Develop Bugs

Daylight

I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
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Joe

Only use it at night.....
Or turn the brightness up.
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I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
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It's clearly visible to me in direct sunlight on a clear, sunny, 28 degrees C day above 67% brightness. I used it for navigation in car in such a state for 3 hours. But... my eyesight is still working sharp in both eyes.
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Joefried said:
I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
Ta.
Joe
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I know the Desire screen don't have any problem in daylight.
If you can't see the screen in daylight use auto-brightness instead of low brightness so you can see the screen

I don't have a problem with my desire in the sun, it very visible. Try seting the brightness to auto.
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Crack da' brightness!
I pulled my battery the second day I had my desire, I thought it had crashed but I just couldn't see the screen.

While the Desire's screen isn't great in daylight, it's never been so bad that I've been unable to type, make calls etc.
Watching a film or playing a game in broad daylight wouldn't be much fun, but as far as normal usage goes on sunny days, I've had no real problems.
The auto brightness feature isn't completely reliable in my experience. You could always use a brightness widget to set 100% brightness for outdoor use.

Maybe my eyesight is really bad... how do you turn on Auto brightness?
Joe

Menu, Settings, Sound and Display, Brightness, check the box.
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I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...

setspeed said:
I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...
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Maybe you don't have auto-brightness enabled or have a very low brightness - and yes, with little brightness you can't see a thing.
But i live in a very very sunny country, and with auto-brightness i don't have any problem with the Desire screen.

I don't have any problems with screen brightness on my desire. I leave it on auto and can sweetie perfectly well when outside too
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I've found an anti-glare screen protector helps outdoors. I'm still not sure I like how it makes the screen look though.

Are there different screens out there : ???: I purposely used this phone in direct very hot sunlight and I could clearly see all that I needed to see... perhaps you have dodgy sunlight up your way?
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setspeed said:
I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...
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I would suggest some kind of head torch.

It must be very dull where some of you live. The screen is not good in full sun.
And yes, I know how to turn the brightness to max.

After I turned on auto brightness, I found I didn't have an issue
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i think it depends on your screen protector.

I think the users complaining mean this problem: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/3764/3430-9329.jpg (lower left screen)
And if you're in that situation with very strong, direct sunlight then your screen brightness is still below 25%.
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I use the stock "power control" widget which is consisting of 5 different switchers including brightness to maximize brightness level when under daylight. However, when you use this, auto-brightness will no longer be in use (to enable it back you have to go to the settings manually). Alternatively, i use a 3rd party app called "brightness profiles" that is available in the market. With this app, I can use auto function whenever i want thanks to its shortcut (a nice widget) on my home screen, as well as various pre-determined brightness levels; low-normal-high-max, etc. You can add more profiles to existing three as default and customize them as per your desire i.e. adjust level and rename profiles. However, the main disadvantage of this nice prog is; when you use it in the lowest level profile, then switched from it to "auto", then -after a while- when you need to use it in max just because of you are under the sunlight, as soon as you unmark "auto" checkbox in the app window it will go to the lowest level since you have used it most recently. in this case, you just need to set to normal before activating "auto" via this app, at least until its dev solve this issue. Anyways, it is worth to give a try.

Auto Brightness = Low

Has anyone noticed stock auto brightness is equal to the LOW setting? The only thing it does, whether it's a dark room or bright room is flip the brightness to LOW.

a_ok2me said:
Has anyone noticed stock auto brightness is equal to low?
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no, i think auto brightness is too bright for me in most of the time? did your case block the sensor?

vista1984 said:
no, i think auto brightness is too bright for me in most of the time? did your case block the sensor?
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I don't have a case yet.

I agree that auto-brightness is too low. I manually set the brightness.

I agree the auto brightness is pretty low. However I like it, and it saves battery.
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The auto brightness is to high for me too. In low light conditions if I turn off the auto setting I can force the screen lower.
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I notice when the screen dims especially on auto dim that the screen flickers or strobes like the tail lights on cadillacs, I cant read any thing easily. The best way to see it is to quickly scan from the top of the screen to the bottom or vise versa in a dimly lit room, you will see a stepped image.

That's why I haven't used stock auto-brightness since my last HTC phone. I've used third party apps to control my brightness, since I had the original Note. Lux is my favorite. So much control over the brightness settings. You can control the lowest brightness setting the phone will hit in addition to numerous other variables. Works really well for me.

Mine works flawlessly. It usually is set at the lowest setting until needed to be boosted.
This gorgeous screen still suffers from being too damn bright in the dark! Needs a filter on it so your retinas don't burn in the dark.
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I had to use lux auto brightness to lower mine it was very bright. You might want to use it to increase yours if it's low .

G Pro Auto brightness not Working

Just curious if anyone else is having this issue.
I have the box checked, but I found myself manually adjusting, thinking it just wasn't very sensitive. I turned on auto brightness, moved the slider all the way to dim, went out to the sunlight, and it had no effect. Unchecked, and rechecked the box, restated the phone, did the opposite in a dark room... No effect.
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davidusr said:
Just curious if anyone else is having this issue.
I have the box checked, but I found myself manually adjusting, thinking it just wasn't very sensitive. I turned on auto brightness, moved the slider all the way to dim, went out to the sunlight, and it had no effect. Unchecked, and rechecked the box, restated the phone, did the opposite in a dark room... No effect.
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I believe the slider sets the maximum brightness. So when you go out in the sunlight the spot where you placed it is the brightest it will get.

mrfeuss said:
I believe the slider sets the maximum brightness. So when you go out in the sunlight the spot where you placed it is the brightest it will get.
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I thought that also... But when I had the slider at full bright, with auto turned on, in a pitch black room, it should have dimmed, correct?
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Looks like my phone might be doing the same thing... I'm wondering if I should swap my phone out before it's too late to exchange it for an S4.

+1 in the same boat
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davidusr said:
I thought that also... But when I had the slider at full bright, with auto turned on, in a pitch black room, it should have dimmed, correct?
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Yeah, you're right. Do you have a screen protector on that might be interfering with the ambient light sensor, by any chance?

mrfeuss said:
Yeah, you're right. Do you have a screen protector on that might be interfering with the ambient light sensor, by any chance?
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Butt naked! No case, nothing... I see I'm not alone though.
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davidusr said:
Butt naked! No case, nothing... I see I'm not alone though.
Swifted from my LGOG-Pro
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Same here must be a bug. But I don't use that function so no biggie for me.
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nthknd said:
Same here must be a bug. But I don't use that function so no biggie for me.
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Seems to work with a third party app so I think its software related
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I don't think it's a bug. The auto brightness on some LG phones doesn't work like the rest of Android phones. On some LG phones, you set the brightness to a certain level and the auto brightness will work around that particular level.
Say you have it at 75% brightness and auto brightness on, the level will go up to maybe about 85% while outdoors and maybe to about 65% in a dim room. Set it at 35% brightness with auto brightness on, the level goes up to 45% in a bright area and 25% in a dark area. That's how my old iPhone 4 used to work.

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I don't think it's a bug. The auto brightness on some LG phones doesn't work like the rest of Android phones. On some LG phones, you set the brightness to a certain level and the auto brightness will work around that particular level.
Say you have it at 75% brightness and auto brightness on, the level will go up to maybe about 85% while outdoors and maybe to about 65% in a dim room. Set it at 35% brightness with auto brightness on, the level goes up to 45% in a bright area and 25% in a dark area. That's how my old iPhone 4 used to work.
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The way you described the functionality is what I have witnessed mine doing. I had to play around with it for a few days before I figured out what it was doing. No matter which level of brightness I set, auto brightness will adjust up and down from there based on ambient lighting. I do like having this option since it basically lets you further tweak the auto brightness to a comfortable level. On my other phones, a lot of the times the auto brightness was either to bright or too dark compared to what I would have preferred.

I thought there was something wrong with the auto brightness on mine as well. I have it on 70% auto bright set and it never seems to change. I have a screen protector but it has cutouts around the camera and other sensors and ear piece so I knew it wasn't that and I also tested it prior to putting the screen protector on.
Seems odd that LG would go a different route on what auto brightness is compared to the rest of the Android OEM's. sort of defeats the purpose but perhaps that is why we have to keep the setting so high to begin with.

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I thought there was something wrong with the auto brightness on mine as well. I have it on 70% auto bright set and it never seems to change. I have a screen protector but it has cutouts around the camera and other sensors and ear piece so I knew it wasn't that and I also tested it prior to putting the screen protector on.
Seems odd that LG would go a different route on what auto brightness is compared to the rest of the Android OEM's. sort of defeats the purpose but perhaps that is why we have to keep the setting so high to begin with.
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I got mine to work. Its kinda strange. I was playing around and I shot a video as I played the video back I hit the menus button and there is a setting for auto dimming so I check it and my phone dimmed so then I checked to see if my main auto brightness would work so I went into settings and checked auto bright there too and the screen dimmed. Havent been outside yet but before this the setting did nothing see if you guys can get it to work on yours.
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I got mine to work. Its kinda strange. I was playing around and I shot a video as I played the video back I hit the menus button and there is a setting for auto dimming so I check it and my phone dimmed so then I checked to see if my main auto brightness would work so I went into settings and checked auto bright there too and the screen dimmed. Havent been outside yet but before this the setting did nothing see if you guys can get it to work on yours.
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mine too, the 'auto brightness' seem doesn't work properly, just got dimmed, but not working as well as other phones's auto brightness did

Sharpshooterrr said:
I don't think it's a bug. The auto brightness on some LG phones doesn't work like the rest of Android phones. On some LG phones, you set the brightness to a certain level and the auto brightness will work around that particular level.
Say you have it at 75% brightness and auto brightness on, the level will go up to maybe about 85% while outdoors and maybe to about 65% in a dim room. Set it at 35% brightness with auto brightness on, the level goes up to 45% in a bright area and 25% in a dark area. That's how my old iPhone 4 used to work.
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Yes, autobrightness on LG works this way since ICS was rolled out for LG Nitro. At 100% even with autobrightness screen will not dim, and at 0% level with or w/o autobrightness screen will not light up.
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Seems odd that LG would go a different route on what auto brightness is compared to the rest of the Android OEM's. sort of defeats the purpose but perhaps that is why we have to keep the setting so high to begin with.
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No, it's right way because brightness sensor works different than human eye and like was said here other phones usually set brightness too dim or too bright using that sensor.

I also think the work Auto Brightness is on the phone E980 strange ... I do not see any change in brightness depending on the ambient light ... Not like all the other android phones

Billy Madison said:
Yes, autobrightness on LG works this way since ICS was rolled out for LG Nitro. At 100% even with autobrightness screen will not dim, and at 0% level with or w/o autobrightness screen will not light up.
No, it's right way because brightness sensor works different than human eye and like was said here other phones usually set brightness too dim or too bright using that sensor.
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If that is the case, why is there no effect of ambient light on the screen??? The brightness remains the same whatever be the light condition.

I thought my phone had the same issue as everyone else but noticed this weekend when I stepped into a very bright area my screen automatically adjusted the brightness to a higher setting.
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now works correctly in this firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419802

Mine has worked from day one and better than my GnoteII I upgraded from... As others have said, it's configured around the amount of brightness you originally set it to.

where is the light sensor of the OGPro located...?

Adaptive Brightness Issues

With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?

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With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?
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Same here.
So annoying I had to turn adaptive off.
Seems to be when I move, probably changing sensor and it's too sensitive. My head mush change/reflect light on sensor
Anyway it's so distracting that I can't use adaptive brightness, except when pitch dark I can set to 0% adaptive to have lowest light output
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Yep, reminds me of a disco strobe light!

No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.

I installed Lux Dash and disabled "adaptive brightness" and let Lux handle it. You can go into the profile editor for Lux and setup different presets for different levels of light, you can also adjust the min and max allowed brightness and even setup how you want it to adjust brightness (fade, only set on unlock, dynamic, etc)
It has really made this screen amazing and even helps with battery because most the day my screen doesn't go above 15-20%

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No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.
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I've been fine here with the Adaptive Brightness too. Doesn't change too often at all for me.
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I installed Lux also and that did the trick. I assume the sensor is fine since Lux uses it with no problem. It's odd that some of us are having problems and others aren't but it doesn't seem to be a sensor issue.

Having this same issue any solution?

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Having this same issue any solution?
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I'm curious but how exactly is it reacting for you? Are you just sitting in bed with the lights on and it's still adjusting up and down the brightness? Cause that's what I'm doing right now and it hasn't fluctuated at all. If I put it on the bedside table it'll brighten up and when I pick it up it dims but that's it.
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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same

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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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I'm curious to hear what the tell you. Lux has helped me a lot bit I still notice it. To be fair I think I only notice in a dim or dark room with the TV on but this is the first phone I've used where it's noticeable to me. I'm also wondering if this is how it's supposed to work or if there's something wrong with my phone.

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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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What I described was too much? Sounds appropriate to me. If there's extra light on the phone, I want it to get brighter. If that light goes away, I want it to get dimmer. Now if it was happening with no light changing then I would be annoyed. I keep it at 29% with Adaptive Brightness on and it's not too dark in outside light and not too bright in pitch dark.
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I'm having the same issue. I'm on my second Pixel 2 XL so I don't think it's a sensor problem. I only notice it in lower lighting but it's really annoying when it happens. Haven't seen this issue on any other phone. Im trying out Lux now and set it to only adjust when waking up. There were similar issues when Lux was set to Dynamic.

Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.

Hobox10 said:
Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.
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You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.

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You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.
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Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun to be legible and not more. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.

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Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.
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I found the threshold for the lowest brightness in pitch dark with Adaptive Brightness on to be 29%. That should be dark enough in dark rooms and outdoors it's readable to me. What percentages have you been trying?

Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.

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Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.
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Yeah I had a feeling that's what people might be experiencing.

To add on to this thread, this is also occuring on my gen 1 Pixel.
Ever since I upgraded to 8.1 the adaptive display will brighten/darken while the phone is sitting still in a constantly lit room.
I also appear to have lost much of the granularity in the brightness selecting bar. The first 25% or so is as dim as it goes, and only after that does it begin to alter the brightness. Previously it would begin around 10% on the bar.
Additionally, the logic behind adaptive brightness seems to have gotten worse. I previously left my brightness setting always in the same place, and no matter where I was it was either dim enough (at night) or bright enough (during the day).
Real unhappy with this update.

brightness limitation is hard-coded

If you have absolute max brightness on the note 10+ and go to a hdr YouTube video then enter thumbnail view the screen will be noticeably brighter don't know if it can be seen in screen shots

Forgot the one without the video playing

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If you have absolute max brightness on the note 10+ and go to a hdr YouTube video then enter thumbnail view the screen will be noticeably brighter don't know if it can be seen in screen shots
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That's the Video Enchancer setting, under advanced settings. Been that way since at least the S8. Maybe the S7, I can't remember for sure.
And no, screen brightness won't show up in a screenshot.

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That's the Video Enchancer setting, under advanced settings. Been that way since at least the S8. Maybe the S7, I can't remember for sure.
And no, screen brightness won't show up in a screenshot.
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can this brightness be forced completely?

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can this brightness be forced completely?
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Set power mode to High Performance. It bumps screen brightness 10%.
Then go get your eyes checked. If you need the screen that bright, there may be a health issue.

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Set power mode to High Performance. It bumps screen brightness 10%.
Then go get your eyes checked. If you need the screen that bright, there may be a health issue.
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i do have 10 already set and i like bright vibrant displays i always use max brightness on everything never in my life have i used auto brightness on anything

Only time I use max brightness is when outside. And yes, high performance mode definitely boosts the max brightness. As a contractor I have my phone set to high performance and Auto brightness when working outside. Since Auto brightness actually gets significantly brighter than manual max brightness outside, I only use Auto brightness when outside. Otherwise when inside or in normal lighting conditions I am on optimized performance setting and manual brightness of about 60%. That is plenty bright enough for my eyes inside or not when outside in bright sunlight.