Zenfone 2 ZE551ML using too much RAM. - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the 4gb version and it always uses about 1.5-2 gb RAM (30-50%) even after cleaning. Isnt it too much? I have disabled every app in autostart manager. Please help!
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shubham21197 said:
I have the 4gb version and it always uses about 1.5-2 gb RAM (30-50%) even after cleaning. Isnt it too much? I have disabled every app in autostart manager. Please help!
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Seems about consistent with what I get. Try using Greenify or freezing apps with ti backup.
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shubham21197 said:
I have the 4gb version and it always uses about 1.5-2 gb RAM (30-50%) even after cleaning. Isnt it too much? I have disabled every app in autostart manager. Please help!
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Its not the problem with ur device only. Zen UI is poorly optimized in terms of ram management. My zf2 ze551ml(2gb version) constantly uses 1.5-1.7 gb. Hope cm or custom rom may address this issue. Also this isn't some hardware problem.

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mem info?

i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
bongholio said:
i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
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Internal storage?
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Internal storage?
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I think he's talking about the RAM. Android manages memory different than OS X or Windows. Full is actually good. People are always going overboard with task killers trying to free up RAM. Android will free up RAM as necessary, so you really shouldn't ever have to worry about it. Unlike Windows when it gets full it puts memory into swap on the HDD slowing it down. Android will just quit the app, because you haven't used it in a while.
Just for reference I have 246MB available on CM7 with a fresh boot. After using it a few hours, I generally have about 90MB free on average.

What is the ram memeory looking like on your devices?

Anyone with the memory booster app. What's the percentages of used and unused ram?
With 2gigs of ram I don't need a memory manager app.
At most I end up using maybe 1gig.
I used one before I upgraded from the Moment.
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Hostage XII said:
With 2gigs of ram I don't need a memory manager app.
At most I end up using maybe 1gig.
I used one before I upgraded from the Moment.
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I have one gig .
How much ram is being used is the question then.
I'm pretty sure memory booster apps are unneeded. Android already has its own built it task manager - Low priority apps will be removed from RAM after all the RAM is used.
If memory booster apps just kill every app, it's seems kind of pointless since having multiple apps open is the point of RAM. Also, unused RAM is useless RAM so it really doesn't matter how much unused RAM you have.
edub186 said:
I have one gig .
How much ram is being used is the question then.
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Thats sh..ty. im sorry guy. The 2gigs is worth not having quad core exynos processor. More cores doesn't always mean better
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yousefak said:
I'm pretty sure memory booster apps are unneeded. Android already has its own built it task manager - Low priority apps will be removed from RAM after all the RAM is used.
If memory booster apps just kill every app, it's seems kind of pointless since having multiple apps open is the point of RAM. Also, unused RAM is useless RAM so it really doesn't matter how much unused RAM you have.
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I understand that. I'm not using it to kill apps. Just to check my memory use because it use percentages.
edub186 said:
I understand that. I'm not using it to kill apps. Just to check my memory use because it use percentages.
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Ah, ok. I don't really know what a memory booster app does so it's partially my fault for not looking it up first.
Just long press the home button and choose task manager all the info you want should be there.
When I reboot and then immediately kill all apps, I have 1.3gb......but I usually have a little over 1gb on average.

System memory

I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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eriknors said:
I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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Substitute system memory for ram? You mean like a pagefile on windoze? Or just freeing up more ram? Not really following what you mean.
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Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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eriknors said:
Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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eriknors said:
Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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I'm not saying it will run slower, I don't have the knowledge to tell you if it would improve things or not. Just making it easier to understand
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Haven't really looked at it, but it depends on whether we use up all the RAM often, and I don't think we do.
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I think NO.. we can only adjust CPU frequency though
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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cstone1991 said:
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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I also thought the other way before. But after some googling I also found that linux is something like that.
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cstone1991 said:
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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No worries. I think most people here think the same way because most of us use Windows. I wouldn't have known differently if I hadn't read it previously on here. That's the same reason why task killers are bad.
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I'm in love with Linux 2 home computers run it and my laptop duel boots Ubuntu and windows 7. Great combo. Never owned a Mac probably never will. Also haven't messed with cron ( is that right) in Linux/android) but hear good things.
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Android puts background processes that arent running in the foreground in cache memory, that way it's not eating up ram like if it was still running but since its in the cache, if you open the program though it will still come up quickly since it is cached, only certain programs that are frequently used are like that though...
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Where is my free ram?

Ok, i get it. I know how android control ram, free ram is wasted ram and if app needs ram then system will end some apps but seriously?
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19 MB free? Is it normal? Apex launcher reload too often. There isn't any super consuming app on neither list nor in "cached app".
I just checked on SystemPanel Lite and there is "Interface 110MB"
I am using Paranoid Android 3+ with AK Purity kernel.
After reboot and I got 150-200 MB (Interface - 38 MB). Just wondering for how long.
How much free ram have you got just right now? How often your launcher reload?
Thanks
43 available ram at the moment. Launcher doesn't redraw often. Running aokp mr1 build 4.
271mb free. Launcher never redraws, system overall very snappy. Only leave Messaging, Phone and Chrome in recent apps.
My phones currently at just over a week uptime with 265mb free, and I never clear recent apps. Also no launcher redraws using nova prime.
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166mb free..
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342 free...
What apps do you have installed? And I'm betting that pie or lmt or whatever it is is going to end up being responsible for a lot it memory usage too.
Also, your rom could just be heavy on theory usage. The more tweaks/customizations/options, the memory used.
Edit: also, how many widgets do you have?
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While we're all throwing out our stats: 10 days, 9 hours uptime; 100MB free. I have no launcher redraws.
200+ free ram
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geoffcorey said:
342 free...
What apps do you have installed? And I'm betting that pie or lmt or whatever it is is going to end up being responsible for a lot it memory usage too.
Also, your rom could just be heavy on theory usage. The more tweaks/customizations/options, the memory used.
Edit: also, how many widgets do you have?
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So much free ram~Which ROM have you flashed?
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So much free ram~Which ROM have you flashed?
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Cm10.1. I have around 80 apps.
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Are you using tibu to restore apps. I had the same problem until I did a clean install and let market auto restore. Then reboot phone and you should be good to go.
Thanks for posts guys.
It had to be memory leak or something. After restart it is quite better but still. I track memory usage from that moment and I think I have just too many apps. Many of them start their services and not end it. Right now I have cleared recent apps and 170mb free.
According to Play Store I have 107 apps installed

[Q] increase RAM capacity

Hello frnds,
Is there any way to increase the available RAM on our phone, means we have got around 700mb available whereas its actual announced capacity is 1Gb,
In a latest Xperia, Xperia C, being the same 1GB, its showing around 900Mb..!
Don't ask why to bother about 200Mb, because it does matter a lot for me
Thanks in advance.. :good:
Try to use this app: RAM Expander
bluechip850 said:
Hello frnds,
Is there any way to increase the available RAM on our phone, means we have got around 700mb available whereas its actual announced capacity is 1Gb,
In a latest Xperia, Xperia C, being the same 1GB, its showing around 900Mb..!
Don't ask why to bother about 200Mb, because it does matter a lot for me
Thanks in advance.. :good:
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De-bloating is your solution to this issue!
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Dont do anything like ram expander. That works fine but decreses the life of sd card.
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You need to do some reading on RAM. Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
As for why you're "missing" some of it, blame it on Android and the GPU.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
De-bloating is your solution to this issue!
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but that does only free a little, and i have done that, but my point is regarding the actual available memory..
bluechip850 said:
but that does only free a little, and i have done that, but my point is regarding the actual available memory..
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Add some memory managment-init.d scripts then!
Anyone got a performance boost by using any of the swap creating apps out there? I tried a few apps but all of them eventually led to my device slow down and lag to no end!
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skyend said:
Anyone got a performance boost by using any of the swap creating apps out there? I tried a few apps but all of them eventually led to my device slow down and lag to no end!
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Try play aspart 8 .and than notice these aaps works
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hope
I hope to find a solution
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I hope to find a solution
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An solution is an kernel editing to resize ram.
its only solution.

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