[Q] Considering purchasing a ZenWatch, but... - Asus ZenWatch

So, after an extremely difficult to explain accident my Motorola MotoACTV has basically given up the ghost. I'm lookin' into the newer Android wear devices for a replacement, and I'm wondering: How'd a ZenWatch do me? Seems that's the most unanimously recommended model and the current pricing is good. My main concern lies mostly with the durability of the device - I work as a frycook so this thing's gonna have to withstand some fairly high temperatures. Any concerns there (or otherwise) I should know of? Thanks!

I'm not sure how the face/battery/housing would hold up to heat. But, you would probably want to look into replacing the stock leather wristband with something metal. The leather holds up extremely well to casual sweat and water, but I assume hot greases and oils as well as extended exposure to cleaning solutions would be rough on it.
The watch is currently on a short term sale for $150.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...00010_zenwatch_android_smartwatch_brown.html#
Other things to consider. The Zenwatch 2 has been announced, so the first one won't be cutting edge for very long if that matters to you. Also, if you really are in semi extreme conditions due to your job, you may want to look at some options geared more towards athletes and are built to take a beating. This one is very attractive and doesn't appear to be fragile, but it's definitely not sporty.

Thanks for the advice! I might go with the current model just to save some cash, though waiting for the 2 is tempting! is anything out there right now so far as hardware specs or software-level improvements?
With regards to the work environment issues I actually can't imagine things being too much of a problem (though i defs should get a metal band and I'll wanna keep up on keeping the device clean) - worst case scenario I can always wear my trusty Casio Telememo 30 to work and save the ZenWatch for less potentially hazardous conditions! My MotoACTV did fine, I should note.

I think it would be a good choice, there is certainly nothing in the next version that makes me want to upgrade. And there are plenty of cheap metal bands out there - I use this one at the moment and it is very good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400892494610?euid=87af0097fb9d4ac4b96ba89b1a162e5d&cp=1

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Keyboard Case: Anyone Interested?

This is just a little research into the market for a new Desire (and other Android phones) accessory I hope to make and sell.
Similar to the TK-421 keyboard case for the iPhone, its pretty much for anyone with a keyboardless phone looking for a more tactile typing experience. I will aim to simplify the hinge more compared to the TK-421, making it more sturdy and have less chance of problems. If you read up some reviews on it, you'll notice the swivel hinge is held together by 1 thin pin and users have a constant feeling that it will break.
I wouldn't have an idea on how to go about making a sturdy sliding mechanism as an alternative (hey, even the phone manufacturers haven't got it right yet!) or even a slider at all.So instead, I've decided to go with a simple flipping hinge for the time being. I can think of a few problems with this already. Just can't win, but I'll work something out.
It's early idea stages so far, but I just want to get a feel for people's opinions, since it's definitely a 2 sided discussion. Some prefer keeping their device thin and sleek, while others love their device apart from the fact that there's no physical keyboard and would not hesitate to sacrifice the thinness.
Keeping in mind, this WILL add a significant thickness to your phone.
An 11mm thick phone + 1mm thick case + ~9mm thick keyboard = behemoth
Imagine a Nokia N900 or Touch Pro 2 (comparable to a bricks), but slightly thicker. The upside however, is that you're not stuck withthe bulkiness all the time.
In other words, switch between brick and slick, whenever you want
In addition: if this project goes through and is mildly successful, I may release a "Gamepad Addon", making gaming more enjoyable for us with keyboard-less phones. In fact, I might first release it specifically targeting gamers depending on the respsonse... Pushing the brainstorm aside, I just want to hear what everyone thinks!
Please post with your opinion below. The more feedback I get, the better. If you don't feel like posting, please at least vote it the poll so I can get a close idea.
This isn't all just written ideas by the way. I've been testing different things with my Nexus One and the specific keyboard I'll be using for a few weeks now.
NOTE: I've posted this in the Desire section simply because it's the best fitted phone for this accessory. It's the same size as the keyboard (all 3.7 inch screen phones are also), the trackpad does not protrude much and therefore won't interfere with the mechanism. This pretty much leaves the Desire and Droid Incredible, but there seems to be a bigger Desire community...so here goes!
I wouldn't mind the accessory, but the price shouldn't be prohibitive. Another question will be how would you connect to the Desire? Bluetooth?
Yep, Bluetooth is the only option.
Unfortunately USB Host isn't available on the Desire and other androids without an external power source and lots of fiddling.
This means if you wanted this accessory you'd need to either be running CM6, or have some third party software (BlueInput/BlueKeyboard JP). If I had programming experience I'd develop the drivers myself, sadly this is not the case!
As for price, I am thinking US $30-$40. There are a couple of iPhone cases soon to be released in the $70-80 price range which I think is a little steep.
Personally, $40 would be the borderline price if I were to buy something like this, so hopefully it'll be a little less than that.
What about the positioning? Will it be like the iPhone version and be placed on the back? Battery life? Will the gaming addon cost more?

[Q] Magnetic Floatation Holder.

Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?
Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...
Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.
Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.
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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...
Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea
Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....
I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.
im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.
any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested
Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.
I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.
And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially
This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.
hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with

Wireless Charging Phone Sleeve for Nexus 5

Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Nexus 5 user invest in a new phone sleeve?
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers?
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers?
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks! I'm also asking the Samsung s5 guys for their feedback.
I would definitely use it because it seems like a very cool way of charge your phone while you are on the go!
Because a sleeve is better than a poweramp which is big an bulky
Please just do a Nexus 5 Version
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I would definitely use it because it seems like a very cool way of charge your phone while you are on the go!
Because a sleeve is better than a poweramp which is big an bulky
Please just do a Nexus 5 Version
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I have both a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 4, so I'm definitely invested in the Nexus family! Ie. I definitely want to support the Nexus 5 if people want it.
The humongous Nexus 6 on the other hand...
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I have both a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 4, so I'm definitely invested in the Nexus family! Ie. I definitely want to support the Nexus 5 if people want it.
The humongous Nexus 6 on the other hand...
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Yeah like I said I would buy one because the battery on our phone isn't the best as we all know.
Great idea !
I will buy one if it isn't too expensive.
Do you know about an approximately price yet?
I don't get why you need to make that thing a sleeve. I wouldn't buy it because basically it'd make my phone unusable while I charged it. Make it have a transparent front, or a removable front, and maybe it's worth it.
I frankly don't see the point in it, and frankly having an app that "optimizes my charging experience" is something I dont see as something I need or want, I want my phone to charge and installing an app so I get better charging (in some way I don't understand or even see how it's possible) is something I want to avoid, not look upon as a unique selling proposition.
You are competing with $5 power banks here, at least in my mind, and I really don't see something here that makes me want to spend the money I can see this costing just so I can charge my phone wirelessly while it's in my bag.
I'm not being negative here, I'm being honest and since you're probably going to be investing some of your money here, I hope you don't take this the wrong way. Make it modular, with different sleeves you can buy for your phone, make it possible to use it as a power bank for non-qi devices and you have something interesting *for me*.
Good luck at any rate.
I see the need and want for it... but i dont like how its a sleeve... say i use this at night... and use my phone for my alarm. well how do i silence the alarm without taking it out of the charger... isnt going to happen...
I like to idea of modular, were you can maybe has detachable sleeves... maybe a large one that covers the screen for people who want it in their bags, or maybe half a sleeve for people who use it at night, and still have to have access to the mute/disregard of the alarm apps.
Know what I mean?
Yeah I see what you mean. That's a great idea!
However, that's not necessary now because the sleeve is thin enough that you can place your phone over it and it will still charge, ie. The sleeve becomes a charging mat.
But at the end of the day, its still a sleeve so you need to slip it out before using the phone if its inside. Good idea though! Maybe I can offer it as a stretch goal
I'm already using a powerbank. But as others stated, it's not very comfortable when you're using the phone.
I think a case would be much more useful than a powerbank or a sleeve. And you could add an attachable cover to sweeten the deal. That way everyone could get what they want from our lovely phones. And I would definitely buy and support something like that.
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Not settled on the price yet. Thinking of two versions now, a daily driver denim material and a premium luxurious leather. But b still experimenting. People have told me v they want a transparent front, so testing that atm
Currently have a Galaxy S4 with a ZeroLemon extended battery but I'm on the verge of switching to a Nexus 5. The only thing I'd miss from my S4 is the huge battery life with the ZeroLemon so I was looking at battery cases. However, I love the idea of a wireless charging pouch/sleeve. It would allow the Nexus 5 to remain naked when using it but keeps it charging while in the pocket. I was thinking of doing this using a standard external battery but that'll require plugging it in which is a real pain.
I've added my email address on the notify for more info. Definitely interested.
Just out of interest, will the pouch be specific for a particular phone or will it be generic for a variety of phones (assuming roughly the same size). Also, is the pouch designed to only accept the phone naked? What if the phone has a slim TPU case or bumper?
A few questions:
1.How is this better than battery cases which are on the market right now?
2.What will happen if i accidentally put the phone wrong side up into the case?
3.Durability of the pouch?
Techno79 said:
Just out of interest, will the pouch be specific for a particular phone or will it be generic for a variety of phones (assuming roughly the same size). Also, is the pouch designed to only accept the phone naked? What if the phone has a slim TPU case or bumper?
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1. Generic for a variety of phones!
2. Insisting on stretchable materials, so the phone is easy to slip in and out- PLUS it tolerates slim cases! And even the s5 wireless charging back. Not sure what maximum thickness case works though- this calls for a stress test video.
gamer.11 said:
A few questions:
1.How is this better than battery cases which are on the market right now?
2.What will happen if i accidentally put the phone wrong side up into the case?
3.Durability of the pouch?
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1. It's better looking, and it doesn't make your phone thicker or heavier or imbalanced. Why should you have to choose between a slim, beautiful phone and a bulky one with battery life that lasts the day?
2. Both sides and wrong side up it will still charge!
3. Durability as in... the material? Battery capacity? Battery longevity? I'm committed to making ampere the best it can be plus I'm a tactile person, so the sleeve's fabric is high quality stuff- I really like the feel of the denim, very tough.
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3. Durability as in... the material? Battery capacity? Battery longevity? I'm committed to making ampere the best it can be plus I'm a tactile person, so the sleeve's fabric is high quality stuff- I really like the feel of the denim, very tough.
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Environmental resistance, water, dirt, sweat, puncture resistant from keys or anything like that?
You know what- I hadn't thought about any official certifications! Again, I chose denim which is great looking and durable, so I guess you can extrapolate from your quality jeans. Given the hardware though- I wouldn't say its resistant to water or sweat, but we built it with durability in mind so it wouldn't bend, the insides' aluminium instead of plastic, etc.
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You know what- I hadn't thought about any official certifications! Again, I chose denim which is great looking and durable, so I guess you can extrapolate from your quality jeans. Given the hardware though- I wouldn't say its resistant to water or sweat, but we built it with durability in mind so it wouldn't bend, the insides' aluminium instead of plastic, etc.
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Well, I think it's a great concept and if priced right, I would certainly support it.
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Well, I think it's a great concept and if priced right, I would certainly support it.
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Thanks mate. Appreciate the support.
tongrhj said:
You know what- I hadn't thought about any official certifications! Again, I chose denim which is great looking and durable, so I guess you can extrapolate from your quality jeans. Given the hardware though- I wouldn't say its resistant to water or sweat, but we built it with durability in mind so it wouldn't bend, the insides' aluminium instead of plastic, etc.
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Wouldn't aluminum basically kill the radio signals? Thus using more battery and potentially calls/texts ect if it can't get a signal? This is what happened when I tried using a case with metal.
Seems like a decent idea, need a tester let me know I have 2 nexus 5s I can test with running both lollipop and kitkat. If you are looking for a beta tester just let me know figured it'd be worth a try whats the charge rate of the wireless charger? Would need something above 1000mah pulling wise. My current pocket charger does 800 and my home charger does 1400 so would like something in the middle but anything higher would be awesome it looks like a decent product.

Camera Bump Protection FIX

Hey!
Not a fan of cases, skins, or the like?
I have stumbled upon the best thing that fits inside the lump that protrudes from our lovely Nexus 5X's.
Paper Reinforcement Labels.
Those things we used once a long time in middle school now have a awesome purpose!
They fit inside the white lip perfectly and circle the camera module with grace.
When you stack three or more it creates a nice resting place for your phone.
Enjoy this little tip!
Let me know if you works for you!
Picture Attached!
-Romanpower
Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.
I hope Spigen produce one.
redneck engineering.
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Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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I've been on the fence about returning mine because I've been wary about how much protection it provides. Looks like I have the answer to the question I already knew.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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Wow. I certainly hope you're right and this was just a freak accident. According to the thread on reddit, it only dropped about 1m, from a table onto the floor...
This is just one report (albeit a concerning one) - and it's still far too early to gauge if there is an issue here. At this time all we can do is wait and see (and try not to drop our phones).
On the subject of cases, bumpers, etc. I'm with the minority of those who go without - I like to use the device as it was designed. While I can appreciate the protective benefits a casing may offer, it's always visually apparent when there's a case on, (even the clearest/thinnest ones), and there is always some increase in size when it comes to handling, no matter how minimal. With the elephantine devices we have today, the 'bare' phones are big enough already. The 5X should have had much smaller top & bottom bezels, there's no need for it to be this tall. I wouldn't resent the large phones so much, but there are very few, if any, decent options for those of us who prefer smaller (around 5.2") phones.
I do use pouches/sleeves, but of course the phones are exposed when I'm actually using them, or if they're sitting on a table outside of their pouch. Over the course of a few years, I have accidentally dropped my phones a few times (Galaxy Nexus & Oneplus One, not the 5X thus far), and they have never received anything more than a few scuffs & minor scratches, of course their camera housings didn't protrude as far as that of the 5X.
Personally, I won't be concerned about the durability of the camera or the device in general until it's clear that there's an issue.

Screen Crease

Prior to the release of the Galaxy Fold I held a high interest in the device, it looked to be the next evolution in smartphones and in some ways it is on the cutting edge. On an International flight the guy sitting next to me allowed to examine his Fold Device. My first impression was this is pretty slick until I unfolded it. I had suspicions the display wasn't going to be the seamless beauty seen in the promotional videos Samsung distributed prior to it's release. I didn't ask the user how long he had the device but it had only been released a few months earlier. Maybe it's just me but the crease running down the middle of the display is very pronounced and tough to ignore. Here's Samsung's official statement regarding the crease.
"You may notice the crease at the center of the main screen due to characteristic of new Polymer material but it is a normal characteristic of device designed for the Infinity Flex Display. It will not affect the display’s quality"
"You may notice the crease" You'd be blind if you didn't notice it and I'm curious about their definition of the quality of the display.
I held off on acquiring a Fold and happy I did based feedback I've read. Also I was surprised to read Samsung is releasing the Fold Special Edition which is identical to the current Fold for $1,090 USD. That's close to half the price of it at release! A big price reduction is concerning but understandable since the device had a number of quality issues, hopefully Samsung has addressed most of these.
My biggest deal killer is the crease so my question is how bad is it for people using it as their daily driver? Any word the soon to arrive Fold 2 has improved on this obvious blemish? I know if I dropped two stacks on a smartphone I might be hesitant to throw shade on it but seriously, how bad is the crease?
no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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"You're just scared to throw down 2 stacks"
Wow, a certified mind reader! Money is only a problem when you don't have any...
"If you had actually turned on the screen"
YOU have no clue what you're talking about, the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features.
"Once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted"
The crease was visible regardless of the viewing angle.
"You're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views"
So the "reviewer's" are useless and I should disregard them and put my faith in YOU?
Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME! You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
Easy now guys. While it's ok to disagree, lets do it in a civil and respectful manner. Thank you.
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I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features
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hmmm.. so you spend 20 mins with the fold, and in your eyes, now you've experienced the fold. YET, you still come to a forum and say "how bad is the crease?"
makes no sense to me.
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Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME!
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LOL. its funny how you completely fail to realize i actually own a fold. since day 1 actually. "stick to what i know." LOL
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You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
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what were my first 7 words?
what childish insults? did i swear at you? did i call you names?
samsung unpacked is coming at the beginning of august. the z fold 2 should be announced there.
you'll have yet another year to think about if you want to drop two stacks or not.
good luck
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I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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Thanks for the helpful input. With respect to the Display Replacement, any information as to whether or not Samsung would offer warranty replacement for a visible crease? It would seem they won't, implying it's a known defect they can't yet address. That's my biggest issue. Font Size can be increased, in doing so does it alter the symmetry of the entire display composition? Also, which model are you using? I'm leaning towards a Fold 2 variant of the SMF9070.
From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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This is great input, thanks for sharing your experience. As mentioned I did have an opportunity to demo the Fold but it's the only one I've used to date. On this particular device the crease wasn't subtle, it would be difficult for most to ignore. Not sure what the owner's usage patterns are or other measures he may have employed. It's possible he used a screen protector which enhanced the crease, I didn't ask. When the Fold 2 is released I'll spend some time with it. I don't expect a virtually creaseless display but I would be very disappointed if it was similar to the one I've used.
I'm thinking it should look more like the flip which is less pronounced in video; I've not had a personal fondling of either so my view's here are strictly vicarious. I'm pretty sure I'm in though, I talked myself into it for round one but eventually bailed out with the delays. This time I'm hopeful the launch wont give me enough time to get antsy and I'm make it to pay dirt. Just got to find out about root...
I have had the fold for months, there is a crease, doesn't bother me at all, your mileage may vary!
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
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thank you. exactly what i said.
basic086 said:
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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gotta love affirmation

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