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ok so I have posted a few times about both apps, but seeing as some really cool watchfaces have come out that use smooth second hands, I wanted to make a video to show a comparison of graphic-intensive watches with inbetween frame animations running with both apps!
Devices shown are Samsung Galaxy S4 and Moto 360.
The awesome watchface shown is Jarvis 2.0.
In both cases, i have turned on all smooth seconds settings and tags for both apps #DWFSS# / {drss}.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zNhOSo818&feature=youtu.be
dangreene1 said:
ok so I have posted a few times about both apps, but seeing as some really cool watchfaces have come out that use smooth second hands, I wanted to make a video to show a comparison of graphic-intensive watches with inbetween frame animations running with both apps!
Devices shown are Samsung Galaxy S4 and Moto 360.
The awesome watchface shown is Jarvis 2.0.
In both cases, i have turned on all smooth seconds settings and tags for both apps #DWFSS# / {drss}.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zNhOSo818&feature=youtu.be
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Watchmaker freezes and force closes if a file like jarvice is being used. Just be careful.
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It used to. Works perfect since 2.4.0 release. You can see it working in the video!
Installed it to see what the fuss was about. I don't like any of the included watches, and unliker Facer it does push in-app purchases on you (want custom backgrounds? pay, want some of the "nicer" watches? pay). So that was a little offputting.
However, the smooth animation is indeed smoother than Facer's. I imported a few of my Facer watches, (and after paying $0.99 for the "Premium" unlock) changed the second hand rotation to smooth and it's almost like my real Bulova with its silky smooth animation. So I'm going to continue using it for the meantime
Can anyone comment on the battery life when using 50 fps?
Battery seems ok for me, btw thanks dangreene1 for pulling out this comparision.
I did some modification myself to further imphasize the time on Jarvis.
If someone need it, plz let me know and i will post my Jarvis version
That looks great. Please do share
Remove download link, credit go to Kuronosan
Tried it without editing, tried after editing it, tried deleting everything in WatchMaker and reimporting. No matter what I do, this comes up very messed up on the watch. My own and the others i've imported into WatchMaker work fine. Anything messed up with the file itself? or WatchMaker being crappy?
Just tried to import modified version on my watchmaker, everything works perfectly normal to me don't know what causing prob on yours
Max_Pain said:
Installed it to see what the fuss was about. I don't like any of the included watches, and unliker Facer it does push in-app purchases on you (want custom backgrounds? pay, want some of the "nicer" watches? pay). So that was a little offputting.
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Just do what I did and don't buy any watch packs - you can import 100's from FaceRepo anyhow - then you only pay $0.99 as a one-off for the full premium upgrade which also gives you weather, battery widgets and some backgrounds thrown in.
ChrisNee1988 said:
Can anyone comment on the battery life when using 50 fps?
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I find no difference in battery life between smooth and 1fps mode - very good overall.
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Tried it without editing, tried after editing it, tried deleting everything in WatchMaker and reimporting. No matter what I do, this comes up very messed up on the watch. My own and the others i've imported into WatchMaker work fine. Anything messed up with the file itself? or WatchMaker being crappy?
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The facer file works 80% in WatchMaker but breaks on the weather conditionals.
WatchMaker uses LUA for its expressions so the formatting is slightly different - try the link below for fixed weather formulas :
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1TawGl-CXYZlpZQjd0ZEZVY2c&usp=sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zN...ature=youtu.be
I watched the original video again and you really need to see it running on a real watch to appreciate the full difference in frame rate - it really is smooth as butter even on the Jarvis watch.
After trying both, I do agree Watchmaker is much smoother. Not sure about the battery life though.
Edit: How to import from FaceRepo or Facer files? .face and .zip files can work on the Watchmaker as well??
Update: It worked! Confirming .zip and .face can work on Watchmaker as well.
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The facer file works 80% in WatchMaker but breaks on the weather conditionals.
WatchMaker uses LUA for its expressions so the formatting is slightly different - try the link below for fixed weather formulas :
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1TawGl-CXYZlpZQjd0ZEZVY2c&usp=sharing
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Well the problem is the Jarvis 2.0 file is already a .watch file made for WatchMaker. It imports and looks fine om phone. No matter what i have tried x once i set the watch face on the watch, it's like the images are all jumbled so there are phantom red second and hour hands, and the layers arent in the right order and some layers seem to be missing. Something seriously wrong happens when sending to the watch that hasn't happened with other faces.
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Just re-import a second copy and send that instead.
I already explained i did that. As a matter of fact, every watch i try to import is messed up on the watch even though it looks fine on the phone. The only one working now is my Bulova face and the stock ones...
Going to try wiping everything for WatchMaker and reinstalling it.
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Oh ok apologies. Maybe try a file explorer for wear and clear the files on your watch?
WatchMaker is a piece of crap.
That's the short version. Long version? I uninstalled it from my phone. Used SD Maid to remove any leftovers. Manually deleted the entire BeautifulWatches folder. No WatchMaker or its files left on my phone. No WatchMaker available to select om watch.
Reinstall WatchMaker. Only import Jarvis 2.0 watch file. Looks fine on phone. Send to watch. Broken. Why?
Because WatchMaker isn't cleaning up the files in the watch itself. So i could see the face image from my Bulova face, see the face and dials from a Rolex face i had imported and deleted at some point yesterday, and some other images that don't belong to the Jarvis face. So until WatchMaker deletes all the files from old faces, this is an issue. And any other watch i import, it is broken on the watch for the same reason. The images being called by the XML are not corresponding to the images from that face file on the phone. And I'm back to Facer for the meantime.
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I agree that it should deal with the sync case where someone has done a manual wipe on the folder on their phone. But I am sure that workflow will be fixed soon.
other than that I am very happy to run all my watches at 50fps with similar battery life to the stock watch.
As an amateur programmer (Visual Studio, haven't tried Java yet), I saw the problem coming when I realized how WatchMaker imports the images. Rather than keep the unique IDs that Facer uses, it's always trying to go .img1, .img2, etc. If you only ever import watch faces and never delete them, you probably wouldn't encounter this problem.
But if you do import multiple watches, then delete some, then import more, you're going to have this problem. The solution is for WatchMaker to wipe all custom face resources from the watch every time you change faces, and then to send new files. The fact that it's not doing that, and instead only seems to send new files while keeping existing ones baffles my mind from a programming angle.
Anyone know who the dev is?
Watchmaker doesnt look like an amateur app to me.
As most have said above the watches look amazing. If there is an issue im sure the dev will fix it. Facer fixed around 20 bugs in the last update so all apps have bugs.
Hey guys,
I had Facer running great and all of a sudden today when I look at my watch, all I see is a black face. When I long press on the screen, it brings up all the default Moto 360 watchfaces but not Facer.
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Facer as well as resyncing all apps from the Moto 360 app with no joy.
Anyone experiencing the same? Any hints on how to fix it?
Facer updated app to Android Wear 5.0
So I just took a look and as I had suspected, Facer recently updated via Google Play. The release notes state that Facer only works on Android Wear 5.0 ... WTF?
I see that I am on 4.4 with no option to upgrade. Any suggestions?
Downgrade facer or wait for 5.0 . They jumped the gun and pushed publish button too soon which sucks.
It's android WEAR 5.0, on your watch not on your phone...
We will get the update to your watch starting tonight
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llcooljayce said:
So I just took a look and as I had suspected, Facer recently updated via Google Play. The release notes state that Facer only works on Android Wear 5.0 ... WTF?
I see that I am on 4.4 with no option to upgrade. Any suggestions?
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Anyone have the Facer version before this one, the apk for it anyway.
Edit: Screw it, had some Play Store credit and bought Watchmaker.
Just got another update, and Facer is working again. (still didn't get the Android Wear update, just facer)
EDIT: Nevermind... I just got a "Facer has stopped working" message on the 360, and my watch face is blank. Rebooted 360, and it does the same after a few minutes. Will go back to a stock face until my 360 gets updated.
it should be back up.. there was an update today that only supported android wear 5.0.. i installed it and facer disappeared.. later in the day another update appeared.. this fixed it...
just try to change the watch face to something else and back to your current one..
Hi Guys!
Just purchased the steel band version of the SW3 and it should be here next week! Really excited as this is my first smartwatch and also got it at a decent price too!
Anyway, just wondering about the following:
Is there a special app store for watch only apps?
How do I go about downloading new watch faces?
Is the type of screen used prone to screen burn?
Exactly how waterproof is this watch in Metres?
Thanks
Is there a special app store for watch only apps?
No, you just use the Play store, although there are apps that act as android wear stores.
How do I go about downloading new watch faces?
Use a program like watchmaker or facer and the facerepo website, personally I think watchmaker is better than facer.
Is the type of screen used prone to screen burn?
I haven't noticed any and I think it is unlikely.
Exactly how waterproof is this watch in Metres?
Not sure although I take mine swimming every day and wear it in the jacuzzi, steam room and shower and haven't noticed any problems.
Enjoy your new awesome watch, I am jealous that you have the steel strap, can't wait until Sony sort their act out and release the straps separately!
Joachim Winter said:
Is there a special app store for watch only apps?
No, you just use the Play store, although there are apps that act as android wear stores.
How do I go about downloading new watch faces?
Use a program like watchmaker or facer and the facerepo website, personally I think watchmaker is better than facer.
Is the type of screen used prone to screen burn?
I haven't noticed any and I think it is unlikely.
Exactly how waterproof is this watch in Metres?
Not sure although I take mine swimming every day and wear it in the jacuzzi, steam room and shower and haven't noticed any problems.
Enjoy your new awesome watch, I am jealous that you have the steel strap, can't wait until Sony sort their act out and release the straps separately!
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Cheers! I do have an android wear app ready on my phone...it's the Google one but unsure as to what it will actually do lol.
Hmmmm cheers! And these apps just push the faces to the watch do they?
Brilliant! Does the screen stay on all the time then but just dimly lit...or is it off until you carry out an action to make it show the time?
That's what I like to hear! Just I always wear my watches in the shower etc. and going on holiday soon so wanted to make sure it could be used in the pool...thanks for confirming it can be .
Yeah I wouldn't have gotten the normal rubber strap model, only do metal watches but so odd they have released the metal strap model but not the actual strap on it's own atm :-/ what's all that about!!?
The android wear app syncs your phone with your watch, and yeah watchmaker allows you to make watchfaces or download them and then it syncs them to your watch. The screen dims but still sows some elements of your watchface, with watchmaker you can decide which elements remain visible in the dimmed mode, and then the watchface turns on fully when you raise your wrist to look at the watch.
Sony are run by muppets apparently, I would throw money at them to have different straps if I could!!!!!!!
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The android wear app syncs your phone with your watch, and yeah watchmaker allows you to make watchfaces or download them and then it syncs them to your watch. The screen dims but still sows some elements of your watchface, with watchmaker you can decide which elements remain visible in the dimmed mode, and then the watchface turns on fully when you raise your wrist to look at the watch.
Sony are run by muppets apparently, I would throw money at them to have different straps if I could!!!!!!!
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Ahhhh got you! Sure it will all become perfectly clear once i get the watch and pair it to my phone though .
Ooooo good that there's that level of customisation! That's where the question about screen burn came into this....I didn't want it showing anything when I'm not looking at it, assuming I can have it so the screen is off until I raise the watch?
Haha most of these companies are! They're releasing the straps soon though aren't they?
I used both facer and watchmaker, and I would go with watchmaker. It seems more stable.
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fr0st420 said:
I used both facer and watchmaker, and I would go with watchmaker. It seems more stable.
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Its worth noting that the faces made with FACER and WATCHMAKER make the cards behave differently to the standalone watchfaces.
I no longer use facer and watchmaker for this reason...
senectus said:
Its worth noting that the faces made with FACER and WATCHMAKER make the cards behave differently to the standalone watchfaces.
I no longer use facer and watchmaker for this reason...
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Can you clarify what facer and watchmaker do to the cards. I am desperately in search of away to stop them from waking the screen up from ambient mode. I like the vibration as a notification but I do not need anyone around me reading the notification. It is an invasion of privacy. I would simply like to retrieve the cards when I want to. I have both facer and watchmaker and have not noticed any difference with reference to cards or notifications
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Can you clarify what facer and watchmaker do to the cards. I am desperately in search of away to stop them from waking the screen up from ambient mode. I like the vibration as a notification but I do not need anyone around me reading the notification. It is an invasion of privacy. I would simply like to retrieve the cards when I want to. I have both facer and watchmaker and have not noticed any difference with reference to cards or notifications
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hmm Its a bit hard to explain, but its very similiar to what you're seeing.
I'll show a video when i get a moment..
senectus said:
Its worth noting that the faces made with FACER and WATCHMAKER make the cards behave differently to the standalone watchfaces.
I no longer use facer and watchmaker for this reason...
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Ahhhh right! Think I leave that then and just use the standard ones, it's coming tomorrow so can't wait to get playing around with it!
sheppy1 said:
Ahhhh right! Think I leave that then and just use the standard ones, it's coming tomorrow so can't wait to get playing around with it!
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Yay it came today!
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how do I find out which apps are feeding info into the watch? e.g I download 500px to get the watch faces from it and after i installed it on my phone the watch faces appeared on my watch...good, that's what I wanted but there is no way I'd have known that it had been configured to work with the smart watch unless I intentionally installed it knowing that.
What I mean is if I install a bunch of apps onto my phone that I don't want to push across info to my watch then how do I know if they're going to do this and how do I stop them?
Yay
My current fav watch face:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.roadster
http://i.imgur.com/tiMuMeK.jpg
Has a great dim mode too with clear digital numbers that show up easy when dimmed
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Download Wear App Manager. The upcoming 5.1 release will show recently installed apps too. But til then this app does the trick
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My current fav watch face:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.roadster
http://i.imgur.com/tiMuMeK.jpg
Has a great dim mode too with clear digital numbers that show up easy when dimmed
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Looks very old skool hehe. I'm currently loving the 500px digital screen that changes the wallpaper every time you look at it
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Download Wear App Manager. The upcoming 5.1 release will show recently installed apps too. But til then this app does the trick
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Perfect thank you! I'd settled with an app drawer tab for the SW3 apps because I use nova launcher but this wear app manager looks miles better fingers crossed we get 5.1 update too eh!
simple question, how many watch faces do you have and how did you decide on your 'daily' watch face? How many do you have in rotation or do you stick to just one?
wulfie66 said:
simple question, how many watch faces do you have and how did you decide on your 'daily' watch face? How many do you have in rotation or do you stick to just one?
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used nearly 400 faces via Watchmaker and finally settled to Stock one
I have five third party faces but once I found one I really like I've stuck with it for about 6 months now.
Read it: https://www.topgizmo.com/11-best-moto-360-apps-and-faces/
2,235 faces. Random face used.
Hello together,
I've updated the new lest MI fit app (4.0.8) and updated also the firmware of my MI band 4 (1.0.6.12).
Now I can't change my watchfaces which I downloaded in the app "MiBand4 - Watchfaces"
Before the update everything worked fine..
Does anyone has a solution?
Backup your watch faces, uninstall Mi Fit, install 4.0.7 version, do not update it If you want animated watch faces, you probably need to downgrade FW as well (N&F app might help here).
More detailed guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/miband/comments/d0fxw6/mi_band_4_no_more_custom_watchfaces/
Or you can just use N&F for watch face upload and wait for Mi Fit fix (which hopefully won't take too long)..
Thank you
Actually there is no need for FW downgrade, watch faces/FW still support animations, animation speed just has to be at least "4" (at least with the watch face I tried to modify). Authors of broken watch faces will probably fix them sooner or later.
Please see the solution - https://www.reddit.com/r/miband/com...ifit/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
remix92 said:
Hello together,
I've updated the new lest MI fit app (4.0.8) and updated also the firmware of my MI band 4 (1.0.6.12).
Now I can't change my watchfaces which I downloaded in the app "MiBand4 - Watchfaces"
Before the update everything worked fine..
Does anyone has a solution?
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There was an update this morning to the MiBand4 watchface app. See if it works now.