of your stock recovery first. There are currently none available for your device that I can find so it's imperative, else later on when you decide to go back to stock you'll sit without a recovery.
You can boot Philz and make a complete nandroid backup selecting everything including recovery OR you can make a backup of recovery as follows:
You must be rooted, can get root with Towel Root. You must have adb installed, open command prompt in adb folder, connect phone to device and type:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/emmc
This will display the partition lay out of your device and search for recovery, for me it's in block 43(I think it should be for you as well) then type:
Code:
su - [I][B]grant the phone root privilege when the pop up comes up on phone[/B][/I]
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p43 of=/sdcard/recovery.img
What that does is convert and make a copy of the recovery partition mmcblk043 (The "if" or input filepath) onto the "of" (output filepath) /sdcard as "recovery.img". That's it, that's your backup of stock recovery.
When you need to go back to stock you can just flash it via fastboot with:
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fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
I would suggest the dd method for a stock recovery as only Philz makes a backup of recovery, TWRP does NOT make a backup, which is a bit of a problem. Of course when you made the backup, the file isn't that big so maybe you could upload it and share it in the Collection thread along with your nandroid backup, it could come in handy to help many other people that don't do it. :good:

Thank you very much for you helping i really appreciate it! So i have one question, i really want the Extreme Power Saving mode, so my question is... Can i change the original firmware to another one safelly without warranty voids or something? Damn, i am in Portugal, and i got a cellphone from Poland lol.

didi_ghost said:
Thank you very much for you helping i really appreciate it! So i have one question, i really want the Extreme Power Saving mode, so my question is... Can i change the original firmware to another one safelly without warranty voids or something? Damn, i am in Portugal, and i got a cellphone from Poland lol.
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Yeah if you get S-OFF you can convert your device to pretty much any variant(CDMA excluded so no Sprint/Verizon as far as I know).
I'd convert it to the international version HTC__001 that way you get your extreme power saving mode and you also get the latest updates way before any carrier sends it out.
Interesting, did you buy the device over Amazon or some sort of related online service? Did they advertise it as international unlocked? I've seen a couple of guys on here that bought devices like that from Amazon or related services that advertised as such. At the very least if they did advertise as international unlocked then actually converting to international can't "void" it then, can it?
Seen guys from France get English, guys from Poland buying from Spain and actually getting French device, a guy from Argentina that got one or other US variant... very mixed up. Even I got some other variant, imported mine from the UK to South Africa but it's also a French HTC__203 device. EU... what can we say?

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Yeah if you get S-OFF you can convert your device to pretty much any variant(CDMA excluded so no Sprint/Verizon as far as I know).
I'd convert it to the international version HTC__001 that way you get your extreme power saving mode and you also get the latest updates way before any carrier sends it out.
Interesting, did you buy the device over Amazon or some sort of related online service? Did they advertise it as international unlocked? I've seen a couple of guys on here that bought devices like that from Amazon or related services that advertised as such. At the very least if they did advertise as international unlocked then actually converting to international can't "void" it then, can it?
Seen guys from France get English, guys from Poland buying from Spain and actually getting French device, a guy from Argentina that got one or other US variant... very mixed up. Even I got some other variant, imported mine from the UK to South Africa but it's also a French HTC__203 device. EU... what can we say?
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But if i do that, i lose my warranty right? It's sad, i dont want my phone to be on that firmware and i want Extreme Power saving mode and my APN's are empty -.-
No, i've bought on a local store, i see that these phones are sold from many countries to diferent ones, someone from my Country got one from a Italian Store and he bought it from Amazon ES

All i want for now, is to change my original firmware to the international version or HTC-PTG HTC__506 (wich is my country) without losing my Warranty, is that possible?

Please someone help me with this, or i will have to go to the store to swap to another one

didi_ghost said:
Please someone help me with this, or i will have to go to the store to swap to another one
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didi_ghost said:
All i want for now, is to change my original firmware to the international version or HTC-PTG HTC__506 (wich is my country) without losing my Warranty, is that possible?
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You post a query and expect it to be solved in minutes!We at xda have a life outside also.You should respect others time.Anyways if you unlock the bootloader you void your warranty at that very instant.There is only 1 possible way to regain your warranty is to s-off your device.Other than that there is no way.You can use firewater or sunshine($25) to s-off.I hope you have understood.
EDIT:S-off dosent void warranty!

Yeah i know sorry, but it's kinda frustrating this situation, it's such a crap FW...
So, it's possible for me to change the original FW without losing warranty right? If yes, can you please tell me what steps should i proceed to get the European FW(internacional?) or the one for my country.
Best regards.

didi_ghost said:
Yeah i know sorry, but it's kinda frustrating this situation, it's such a crap FW...
So, it's possible for me to change the original FW without losing warranty right? If yes, can you please tell me what steps should i proceed to get the European FW(internacional?) or the one for my country.
Best regards.
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Like he said as soon as you unlock you CAN and most likely did void the warranty, HTC gives a clear warning of that during the actual unlocking procedure. Anything else you do after that, flashing a custom recovery, rooting, flashing roms, deleting system apps(bloatware) etc can all really be considered "voiding" the warranty, as it's tampering with the device.
That is where having S-OFF comes in handy as you can not just easily undo all of that but even undo the tampered flags that came as a result of you messing around with the device. You can make it seem like you never even unlocked the bootloader in the first place. Though HTC itself WILL of course know that you did... That being said, It really shouldn't be a problem if you need warranty fix/exchange for hardware related issues that did NOT come about as a result of any software "modifications" / "hacking".
So get S-OFF!!! :victory:
Flashing the International version:
Head over to the Collection of Stock Backup's thread grab one of the 1.54.401.5 versions as we'll use the OTA update that you'll get afterwards as a test to make sure all is running good and that you can get OTA updates and install them to 1.54.401.10 . While you're in the thread also grab the stock recovery for 1.54.401.5 it's also in the first post in that thread. Put these files on your phone in the correct folder path. If you're using internal SD card it should be in /sdcard/TWRP/Backups/SERIAL_NUMBER/ <<<replace serial_number with the serial number for your device, you can find that on the box that the phone came in of course. For external sd card. /sdcard2/TWRP/Backups/SERIAL_NUMBER <<<Again same as already mentioned.
Make sure about your MID, it should be 0P6B10000 though it is my understanding that all European models have the same MID. You can check this by hooking up phone to pc and using fastboot(Method I'll show below if you don't know how). Once in fastboot type fastboot getvar mid . Next you need to change that CID to HTC__001 for international variant. You can do this by connecting your phone to your pc and opening a command prompt in the adb folder(Assuming of course you have adb/fastboot on your computer? ) you can then proceed to type these commands.
First make sure USB-Debugging is enabled on your device. Settings > About > Software Information > More > Tap 7 times on Build number. This will enable Developer options, go back to Settings and scroll down, just above "About" you'll see Developer Options, tap on that scroll down and make sure the box next to USB debugging is checked. Then go back to Settings scroll down to "Power" select it, scroll down to bottom and "un-check" the "Fast boot" box.
Code:
adb devices - [B][I]this is to see if your phone gets picked up through adb, should show you your serial number.[/I][/B]
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices - [I][B]again just to make sure it's connected.[/B][/I]
fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
fastboot reboot-bootloader - [B][I]make sure the CID changed correctly to HTC__001[/I][/B]
fastboot flash recovery recovery_name.img - [B][I]recovery_name being the name of the stock recovery you downloaded. Make sure it's placed in the adb folder![/I][/B]
fastboot erase cache
fastboot boot name_of_custom_recovery.img - [I][B]make sure you BOOT the recovery for the same backup nandroid you chose. If you downloaded a TWRP backup then BOOT TWRP, if you downloaded Philz Touch nandroid then BOOT Philz Touch. Again, make sure this file is in adb folder UNZIPPED if it's zipped, same with the stock recovery, if you downloaded it zipped, unzip it and place the .img file in the adb folder. So let's assume you went with TWRP then it'll be:[/B][/I]
fastboot boot openrecovery-twrp-2.7.1.0-m8.img
Once it booted the custom recovery wipe the dalvik-cache, cache and data partitions. Then do a restore from the path to the nandroid backup. Reboot the phone and you're set, it'll take a while on first boot as it loads up all the things. Once it's booted you should also get a pop up for the new OTA 1.54.401.10 go ahead and accept it and see if installs properly for you, if it installed properly and updated your system then...
Congratulations you're now an International WWE user. :good:
You'll also have the extreme power saving mode you so desperately seek and desire.

Thank you very very much!! I'm gonna try to swap on the store for another one first , if i can't i'm gonna do this and give freedom to my phone! God bless you for that huge text helping me out
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didi_ghost said:
Thank you very very much!! I'm gonna try to swap on the store for another one first , if i can't i'm gonna do this and give freedom to my phone! God bless you for that huge text helping me out
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 check this.Note yyou hace to be s-off to change mid.Also I would suggest you to change cid to supercid ie 11111111

Guys, i'm trying to S-Off my phone with firewater using temp-root method and i'm always getting this:
{
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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So , there's nothing i can do?

Please someone?

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Please someone?
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If you can't get firewater to work go and look for sunshine soff or you could try asking the team in irc chat
Sent from space

Can't flash any LP ROM, no problems with KK ROMs

Every time I try to flash CM12 or ResurrectionRemix, this "error" comes up in the log. Problem is that although it says it succeeded, when I reboot it throws me back into the bootloader meaning the ROM probably didn't get flashed. I am on A5_UL with S-OFF, using latest TWRP3. I successfully flashed Carbon ROM and MokeeOS. Could anyone point me in the right direction with this, I never really had any problems with flashing ROMs.
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curious, you ever update to official lollipop?
the hboot and firmware are different than kk. but still, it's odd.
send me /tmp/recovery.log after an install if you want, or pastebin it or something.
may have a clue there.

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curious, you ever update to official lollipop?
the hboot and firmware are different than kk. but still, it's odd.
send me /tmp/recovery.log after an install if you want, or pastebin it or something.
may have a clue there.
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Sorry for the slow reply, I needed to reflash the CyanogenMod ROM in order to get the recovery log.
I updated to official LP the instant it came out, don't ask why - I was coming to the Desire 816 from a very old phone and the idea of having Lollipop was so endearing that the potential consequences completely flew over my head.
After I got S-OFF I switched back to KK but it wasn't usable because of the WiFi issues which caused me to flash LP back.
I'm on the latest LP update now.
Recovery log file is in the attachment, I cut everything out except the last flashing part since I've done backups and those dump sensitive data into the log.

CrashBX said:
Sorry for the slow reply, I needed to reflash the CyanogenMod ROM in order to get the recovery log.
I updated to official LP the instant it came out, don't ask why - I was coming to the Desire 816 from a very old phone and the idea of having Lollipop was so endearing that the potential consequences completely flew over my head.
After I got S-OFF I switched back to KK but it wasn't usable because of the WiFi issues which caused me to flash LP back.
I'm on the latest LP update now.
Recovery log file is in the attachment, I cut everything out except the last flashing part since I've done backups and those dump sensitive data into the log.
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it flashed system OK from the look of it.
maybe not the boot.img, though. you could extract it from the zip and try to boot or flash that with fastboot (or twrp3 can flash it)
off topic, how did you s-off this thing? you might be able to flash a kk ruu and get your firmware back.

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it flashed system OK from the look of it.
maybe not the boot.img, though. you could extract it from the zip and try to boot or flash that with fastboot (or twrp3 can flash it)
off topic, how did you s-off this thing? you might be able to flash a kk ruu and get your firmware back.
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I'll try the external boot.img method next time I try a ROM, but for now I'm on Android MM stock.
I S-OFFed this thing by paying a bit expensive price for the Sunshine S-OFF tool. Don't worry, I have tried all RUU's and the KK one is not really useful because of the WiFi issues. I'm now experimenting with HTC's Marshmallow but I keep a lot of nandroid backups.
Regarding S-OFF, I couldn't resist because I hate having usage of a device I own restricted in such a menial way. I'll also take a chance to say "**** HTC" for this because they went out of their way to restrict the write access to /system, something which should be a big no-no in today's world.

by the time I got mine, there was custom recovery and source, so the /system thing was only annoying while I was waiting for my sim card to arrive so I could activate on stock.
Thanks for the s-off info.
If HTC takes too long for chl marshmallow, I may beg you for a /system dump.

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by the time I got mine, there was custom recovery and source, so the /system thing was only annoying while I was waiting for my sim card to arrive so I could activate on stock.
Thanks for the s-off info.
If HTC takes too long for chl marshmallow, I may beg you for a /system dump.
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I'd be glad to help but I'm not really sure if /system could contain any personifying information? Nothing personal but for the sake of me sleeping well, I'd rather avoid sharing such a thing unless really needed. Also, I'm UL - the most popular variant out there so I'm sure you could easily find someone else to share his /system partition.

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I'd be glad to help but I'm not really sure if /system could contain any personifying information? Nothing personal but for the sake of me sleeping well, I'd rather avoid sharing such a thing unless really needed. Also, I'm UL - the most popular variant out there so I'm sure you could easily find someone else to share his /system partition.
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/system is what's left after a factory reset. so no personal data.
I just want /system/lib, /system/vendor/lib, /system/bin, and /system/etc mostly. I don't need the huge /system/app and priv-app.
regardless, I wouldn't want to put you out or eat your data bandwidth. No biggie.
Silly htc, according to the cm source, ul is only different from chl in a couple little things. not sure why they're delaying my variant release.
I'll wait or find an existing dump. OT'd your thread enough, eh?

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/system is what's left after a factory reset. so no personal data.
I just want /system/lib, /system/vendor/lib, /system/bin, and /system/etc mostly. I don't need the huge /system/app and priv-app.
regardless, I wouldn't want to put you out or eat your data bandwidth. No biggie.
Silly htc, according to the cm source, ul is only different from chl in a couple little things. not sure why they're delaying my variant release.
I'll wait or find an existing dump. OT'd your thread enough, eh?
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Thank you for telling me exactly what you need, it makes it easier for me to quickly glance over what kind of information I am putting out in the open. I'll try to make it available as soon as tomorrow but you'd have to tell me how to actually do the dump since I never had the need to do it myself. Is it an uncompressed nandroid backup or...?
Don't worry about me tripping my data cap, here where I live we don't have caps and our connection is competent to say the least.
Regarding HTC, it's always complications about these variants and little things. If I were to make a company oriented specifically around smartphones, I'd run it similarly to Xiaomi. Little selection of phones but great support. I love how Samsung releases dozens of phones a year and most of them lose official support shortly after. In the end it all ends up smelling like a marketing ploy. And ah, no problem with the thread - I love the chatter ;]

The nandroid is easiest to deal with.
Just leave out the data.* and recovery.log files, to get rid of any personal info, but include the rest: system and boot and any info/md,5 then zip that up.
That assumes twrp, I can unpack cwm easy enough too, but haven't used it in quite a while to list filenames.
I'm sure the ones to leave out are *data* and log even in cwm.
The boot.img is useful too, I can check my existing ramdisk files against official MM.
That and the system dump are for updated config files and proprietary blobs to hopefully make cm13 run more smoothly.
If you want to uncompress the backup and slim it down to bin, etc, lib, and vendor, that's fine too.

That last option is the most inviting one, but how do I unpack TWRP backups? This question haunted me for as long as I knew how to do nandroid backups.

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That last option is the most inviting one, but how do I unpack TWRP backups? This question haunted me for as long as I knew how to do nandroid backups.
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Linux archiver, they're ext4 images
they might need to be renamed
the boot. img is harder to unpack, and definitely does not have any user information in it anyway.