i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
bongholio said:
i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
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Internal storage?
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Internal storage?
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I think he's talking about the RAM. Android manages memory different than OS X or Windows. Full is actually good. People are always going overboard with task killers trying to free up RAM. Android will free up RAM as necessary, so you really shouldn't ever have to worry about it. Unlike Windows when it gets full it puts memory into swap on the HDD slowing it down. Android will just quit the app, because you haven't used it in a while.
Just for reference I have 246MB available on CM7 with a fresh boot. After using it a few hours, I generally have about 90MB free on average.
Yes I know xp sucks arse.... unforturnetly I have to deal with it...
Anyways how would I go about getting some freed up ram or memory because I need to clear out some junk and rather not take a shot in the dark and end something dangerous. So any suggestions other tan get windows 7 will be greatly appreciated I know disk cleanup and defreagment are useful but is there anything else?
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Post on a windows xp forum...
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That's pretty messed up...
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I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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That's pretty messed up...
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Thank you I was going to say it but I hopedi wasn't in the wrong I was really just seeing if people in my backyard knew how to trim some trees so to speak
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tinslwc said:
I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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Do you think adding to the virtual memory heap would help I only have a gig of ram and 2 gb of vm so far wuld more be helpful? I have a lot of hard drive storage something like 160 or so, anyways ill look at the processes
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Biggoron said:
Do you think adding to the virtual memory heap would help I only have a gig of ram and 2 gb of vm so far wuld more be helpful? I have a lot of hard drive storage something like 160 or so, anyways ill look at the processes
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I am sure you already know this, but virtual memory is much, much slower than hardware RAM. That said, increasing virtual memory probably won't speed up your system, but will allow for additional multitasking (running more programs). Windows does a pretty good job at managing the virtual memory and keeping the more accessed information in real memory.
In short, I don't believe that increasing your virtual memory will make much of a difference. 2GB should be plenty. Additionally, if you are using a 32-bit version, Windows can not access more than 4GB of RAM (including video RAM, and hardware RAM) and that limitation may include virtual memory. Typically, 3GB is about all you can use with a 32-bit OS.
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Thanks I know a ton about my phone but hardly anything about my computer its odd. Anyways ill look into that msconfig and let you know what I come up with I was hoping for something similar to a task manager/memory cleaner here on android
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Biggoron said:
Thanks I know a ton about my phone but hardly anything about my computer its odd. Anyways ill look into that msconfig and let you know what I come up with I was hoping for something similar to a task manager/memory cleaner here on android
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The task manager... right click on start bar (not on a button or application) and start taskmanager. All applications have an associated process but not all processes have associated applications (at least applications with a GUI). From the process list, which will have what you want to get rid of, you will probably have to google each process name to determine what it is and how to get rid of it and if it is safe to do so. When I do a fresh XP install with anti virus and a minimal application set, I have somewhere around 40 total processes.
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The task manager... right click on start bar (not on a button or application) and start taskmanager. All applications have an associated process but not all processes have associated applications (at least applications with a GUI). From the process list, which will have what you want to get rid of, you will probably have to google each process name to determine what it is and how to get rid of it and if it is safe to do so. When I do a fresh XP install with anti virus and a minimal application set, I have somewhere around 40 total processes.
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Got about 52.... not bad I guess but is this bad?
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Got about 52.... not bad I guess but is this bad?
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That looks pretty good. One thing to remember is that "cached" physical memory is almost free memory. The operating system has files and other data that is cached in RAM for quick access but can easily be dumped to make room for new information.
So, now the question is, what is the problem/symptoms that you are trying to solve?
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I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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Msconfig is really meant as more of a trouble shooting tool. It's not proper to use it as a maintenance tool. If there's anything that you want to disable at startup you really ought to handle it in that particular programs options. Or consoder uninstalling tje program entirely.
Better than the stock windows defragment is a program called defraggler.
Also, you might try a windows XP forum. I think they would be better help.
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That looks pretty good. One thing to remember is that "cached" physical memory is almost free memory. The operating system has files and other data that is cached in RAM for quick access but can easily be dumped to make room for new information.
So, now the question is, what is the problem/symptoms that you are trying to solve?
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Well according to y'all its not my memory I guess I'm running the cpu more than it can handle its a guitar program in basic terms it turns my computer into an amplifier if you need to know its POD Farm 2 and when I try to add a "dual" which is like using two different amp setups it chops the sounds and won't work correctly and was thinking it was my memory not being able to free up the needed ram but I guess my lil 1.3ghz cpu isn't cutting it
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Xp has been very solid. Upgrade your hardware and do a clean install of xp. I'm running 7 on an older hp laptop and its been awesome.
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I'm not familiar with that program, but I would lean toward it not being your ram. You say that's a 1.3ghz. How many cores?
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Xp has been very solid. Upgrade your hardware and do a clean install of xp. I'm running 7 on an older hp laptop and its been awesome.
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There's 'natural' fragmentation of files that happens over time that a defrag'er can't always fix. A clean install is kind of like the ultimate defrag'er in that sense.
p.s. sorry about the double post.
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I'm not familiar with that program, but I would lean toward it not being your ram. You say that's a 1.3ghz. How many cores?
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Its a single I'm sure but ill let you when I find out...
I'm assuming its a single since it doesn't say dual or quad
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i've used this for a basis of streamlining the programs and processes that run on all my windows based pc's (i'm a sys admin for about 300+ pc's as well as my main gaming pc at home)
http://www.blackviper.com/category/guides/windows-xp/
The site used to have just a whole long list that you had to manually go and disable or set to manual yourself, now they've made it easier..
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If u look at some prior threads, he also helped u out!
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Since I had such good results last time I posted about a pc I was wondering something else.
My mother uses her pc for work and it requires certain system files that work like a network or a passage to her works servers. Something in system32...idk anyways... I was wondering if it were possible to image her pc and flash it onto the new pc I'm going to be getting. If not She really just needs xp on it and needs internet explorer 6 and her word 2003 it has a lot of auto corrections/ shortcuts in it. The system files can be put on it by her tech support. Basically she needs xp on her new pc with her internet explorer 6 and word. What would be the easiest way to do so?
I know I could find internet explorer 6 somewhere.
Also for the word I could transfer the auto corrections to the newest word 2010 but I hear it has to be done for each auto correction and she has upwards of 500 hundred.
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Guys.... I love multitasking and love memory available so ...
I was looking into ram manager app and suddenly came over this app named SWAPit.. It's supposed to expand ram by making a swap file. Any opinions? Or other suggestions?
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Did you dowload it??
Maybe you could give opinions so we all can learn...and not download if it's ****e
Since setcpu and juice defender fall into placebo apps category, me thinks this falls into the same category as solar charger.
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how to use it
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I don't think this will improve performance. Usual Linux based OS use a swap partition. You can use one in Android too, but no devs recommends it. So i think devs don't recommend to use swap, because it doesn't improve performance.
Yes, swap partition will "extend" the RAM but the truth is Android has its own mechanim to manage apps, so if you're low on RAM, instead of killing an old app you'll slow your system as it will use the swap partition (or file) which is much slower than RAM.
So, let Android do its job !
I will give it a try and report back.
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Anyone with the memory booster app. What's the percentages of used and unused ram?
With 2gigs of ram I don't need a memory manager app.
At most I end up using maybe 1gig.
I used one before I upgraded from the Moment.
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Hostage XII said:
With 2gigs of ram I don't need a memory manager app.
At most I end up using maybe 1gig.
I used one before I upgraded from the Moment.
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I have one gig .
How much ram is being used is the question then.
I'm pretty sure memory booster apps are unneeded. Android already has its own built it task manager - Low priority apps will be removed from RAM after all the RAM is used.
If memory booster apps just kill every app, it's seems kind of pointless since having multiple apps open is the point of RAM. Also, unused RAM is useless RAM so it really doesn't matter how much unused RAM you have.
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I have one gig .
How much ram is being used is the question then.
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Thats sh..ty. im sorry guy. The 2gigs is worth not having quad core exynos processor. More cores doesn't always mean better
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I'm pretty sure memory booster apps are unneeded. Android already has its own built it task manager - Low priority apps will be removed from RAM after all the RAM is used.
If memory booster apps just kill every app, it's seems kind of pointless since having multiple apps open is the point of RAM. Also, unused RAM is useless RAM so it really doesn't matter how much unused RAM you have.
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I understand that. I'm not using it to kill apps. Just to check my memory use because it use percentages.
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I understand that. I'm not using it to kill apps. Just to check my memory use because it use percentages.
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Ah, ok. I don't really know what a memory booster app does so it's partially my fault for not looking it up first.
Just long press the home button and choose task manager all the info you want should be there.
When I reboot and then immediately kill all apps, I have 1.3gb......but I usually have a little over 1gb on average.
I'm running AOKP build 5 and I was wondering what's the best way to clear up some ram on my phone, make it run faster. I close apps when I'm not using it and I'm on stock kernel...maybe different kernel....? Any advice would be nice. Thanks in advance.
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The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.
fast reboot is a nice app to use. its kinda like a reboot but without rebooting. it frees up ram. android might free up ram on its own when needed, but it does not do a good enough job, no matter what other people say. fmr memory cleaner is also a nice app to use.
fast reboot https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en
fmr memory cleaner https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fantasmosoft.free_memory_recover&feature
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The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.
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What he said.
sshede said:
The topics don't correlate. When Android needs more RAM, it'll close applications automatically - that being said, your speed issue isn't RAM related.
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Pretty much said it all. That said unused ram isn't going to make your phone faster. If anything having more apps cached in the ram will. Unused ram is wasted ram Imo.
Thanks for the clarification guys
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