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Or even flash it in At&T SG3. Samsung said the hardware are the same and have all the frequencies. i believe it might not be advertised this way from the carriers. Just thinking out loud.
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Eh, I dont think so. Not at first anyway... after some hackery it might be possible.
The US versions are all the same.
The International version is very different.
It will never work.
I have yet to get 5 bars on my SGS3. Kinda odd.
Not a good idea as someone already stated they're different. I did that once by accident with the original galaxy s. Flashed the canadian firmware for the US version of the phone and ended up bricking it. Not even a jig bought it back to life.
It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
htc fan89 said:
It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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The Skyrocket forums.. the AT&T Note also works because it also has the same SoC. The international version will never work with AWS though.
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... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
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... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
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what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
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The Note had abysmal battery life from what I read. Just wait for someone to do it (they will) so you don't have to possibly return whichever one you buy.
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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Well the At&T Galaxy Note is what inspired me to think it might be doable!! The At&T Note i have is working fine with Simple Mobile and picking up 4g all the way. the battery sucks anyways even with the At&T modem. Also, you guys should note that stationed in Kuwait and im using the At&T Note with T-mobile modem overseas and still working great. Yes i have 3G as they dont have 4G here. they funny thing is that i still shows 4G and run about 19Mbps in most places.
I can get the international SGIII in Kuwait for $250 16G unlocked (NICE RIGHT?) but when im home i use the Simple mobile network(T-mobile).
you can call it greed but i want to have 2GB RAM, LTE, T-mobile 4G and the ablity to use every network in the world
I hope someone can make this happen
The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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No one listens to me :'( thanks for the backup Fred. Haha
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To be fair, I never meant the International S3
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Product F(RED) said:
The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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I'm using the i9300 (International) on Straight Talk AT&T, which runs on AT&T's base network, and I get full HSPA+ (of course, no LTE). The i9300 runs on AT&T's bands, so if you used it on T-Mobile you'd only get EDGE (for now, because they're moving their network onto the same frequency as AT&T). If the T-Mobile version is indeed pentaband as I suspect, then unlocking it and using it on AT&T will give you the same data speeds as using the international version on AT&T.
After considering a number of things I've been led on deciding I'd probably want to get an S4 over the other currently available smartphones. I've held off because I had wanted a more premium feeling phone other than plastic, but I realize now I can easily buy an aluminum backing+bumper replacement to give it that look and feel.
Anyways now to the question part of it... I was preferring an unlocked device, but the Internationally sold i9505 and i9500 do not have faster than 3G in the US, or so I've read.
I'm not looking to get a specific phone service right away, for now I want a solid device I'll be happy with for some years to come. Mainly as a portable device with storage and apps, and a little down the road to use it as my mobile phone.
I need some confirmation, but from what I understand the T-Mobile version would probably be the best? Due to once unlocked you can use it on both T-Mobile, or AT&T with 4G/LTE speeds. Also I am led to believe the AT&T S4 does not have the right frequencies for T-Mobile 4G/LTE.
Aside the above wireless speed question, I'd like to know:
1. What would be the point in flashing the i9505/i9500 ROM on the T-Mobile version? To remove T-Mobile association more from the phone... boot screen/software?
2. Does T-Mobile actually sell their version of the S4 at full price, not linked to any plan? Will they provide an unlock code same day, assuming I don't use the free method posted publically. I'm dreading the possibility of having to jump through hoops.
Below I have summerized what I understand about a few non-carrier specific phones....
i9505: International LTE "not working in USA", quad core CPU.
i9500: International 8 core CPU, better GPU.
S4 Google Edition: 4G/LTE capabile, Quad Core CPU, No touchwiz, comes in white color only.
Anyways looking for S4 owner's knowledge, experience and opinions here!
if youre going to pay full price you might want to consider the LTE-A version aka snapdragon 800 version
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...1271471972?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3384ceb764
32gb+snapdragon 800
According to that auction, it says it wont have 4G/LTE in the US? "I'm a frequency noob" One of my concerns was having something I could use on either TMobile or AT&T so I have options... if I was just looking at a 3g phone and cpu power I could just do this, or the i9500 "8 cores".
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According to that auction, it says it wont have 4G/LTE in the US? "I'm a frequency noob" One of my concerns was having something I could use on either TMobile or AT&T so I have options... if I was just looking at a 3g phone and cpu power I could just do this, or the i9500 "8 cores".
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it gets hspa+ on tmobile and att it might be able to use LTE-A when tmobile and att add it to their networks
and the 8core isnt really 8 core its 4+4 = 4 low power 4 high power cores, only 1 pair of cores work at a time so its only quad core
Several threads say the 9505 can work on TMobile if you flash a compatible kernel but the 9500 is not compatible. With regard to AT&T vs. TMO compatibility, search for AWS mod. A T-Mobile salesman told me he got his girlfriend's AT&T phone to work on TMO network using that patch.
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My experience is that yes, I could buy the S4 from TMO without plan, just pre-paid with a small credit. I do not live in the US,and had no problem with documentation or payment. Of course it is full price.
What the sales person told me is they will give you an unlock code only after 3 months if you are using it, reloading credit I guess. This doesn't work at all for me, but unlocking is actually real easy with the Samsun embedded app. I bought the phone and tried, it worked immediately (if it doesn't you can hand it back and have it refunded, for the restocking fee of 50USD).
Recently I used the ROM code here from Jamal (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348272), to turn the M919 TMO into a i9505 Nexus. For me it is a massive improvement as I just cannot stand bloatware. It also free up much memory, and battery lasts longer.
The 9505 and 9500 will not get you LTE nor H+ on T-Mobile.
They will ONLY *possibly* get you 4G on AT&T.
The AT&T S4 is locked, yes. Your best bet is the T-Mobile S4.
You can flash 9505 ROMs on the T-Mobile version as well as some other ones.
Additionally, the development for the T-Mobile s4 is outstanding.
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How do the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy S4 compare to the T-Mobile S4?
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How do the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy S4 compare to the T-Mobile S4?
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cant use them on tmobile - cdma phones
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cant use them on tmobile - cdma phones
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I hear the Verizon S4 has a SIM card. Aren't SIM cards for GSM phones?
Hi,
I m also freq noob and as much as I have searched the forum I cannot find the answer...I have SGH-M919 TMO and I am using it in Serbia but have network problems: receiving missed call TXT msg from operator, dropping out of network and difficulty in reconnecting to home network (need restarting).
Since TMO version supports all bands what can be the problem that phone is acting like that?
It works fine when i m on the network...we dont have LTE here nor will we for some time...
Please some help/direction to the thread dealing with this kind of problem...
Thanks
I had a stock unlocked att s4 on T-Mobile getting LTE without any mods.
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Hey guys!
I have a note 3 and its EOL. I was waiting for a Note 5 but I guess I dont have time now. I like the S6 Edge but it does not have key features I want (expandable memory card, extra battery).
This leaves me back with the Note... What's the best way to get it Rooted for Verizon? Can I buy it from T-mobile / ATT Auto Root it then switch it over to Verizon? Thoughts?
The other variants don't have the right bands in them for Verizon. I believe your only option is to pick up a developers edition.
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The other variants don't have the right bands in them for Verizon. I believe your only option is to pick up a developers edition.
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Incorrect. They have the same bands for Sprint/Verizon/ATT/TMobile ect.. but IME's have been white listed and/or bands have been locked by the carriers. Global phones typically have all the bands necessary.
eskomo said:
Incorrect. They have the same bands for Sprint/Verizon/ATT/TMobile ect.. but IME's have been white listed and/or bands have been locked by the carriers. Global phones typically have all the bands necessary.
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Your statement is also incorrect in part, as the T-Mo and AT&T phones lack the CDMA radios required for Verizon.
dpoverlord said:
Hey guys!
I have a note 3 and its EOL. I was waiting for a Note 5 but I guess I dont have time now. I like the S6 Edge but it does not have key features I want (expandable memory card, extra battery).
This leaves me back with the Note... What's the best way to get it Rooted for Verizon? Can I buy it from T-mobile / ATT Auto Root it then switch it over to Verizon? Thoughts?
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You will need to get your phone unlocked first.
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You will need to get your phone unlocked first.
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I worked at VZW for 3 years in Tech Support. You can not take another phone from any other carrier (except the old Altel phones) and use it in Verizon with the exception of global phones with global sim cards. Verizon uses A-Key authentication which prevents taking a Verizon sim card and putting in a non-Verizon phone and using it. Verizon used CDMA unlike all the other carriers.
That really stinks, anything I can do on the Verizon Note 4?
Sorry, the Sprint Note 4 unlocked can run LTE on the TMobile network? Apparently it can be rooted and flash custom roms right? Sorry for obvious questions but Im ready to buy one and need to be sure.
Thanks!!
It can be unlocked, but will only work with 4G, not LTE, check the Note 4 questions tab on the sprint section, there was already a thread started a while back ago. T-Mobile will tell you it won't work though, but there are ways around it.
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I was under the impression that you'd actually have to change the modem firmware in order to get a domestic GSM unlock on a Sprint device, if the S5 was any indication. That's where it seems to be locked out.
Since the Note 4 was launched prior to Feb 15, 2015, it's very unlikely Sprint will ever bother with permitting any sort of domestic SIM unlock for it (international is another matter entirely), and that's before we get into the missing LTE bands for full T-Mobile compatibility.
That said, if someone does pull off a working DOMESTIC unlock (T-Mobile, AT&T, MVNOs thereof, etc.), I'd sure like to know about it!
How do you unlock it though?
I know this thread has probably fizzled out or not, but THERE IS a domestic unlock for Sprint Note 4 and all others. It is NOT FREE. However, if one would search and read you will find it. Full data and SMS works perfectly. I have 3 Sprint Note 4's on T-Mobile US.
Sorry if this has been discussed, couldn't find it in search. There are a couple unlocked tmo phones available locally for a bit of a discount, and I'm wondering if there are any significant issues with using one of these phones on Verizon?
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Sorry if this has been discussed, couldn't find it in search. There are a couple unlocked tmo phones available locally for a bit of a discount, and I'm wondering if there are any significant issues with using one of these phones on Verizon?
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I've always used a carrier model, but there's been times I've used Verizon on T-Mobile. They were primarily iPhones.
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I have an network unlocked At&t Note 8 that i just configured for VZW using its APN settings and it did not work. The At&t models have the same if not more radio bands than VZW so im not sure what the problem is.
The At&t Note 8 need to have CDMA radio inside in order to work on Verizon.
New galaxy's have a universal modem but will have parts turned off. If the phone is unlocked you can flash the correct modem or the unlocked forward and it should work.
AT&T Note on VZW
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I have an network unlocked At&t Note 8 that i just configured for VZW using its APN settings and it did not work. The At&t models have the same if not more radio bands than VZW so im not sure what the problem is.
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Hi did you ever get your AT&T Note 8 to work on VZW?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74087340&postcount=1