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Need help charging problem

when i connect the normal charger to the phone, the charging light appears and the phone does not charges! on USB to laptop its ok, the phone charges , but on normal charger it does not charge...
any ideas???

I'd say the problem's most probably with the charger. Try using a different one to see it the problem still persists.

but why does the charging light is on ? and the phone says it's charging... ?

OzGurKan said:
but why does the charging light is on ? and the phone says it's charging... ?
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Its definitely a problem with the charger. One loose connection and it all goes hay wire!!
The light stays on because some current IS going through to the phone....

Yes, sounds like the charger.
As a side note, I have an external power pack, and if I plug it into the phone (power pack switched off), the charging icon appears - just on the DHD, not on other phones/ipods. I have learnt to live with this as a minor anomaly of the power pack, but just goes to show that the charging logic is not particularly clear

OzGurKan said:
but why does the charging light is on ? and the phone says it's charging... ?
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dhussa said:
Its definitely a problem with the charger. One loose connection and it all goes hay wire!!
The light stays on because some current IS going through to the phone....
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dhussa said it. The charging light might still be functioning because of some little current going through.. although that might not be enough to charge the phone.
Just try a different charger to ensure that we are thinking in the right direction. If the different charger works it'll eliminate the possibility that there's something wrong with your phone. (Although I doubt it since it is charging via USB.)

yeah...well i still hope it's a software bug :-s since a saw a similar thread and a good battery calibration might just be the cause
oh well...thx guys ...

[Q] GN display "Not Charging" when connected to OEM Charger

Hi
I have weird battery issue with my new GN.
when the phone is ON and connected to AC power the phone isn't charging (display in buttery menu "Not Charging").
if I turn my phone off then its charging without any problem.
Is someone suffer from same issue?
TNX

wow. no I don't have this problem and I haven't heard of this before.
Have you tried connecting it to other chargers besides the OEM ?

Yep.
Tried OEM Motorola Atrix Charger and through usb. same issue =\

Check if you have fastcharge on
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Fastcharge is off
Should I turn it on? (Im using AOKP)
By the way, if I do reboot while my phone connected to AC power, its being charging successfully after the process is finished.
(sry about my english )

asafba said:
Fastcharge is off
Should I turn it on? (Im using AOKP)
By the way, if I do reboot while my phone connected to AC power, its being charging successfully after the process is finished.
(sry about my english )
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You could see if turning it on helps, but it isn't necessary to charge the phone since its a hack. If you do turn fc on, remember you will have to turn it off if/when you plug your phone up to a comp to transfer files.

asafba said:
Hi
I have weird battery issue with my new GN.
when the phone is ON and connected to AC power the phone isn't charging (display in buttery menu "Not Charging").
if I turn my phone off then its charging without any problem.
Is someone suffer from same issue?
TNX
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Yes, I've seen this multiple times on my Sprint Gnex. Seems to happen mainly when I'm running AndChat with poor signal. If I don't pay attention to it it seems that it'll start charging again. Haven't bothered checkin into it that much but my suspicion is that it may be getting too hot.

WiredPirate said:
You could see if turning it on helps, but it isn't necessary to charge the phone since its a hack. If you do turn fc on, remember you will have to turn it off if/when you plug your phone up to a comp to transfer files.
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Unfortunately its doesn't help.
jesusice said:
Yes, I've seen this multiple times on my Sprint Gnex. Seems to happen mainly when I'm running AndChat with poor signal. If I don't pay attention to it it seems that it'll start charging again. Haven't bothered checkin into it that much but my suspicion is that it may be getting too hot.
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I tried to leave it all night and its stay on 7% battery =\

Fixed!!
I solved the issue
Used that tip:
JSY00 said:
Guys, I had this happen to my phone within a week of owning it (a week after release). I almost returned it, but fixed the issue myself. the issue is with the charging terminals touching in the USB/Charging port. Get a flashlight and shine it directly into the port. You'll see the outer part of port is metal, and in the center is a 'tongue' that is also metal, these are the 'terminals'. In my case the tongue was very slightly touching the outer terminal - probably due to the times i carelessly shoved the charger into the port (sometimes upside down). This essentially bent the tongue downwards, and when the two terminals are in contact, the charging circuit is short circuited. I fixed this by taking a pin (though anything flat/thin could work) and pressed the tongue in the opposite direction. This centered the tongue, and by being careful when plugging in my charger, it's never happened since.
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freaked out last nite when the same thing happened to me - thanks this solved it!

[Q] "Helpful" battery full notification

Anyone know how to permanently get rid of this? I used G3 Tweak Box but that just removed the notification in the pull-down. It still vibrates irregularly if you use the phone while it's plugged in as the voltage level climbs and falls. PLEASE for the love of FSM let's get rid of this!

Unplug charger. It gone

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Unplug charger. It gone
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... that's not a fix. It's not even a workaround.

Any other ideas?

Try removing g3 tweak box and exposed then see if it does it. My phone does not. Asked a few other guys and they don't have this issue

BACARDILIMON said:
Try removing g3 tweak box and exposed then see if it does it. My phone does not. Asked a few other guys and they don't have this issue
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It's not Tweks Box or xposed, this stupid notification is a LG feature and there's no way to turn it off. Yet.

JustLok said:
It's not Tweks Box or xposed, this stupid notification is a LG feature and there's no way to turn it off. Yet.
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Could be bad hardware cause mine don't vibrate like his. Also xposed does phone to act stupid. Not for everyone but it does.

Its probably because the phone starts charging again when it hits the 99% mark (or close to 99%) then tells you its at 100 again. This phone doesn't have a pass through for power. If your phone is on its using battery even if its plugged in.

ThePagel said:
Its probably because the phone starts charging again when it hits the 99% mark (or close to 99%) then tells you its at 100 again. This phone doesn't have a pass through for power. If your phone is on its using battery even if its plugged in.
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Damn I charge mine and when I use Pandora plugged in it never drops below 100%. Hmmmm that is weird

BACARDILIMON said:
Damn I charge mine and when I use Pandora plugged in it never drops below 100%. Hmmmm that is weird
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Different batteries but it could be my phone thats broke. All I know is this is the first phone I have owned that I can't remove my battery even though its plugged in.

There's been several of these same threads about the persistent battery notification in this forum as well as the general G3 forum, it's not Xposed or faulty phones. What it seems to be is the charger that's being used, most notably if it's not the OEM charger.
Some are saying it's the battery/phone dropping from 100% to 99%, then charging back to 100% and gives the notification. Others are saying it's just saying you're at 100% and flashing it once a minute or so to remind you.
I'm wondering if it's the charger, as when I'm home and it's plugged in on my old Note 3 2amp charger, I don't get that notification during the night when I'm sleeping.
But, when I'm at work and I'm using my Samsung 1amp cube charger, it keeps displaying and sounding that stupid battery full, unplug to save energy notification over and over.
It could be as ThePagel said, the phone is not getting the full power it needs from the charger, so the battery drops to 99% and charges back up to 100%, display notification, rinse and repeat.
That's why I'm assuming it might be the chargers perhaps.

Could be why I don't have this issue. Both my chargers are 2 amps or higher

JustLok said:
There's been several of these same threads about the persistent battery notification in this forum as well as the general G3 forum, it's not Xposed or faulty phones. What it seems to be is the charger that's being used, most notably if it's not the OEM charger.
Some are saying it's the battery/phone dropping from 100% to 99%, then charging back to 100% and gives the notification. Others are saying it's just saying you're at 100% and flashing it once a minute or so to remind you.
I'm wondering if it's the charger, as when I'm home and it's plugged in on my old Note 3 2amp charger, I don't get that notification during the night when I'm sleeping.
But, when I'm at work and I'm using my Samsung 1amp cube charger, it keeps displaying and sounding that stupid battery full, unplug to save energy notification over and over.
It could be as ThePagel said, the phone is not getting the full power it needs from the charger, so the battery drops to 99% and charges back up to 100%, display notification, rinse and repeat.
That's why I'm assuming it might be the chargers perhaps.
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This describes the problem perfectly. The charger I am using is a 2.1A charger, though, so I don't understand why it keeps doing that. I also don't understand how it could possibly be using enough power to actually discharge the battery down from 100% to 99% WHILE being charged even from a 1A charger. How much freaking juice does this thing need to use?!

ThePagel said:
Different batteries but it could be my phone thats broke. All I know is this is the first phone I have owned that I can't remove my battery even though its plugged in.
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My Galaxy Note II was like this too, so was my Nexus One and my T-Mobile G2 (HTC Vision). This isn't a strange phenomenon AFAIK.

starkruzr said:
This describes the problem perfectly. The charger I am using is a 2.1A charger, though, so I don't understand why it keeps doing that. I also don't understand how it could possibly be using enough power to actually discharge the battery down from 100% to 99% WHILE being charged even from a 1A charger. How much freaking juice does this thing need to use?!
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What charger are you using?

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What charger are you using?
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I just checked it; it's actually a 2.4A and it's designed to be able to charge two devices at the same time. It's a PowerGen HLPG-001-12W. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerGen-Bl...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item46234c30b0 Mine is white, but it's the same one.

BACARDILIMON said:
Could be bad hardware cause mine don't vibrate like his. Also xposed does phone to act stupid. Not for everyone but it does.
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I'm not trying to to bad mouth xposed or anything it is really cool but it seems like everything I ever tried to do with xposed is buggy. It really is to bad that most roms depend on it so much now a day's. I miss the hard framework modifications that worked perfect unless the developer made a mistake. But I do understand it can take a long time to add some of the stuff xposed gives for example reboot options. Sorry I just realized I went way off subject lol.

starkruzr said:
I just checked it; it's actually a 2.4A and it's designed to be able to charge two devices at the same time. It's a PowerGen HLPG-001-12W. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerGen-Bl...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item46234c30b0 Mine is white, but it's the same one.
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That might be the issue. It might be 2.4 all together but 1.2 per port. I have the note 3 which is 2 amp and the lg one also 2.1. My car has 2 port but it is 4.3 amp so it could do 2.1 per port. That be why I don't have that issue. Try the lg plug and see if it same thing.

BACARDILIMON said:
That might be the issue. It might be 2.4 all together but 1.2 per port. I have the note 3 which is 2 amp and the lg one also 2.1. My car has 2 port but it is 4.3 amp so it could do 2.1 per port. That be why I don't have that issue. Try the lg plug and see if it same thing.
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I'm now remembering that the LG charger is the one on my nighttable at home and it definitely has the same issue on that one.

starkruzr said:
I'm now remembering that the LG charger is the one on my nighttable at home and it definitely has the same issue on that one.
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Just found an old blackberry USB charger. Holy cow that's old lol. It is .9 amps. I been using my phone and it keep dropping back and fourth. I really dunno what to tell you bro. When I use normal amp stuff I am OK when I use low amp I get what you get. Maybe the new kernel that came out will help you out.

charging issue

is there anyone with problems charging the t320?
it goes fine until 40%, above that or stops charging or is really slow, like 1% in one hour.
i thought it was a rom issue, so i flashed the original rom from sammobile
the charging at this moment is 56%, 150mA average, when isn't negative - 200
this is stock usb and charger, and also with other charger/cable is the same

Me too
monteiro-ribas said:
is there anyone with problems charging the t320?
it goes fine until 40%, above that or stops charging or is really slow, like 1% in one hour.
i thought it was a rom issue, so i flashed the original rom from sammobile
the charging at this moment is 56%, 150mA average, when isn't negative - 200
this is stock usb and charger, and also with other charger/cable is the same
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I was just searching the forums as bought mine yesterday and have a similar problem, mine got to 56% then stopped charging. If i turn off the tablet it does start to charge again so will fully charge with it powered down and see what happens.

soon i'll be testing another charger
you can see the charging voltage on the galaxy charging current available on playstore
most likely i will use warranty

monteiro-ribas said:
soon i'll be testing another charger
you can see the charging voltage on the galaxy charging current available on playstore
most likely i will use warranty
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@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.

Thanks
dottat said:
@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.
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Thanks for the reply but it seems my issue was caused by a faulty outlet socket. The socket works fine for everything else but would only charge the tablet when it was powered down. Tried charging off my laptop and desktop usb and it was the same, but tried some other outlet sockets and they charge fine. I understand the usb outlets might not provide enough to charge the tablet but hadn't considered the socket as I know it works, must be just enough high resistance to prevent it charging a working tablet but provides enough current to charge it when it's powered down. The fact it was showing a 56% charge was just co-incidence.
Thought it might be worth posting this as it's not something I've come across before.

tidy01 said:
Thanks for the reply but it seems my issue was caused by a faulty outlet socket. The socket works fine for everything else but would only charge the tablet when it was powered down. Tried charging off my laptop and desktop usb and it was the same, but tried some other outlet sockets and they charge fine. I understand the usb outlets might not provide enough to charge the tablet but hadn't considered the socket as I know it works, must be just enough high resistance to prevent it charging a working tablet but provides enough current to charge it when it's powered down. The fact it was showing a 56% charge was just co-incidence.
Thought it might be worth posting this as it's not something I've come across before.
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Here's the thing. When mine was misbehaving I could get it to start charging again by switching outlets or even reversing polarity on the wall plug. It was a temporary fix as within days the problem would be back. I thought I had it fixed so many times. It always came back. If it happens to you again just remember the above post. It's been four months since I did it and never once has it been quirky. Something in the hardware needed reset that only disconnecting the battery could do.

dottat said:
Here's the thing. When mine was misbehaving I could get it to start charging again by switching outlets or even reversing polarity on the wall plug. It was a temporary fix as within days the problem would be back. I thought I had it fixed so many times. It always came back. If it happens to you again just remember the above post. It's been four months since I did it and never once has it been quirky. Something in the hardware needed reset that only disconnecting the battery could do.
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Thanks once again, I will keep this in mind if does happen again.

dottat said:
@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.
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Hi, I have this problem also, as well as random reboots. I just want to ask you on how to take the back off of the Tab Pro 8.4?
Cheers

Zakanam said:
Hi, I have this problem also, as well as random reboots. I just want to ask you on how to take the back off of the Tab Pro 8.4?
Cheers
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Very gently use something like a guitar pick or a credit card to pry it up around the edges

dottat said:
Very gently use something like a guitar pick or a credit card to pry it up around the edges
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Thanks for your reply. Would you pry the back faux leather cover from the back, or from the front via the glass screen (like in note 10.1 2014)?
I wouldn't want to break my tab he he thanks

Zakanam said:
Thanks for your reply. Would you pry the back faux leather cover from the back, or from the front via the glass screen (like in note 10.1 2014)?
I wouldn't want to break my tab he he thanks
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It's the faux leather thing you pry off. Keep the angle that you pull on the cover shallow and work it slowly.

dottat said:
It's the faux leather thing you pry off. Keep the angle that you pull on the cover shallow and work it slowly.
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with no other solution i did too pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board, now it's working OK, let's see how long

cabel pull
hoping this works. I just filled out a warranty email today for same issue on 12.2 Tab Pro. It pried the case open with a credit card. Very slow, took about 7 minutes. Pulling the power cable in the middle, probably behind green tape. Use needle nose pliers or something small behind the wires and pull up. The pins are tiny and will f*ck the whole thing up if bent.
I get the feeling that the screen turns itself on even when eye tracking settings are off or closed in case. I hear the annoying sound at night when charging. Why Sammy does not have a smart current sensor built in is insane. Asking you to unplug when most people will leave on and charge overnight. Just dumb.
I can't get past 57% charging for last 2 weeks. Stock, unrooted for first time in a long time, so I am pissed to hear ROM had not effect. This is likely undocumented hardware issue Sammy doesn't want to admit to.

even on my T325 I had the same problem but I solved it this way ...
I have worn the battery completely until turn off my device, I loaded the battery overnight to device OFF.
wipe and install rom custom samsung
I launched and used app "battery calibraton" (root)
I have now done 4 cycles of charging to 1600/1750 mA

house66 said:
even on my T325 I had the same problem but I solved it this way ...
I have worn the battery completely until turn off my device, I loaded the battery overnight to device OFF.
wipe and install rom custom samsung
I launched and used app "battery calibraton" (root)
I have now done 4 cycles of charging to 1600/1750 mA
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The battery "unplug" works....

monteiro-ribas said:
with no other solution i did too pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board, now it's working OK, let's see how long
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Still good?

mgp53 said:
The battery "unplug" works....
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There is no need for physical interventions on the hardware, maybe someone does not know in depth the behavior of lithium ions

house66 said:
There is no need for physical interventions on the hardware, maybe someone does not know in depth the behavior of lithium ions
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Perhaps not, but I and MANY others have encountered the same problem. Across multiple Roms, fully discharging and recharging, running the so called calibration apps. Rebooting, unpluggin, replugging. The problem NEVER fully went away. It would work for a charge cycle or two or three, then would reappear.
I finally took the back off, unplugged and replugged the connector., closed up the case, charged it for several hours before turning it back on.
Not ONCE has the problem occurred since that intervention. That was over a month ago.
Maybe it's not lithium ion behavior, it might be in the charging circuit and hardware.
If you have a suggestion, then by all means share it so others can solve their problem.

mgp53 said:
Perhaps not, but I and MANY others have encountered the same problem. Across multiple Roms, fully discharging and recharging, running the so called calibration apps. Rebooting, unpluggin, replugging. The problem NEVER fully went away. It would work for a charge cycle or two or three, then would reappear.
I finally took the back off, unplugged and replugged the connector., closed up the case, charged it for several hours before turning it back on.
Not ONCE has the problem occurred since that intervention. That was over a month ago.
Maybe it's not lithium ion behavior, it might be in the charging circuit and hardware.
If you have a suggestion, then by all means share it so others can solve their problem.
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I've already written how I solved the problem, but in 5 years and dozens of Android rom installed on various devices, this problem for me was very frequent.
Always the same. On my ST325 I solved like other times in the past.
No news I found on this battery, battery charger of the same problems since I know Android

*mgp53
sorry for my bad English ...
for this device I've tried all the roms available (CM11 or not)
the problem is very acute especially after CM11> Pro Plus V2, but the problems had already occurred some time with the various installations buil CM11
about a week I did the operation described above (already done in the past even on my previous samsung device, Note 1, Galaxy s4, Galaxy Mega, Galaxy tab 3 g3 ) with the same result ...
The battery charges very quickly with the device ON to 1700 mA (monitored with "Monitor battery widgwt pro")
again sorry for my english

Is the battery dead/destroyed?

My M8 has no feedback whatsoever, even plugged into the HTC brand charger, nothing happens. However, I plugged it into a 2.1A charger and got the little battery charging logo to appear, still no boot. Is the battery dead? This started happening after switching from CWM to TWRP, should I try to get the phone to turn on and switch it back to CWM?

Leave the phone on charger for several hours, then try holding power+vol up for 30 seconds or so. See if there is any change.

I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
http://i.imgur.com/pBGIwBO.png

redpoint73 said:
Leave the phone on charger for several hours, then try holding power+vol up for 30 seconds or so. See if there is any change.
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I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
http://i.imgur.com/pBGIwBO.png
EDIT: 0%. The phone can boot but I just turned it back off.
http://i.imgur.com/ePlLvgq.png

BFCE said:
I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
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This a pretty relevant detail. Probably more the issue than changing to TWRP. And to answer that question, no I would not switch back to CWM, since its obsolete on this device and no longer really supported.

redpoint73 said:
This a pretty relevant detail. Probably more the issue than changing to TWRP. And to answer that question, no I would not switch back to CWM, since its obsolete on this device and no longer really supported.
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Okay so I've been charging it since my last post. I just turned it on and it claims to have 1%. But hey! It's on!

Thank you!! I changed out the cable I was using to charge the phone (I was using the stock HTC cable, grabbed some random Asus cable) and plugged the 2.1A charger directly into the wall (previously using an extension cable) and after doing what you said, just letting it charge for several hours and then turning it on, I got a 24% charge!!! I guess this means I can just never let the phone die if I don't feel like having this issue again. Thanks!! Now I have two high end android phones again!

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I changed out the cable I was using to charge the phone (I was using the stock HTC cable, grabbed some random Asus cable) and plugged the 2.1A charger directly into the wall (previously using an extension cable) and after doing what you said, just letting it charge for several hours and then turning it on, I got a 24% charge!!! I guess this means I can just never let the phone die if I don't feel like having this issue again.
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Good work! It should have been said before to always try different chargers and cords if suffering charging issues. I saw you had tried a different charger, but missed the fact that you used the same cable. Charger/cable are not always the issue, but at least you can easily eliminate those as the cause by some experimentation.
If you again discharge the phone to shutdown, and doesn't power on after charging; you can usually: charge for several hours, then hold power + vol up until it boots.
But that being said, discharging the phone to shutdown should usually be avoided. Most all of us have done it at some time or other. But one should not make it a habit. There are safeguards that are supposed to prevent battery voltage from dropping too low (by shutting down the phone once voltage reaches a certain threshold) but those safeguards are not ironclad. And once the voltage drops too low, you can be stuck in a tough spot. Plus, fully battery discharge/charge cycles are not best for long term battery life of Li ion batteries. So again, discharging the battery to shutdown should be avoided as much as possible.

I seem to have this exact issue now too. Even with the way the charging port has to be for it to charge. Unfortunately it seems the port is messed up somehow now or maybe the battery connections are bad.
Though I'm technically able to pull it apart i haven't done it yet. Maybe it knows it's now getting old lol
Looks like it's time to upgrade to a new phone for me. :/

shadowline said:
I seem to have this exact issue now too. Even with the way the charging port has to be for it to charge. Unfortunately it seems the port is messed up somehow now or maybe the battery connections are bad.
Though I'm technically able to pull it apart i haven't done it yet. Maybe it knows it's now getting old lol
Looks like it's time to upgrade to a new phone for me. :/
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Try putting it while pulling down and to the right of the cable. I held mine like that for an hour or two to make it turn on. Once I did so I opened ampere only to discover that even when it says it's charging, it's actually not. I have to angle it or the left to make it get power, even though just angling it upward makes it say it's charging.
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Yeah I've had it say charging on and off for the last day and a half. But it seems that when I hit the "sweet spot" it just doesn't stay charging and then quickly discharges any bit of charge.

shadowline said:
Yeah I've had it say charging on and off for the last day and a half. But it seems that when I hit the "sweet spot" it just doesn't stay charging and then quickly discharges any bit of charge.
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Happened to me too. Legit hold it in your hand for about 20 minutes. Turn it on as soon as possible to monitor the amperage
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