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[Q] Mugen Battery strangeness...

This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....

i think you need to charge it for 12 hours first.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Thanks,you were right! An overnight charge of around 12 hours did it.This is the first phone battery I had to do that with to get them to just work at all.Seems to work just fine now Again,thank you!

Let us know how long the battery is lasting once you get a few cycles please!

Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.

Will do,just need a few days to do it,its lasting a looooong time!

XPLANE9 said:
Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
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NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.

I am having a similar issue with a battery that I ordered off of ebay. It's 3500mah.
When I plug it in it will turn off and get stuck in a boot loop on the vibrant screen, but if it is off then it won't turn on at all when plugged in. It has been plugged in for 9 hours so far and it doesn't even show the charging animation or anything.
Normal? Or is the battery defective?
Thanks.

Ok. After charging it overnight and still nothing, I'm going to assume its broken. Thanks.

dragon2knight said:
This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
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Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?

it fits good...
lincoln131 said:
Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
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...and it does get a bit bulky,weight goes up to about double the amount,but it is so worth it,and then some!!I went from 6 hours on the stock battery to over 18 with the Mugen,and thats with heavy use(full brightness/live wallpaper,etc.).If you dont have access to a charger outside your home,this is a great buy,and you know the quality is there,unlike the uncertainty of the cheep chinese ones.Highly recommended!

The OS needs to learn your new battery. Just takes time and usage.
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just bought 3000 mah
just bought one from accessory geeks, it came 70% charged, and am updating battery stats after a full charge, during stat recalibration, power is iffy. will update, and am considering mugen. any suggestions?

I am not so sure about your information
Mannymal said:
NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
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I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby

roby5167 said:
I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
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No controversies at all. Your info from the link is outright wrong.
Mannymal is correct on this one.

I also have this battery. By the time I got it, Team Whiskeys roms had gotten good enough to where I didn't need an extended battery for day to day use (stock battery usually has 30-40% when i go to bed), but I do use it when I travel, so I don't have to worry about using it like crazy. The battery lasts a long time, probably like 2 or 3 days if I actually tried to drain it, at least. And it's definitely adds bulk, but it's reasonably well made and feels sturdy.
My only complaint is that I sometimes cover the speaker with my finger when I want to silence it real quick, and it doesn't work with this because the cover's so far from the speaker. But that's just my weird thing.
Also, yeah, don't kill your battery. No es bueno.

What is this? How do I read?
What is this? How do I read?

I use a seido innocell battery and it works great after a few over night charges. I get about 8 hours average of talk time. The battery is pretty small compared to the one accessory greeks sell. Even though the ah battery ia twenty five dollars, that is like the entry level name brand battery, it will lady you a while longer than the cheap ones on ebay, but I don't knower about the ones on ebay although I do know about the one ag sells skies down charging after about 45 percent charging. The seido is charging pretty fast for me and is half the price of a mugen, the next battery I'm going to buy will be the nugent, not because I need it, just
Cause I want to enjoy it.
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All batteries are so used it. . . .
All batteries are so used it. . . .

Which is a good or recommended battery for wildfire S

Hi Folks,
I recently purchased a HTC Wildfire S. I am quite disappointed by the battery performance. The dialer and android system always shows 49 % usage. Is it a bug in GB or is this normal behavior ?
I feel my battery drains out very fast in a day. I usually do a 20-30 mins of call/day. About 10-20 Mb of internet data via 2G. But at the end of the day around 8-8.30 PM my battery is almost at 25-30% or sometimes less than that. I have disabled all the vibrating notifications. Wi-Fi and bluetooth OFF, I have installed juice defender which shuts the data off when the phone is idle. Though there is some improvement after this, i still feel the battery is going down.
When googled about this, everyone had almost the same complaint. And the only suggestion was to have an extra 1500 or 1900 mAh battery. Now which is the recommended battery without making any change to the hardware etc
coz i see lot of them taking a 3500 mAh battery with extra cover and changing the contacts and all. I dont want to do all those but just to improve my battery performance. Can you help me out ?

I use this battery :
http://www.batterychampion.fr/produ...rtmentProductId/76703263/shopGroupId/95658473
I can use my device almost during 3 days without any charge : calls, sms, internet and games.

Its very large. I wanted a small phone...

The 1500mAh Replacement Battery For HTC HD7 fits the Wildfire S and gives you an approximate 20-30% boost in battery capacity.

Edit: Nvm, never bought a new battery lol

and what about 1900? any suggestion?
and btw, 1500 and 1900 battery has same sizes as the original? only the 2200 and 3500 needs a new back cover ,right?

the only extended battery worth getting is the Cameron Sino 2200mah version. Yes, it does make you phone quite a bit thicker...but it's the only one i've found that does what it's supposed to do.
I tried first a 3500mah version, but after a couple of weeks it lost it's ability to hold charge almost completely, so it was actually worse than the stock battery.
Next was the eCell 2350mah version (Gold), this didn't last much longer than the stock battery either, although it did give a litte extra, but no where near the 2x capacity of the stock, as it should have been. (i think i got like an extra hour or two oout of it)
and finally....the CS 2200mah version.....where I usually get around 8 hours tops on the stock battery (i leave things syncing every hour, quite alot of texts every day, a fair bit of internt use too), I can now use my phone for 2 full days straight, and by night-time on the second day it's finally down to around 10-15% battery left, so go mad playing games for an hour or two to really run it down to nothing, then leave it on charge over-night.
I would highly reccommend this battery, it's the only one you'll ever need, and you can actually make use of the "smart" features of your phone....I can actually use programs that need GPS without having to worry if my battery will die, leaving me stranded
it only costs around £10 on ebay.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150696338487
the thickness is something you get used to, and some people even find it a bit more comfortable to hold....so it's not necessarily a bad thing.

A review of the Cameron Sino.
It comes as advertised.

SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Thanks a lot for the info, I'll be buying it soon.
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From my personal experiences the HD7 replacement doesn't give that boost. Maybe I got a weak unit... Soon I will order another one just to make sure.
I suggest you check this thread for comparisons between different batteries and results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419930
On page 3 of that thread I show my tests and comparisons of:
HTC Stock 1230mAh
HD7 1500mAh replacement
ECell Gold 2430mAh
Thanks to d33ps1x for his great public service testing several batteries and showing us what we can expect from them. If he didn't open that thread (and others) I probably wouldn't have shared my results.
I suggest everybody take a good luck before spending their cash.

I've recently bought the 3500mah battery with black cover at FocalPrice for 6€ shipping included.
When I get the order I'll post my results.

DanHidalgo said:
I've recently bought the 3500mah battery with black cover at FocalPrice for 6€ shipping included.
When I get the order I'll post my results.
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3500... i rly hope it will be that much, but it will more likely be 1700 to 2000 MAX

I thought that too but a friend bought it and told me that his phone stays on for a least 2 days without charging it.
When it arrives my home I'll post my results with pics of the difference.
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DanHidalgo said:
I thought that too but a friend bought it and told me that his phone stays on for a least 2 days without charging it.
When it arrives my home I'll post my results with pics of the difference.
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okay, we expect your review .. .

I got the Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh about a week ago.
I cant give an accurate review of the battery but I've found that its well worth the extra size for the extended life, i get a couple of days out of it now.
Its cheap as well and now I have a spare battery so if I know i'm gonna be away from a charger I can take the original battery with me.

greavous420 said:
I got the Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh about a week ago.
I cant give an accurate review of the battery but I've found that its well worth the extra size for the extended life, i get a couple of days out of it now.
Its cheap as well and now I have a spare battery so if I know i'm gonna be away from a charger I can take the original battery with me.
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Like other people have seen (d33ps1x for example), the Cameron Sino 2200 mAh is the best bang for the buck. Even if it makes your phone "fat" it is a real power improvement.
The ECell Gold 2430mAh has barely 1600mAh inside so it's obviously false advertising when they say that they use Li-Polymer. I have one and ordered the second unit because even if it doesn't correspond to what's promised, it still gives a nice boost comparing to stock.
I'm also curious how different the two batteries can be. The second one will arrive this week. I will prepare it and test it as soon as I get it in the mail.
All those 1500mAh you can find on eBay are only marginal improvement when comparing to the stock battery. If they can provide 1300-1350mAh then you are a very lucky owner.
There are some amazing batteries out there, but they are too expensive.
I'm talking about Mugen Power Batteries:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/
I had one of their batteries on my HTC Desire and it was something out of other world. If you follow their instructions (that come with the battery) you won't regret buying one. Right now the Wildfire S 1500 mAh is out of stock and will be ready for shipment on the 17th February. This means they're being produced now and who buys them will get brand new batteries, that haven't stayed for months in a warehouse. If they were cheaper I would definitely order one. If Mugen Power announces 1500mAh, they're definitely inside.

I want to buy the Cameron sino 2200 may, but will it fit a metro pcs wildfire s???

I get one or two days? I think that's good? It's longer when wifi is off.

id05dav said:
I want to buy the Cameron sino 2200 may, but will it fit a metro pcs wildfire s???
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The battery will fit, but the cover will not.

chicle_11 said:
The battery will fit, but the cover will not.
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I got the battery, it fits, but it's BIG! I got a soft silicone case and it works. It stretches and fits fine, it protects the phone without a back cover.
The battery is a definite improvement over the original.

Battery replacement - experience so far

After becoming increasingly frustrated by poor battery performance, I decided to take the plunge and order a new battery from Amazon (UK) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00SHVIV96?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
After previously breaking the screen and damaging the USB socket / circuit board which required a new screen assembly+new ribbon cable the battery replacement was incredibly easy in comparison and took under 5 minutes.
The old battery had the date of 2013, October 24th, the new one date code 2015, February 14
With moderate usage i was getting about 12 hours battery with screen on time of around 1 hr 30 ( GSam battery monitor ) with heavy usage this was significantly less.
with light usage I was returning from Work with about 40% left, which then took around 45 minutes to fully charge back again to 100% using a wireless charger.
Also recently the battery wasn't even charging on the official charger, instead it would drop about 2% per hour and charge very slowly with Bluetooth/wifi etc switched off.
The New battery came with 45% charge and its been on charge now for over an hour ( same as the old battery) and its only increased by 20% so it appears to be taking much longer to charge.

Mine will be delivered tomorrow morning. I have big hopes because i am also getting poor battery with 2h of SOT . Will report my experience

One of the things I know about Lithium batteries is that when they start to loose capacity they will charge quick - but also drain quick.
so far the charging appears to be taking forever - gained about 12% in the last hour. There are a lot of people who want fast charging however at the moment if slow charging=better battery then all the better.
One of the things ive missed with the nexus 5 is a replaceable battery ( that is one that you can swap while away - no tools required) and in place of that Ive been using a portable power pack with QI built in ( Rav power ) thats about the same size as the nexus 5, the nexus 5 in a case+the rav power QI charger both fit in a pocket and the nexus will charge from the QI charger whilst both are in a pocket.

Day 1 of usage, and im currently showing 15-20% extra charge remaining usually i would be at 40% ( give or take 5%) today at the same time i was at 63%

I notice my Nexus 5's battery charges rather quick. And been losing power fast as well. Maybe a new battery.

So, is it so hard to replace my battery?
Because somehow my phone is heat so quickly (even on lightly use like chatting and 9gagging)
And also, my phone is draining so fast (after i plug out, it takes under 5 minutes to go from 100 to 99)

AndreIrawan97 said:
So, is it so hard to replace my battery?
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So long as you have the right tools for the job, it's actually fairly easy going - IFixIt has a pretty handy guide for it.

Its actualy easier than the giude makes it look - if you dont have the tools then you can buy repair kits
the only tricky parts may the the bottom of the back cover where there may be a small amount of adhesive, and getting the old battery out - again as a result of a small amount of adhesive.
I would advise that you have something soft to place your nexus down on so you dont scratch the screen, something to keep the little screws in so they dont get lost, and a flat/clear area.
with a little bit of thought the nexus 5 could have been designed with a user replaceable battery .
As for usage not much to report yet, I've re-set Gsam battery ( only realised that it need to be re-set) and its currently reporting screen on of 2hr 21 battery life of 8hr 43 although this has only just been re-set so it may change.

Is there a recommended seller at amazon.com?
Don't want to be scammed.

ovalfastlx said:
I notice my Nexus 5's battery charges rather quick. And been losing power fast as well. Maybe a new battery.
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Use a slow charger overnight or leave on the charge via computer USB port for whole night. Will help if you are doing fast charge all the time.

Changed mine couple days ago, i notice an increase in battery life compared to what i had before so i am happy. But i had difficulty taking out the old battery from the chassis, it was glued really fri*king hard. I hate adhesive

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Changed mine couple days ago, i notice an increase in battery life compared to what i had before so i am happy. But i had difficulty taking out the old battery from the chassis, it was glued really fri*king hard. I hate adhesive
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yeah i remember when i replaced my cracked screen some months ago, removing the battery was the hardest part because of the adhesive. not that it was hard to get out but i had to be gentle not to damage the battery. any way our device has great repairability comparing to other devices which can be a nightmare. now i'm waiting for this battery to arrive and this time ti will not be difficult to remove since i have done it once. i hope this battery turns out good, i've heard good reviews of it even though it's not the default lg battery and has slightly more capacity.

What is the date of the new batteries is everyone buying ? Someone is selling me a one with February 2014 date, it is new , but I think it is too old. What do you think ? My phone has one made I think in November 2013 (first batch n5).

Where are you guys getting the batteries? I'm having trouble trusting these sellers.
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I purchased my battery from a company called ITSTEK via amazon, the same place where i purchased my replacement screen from.
The first screen was purchased from another seller, packed in bubble wrap and had been taken from another nexus 5 ( had damage marks where it had been removed)
the screen from ITSTEK was inside a sealed anti static bag with LG markings and Korean/Chinese (?) writing on.
As for battery life GSAM is now reporting battery life 15hrs 22 min ( was 12hours
Screen on 2hr 10 ( was 1hr 30)
while that may not sound great each time i check the app the figures are going up time goes by.

peikojose said:
What is the date of the new batteries is everyone buying ? Someone is selling me a one with February 2014 date, it is new , but I think it is too old. What do you think ? My phone has one made I think in November 2013 (first batch n5).
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If it's been kept cool and 60%charged should be OK. I'd rather a genuine one like that than a new copy off ebay
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ichundu said:
yeah i remember when i replaced my cracked screen some months ago, removing the battery was the hardest part because of the adhesive. Not that it was hard to get out but i had to be gentle not to damage the battery. Any way our device has great repairability comparing to other devices which can be a nightmare. Now i'm waiting for this battery to arrive and this time ti will not be difficult to remove since i have done it once. I hope this battery turns out good, i've heard good reviews of it even though it's not the default lg battery and has slightly more capacity.
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a hundred and fifty usd!!!!!!
BTW anyone who has not taken theirs out its easier to do if the phone is very warm. Use plastic tools.
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a hundred and fifty usd!!!!!!
BTW anyone who has not taken theirs out its easier to do if the phone is very warm. Use plastic tools.
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They sold out at the moment that's the reason. when i contacted the seller he said their getting new delivery at the end of may and the price will be normal again.

Thx I'll get one too, for the extra MA. Least you know what you are getting with that make. I've changed mine but bigger is better.
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Thx I'll get one too, for the extra MA. Least you know what you are getting with that make. I've changed mine but bigger is better.
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Well i have received my polarcell battery and been using it for 3 days now. I have written my impressions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60795458

Yet another topic about battery replacement...

Yup..that's it.
About 2/3 weeks ago i received a new battery to replace the old one on my nexus 5, that was only giving me about 2h of SOT. The battery is a standard 2300mA, brought on ebay. Right after the installation, the doubts started: the new battery does not have the wireless charging option. That was not said anywhere on the description, so the seller got a neutral feedback. Now, after some time, i come to the conclusion that the battery is as good as the old one: it only lasts for about 2h of SOT. So probably it's a fake battery...
So today i found ou this one: https://www.batteryupgrade.com/shop...rtmentProductId/61381272/shopGroupId/86483823
it says it is 2500mAh. Well, for the price it should be. Anyone care to comment if it is worth try it and spend the money on it or should i consider an original one from lgspares?
Regards.

First things first. Wireless charging is totally irrelavant with what battery you have inside. The coil is attached to the back plate, not the battery. If it is not charging wirelessly check your installation.
Secondly, ebay+batteries = fake. Also, anything more than 2300mAh = fake. These are the two steps you have to do to check if a battery is genuine:
a) Check the battery temp. If it always says 29c, then it is fake.
b) If it DOESN'T have LG printed on the back (or has sth else like Samsung TSDI), then it is fake.
Spareslg used to carry original batteries and I bought one myself about 1,5 years ago. I don't know if this is still the case now, although I don't see why they would change now. So your best bet would be them.

Hi.
Thanks for your input. However the wireless charging is on the battery itself. I did chech this by placing the older battery on top of my wireless charger and saw the ligthing charging indicador turn on.
What's on the back cover is the coil for the NFC.
As for the current battery, when i did found out that about the 29C it really is happening (with slight variations), even thought the battery says LG.
I've sent an e-mail to the website selling this new one. Let's see what they answer.
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No it is not. The coil is on the back cover. You probably didn't snap the center clip in place (the one above the S), so there is no contact with the leads.
I didn't quite catch what you mean with the battery.

He means the battery temperature is 29 (fake) even if the LG words are written in it.

Topic looks a bit rezzed but...
I got this battery http://www.ebay.com/itm/2500mah-3-8...991327?hash=item4afad7431f:g:LIMAAOSwZ8ZW3lAJ
On my second charge I got 4h55m SOT, but the average from charge #1 and #3 is about 4h10m.
Using NitrogenOS + Nitrogen Kernel (interactive, power saving, -5000uv)

I bought this battery www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NCJMQXK/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8. It is OEM brand new. Easily gives me a full day on one charge with light usage. I can get around 4 hours of non stop gaming. It seams better than the original battery that cane with my phone. All for $9 usd shipped! Shipping was pretty fast too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272379416470 OEM N5 battery with manufacture date = december 2015, latest I can find
I'm going to be doing the mod for the 3k mAh battery,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401179982190 - June 2016, latest I can find.
Still waiting for the 3k mAh battery for the LG G2 to arrive, then I'll do the mod and update with results.

paradoxiumwind said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272379416470 OEM N5 battery with manufacture date = december 2015, latest I can find
I'm going to be doing the mod for the 3k mAh battery,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401179982190 - June 2016, latest I can find.
Still waiting for the 3k mAh battery for the LG G2 to arrive, then I'll do the mod and update with results.
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I did the mod with a spare G2 battery I got from a relative, but I don't think it really charged beyond 2300mah. The charging times were roughly the same as well as the SOT.
So in my opinion it is just a placebo.

island3r said:
I did the mod with a spare G2 battery I got from a relative, but I don't think it really charged beyond 2300mah. The charging times were roughly the same as well as the SOT.
So in my opinion it is just a placebo.
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Did you calibrate the battery? That would need to be done for the phone to create a new file for the battery to detect the increase in size.

Well i replaced my Nexus 5s bad 2300 mah battery with LG G2s Genuine new 3000 mah battery.
Only made 1 charge/discharge cycle. I played for 1 h 10 m not demanding game, Used chrome for 1 h 37 m, Used 4G Network for 30 m, Talked 20 m (playd 4-5 games for 4-5 minutes, some youtube, settings and this kind of staff)and it gave me 5 h SOT! And this with Custom rom Android 7 nitrogen (which is buggy!!!!) After 2-3 cycles of my new batter, stable ROM without issues and Voltage and frequency tweaks i think it will give me 6 h 30 m SOT. Which is fantastic for Nexus 5!

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Well i replaced my Nexus 5s bad 2300 mah battery with LG G2s Genuine new 3000 mah battery.
Only made 1 charge/discharge cycle. I played for 1 h 10 m not demanding game, Used chrome for 1 h 37 m, Used 4G Network for 30 m, Talked 20 m (playd 4-5 games for 4-5 minutes, some youtube, settings and this kind of staff)and it gave me 5 h SOT! And this with Custom rom Android 7 nitrogen (which is buggy!!!!) After 2-3 cycles of my new batter, stable ROM without issues and Voltage and frequency tweaks i think it will give me 6 h 30 m SOT. Which is fantastic for Nexus 5!
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Is it that easy to mod the G2's battery to fit on N5?

matusala said:
Well i replaced my Nexus 5s bad 2300 mah battery with LG G2s Genuine new 3000 mah battery.
Only made 1 charge/discharge cycle. I played for 1 h 10 m not demanding game, Used chrome for 1 h 37 m, Used 4G Network for 30 m, Talked 20 m (playd 4-5 games for 4-5 minutes, some youtube, settings and this kind of staff)and it gave me 5 h SOT! And this with Custom rom Android 7 nitrogen (which is buggy!!!!) After 2-3 cycles of my new batter, stable ROM without issues and Voltage and frequency tweaks i think it will give me 6 h 30 m SOT. Which is fantastic for Nexus 5!
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is it possible for you to post a tutorial on the lg g2 battery mod for the nexus 5?

matusala said:
Well i replaced my Nexus 5s bad 2300 mah battery with LG G2s Genuine new 3000 mah battery.
Only made 1 charge/discharge cycle. I played for 1 h 10 m not demanding game, Used chrome for 1 h 37 m, Used 4G Network for 30 m, Talked 20 m (playd 4-5 games for 4-5 minutes, some youtube, settings and this kind of staff)and it gave me 5 h SOT! And this with Custom rom Android 7 nitrogen (which is buggy!!!!) After 2-3 cycles of my new batter, stable ROM without issues and Voltage and frequency tweaks i think it will give me 6 h 30 m SOT. Which is fantastic for Nexus 5!
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I really thinking about mod G2 battery into my Nexus 5.
I tried to order Genuine battery from the links that other people recommended.
Not surprisingly, one Amazon seller send me fake one.
Another one send looks like genuine but battery is manufactured in 2013 which is older than my original battery and, there are bunch of unknown black chemicals outside of the battery that I ordered.
Very tired to buy a genuine battery for Nexus 5. Seems like more easy to mod to install G2.

seungbaekm said:
I really thinking about mod G2 battery into my Nexus 5.
I tried to order Genuine battery from the links that other people recommended.
Not surprisingly, one Amazon seller send me fake one.
Another one send looks like genuine but battery is manufactured in 2013 which is older than my original battery and, there are bunch of unknown black chemicals outside of the battery that I ordered.
Very tired to buy a genuine battery for Nexus 5. Seems like more easy to mod to install G2.
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The one that I ordered is from 2013 but is a brand new unused battery. It is definetelt OEM as I have taken it apart. Before doing so I checked the temperature of the battery as wekk and it checks out there as well. I know they stopped manufacturing these batteries but not sure when. I personally would not be worried about the date of the battery but more so making sure it is OEM.

Well, back in September I bought a 'genuine LG' BL-T9 with tools from a Chinese seller on ebay for $9.
I literally went over it with a magnifying glass and it appears genuine. All the markings are correct, the temp varies, and the build quality is the same as the original.
In fact, the only way I could tell the 2 apart was the sticky residue on the back of the original and the mfg date (11/26/2013 & 07/08/2016).
I took a chance on getting a fake, and if I did it turned out to be a good fake, as SOT went from under 2hrs to slightly over 4 and standby time is almost 5 days compared to the 2.5 or so from the original.
I gambled the $9 and unless my Nexus does a Note 7, I did good.
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The one that I ordered is from 2013 but is a brand new unused battery. It is definetelt OEM as I have taken it apart. Before doing so I checked the temperature of the battery as wekk and it checks out there as well. I know they stopped manufacturing these batteries but not sure when. I personally would not be worried about the date of the battery but more so making sure it is OEM.
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Manufacturing date is important with Li-polymer batteries.
A 3-year-old unused battery will not last as long as a 3-month-old unused battery.
The 'new' 2013 battery may last longer than the used one in the phone, but it won't last as long as a 2015 battery would.
I'd sooner buy a decent generic 2015-2016 battery than a genuine LG battery made in 2013.

glocksman said:
Well, back in September I bought a 'genuine LG' BL-T9 with tools from a Chinese seller on ebay for $9.
I literally went over it with a magnifying glass and it appears genuine. All the markings are correct, the temp varies, and the build quality is the same as the original.
In fact, the only way I could tell the 2 apart was the sticky residue on the back of the original and the mfg date (11/26/2013 & 07/08/2016).
I took a chance on getting a fake, and if I did it turned out to be a good fake, as SOT went from under 2hrs to slightly over 4 and standby time is almost 5 days compared to the 2.5 or so from the original.
I gambled the $9 and unless my Nexus does a Note 7, I did good.
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Manufacturing date is important with Li-polymer batteries.
A 3-year-old unused battery will not last as long as a 3-month-old unused battery.
The 'new' 2013 battery may last longer than the used one in the phone, but it won't last as long as a 2015 battery would.
I'd sooner buy a decent generic 2015-2016 battery than a genuine LG battery made in 2013.
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I have not had a single problem with mine. I play a lot of games on my phone and I have no problem getting between 4 to 6 hours of SOT with the battery that I purchased from Amazon. After reading posts online my SOT is what other people are getting with their genuine batteries as well. So I don't see it degrading that much. Of it did it was a very tiny amount which I am fine with for what it cost. I believe it was like $8 shipped. I posted a link to it earlier in this thread or the other battery thread not sure which. I have also been using the battery for around 2 months now maybe s little longer with no degrade in SOT.

I’ve bought a new battery from AliExpress. Date on the battery is June 2016 (I assume it’s manufacturing date).
Before I replace the battery, I want to test the current/original battery. Any suggestion which App I can use?
It would be great if there an app that keeps screen on from 100% charge and records how long screen was on before battery died. Once I have the result, I can run the same app after (/if I manage to) change the battery.
Any suggestion/advice will be highly appreciated.
Thanks guys,
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app

ATZ-007 said:
I’ve bought a new battery from AliExpress. Date on the battery is June 2016 (I assume it’s manufacturing date).
Before I replace the battery, I want to test the current/original battery. Any suggestion which App I can use?
It would be great if there an app that keeps screen on from 100% charge and records how long screen was on before battery died. Once I have the result, I can run the same app after (/if I manage to) change the battery.
Any suggestion/advice will be highly appreciated.
Thanks guys,
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Ampere is the app I use for measuring current & load.
IIRC, it doesn't keep a logfile, but it does help when it comes to determining output & charging current.
As for your other question, I really don't know which app to use, but if you do a search of the entirety of XDA, someone's probably coded one.
Though I personally wouldn't use such an app because the N5 gets pretty warm under heavy use anyway, and I'd rather not have it burst into flame unattended.
Also, the battery I posted earlier about here is still going strong.
It was either a genuine LG battery or a really good counterfeit.

Hi:
I ended up by buying an original battery from spares LG. So far, i'm very happy with the performance: i'm getting between 2h30m and 3h00 SOT, with 4G, wi-fi and Bluetooth allays on.

HTC 10 - Replacement Battery - Have you done it?

Does anyone have any direct experience (not hearsay) or a link to anyone who has actually done actual testing on any replacement batteries.
Ideally, something like what Richard Lloyd has done on youtube to test 18650 batteries.
*** As we can use the google machine, please refrain from links saying "this battery sucks" or "this is the best ever!". Reviews on amazon, ebay, aliexpress and others can be bought for pennies.
It would be great to see someone doing math and using electrical measurements, not what an app reports. ***
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So, two-ish years later and my unlocked HTC 10's battery is starting to go.
I'm using the latest build of Leedroid's rom and no, it is not the rom.
I have replaced batteries in the past and feel like I should give it a shot even though HTC made it a b*tch to change.
Why I'm asking: I changed the battery on a past phone and it worked pretty well for 6-ish months. Then, it exploded and cracked the lcd and g glass screen.
So, trying to avoid that.
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Facts (as I understand them):
We cannot get a real / genuine HTC 10 battery.
HTC does not sell them.
Anything labeled as such is most likely a Chinese fraud or an actual HTC 10 battery that failed their internal inspection process.
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Does anyone have any experience with the replacement batteries that are for sale on Aliexpress?
Part number: B2PS6100
Brands (stickers?):
Cameron Sino 3000mAh
HSABAT 4300mAh
Ciszean 3000mAh
LOSONCOER 4300mAh
XINBONG 4000mAh
Dxqioo 3000mah
etc....
What buyer did you get your best / working battery from? Details please!
Has anyone ever gotten a reading of more than 3000mah that lasts?
I've read on oneplus forums that many replacement batteries often only provide ~80% of the real battery when new and fully charged (mAh).
Many have concluded that batteries that fail their inspection process are not properly recycled and are being re-branded and sold under new names / stickers.
Comments welcome, hopefully my caveats at the beginning didn't scare off everyone.
Thanks in advance!

Mine is also 18 months old and looking for some alternatives . Hope somebody gonna help us.

I've done mine got it from repairbase.co.uk but haven't done any tests on it other than what an app called acubattery which estimates it's capacity as 2868. I've never fully charged it got it set to only go to 75% in the hope that it'll last longer than the original.
Ref the actual swap it wasn't that bad,
I heated the screen on a microwaved wheat bag
used some suction cup pliers to lift the screen
Cut the glue with a guitar pick
Made a simple diagram on a bit of cardboard to stick the screws in.
I took all the tape off completely stored on a bit of greaseproof paper and was really careful with the screen ribbon.

I replaced my own battery.
I replaced my own battery. I bought it off of ebay from a seller in the US. My phone used to have random boot loops now that no longer happens.
It was difficult. Heating the display and pulling off is a problem. I actually broke my display and severed my ribbon cable for the sim. I replaced those parts and battery change was successful. Now the only issue is the adhesive is not sticking that great. Nothing that affects anything. I just see how the screen slightly gives just a little bit. I do not recommend the double stick tape. Get the special glue!!! Something with a 7000 in the name.
I will be reheating a gluing it in the future. I dread working on this phone. Although I am not a professional I think I did a pretty good job. Other phones are much easier to repair.
I DID NOT notice a super improvement in battery life. My new battery was now back to "Ok" battery life instead of terrible no more bootloops at 20% or when camera is open. There is a problem with the HTC 10 with the cpu using to much, along with wakelocks and wifi. I really wish HTC would address these issues.
I installed LEEDROID have not switched kernal yet. I have getting over 4hours and 30 minutes of on screen time. If I change the kernel and throttle the cpu I may be able to get a little more. The goal is 5 hours.
I am NOT an EXPERT. I am a smart individual through trial and error that can figure many things out. I like to get the most out of my technology I'm not ready to get a new phone. My phone is primarily used for Audiobooks, Youtube, web browsing, texting.

i wanted to replace my battery... but after watching this video i've lost all my motivation ^^
as soon as my battery starts to crash at low percentage i'll take another look at it ^^
Anything labeled as such is most likely a Chinese fraud or an actual HTC 10 battery that failed their internal inspection process.
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Oh.... and i always tought these batteries are from the same manufacturer as the original one but somehow stolen/bought directly at the manufacturing site and sold by private persons.
It is really hard to distinguish a real battery from a fake...
But to know if your battery is full/new or not the only way is an external discharge test.
I've tought about buying one of these https://www.ebay.ch/itm/ZB2L3-Batte...560532?hash=item25e6002a94:g:ag4AAOSwmnFZ4hxs
But it says 3A ... which is a bit much for this poor phone battery.

Having a functioning temperature sensor is critical to the stability and safety of the battery. If you've replaced your battery, use an app like Accubattery to verify the following: an existing thermistor will read a fluctuation in temps anywhere from 20-50C based on usage and ambient heat. Most (all?) of the batteries sold online have only a resistor which will send various inaccurate readings to the phone, typically 25C while charging, and a jump to 35-38C while unplugged (if the plugging/unplugging makes no sudden difference, try putting your phone in the freezer, or going between idle and heavy use to test).
If your replacement battery has an accurate temp sensor, please add to the discussion by telling us where you purchased it.

i bought HSABAT 4300mAh from aliexpress,i replaced the battery .will share with you guys here the results

Shame it's so much effort to change battery my wifes phone always turns off at around 21% now and she doesn't like any of the newer phones most are too big this htc 10 was the max she would go to.

My guess is that a lot of people are going to try in the coming 2-6 months as their battery starts to weaken.
Phone is great. Processor is fast enough and camera is great.
My hope is that we can gather real info and start to get good intel on these battery brands (?).
I don't think changing the battery is particularly easy, but it can be done. (See YouTube)
That being said, I don't want to have to do it more than once.
I hope more people chime in, because I guess many have already and many more will be doing it.
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Shame it's so much effort to change battery my wifes phone always turns off at around 21% now and she doesn't like any of the newer phones most are too big this htc 10 was the max she would go to.
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alicine said:
i bought HSABAT 4300mAh from aliexpress,i replaced the battery .will share with you guys here the results
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I am planning to buy the same..... hope you have a positive feedback about it..

Bareq said:
I am planning to buy the same..... hope you have a positive feedback about it..
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let me finish first tests , i will share results asap.im planning to do coming weekend.

Hi there, finally I got possibility to check battery performance which I bought from aliexpress.when I compare it with my brothers 2 years old HTC 10 ,battery is better than his phone. I did HTC battery test.mine was 92% but his was 80% .
I didn't experienced yet daily use. I will update u.

alicine said:
Hi there, finally I got possibility to check battery performance which I bought from aliexpress.when I compare it with my brothers 2 years old HTC 10 ,battery is better than his phone. I did HTC battery test.mine was 92% but his was 80% .
I didn't experienced yet daily use. I will update u.
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yo dawg, any news? i'm very eager to read it.
peace

Hey @alicine. I'm really curious about the battery and want to buy it. I have some questions and would really appreciate if you could answer them.
1) Has it exploded yet?
2) Is it the advertised 4300 mAh capasity?
3) How did you make it fit inside the shell? Is it the same dimensions as the 3000 mAh ones?
4) How long does it take to charge & does it still support fast charging?
5) How many hours of SoT are you getting now? (which ROM you're in that would help too)
Thanks in advance.

Tips from experience on M7
One thing about lithion batteries . . . they lose a bit of capacity just sitting on the shelf as matter of simple, natural deterioration. So to a certain extent, the newer the better.
When I replaced the battery on my HTC One M7 it was a similar challenge. My approach to buying a battery was to look closely at the photos and see what the date was on the battery for sale as it should be printed on it. (Some of the sellers don't even know that.) I tried to get the most plausibly recently made battery, within reason. By that I mean, I was concerned that for an older phone there might not be any batteries recently manufactured for it, so a very recently dated battery might be fraudulently remarked/re-dated. If I wasn't sure I queried the seller to find out if they knew what the battery's date was.
I'm not sure my theory is correct about which date battery to shoot for, but I'm still going with that line of thinking

Hi, what about the battery performance with daily use?

@numpaque
I'm not sure what the question is there - batteries lose charge as you use them, then need recharging.
What do you want to know again ?

sgokan03 said:
Hey @alicine. I'm really curious about the battery and want to buy it. I have some questions and would really appreciate if you could answer them.
1) Has it exploded yet?
2) Is it the advertised 4300 mAh capasity?
3) How did you make it fit inside the shell? Is it the same dimensions as the 3000 mAh ones?
4) How long does it take to charge & does it still support fast charging?
5) How many hours of SoT are you getting now? (which ROM you're in that would help too)
Thanks in advance.
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1-No its not exploded yet, its working very well
2-I guess no , because im having same SoT as i get it when i first buy the phone
3-I removed the screen first,then one by one other compenents.Dimensions are the same
4-Its takin 50-60 mins to charge from %5 to full
6-Stock rom 4-4.5 hours depend on the use

I sent my HTC-10 in for battery replacement through the official service in Germany. This was approx. 6 weeks before my warranty ran out.
Battery performance was really bad with SOT of around 2 hrs, and random shut downs at 20-40% battery capacity.
After 2-3 weeks it came back, and according the delivery paper the battery has been replaced.
But regrettably no improvement could be notified.
So I sent it back again and got it back within approx. 1 week. This time they had replaced the side keys on the Phone, but even this time I could not find any improvement of the battery performance.
So I claimed it a third time, and sent it to the official service again. But now my 24 months warranty was gone….However they still accepted this as a Warranty claim and when I got my phone back after approx. 2-3 weeks it had a new battery, and a new screen.
Since then, the battery performance is good and my phone works more or less like a new one.
I get SOT between 4-5 hrs and no more shut downs and boot loops using stock Oreo.
hansing

hansing said:
I sent my HTC-10 in for battery replacement through the official service in Germany. This was approx. 6 weeks before my warranty ran out.
Battery performance was really bad with SOT of around 2 hrs, and random shut downs at 20-40% battery capacity.
After 2-3 weeks it came back, and according the delivery paper the battery has been replaced.
But regrettably no improvement could be notified.
So I sent it back again and got it back within approx. 1 week. This time they had replaced the side keys on the Phone, but even this time I could not find any improvement of the battery performance.
So I claimed it a third time, and sent it to the official service again. But now my 24 months warranty was gone….However they still accepted this as a Warranty claim and when I got my phone back after approx. 2-3 weeks it had a new battery, and a new screen.
Since then, the battery performance is good and my phone works more or less like a new one.
I get SOT between 4-5 hrs and no more shut downs and boot loops using stock Oreo.
hansing
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got the same issues and replaced battery from official htc service.
well sot was around 3h when i first bought it.now its 4h and battery still 48%.
frined buy it from the same shop 1 week after me and he still got 4h+ sot.so i guess some devices sold with deflected battery?