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how many have devices like this? It doesnt seem to disappear on mine until about half brightness up.. and even there i can slightly tell. is this a problem on most phones or only some? Also with light usage i'm losing over 10% per hour, doesnt seem right at all
All AMOLED screens have that issue at low brightness, it just varies from phone to phone. Give it a few charge cycles before you start looking at the battery. The battery on my Nexus drained extremely quickly when I first got it but it's been lasting longer and longer with each passing day (3 so far)
My screen is the same, you need to be at half brightness to get a decent image. Auto brightness in full darkness makes you think that the screen is totally broken.
yours has like bands of a different shade too? mine has one thick one on the right of the screen and it's pretty annoying.. about to go into the city tomorrow to exchange it but if there all like that then i dont know
I went in to the store, and they said that they wouldn't switch it out.
Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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Yes ! I thought that mine was also broken. It is good to know i am not alone .
can we get a screenshot?
Would it even show in a screenshot? Yes, it's AMOLED... that's the way it is. More than worth it.
It wouldn't show in a screenshot since this is a hardware related issue. And I don't think it's normal if it has brighter spots like explained. Mine isn't as smooth as you would expect either at lower brightness levels but it is not like explained by the OP.
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All SAMOLEDs sacrifice clarity and color representation for slightly better black levels. Just the nature of the screen technology. All 4 Samsung models (and all 7 phones) I've come across have it.
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Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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in denial???
I've never seen the banding effect before, and this is coming from someone in a household with two out-of-commission Galaxy S', two GSIIs, a Focus, and my Nexus. The PenTile screen door effect can get to me if I'm looking for it, but that's the only SAMOLED issue I'm familiar with.
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I actually like the slightly grainy look mine has at lower brightness levels
Would Voodoo Control be compatible with this? It was an awesome feature that my Nexus S had!
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Not only is mine grainy at low brightness, it also has a pink and green tinge (in opposite sides of the screen)
It doesn't seem to happen on the 1st gen AMOLED (Nexus one, not grainy at low light) or S-AMOLED (Galaxy S, it did have an overall blue tint, but it was on the WHOLE screen)
Not completely noticeable, but would have expected better. At 40% or higher, its barely noticeable.
Got the same problem 40-50% and its barely noticable, any lower and i can see much distortion.
I know its a hardware thing but is this something that might be fixed with a future update or are we stuck with this?
The screen will look grainy on white/grey backgrounds at lower brightness settings, but there should not be any vertical/horizontal banding on the screen.
My first phone had a vertical bar of banding going down the entire screen, and bothered the crap out of me. Went in this morning and had it swapped with a Nexus that has no issues. For the price that we're paying for this phone (especially those with International unlocked imports) it better be perfect.
yup, i only ever see it in one place (the grain), and thats on the store before anything loads (an all gray background). Don't see it on white or anything else... that i know is pentile.
Galaxy Note is similar at lower brightness levels, must be AMOLED.
iPhone 4S is best if reading at lowest brightness levels is very important,
but in brighter light the Nexus and Note look amazing.
I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
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I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
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I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and just purchased the G Pad. To be fair the G Pad is a very good device but so far the Nexus 7 is by far the better device. Screen is much better on Nexus. Its more of an auto brightness problem on the G Pad, if you manually turn it up its bright, but the auto function does not keep it bright enough. I have a yellow area at the top of the G Pad and Its making me contimplate exchanging it, or returning it altogether, because of the many stories of faulty screens with this thing. If you search further into the Ipad Air forums you will see that they have terrible yellowing issues with there screens and guess who makes those screens for Apple. Some Ipads have an entire side that is yellow.
I have only charged mine twice, but for me the Nexus 7 wins hands down for battery. I have both devices set up exactly the same, except I share the 7 with the wife who has an account on it. I get an easy 6 hours screen time over several days and still have 20% remaining. The G pad I have gotten 5 hours out of it and its been below 10%.
Hope this helps.
If you need the screen size, get the gpad. The fact the bezel is small, fools most people into thinking they are the same size.
To your questions:
Screen is bright enough, auto brightness lacks, but since you are in xda you can find a rom that allows you to correct it.
As for the battery, they have similar mahs, so any difference comes down to screen size/brightness and android version. Maybe the Google edition is closer to your needs?
Not exactly relevant,but have a look at this review: it might address your concerns about the screen
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G-Pad-8.3-vs-Apple-iPad-mini-2-with-Retina-Display_id3527
Ps:I had the old nexus 7, I have spent some time with the new one, and I own the lg gpad. Gpad is in a different category.
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G Pad 8.3 looks like its display brightness is turned down all the way.
I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I completely agree. On my Nexus 4 the brightness is never more than 60% for me. The same for my Note 10.1. At night, in bed I often put the brightness to minimum, and it still feels to much. With the G Pad... Wow, I love the minimum. On sunny days, i do max out the brightness, but I find it perfectly good enough.
I have to say, i absolutely love the auto brightness on the G Pad. You can configure the auto brightness.... Fantastic.
Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
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note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
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Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
Mark
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
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I had mine before I had to RMA and I was shocked it was really bright for me. From all the complaints people get I thought it would be really dim but it was just fine. I never use my electronics outside but yeah direct sunlight will probably greatly reduce visibility. Anyway I found it was pretty bright for me.
Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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You have it set to 100% brightness and it still isn't bright enough? Better get another tablet.
I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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I can see the "boring" part although I was looking forward to eventually trying a jailbreak. Hubby's ALL Apple, sons are mixed, and I'm PC/Android. They will let me do anything to their Androids, but no one will let me "play" with Iphones or Ipads. :'(
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I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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yea, it is definitely dim compared to others. I like both the n7 and this one but reason I like lg pad is the 8.3" screen. If nexus comes out with something like that soon, I would buy it..
I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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Max brightness is difficult to assess on OLED screens like the one in your Galaxy S3 because they dynamically adapt the total output of the panel in order to stay within a power limit (like plasmas do, too), so that means that depending on the way the screen of the GS3 was measured it could produce whites much brighter than 224 cd/m² if the screen isn't entirely white, whereas LCDs max output don't vary depending on what content is displayed.
After about 2 months, I gave up on the G Pad due to its lack of brightness and clarity while viewing movies. Nexus 7 2013 blew it away. People will say there is no difference, but if you do actual side by side you will see what you are missing.
The screen is fine for webpages, but running it at 100% brightness to watch a movie, especially dark or night scenes is not worth the price given the alternatives.
Yeah it does have lower screen brightness but I use screen filter so often on my Atrix 2 to further darken the screen it's not a huge deal for me that this screen can't get super bright it would be nice of course for better visibility outside in the sun but I rarely if ever use my tablet like that but if your looking for that high level of brightness stay away very good tablet otherwise especially for the 284 I paid. The actual screen quality is very good the included HD time lapse videos in the gallery are breath taking to look at and really show off the tablets screen quality. There my go to videos when I show the tablet off to people. Its a shame a lot of the most common source of video streaming I use are so limited in quality on android that they don't do the screen justice but I can get around most of those limitations using a web browser.
Crunchyroll's android app is limited to there lowest quality sd video setting which looks ok on my Atrix 2 but really bad here. I can get around it by using a web browser to login in view the videos in Gorious 1080P and they look really nice on this tablet I actually don't mind watching anime on this over my 1080i Sony Trinitron CRT not as good blacks and overall picture quality but still it's good enough which compared to that t.v is quite a compliment. Also anime looks really sharp on this due to the high ppi and I can view it from real close. There are some compromises but it also does things better and I'm willing To make them before I really didn't like watching on any other screen feeling I was missing out in screen quality.
The YouTube app is also limited to 720p but again I use a browser to view to get around this when quality is a priority not as convenient and with plenty of high resolution tablets out even some above 1080p including Google's own nexus 10 you think Google would allow 1080p streaming if not 4K streaming through the app. Netflix app also seems to be locked at a lower bitrate and non HD and since its silver light no way to view through browser. But I think being only 4.2.2 limits me. Hopefully when the 4.4 updates comes out I can access higher video quality through the app this screen could really benefit from the all bitrate netflix could offer Super HD would look fantastic on this screen. I'm not sure if they offer that on 4.3+ android devices or if it's limited to there regular 1080p bitrate or 720p on android with even Google crippling there own YouTube app I wouldn't be surprised which is a shame.
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Many people out here are talking about issues with screen bleed on this tablet
I think that the issue here is there are 2 different screen issues with this tablet that people are referring to collectively as light bleed:
1)Screen bleed
2)Edge lighting visibility
Screen bleed as I define it is something visible usually on a dark background where white light leaks out on certain areas of the screen. Almost all LCD have some degree of this and some are better than others. Often increasing the display brightness on the drak screen magnifies it. And fleing the chassis of the tablet often will shift where it bleeds.
This tablet does have some issues with this, more so than my Nexus 7 ( I lost leaving it on a plane) did.
Edge lighting issue many have posted pictures on here an youtube calling it screen bleed is something different. It seems to consistently be the bottom of the tablet in portrait mode. It is most visible on a white not black background and at lowest intensity (non auto brightness of less than 20% and it is noticeable). IT is always 7 bright/dark areas in sequence. While I am no expert in LCD technology, LCD compared to Amoled have a backlight. If the backlight is lit at the edge, it is quite likely that as one lowers the screen brightness the edge lighting at its origin might be slightly brighter than the surrounding area giving off this effect. Above a certain brightness the edge lighting is overwhelmed by the brightness of the panel and is no longer visible
For those that don't understand here is a video someone posted on youtube that demonstrates on his GPAd what the edge light issue is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiSEC3rbHI
Now I replaced my first tablet (white one) because it had this and significant light bleed.
Picked up a black one and the light bleed is negligable. below 50% brightness it is not there and truthfully light bleed is an issue more when viewing in darkness where there is little ambient light and corners of the screen wash out with light. The fact I have none is great!!!
But........I have the same issue of the 7 areas of brighter whites at the bottom edge of the screen when brightness is below 20-25% (non automatic).They are mostly noticeable against a white background and more so when in full screen mode or white button bar is selected, or if using in landscape mode where it will then show on the right side of screen.
I am torn as to whether I should return or not. Seeing the many who have same issue and it now being there on 2 tablets from different stores and different colors (hence different manufacture runs) I suspect that this is more or less present in all G Pad 8.3 tablets. Some of us are just more likely to see it as one needs specific situations for it to be visible.
I loved my nexus 7HD before i lost it. Though I had some issues with it:
While 32gb, no expandable storage
touchscreen was not the best
Was feeling kind of small given I have a note 3 as my phone.
As such I decided to get a replacement. My final candidates were:
Ipad Mini retina display- Great Screen and app ecosystem (wife has ipad so lots of apps purchasesd as well...) But, 100$ more no expandable storage and stuck in the walled garden. Plus already have large selection of bought apps, and books/magazines in google play.
Amazon HDX8.9- I think this is the best hardware out for the money. Still light, large vibrant very bright hi res screen with insane battery life. If there was a way to get stock android on this I would jump on it. But Amazon store is limited and side loading while fine for the odd app is not how i want to fill my tablet. I can't customize it as far as looks go and while some google apps can be side loaded they don't al work or work well and there are a lot of FC. Also being in Canada, Amazon prime doesn't really benefit me as the video and music services are not available there. IT is a shame as I think I am still tempted to buy this tablet just based on the great intermediate size with best hardware
Gpad I thought this would be the perfect replacement for my Nexus 7HD. Based on reviews the added screen size without much weight and loss of pocketability. A still vibrant high PPI though dimmer screen (don't really use out doors much and seemd fine sitting in my car today leaving bestbuy). While not on latest kitkat there are good roms out there and likely can eventually swap out software fro GPE should I want. Meanwhile the LG skin adds some cool functions like Q slide apps, knock on qpair.....Seems like it is the right size, right resolution, expandable storage Better speakers than Apple... If I didn't have the edge lighting issue this tablet would be near perfect. I don't mind slightly less battery life as I will be able to charge it at night and seems most are getting 6+ screen tme and 1-2 days stdby.
Windows 8.1 Tablet (Lenovo or Dell Venue Pro Intriguing and right size at 8 inches though decidedly lower esolution and would have to forego my library of google play apps ....though having windows and full office could have some value though there is no current way to get a wired connection to a monitor or TV.
So.....in spite of the EDGE light screen issue, what should I do?
What are those of you who have noticed same thing doing or have done?
Hmmm now I am not sure what to do.
First one I bought was a white one. It had traditional light bleed in 2 corners and had this bottom edgelight issue at low brightness.
Returned it for a black one. This one is better in that it has no light bleed except the bottom edgelight issue. This occurs at brightness below 20-25. IT is not an issue during day time as I am needing brightness above 40 to comfortably enjoy the screen.
But for night time use I have to kepe the tablet a bit brighter than I prefer so as not to see it under some circumstances, I.e. landscape viewing.
I am trying to decide if it is worth returning as I love everything else about it. I am on vacation in the US and do not have the time to keep going back and forth to various best buy locations hoping for a better unit. Especially since seems the black model is in limited supply with nearest store 30 minutes away. However also given the exchange rate on my credit card, Returning it will likely cost me 20$ based on how the Credit card companies charge....
Have you tried using a screen filter off of Google play store. I used one on my galaxy 7.7 for night time use.
I would see if a third time is the charm. Return the unit and ask if you can turn on an inspect the next unit before leaving. See if you can find one that is acceptable before walking out the door. To me, the G Pad is best unit out there in the 8" space. Fire HDX8.9 is nice, but as you mentioned, it doesn't support the Play Store and requires everything to be side loaded. Additionally can't really customize the UI at this time. Hardware is killer, but until you can drop standard Android UI on top, G Pad is better option. In regards to Ipad Mini, it's nice, but absurd at that price. If you were to go for iOS, better off with the Air as it can be had for about $60/70 more. To me the Windows Tablet is not really an option. Depends on what you plan to do with it. I've read mixed reviews with the Windows Tablets. Good for some productivity apps and browsing but not so great at gaming. Still do quite a bit of games, so for me not an option.
Again, recommend giving it one more try and exchanging the unit and see how it goes.
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I would see if a third time is the charm. Return the unit and ask if you can turn on an inspect the next unit before leaving. See if you can find one that is acceptable before walking out the door. To me, the G Pad is best unit out there in the 8" space.
Again, recommend giving it one more try and exchanging the unit and see how it goes.
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Thanks for the advice. ...
Went to a third best buy location tried 4 different gpad as salesman let me test them.
All had same issue. I will keep it anyway. Switched for the white again though. Prefer the feel of the back and no finger prints
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I have just received my 32GB european G3, stunning phone in hand, speakers seems really good, but out of everything that I am let down by it is surprisingly the screen I wanted to be blown away and unfortunately I'm not.
I have the Z2 at the moment and I am in no way sticking up for the Z2 it's horrible, uncomfortable in hand, slippy, the vibrate is annoying, the camera isn't overly impressive on auto mode, BUT the screen seems a lot better than the G3 the whites are a lot cooler and the blacks look blacker
So is there anyway to adjust the screen colours on the G3? And I'd there a mod to disable that 90% brightness cap?
Thanks
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I have just received my 32GB european G3, stunning phone in hand, speakers seems really good, but out of everything that I am let down by it is surprisingly the screen I wanted to be blown away and unfortunately I'm not.
I have the Z2 at the moment and I am in no way sticking up for the Z2 it's horrible, uncomfortable in hand, slippy, the vibrate is annoying, the camera isn't overly impressive on auto mode, BUT the screen seems a lot better than the G3 the whites are a lot cooler and the blacks look blacker
So is there anyway to adjust the screen colours on the G3? And I'd there a mod to disable that 90% brightness cap?
Thanks
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Here's one for the brightness http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790759 but no way to change the whites yet but I'm sure someone will port it with a custom kernel
Maybe its the glue that you have to let settle in? I've seen some g3 on video and I like the warmth of the whites. But that's how white looks naturally lol
According to is certification it's 100% RGB accurate http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-5-5-inch-quad-hd-378056/
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maybe you have a faulty phone
I actually bought it from a store and sent it to my friend in INDIA he seems to have a dim display one,the bit on the reddish side. Now,he isn't enjoying his new mobile because of the forum about screens being on a warmer side. Please help me out how to adjust the contrast. If at all I can do something from here to help him out because sending the mobile back here would be pain in the arse.
I dont if it will solve his problem but settiings/general/accessibility/color adjustment there is a dial you can move around to adjust to your liking. As far as being dim, ive heard others say the same thing. I keep on my 35%. Anything above 70% and i need to wear sunglasses lol
He was actually using his mobile at 0% brightness and thats what have him a red tint of he increases his brightness to 40% or 50% He has no issues about this. I showed him the picture comparison of two G3 s. He said that the left one is exactly what it looks like at 10% brightness and right one about 60%-70%. I guess the photo in the forum was fake. He has no issues now.
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He was actually using his mobile at 0% brightness and thats what have him a red tint of he increases his brightness to 40% or 50% He has no issues about this. I showed him the picture comparison of two G3 s. He said that the left one is exactly what it looks like at 10% brightness and right one about 60%-70%. I guess the photo in the forum was fake. He has no issues now.
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At 0% brightness, my g3 has reddish whites or a slight purple cast. You cannot notice it at all unless you are under the perfect conditions. Plus you need another device or phone to compare. But my g3 has whiter whites than all the phones I have seen. Even the s5.