[Q] Mugen Battery strangeness... - Vibrant Accessories

This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....

i think you need to charge it for 12 hours first.
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Thanks,you were right! An overnight charge of around 12 hours did it.This is the first phone battery I had to do that with to get them to just work at all.Seems to work just fine now Again,thank you!

Let us know how long the battery is lasting once you get a few cycles please!

Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.

Will do,just need a few days to do it,its lasting a looooong time!

XPLANE9 said:
Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
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NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.

I am having a similar issue with a battery that I ordered off of ebay. It's 3500mah.
When I plug it in it will turn off and get stuck in a boot loop on the vibrant screen, but if it is off then it won't turn on at all when plugged in. It has been plugged in for 9 hours so far and it doesn't even show the charging animation or anything.
Normal? Or is the battery defective?
Thanks.

Ok. After charging it overnight and still nothing, I'm going to assume its broken. Thanks.

dragon2knight said:
This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
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Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?

it fits good...
lincoln131 said:
Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
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...and it does get a bit bulky,weight goes up to about double the amount,but it is so worth it,and then some!!I went from 6 hours on the stock battery to over 18 with the Mugen,and thats with heavy use(full brightness/live wallpaper,etc.).If you dont have access to a charger outside your home,this is a great buy,and you know the quality is there,unlike the uncertainty of the cheep chinese ones.Highly recommended!

The OS needs to learn your new battery. Just takes time and usage.
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just bought 3000 mah
just bought one from accessory geeks, it came 70% charged, and am updating battery stats after a full charge, during stat recalibration, power is iffy. will update, and am considering mugen. any suggestions?

I am not so sure about your information
Mannymal said:
NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
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I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby

roby5167 said:
I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
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No controversies at all. Your info from the link is outright wrong.
Mannymal is correct on this one.

I also have this battery. By the time I got it, Team Whiskeys roms had gotten good enough to where I didn't need an extended battery for day to day use (stock battery usually has 30-40% when i go to bed), but I do use it when I travel, so I don't have to worry about using it like crazy. The battery lasts a long time, probably like 2 or 3 days if I actually tried to drain it, at least. And it's definitely adds bulk, but it's reasonably well made and feels sturdy.
My only complaint is that I sometimes cover the speaker with my finger when I want to silence it real quick, and it doesn't work with this because the cover's so far from the speaker. But that's just my weird thing.
Also, yeah, don't kill your battery. No es bueno.

What is this? How do I read?
What is this? How do I read?

I use a seido innocell battery and it works great after a few over night charges. I get about 8 hours average of talk time. The battery is pretty small compared to the one accessory greeks sell. Even though the ah battery ia twenty five dollars, that is like the entry level name brand battery, it will lady you a while longer than the cheap ones on ebay, but I don't knower about the ones on ebay although I do know about the one ag sells skies down charging after about 45 percent charging. The seido is charging pretty fast for me and is half the price of a mugen, the next battery I'm going to buy will be the nugent, not because I need it, just
Cause I want to enjoy it.
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All batteries are so used it. . . .
All batteries are so used it. . . .

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So I bought the Seidio 3500mAh...

And it doesn't seem to charge pat 70%. I'll leave it on the charger until it is at 100% (not 90% like some people have issues with), and then when I take it off, within 2-3 hours I am down to anywhere from 72-68%. This isn't with heavy use, for example this morning it has been off for 2 hours, it is at 75% and I did nothing with it except read one email.
Just testing things out, I charged it while the phone was off, and it seemed to discharge slower.
Is this a common thing with these batteries or is mine somehow defective?
Thanks.
Did you recalibrate the battery in your recovery? Charge to full, boot recovery, wipe battery stats, then let it run till it dies.
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Did you recalibrate the battery in your recovery? Charge to full, boot recovery, wipe battery stats, then let it run till it dies.
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I did, but I might try that again. It may not have been actually at 100% (I didn't turn it off, because I didn't know about the issue when I calibrated).
All the other threads had the answer but.....
The driver that has the stats for the 3500mah battery isn't there.
They only included the driver with stats for 1500mah.
If you want to fully charge the battery, you have to do it externally. Even with phone powered off, it may not fully do it.
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All the other threads had the answer but.....
The driver that has the stats for the 3500mah battery isn't there.
They only included the driver with stats for 1500mah.
If you want to fully charge the battery, you have to do it externally. Even with phone powered off, it may not fully do it.
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+1.
The evo can't charge the seidio or any non-htc battery properly. Get an external charger and watch your battery life increase with every charge. I don't even wipe battery stats anymore.
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All the other threads had the answer but.....
The driver that has the stats for the 3500mah battery isn't there.
They only included the driver with stats for 1500mah.
If you want to fully charge the battery, you have to do it externally. Even with phone powered off, it may not fully do it.
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That would make sense... I might ditch it then, if I can't reliably charge it 100% because the battery door is pretty hard to remove compared to the stock one and I don't want to end up breaking it one day.
Is that something that would be in the ROM? I'm just wondering if it's worth holding out hope for someone to write a driver for it in CM6 or something.
Yeah I just let it charge until it turned green, turned it off and let it charge until green again (another half hour or so), unplugged it and did it again and it is now at 89% after literally just wiping the battery stats and booting up.
Maybe I'm just being too neurotic about it. It lasts 2 days, I guess I should be happy, but with the stock battery I got 30-36 hours using CM6 and Snap, so I was hoping for more than that.
Been having similar issues did a full wipe the last Rom I loaded and now two hours after unplugged I'm still at 100% so who knows.
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That would make sense... I might ditch it then, if I can't reliably charge it 100% because the battery door is pretty hard to remove compared to the stock one and I don't want to end up breaking it one day.
Is that something that would be in the ROM? I'm just wondering if it's worth holding out hope for someone to write a driver for it in CM6 or something.
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It's hard to say if it's in the rom because the evo itself will not charge any non-htc battery correctly even when it is turned off. It seems there are both hardware and software controls to ensure nothing but the evo battery gets charged correctly.
Here is what I did about the battery door http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786101
The fact that this battery has been out for so long, so many people have it, and HTC knows about this flaw and hasnt done anything about it is absolutely pitiful and HTC should be ashamed of themselves.
As everyone has said, the only way to get a proper 100 charge is in an external charger. The closest way to to do it in the phone is to leave the phone charging overnight, unplug it when you wake up, and plug it in about 5 minutes later to top it off. Youll get close but it still wont be true 100.
Either way, the only way to properly charge any extended battery for the evo is in a wall charger.
dang i should have canceled my order. Seidio's stupid cancellation policy made me not do it. "cancellations after 2 hrs incur a fee" Now im going to have a Evo with a pot belly and a empty stomach. BS
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dang i should have canceled my order. Seidio's stupid cancellation policy made me not do it. "cancellations after 2 hrs incur a fee" Now im going to have a Evo with a pot belly and a empty stomach. BS
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If you can get it charged properly youll be happy with it. You just have to work around HTC's dumbness.
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If you can get it charged properly youll be happy with it. You just have to work around HTC's dumbness.
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Yeah it seems like I guess it's mostly HTC's fault in this manner. I'm back on the stock battery for now. I might just keep the extended battery at ~60 (apparently the best way to store Lithium Ion) and when I plan on heading out for a weekend trip or something like that, I'll charge the battery up and put that in my phone.
For everyday use, having to remove the battery to charge it sucks.
What would be ideal is if HTC allowed you to key in the MAH of the battery you have installed in your phone or something along those lines to ensure the battery gets charged correctly . I know its a long stretch but hey I can dream ROFL . This charging bug has been the one major thing preventing me from getting an extended battery . I have toyed with the idea of getting a chinese one for cheap just to play around with and so forth but not to drop the cash Seidio wants for theirs . HTC needs to address the charging issue anyways , most users that use a wall charger for their stock batteries have reported improved battery life . Its sad when a cheap wall charger from china out performs charging a battery better than a 600 dollar phone is able to .
I dug thru the code for the battery driver. There seems to be 3-4 different driver sets, but all are 1500mah or less.
It's been many, many years since I programmed, but the structure has an array of temps, max, min MAH, charge rate, and quite a few other specifics relating to battery.
I'm not sure the logic between the charge circuit, the battery and how it knows which battery is inserted, but some of this info is parsed into the logs while it's charging.
A decent programmer could probably code and recompile this into the OS. That programmer isn't ME. I switched to engineering and networking too long ago to remember enough not to blow stuff up.
This is the one thing keeping me from purchasing a hicap battery. Good to hear that it is software related though. Maybe if they got a pool going some enterprising dev will take a whack at it. Disclaimers work
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I dug thru the code for the battery driver. There seems to be 3-4 different driver sets, but all are 1500mah or less.
It's been many, many years since I programmed, but the structure has an array of temps, max, min MAH, charge rate, and quite a few other specifics relating to battery.
I'm not sure the logic between the charge circuit, the battery and how it knows which battery is inserted, but some of this info is parsed into the logs while it's charging.
A decent programmer could probably code and recompile this into the OS. That programmer isn't ME. I switched to engineering and networking too long ago to remember enough not to blow stuff up.
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im wondering if cyanogen and co can work their magic
I'm quite sure they and many others could, but not everyone has the Seidio battery, compared to the numbers of EVO users.
It's probably not worth their time and effort to bother.
What WOULD be nice is if the Seidio folks had programmers instead of just sales folks and could code their own patch for their own products.
I won't be holding my breath tho for any solution. it's ok for me, I have the external charger from my TP2 days. Plus spare batteries as well and don't mind switching when needed. I knew of the issue and was prepared for it before purchasing.
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I'm quite sure they and many others could, but not everyone has the Seidio battery, compared to the numbers of EVO users.
It's probably not worth their time and effort to bother.
What WOULD be nice is if the Seidio folks had programmers instead of just sales folks and could code their own patch for their own products.
I won't be holding my breath tho for any solution. it's ok for me, I have the external charger from my TP2 days. Plus spare batteries as well and don't mind switching when needed. I knew of the issue and was prepared for it before purchasing.
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Yeah I wasn't so much prepared for it. I heard a few things about it, but nothing solid for sure, I should have done some more research. All the reviews on websites were glowing, but I usually take that with a grain of salt.
Too bad even if Seidio had programmers, I'm on CM6 so that wouldn't help me too much haha. On my stock battery I'm getting around 24-28 hours which is plenty fine I guess. Not looking forward to when the battery starts losing its maximum charge, though.
So i don't have an external charger...but i followed the instructions via seidio...
heres what i got:
Rom: CM6 Final Stable
SetCPU: 245/1152 Conservative (Freq Step = 10)
Took phone off charger (from phone) aat 5:30AM
will post back later today with results (hopefully good)

dont buy the extended battery

i recently bought a extended battery with cover off of the official VZW online store. the battery worked great for about a day until the battery life ran out, then i tried to charge it and now it just started randomly shutting off on me even when the phone said i had about 60% battery remaining. so i left it in the charger over night and now it wont even turn on at all until i put in the regular battery. so i ordered a new one and you know what happened? the exact same problem occured with this battery to. it worked fine for a day, then it ran out of juice and completely stopped working.
so here is my warning to all of you. DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.
I was having crazy issues with my batter acouple nights ago. I never let my phone completely die but it happened this sat. I put it onthe charger then when I tried to turn the phone on the battery meter went from 0% to 5% to 60% then I unplugged it and tried turning it on to no luck... thereafter I put it on the charger and waited for it to get to about 15% and turned it on while still plugged into the wall and it started up. I let the battery charge full and the phone began working like normal.
I am on leaked 2.2, with rubix rom and o/c'd 1.15 and on stock battery
I have 2 stock batteries that I swap daily. If you let the phone die completely you can't turn it back on until you've charged the battery to at least 5%. Sometimes when I swap a battery from a fully charged to one that's about 15% to recharge, it says it's at 60%. Not sure why, but it sounds like the phone's software looks at the readings and says to itself, "there's no way I can go from 100% to 15% when I shut down and rebooted." I'm sure it's just the software being stupid.
I've had the extended battery since I bought the phone about a month ago, never had a single problem with it and my battery life is great...
I bought the extended battery when they became available, and have not had a problem with it. Knock wood
Love my extended battery. No issues here.
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No issues with my extended battery either. In fact, I regularly get 30 - 36 hours out of it!!
Extended here too, no problems whatsoever since it was released. The issue I have is the motorola cases not fitting.
Had I known this, I would have bought the Siedo extended battery instead.
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Extended here too, no problems whatsoever since it was released. The issue I have is the motorola cases not fitting.
Had I known this, I would have bought the Siedo extended battery instead.
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I just bought 1 of the hard cases from verizon and it's allllmmost perfect. No problems whatsoever except for that the 1 spot above the charging port will not stay snapped. i got my extended battery last night. I let it charge for 12 hours for the first time and I hope that helps it. I kind of believe that that is some peoples problem. they don't let it charge long enough the first time. I let it charge 10 to 12 hours and then let it die all the way the first 2 or 3 charge cycles. Then I usually plug it in once It gets down to 15 percent and every 10 or so charge cycles I let it die completely. I can't wait for the seidio 2800 mah battery. Is there any news on a release date? I had the 3500mah battery for the incredible and it was spectacular. I use the phone so much that the standard battery only lasts 3-5hrs but the seidio innocell lasted 1.5 days. A huggggeeee upgrade. But I couldn't find a reasonible case afterwards so I kinda put my silicone case on and traced around the new battery cover with a boxcutter to make it fit. Afterwards I melted the edges with a lighter to smooth them and prevent splitting. The DInc seidio extended case doesn't cover the bat door anyway. Not to mention it doesn't even cover half the edges. I sure hope they design a bettr case for the DX cuz I love their batteries are the best
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Are you using the Moto charger?
I had similar problems with my first extended battery for the Droid X. However Verizon replaced it, and there has been no problem since.
As for incompatibility with cases, I use the snap on clear case from Verizon. Had problems with it not wanting to stay snapped together. After modifications to the case failed to correct the issue, I removed the battery cover completely. No issues anymore.
Plus since I use the clear case, I have a nice nerdy view from the back.
xmetl said:
DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.
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I received my Extended Battery two days ago. I love it! It holds significantly more power. And I can still use my Body Glove Droid X cover with the Extended Battery and included battery cover.
Anyway... I rate my extended battery experience as 10 out of 10.
I cant say I noticed to much of an increase but i'm back and forth with modding and o/c so I know lots of that goes into play with battery times.. right now i'm on an UV and I can easily go into a 2nd work day without needing a charge.
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I received my Extended Battery two days ago. I love it! It holds significantly more power. And I can still use my Body Glove Droid X cover with the Extended Battery and included battery cover.
Anyway... I rate my extended battery experience as 10 out of 10.
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Yes...extended battery didn't make a bit of difference...it made a HUGE difference.
It is barely noticeable in size...fits in the multi-media dock, no probelm with my hybrid TPU case...and lasts quite a bit longer.
Or maybe I should say...gets me through to where if I did run out of juice...I'm at home with a charger. Either way...I'm good from 6am to 6pm at least. (i dont call anyone btw). Just massive amounts of texting and web.
I have had mine for almost 2 months and it works great. I deffinitely notice a difference from the stock battery. Would by again if I had to do it all over.
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Love my extended battery. No issues here.
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Same story here.
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xmetl said:
i recently bought a extended battery with cover off of the official VZW online store. the battery worked great for about a day until the battery life ran out, then i tried to charge it and now it just started randomly shutting off on me even when the phone said i had about 60% battery remaining. so i left it in the charger over night and now it wont even turn on at all until i put in the regular battery. so i ordered a new one and you know what happened? the exact same problem occured with this battery to. it worked fine for a day, then it ran out of juice and completely stopped working.
so here is my warning to all of you. DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.
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It's good to post your experience, however don't you think a sample of one device and two batteries doesn't qualify as a crappy accessory? I've been running an extended battery since it came out with great results. As a matter of fact a week ago I tried to go back to the standard battery just to make sure the improvement wasn't in my head and the difference was at least 3 hours.
So assuming you aren't frightened at the prospect of returning a battery if it doesn't work for you, go ahead and get one. For a very modest bump in weight it adds a lot of life.
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Same story here.
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Same with me, mines working great.
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Don't buy the extended battery
I also bought the extended battery from Verizon. It works fine except for a small problem. The built-in battery monitor some times complains that I have installed a non-compatible battery or something like that and suggests that I replace it with the original. A question mark "?" shows up in the status bar and the battery level is not reported correctly.
I picked up "Juice Defender" and paid for the pro model. It says that in last 48 hours It has multiplied battery life by X1.73. I also downloaded an app called "battery Status" which shows the percentage of battery left. Lots of nice options for display.
So what did I do with my original battery? Hmmm I noticed that it is fairly thin so I stuck it in my wallet. Since the ram is non-destructive, I can change the battery when it gets low.
All in all I am very happy with the "Extended Battery" I got from Verizon.
Alan Karpe
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I have been using my extended battery for two day now and......
It is uber-awesome! I am very happy with it at the moment!!!!!! (two days, I was typing faster than I was thinking!)

Sieidio Battery 1750mAh Extended Battery Review

I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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I don't even understand your review, but I guess I do understand you are being negative.
But this battery works way better than the stock battery that came with my EVO. It ****s on the stock battery. Diarrhea.
Maybe it's just because I bought it for $50 from Best Buy. What a bargain!
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I don't even understand your review, but I guess I do understand you are being negative.
But this battery works way better than the stock battery that came with my EVO. It ****s on the stock battery. Diarrhea.
Maybe it's just because I bought it for $50 from Best Buy. What a bargain!
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Sounds like too much for a 1750 battery. I'd rather just go all out and get the 3500
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I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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I got two 1800mAh batteries for about $30, and experienced the same thing. After awhile though, I realized that you have to do a few things to get better battery life.
1) Charge the battery to full while the phone is on.
2) Unplug and plug back in to verify that the phone is fully charged (green led)
3) Turn the phone off
4) Unplug, plug in, and wait for a green led
5) Repeat that 5-10 times
6) Then while still plugged in, reboot into Recovery and wipe the battery stats via the advanced menu.
7) Reboot, and use your phone as you normally would.
This may sound like alot, but it really only take about 5 mins. Even after wipe, it will still take about 5 full discharges to reap the better battery life. Hope this helps!
I think its just luck of the draw on aftermarket batteries (the cheap ones at least)
I have heard good and bad on ALL of them.
I got the Chichitec/htcexpress 1800 batteries with charger. Came in the other day and I couldn't be happier. 14 hours on initial charge, that's unheard of for me. On my stock battery I had to keep the phone plugged in most of the day at work just to still have juice by the time I got home. And supposedly these things start acting even better after a few charge cycles.
(Fits with stock battery door too)
But for every person that has a good experience with any of these companies, there's someone else with a horror story.
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I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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Could have told you that before you bought it, ratings by aftermarket reputable companies are close and never accurate...if they rate it at 1750, it's probably 1500-1650... The stock is 1500 so yes you wasted your money. Now on the other hand, the 3500 is the best investment anyone could ever make....
It's been proven long ago seidio over rates their batteries. The "1750" is actually just under 1500, so less capacity then the stock battery.
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just terribad in my opinion, gonna stick to my seidio 3500. rather have the size and life than a small size and a measly bump from the 1750mah battery
They rated it less than a 1500 stock battery.
Key with extended batteries is that you actually have to charge them longer than your phone indicates.
Example: I phone said it was fully charged at 3:26am in the morning. Yet it continue to charge until at least 6:45am before it was constant. Granted I am using an SBC kernel but even without, you need to let it charge the night. Don't let the green light fool you. It takes a few extra hours to charge even if the led light is green!
You should just about fully drain your battery and then let it charge overnight. If you aren't on an SBC kernel you may actually want to charge your phone while it's off so that the battery dictates the charge.
You should also wipe your battery stats once the phone is fully charged.
Try that and see if it works for you. I know that I was getting great battery life even on the stock battery. I play "Word With friends" (at least 15 matches running) a lot (at least 15 matches running concurrently) and this game actually drains battery. I still got through the day fine though I also carry a Touch Pro 2 and having the batteries that are the same size allows me to swap when needed.
I have the 2650mah one from sprint and my 3500mah seidio coming in the mail tomorrow. I'll probably write a review for it later. Note, On my 2650mah, it's already on its 12th hour and I was was playing WWF, surfing the web, made several calls and it's still at 77%. I will leave it off the charger tonight and see how it fairs tomorrow.
Good Luck!
I have tested these and if they do last longer then stock, it is only like maybe 20 mins. I have an external charger as well as running the SBC kernel to get a complete charge. I have the sprint 2600 battery as well and love it. Not many cases for it but I have modified a sedio rugged and ballistic to work with it. I let my wife use it for a few days in her evo and had to fight to get it back from her.
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[Q] Does this mean my S3 needs a new battery?

Ever since last week, my battery has been misrepresenting the % of battery. For example, last week, I had fully charged my phone in the morning and it said 100%. Right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 60% battery. When I used my phone, it dropped 1-2% every minute. I thought it was an app or something that was doing this, so I installed Battery Doctor. It didn't really make a difference.
I'm posting this, because right now it's worse than ever. It said that I had 100% battery and then right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 56% battery. After I closed the screen, it said 100% battery again. Then it started to drop %'s every few seconds.
Some information that might be handy:
- I've had the S3 for 1 1/2 years now
- Was rooted, after update, root was removed and I haven't bothered
-Attached to the pictures are two pictures of my battery today. I haven't done anything but screenshot twice.
Also if it is a battery problem, what type of battery should I get? I'm thinking of buying an Anker 4400 mAh Extended battery (http://www.amazon.ca/Extended-GT-I9300-T-Mobile-Cellular-EB-L1G6LLU/dp/B009GVG8FA).
ic3blitz said:
Ever since last week, my battery has been misrepresenting the % of battery. For example, last week, I had fully charged my phone in the morning and it said 100%. Right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 60% battery. When I used my phone, it dropped 1-2% every minute. I thought it was an app or something that was doing this, so I installed Battery Doctor. It didn't really make a difference.
I'm posting this, because right now it's worse than ever. It said that I had 100% battery and then right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 56% battery. After I closed the screen, it said 100% battery again. Then it started to drop %'s every few seconds.
Some information that might be handy:
- I've had the S3 for 1 1/2 years now
- Was rooted, after update, root was removed and I haven't bothered
-Attached to the pictures are two pictures of my battery today. I haven't done anything but screenshot twice.
Also if it is a battery problem, what type of battery should I get? I'm thinking of buying an Anker 4400 mAh Extended battery (http://www.amazon.ca/Extended-GT-I9300-T-Mobile-Cellular-EB-L1G6LLU/dp/B009GVG8FA).
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Chances are that your battery is dying. I don't really know which one is best to get as replacement though.
You should also take a look at what is using your battery, there might be more than a dying battery (app, system). Can also get OS Monitor to see if something is over-using your ram/cpu.
N.B.: Extended battery makes your back cover much larger, you'll also need a different case (if you're using one).
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Chances are that your battery is dying. I really know which one is best to get as replacement though.
You should also take a look at what is using your battery, there might be more than a dying battery (app, system). Can also get OS Monitor to see if something is over-using your ram/cpu.
N.B.: Extended battery makes your back cover much larger, you'll also need a different case (if you're using one).
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Nothing's using up my battery because I checked through a multitude of apps and the processes running were all the same as before my battery was really dying. I do have a case so I guess I'll just try to find a smaller battery. Thanks for confirming my suspicion about my battery!
I have the ZeroLemon battery. 2300 ma. Same size as stock battery. It was a good deal. They give you 2 batteries and wall charger. Only downside is it does not have NFC. I don't use it so didn't bother me.
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I got the zero lemon 2300 and I went from 1.5 hrs of screen on time to a little over 4 hrs of screen on time. Once while doing nothing but watching videos I got 5.5 hrs. My phone is the same age as yours. Seems that is about the lifespan of smart phone batteries.
edited to add that my phone would lose 2.5 % an hr while idle, but now it's only 0.4%.

Phone abruptly dies under 20% battery

Phone totally goes black/dies when battery is 21% down to 10%. does this just mean the battery I have is bad? What replacement battery is best? I've read Anker makes a good set with charger. Thanks.
Samsung SDI batteries are the only batteries I've known to do this. When screen goes black, that should be a shutdown. Do you plug in your charger at that time? Mine actually actually showed 0%.
It's inconvenient for a battery to shutdown unexpectedly, while showing capacity remaining. I always replace Samsung OEM batteries with another brand. I found one that I liked so l went to Amazon and bought a second plus external charger from same brand. If looking at another alternative, just search MPJ and read the reviews. The battery and wall charger were on sale last week, maybe still.
If you're considering upgrading to sealed battery in unibody phone, you should consider the care required for such a phone to get battery to last. Sealed batteries are actually very similar in capability and ratings; no leap in tech but apparent shortcoming evident in Note7 embarrassment. Fast charging produces heat and steals life from battery's endurance down the road. Studies have shown since lithium batteries have no memory that you're actually prolonging the battery by slow charging without load or minimum load and bump charging rather than cycling battery to near 0% then back to 100%. Manufacturers don't tell you that because they prefer you wear your battery down in less than a year's time and consider another phone purchase.
Maybe Samsung would be better off today if consumers were more aware of how to prolong lithium batteries?
If you want your battery to last two years, bump charge it after 25% used as much as possible; it shouldn't even matter if you bump charge it 3x per day. Avoid fast charging and heat cycles. IOW, try not to use it while charging; the cycles should be short anyway.
Or, if you prefer to abuse a removable battery like the Note 4 and care less, pay about $15 and just replace the battery every year. 500 full cycles is all these batteries are currently rated for due to increased degradation with abuse. Mini cycles allows more of those cycles without degradation but you'll still have capacity when you need it to last a long day without charging.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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Try this, if you are rooted and have recovery wipe dalvik cache and cache. Power off phone and pull battery for like 5-10min. Hold the power button (with battery out) for like 1-2min. After letting battery sit out for 5-10min reboot and see what happens. If same instances occur. Your battery is dead just purchase a new one! Anker recommended!
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Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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You're welcome.
Bump charging is partially charging before battery gets low. An example would be running the battery down 25% and charging without overcharging it.
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Had the same issue, bought a new Anker and issues resolved, the stock Samsung sucks!
I'm just glad there's a way to replace it that'll mean this phone can last a long time if I'm careful with it.
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yes the stock Samsung batteries are horrible. They don't last very long then they start misrepresenting the battery statistics to the OS so you get the shutdowns at 20 or so %. I switched to a twenty$ Anker I found on Amazon over 6 months ago and never had the issue occur again. Even thy sprint techs will tell you if you ask them outright!
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