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adding watch faces on the Sony Smartwatch 2

can any of the app developers for Sony Smartwatch (2) tell me if it's possible to add watch faces to the watch?
the digital one on the SW2 is really too simple, with just the time showing, it really needs at least the date to be added

Hmm...I think you missed there a several choices built in to the watch. Go to the settings app on the watch scroll down and you will see the option to change the watch faces. Some include the date

But they aren't digital.

exactly, there are 4 "analog" watch faces and 1 digital and i want a digital one with date
what i really want to know is, can only Sony add watch faces?

Other developers can, although I don't know if they can do the proper "always on" effect. There is an app in the store now which claims to add more faces, although it isn't yet "optimised" for the SW2. For me though it just crashes on startup.

It seems its built into the firmware ... watch faces on the market are just WApps, they burn far too much battery to be useful IMO.
If we can hack the firmware, i'm fairly sure we can make our own watch faces, but i've no idea where you can even download the firmware to start with, let alone modding it.
Im interested how the display works, does anyone have proper info on this ? It looks to me like the display has two parts to it. one being the monochrome traditional style LCD and the other being the colour LCD ... or am i barking up the wrong tree ?

it's a transflective LCD, without backlight in low light its hardly readable, but in direct sunlight it reflects light in a certain way so it gets readable again
inside you can ofcourse use the backlight

Hello
So does this mean there is no way to have custom watchfaces that are always on. Like on the pebble?
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TulpiX said:
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So does this mean there is no way to have custom watchfaces that are always on. Like on the pebble?
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At this time, yes.
As an owner of one myself I'm not too bothered by that fact. I've actually found the black analog face to look quite nice on the device - and I'm picky about my watch faces. My only complaint about the watch faces though is the fact that the digital watch face does not include a date/day indicator - it just displays the time.

Thanks for your answer.
I find this a little disappointing.
Always found that the ability to change watchfaces makes a smartwatch so interesting (next to notificationsbof course)
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i've tweeted something nice to @SonyXperia
any decent digital watch can show a time AND date, and a smartwatch can't?

Hi,
I was looking for the same thing: A digital watchface with at least the date. I was personally a bit disappointed with he analog watchface as is not nearly as sharp as on the picture that are used as publicity.
I found that the first smartwatch had such as watchface), but I'm not sure if this SW can be installed on the Smartwatch 2.

Me too....
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I notice on the box it shows a digital clockface with day and date....this isn't available on the watch itself!! Good grief, In this respect its a step back from the old one!

This is when graphics win over functionality
Still you must admit that this is a beautiful watch compared to the first version plastic thingy...
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please retweet this if you have a twitter account
https://twitter.com/JarlSX/status/388703033510469632

i never saw the date/time thing on the box, made a photo and tweeted it, please retweet
https://twitter.com/JarlSX/status/388987475953459200

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We can have more watchfaces but we have to pay for.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=SMARTWATCH&c=apps&hl=EN

There is a similar discussion going on on the Sony Forum, entiltled "SmartWatch 2 - shake to highlight?, battery life?" (as a fairly new user I can not post an external link here yet).
Thommo writes:
I'm almost pretty sure that the watch in that video is a 1st production demo which had that feature on it - After looking round other sites which have tested the watch after official release this feature was removed apparently due to battery life as the watch would always be on thus battery life would not be that long, I'd like to also point out that on the demo versions there were more clock faces and a walkman widget - The walkman widget as far as I'm led to believe had a pixelation problem and was removed although the packaging still has an image of the widget on it
I'm curious to see if these functionalities will be brought back in as they are clearly printed on the box of the watch.

Smooth Running WatchFaces: 30+ FPS

I can definitely recommend WatchMaker if you are looking for a dramatically smoother frame rate.
Today I imported a bunch of designs (including boostr, etc) into Watchmaker, changed the rotation tags to {drss} for smooth turning … and they run like liquid on Moto360.
Warning: if you do import the faces, you may need to do what I did and fix up a couple of conditional tags but you can PM me for help if you need.
No problems with the battery life so far, but I will report back.

I can't seem to get this to work.
Whenever I try and send to my Moto360 it doesn't change.
I just get a blue background with a digital clock no matter what face is selected.
I've checked that I've selected Watchmaker as my watch face....
Facer works without issue.

Simple solution for your prob. Choose any current watchface availabe at "Hot watches" face, and let's it loaded to your moto360 successfully first. Then try apply your own modified/ imported faces, work smooth as butter bro.

Customize watch faces with Connect app, coming soon!

Haha suck it G watch R!
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/11/moto-360-choose-watch-that-fits-your.html

Nice update

The update work for anyone? I got it but have been unable to set any of the new faces to the watch. They don't show up. Maybe something screwy with my oneplus....
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I have it and it is working. You may need to give it a few minutes for the new faces to be transferred to the watch. They appear just like the original stock faces.
It is nice to have the award winning Moto but it is a shame they didn't add any of the additional features such as weather or battery percentage. I think the clone of the face that boostr29 did for facer is still nicer. The Motorola face likely uses much less battery power though. Wear 2.0 should let people create much more involved faces that can display more information such as unread email etc.

If you havn't got the update yet or want to see what they are like, I took a photo of all the new watch faces:
http://imgur.com/a/XJXT5
Pascuals a favourite, I'm sure the My Design will be better in time... It won't be good for anything beyond casual usage though - you need to crop the image for it yourself, and the ticker hands you can't customize outside of the preset options they have.

Yeah, the My Design is quite limited for now, and you can't set large preview cards on it. But at least there's now the option/toggle to add the date to all of the other watchfaces too, which is handy.
Generally this is a bit of an odd update, as it just adds Moto Body features that replicate existing Fit ones, except for Calories. Now we have again the typical Android mess of duplicated features, despite Google's efforts to control Wear.

I dont understand how anyone can use a white face. That flat tire looks terrible. I always run a black face, so its not too noticable.

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The update work for anyone? I got it but have been unable to set any of the new faces to the watch. They don't show up. Maybe something screwy with my oneplus....
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Same here

APeaceofStrange said:
Same here
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Try to restart the watch. It worked after I did a restart.

Same issue here. I've restarted the watch, reset the watch, uninstalled and reinstalled both Android Wear and the Connect app. None of the new apps or watch faces will show up on the watch.

I just wish the date option was a bigger font. My old eyes have a hard time seeing it.
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The app is a ton of fun, hopefully they continue to expand it. I have several pictures that work great with the DIY watch face.

Yeah I'm loving this, the custom pictures are nice and hi resolution!

Thx for sharing. Had moto connect app disabled.

How are u guys getting the update? I don't see it on playstore?
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Nvm. Odd. I had to search for the app and then it said update. Would not show up automatically.

My phone wouldn't find Connect update (kept telling me Connect was up to date)
On my PC, I visited -> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.targetnotif while it said installed, when I clicked the Install button I was able to pick my Moto X, and click OK.. After that, the X notified me of the app downloading and installing. I now have the update.

Seems like the best faces are the one's that create the illusion of a round face by having some sort of inner circle that is not disrupted by the flat tire look. Basically you tune it out since all the major eye candy is above it, only the tiny hash marks are broken which you barely notice anyway. Having a full white face or roman numerals makes it very obvious there is a screen break at the bottom.

L_E_O said:
Same issue here. I've restarted the watch, reset the watch, uninstalled and reinstalled both Android Wear and the Connect app. None of the new apps or watch faces will show up on the watch.
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I'm facing the same problem as well. It finally worked for me after I uninstall android wear, moto connect, facer and watch maker. Reset moto 360 and reinstall android wear and moto connect and the new watch face appears.

teslapolaris said:
I'm facing the same problem as well. It finally worked for me after I uninstall android wear, moto connect, facer and watch maker. Reset moto 360 and reinstall android wear and moto connect and the new watch face appears.
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I wound up having to reset the Moto X altogether. Somehow, I think swapping between a work-week phone (Note 4) and a weekend phone (Moto X) got some apps stuck on the watch that weren't on either phone anymore. When I reset the Moto X and then reset the 360, it stared to work correctly.

Too bad beelink dont work anymore else can easily switch devices with the watch.
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[Q] Watch faces - How many

For those lucky enough to have their watch. How many watch faces are there pre loaded?

There are 18 watch faces pre loaded on the watch.

Watch Faces
although, will there be many more like i've seen on XDA for the MOTO360?

Ok got my ZW yesterday. I have to say, I love the build and the design...what's disappointing is that I can't use any of the third party apps to build a watch face. I've tried two diff apps and nothing will push the design to the watch. It appears that the ZW manager is preventing any third party designs to come thru. IF THIS IS TRUE, and Asus doesn't open up the design api this would be a deal breaker for me. I know this is a small thing, but its to restrictive considering that ALL of the other AW watches support third party apps. UGH!

jimi_pooh said:
Ok got my ZW yesterday. I have to say, I love the build and the design...what's disappointing is that I can't use any of the third party apps to build a watch face. I've tried two diff apps and nothing will push the design to the watch. It appears that the ZW manager is preventing any third party designs to come thru. IF THIS IS TRUE, and Asus doesn't open up the design api this would be a deal breaker for me. I know this is a small thing, but its to restrictive considering that ALL of the other AW watches support third party apps. UGH!
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I used Facer just fine... maybe something is wrong with your connection between your watch and phone?

Nickyro23 said:
I used Facer just fine... maybe something is wrong with your connection between your watch and phone?
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Thanks, that was the one I hadn't tried yet and was going to next. Do the faces show up in the ZW manager?

jimi_pooh said:
Thanks, that was the one I hadn't tried yet and was going to next. Do the faces show up in the ZW manager?
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No, only use the facer app... facerepo.com has a bunch of user made faces that are decent. Some aren't designed for the ZW though, so they won't look right. Trial and error. When downloading, download directly to the facer app. Should pop up giving you that option when you press download. What were the apps you were using that didn't work?

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No, only use the facer app... facerepo.com has a bunch of user made faces that are decent. Some aren't designed for the ZW though, so they won't look right. Trial and error. When downloading, download directly to the facer app. Should pop up giving you that option when you press download. What were the apps you were using that didn't work?
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I tried WatchMaker and AndroidWearWatch

jimi_pooh said:
I tried WatchMaker and AndroidWearWatch
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Cool thanks

"Luxury Watch Faces", "Wear Face Collection" and "Intellicom Watchfaces" have all worked for me.

dgjenkins said:
"Luxury Watch Faces", "Wear Face Collection" and "Intellicom Watchfaces" have all worked for me.
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How are they as far as affecting battery life on the watch?

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How are they as far as affecting battery life on the watch?
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I've only had the watch for two days now so it's hard to tell. Honestly, although I've downloaded and tested other watch face apps, I'm using the "explorer" face that comes with the zenwatch stock app. I have it always on, with steps and battery for both watch and phone showing. Lowest intensity on the screen is more than bright enough.
First day was a 16 hour day and I put it back on the charger with about 30% left. Yesterday was 14 or 15 hours with about the same left. I get tons of notifications and yesterday used the notifications while using navigation (that works well).
All I care about is getting through the day on a charge and it's doing that nicely, so I'm happy.

The nice thing about the included watch faces is that they were all built with the included first-party watchface API, unlike the ones in the Moto 360. So the cards behave nicely mostly hidden and transparent at the bottom, rather than taking up half the screen.

dgjenkins said:
I've only had the watch for two days now so it's hard to tell. Honestly, although I've downloaded and tested other watch face apps, I'm using the "explorer" face that comes with the zenwatch stock app. I have it always on, with steps and battery for both watch and phone showing. Lowest intensity on the screen is more than bright enough.
First day was a 16 hour day and I put it back on the charger with about 30% left. Yesterday was 14 or 15 hours with about the same left. I get tons of notifications and yesterday used the notifications while using navigation (that works well).
All I care about is getting through the day on a charge and it's doing that nicely, so I'm happy.
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Thanks! Yea I may stick with the stock watch faces too. I actually like them a lot.

Berzerker7 said:
The nice thing about the included watch faces is that they were all built with the included first-party watchface API, unlike the ones in the Moto 360. So the cards behave nicely mostly hidden and transparent at the bottom, rather than taking up half the screen.
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The Facer faces have worked for me with no change to the way notifications are handled. I use the square face watch faces that were designed for the LG G Watch with a few modifications the the ratios for the screen size diff.

Intellicom WatchMaker works sort-of. If you have rooted/modified your phone, apparently you cannot update to v5.01 on the watch, which is required (5.0 anyway) for the latest version to work. Their version 1.11 works with 4.4W2, but of course, some of the new features are not present.

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If you have rooted/modified your phone, apparently you cannot update to v5.01 on the watch
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I don't think that's the case. My watch updated to 5.0.1 automatically, and my phone is rooted and otherwise messed with.

jimi_pooh said:
The Facer faces have worked for me with no change to the way notifications are handled. I use the square face watch faces that were designed for the LG G Watch with a few modifications the the ratios for the screen size diff.
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Hi,
can you tell me what ratios you modified to get the square watch faces to work with the zenwatch?? its not centered on mine..
Thanks

bustanut666 said:
Hi,
can you tell me what ratios you modified to get the square watch faces to work with the zenwatch?? its not centered on mine..
Thanks
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Change the res to 320 x 320. If things are supposed to be center on the horizontal axis then put 160 for x, if center on vertical axis then 160 for y. Sometimes the size of the element needs to be changed as well, I usually set them two to three sizes up. Just play around with it and after making changes look at the face in the app and see if it aligns properly and such.

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Change the res to 320 x 320. If things are supposed to be center on the horizontal axis then put 160 for x, if center on vertical axis then 160 for y. Sometimes the size of the element needs to be changed as well, I usually set them two to three sizes up. Just play around with it and after making changes look at the face in the app and see if it aligns properly and such.
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Hi,
can you tell me what ratios you modified to get the square watch faces to work with the zenwatch?? its not centered on mine..
Thanks
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He hit on the head @bustanut666

Classic Watchface : settings cog not there !

I have a Xperia XZ Premium, and also of course a Smartwatch 3 which work fine.
About a week ago my wife wanted to upgrade from her Xperia Z5 and so I bought her a Xperia XZ Premium to match mine. and all was fine until we came to try and alter the Classic Face !
As has been mentioned on here the "steps" no longer work, so all we did was change the three widgets, so we had 'battery level', 'date' and 'week number' and my wife wanted to do the same on her nice new phone
But she CAN'T.... for a start there is no little 'cog; in the middle of the watch face so I changed to another face and clicked on the 3 dots on the Classic Face, where the option to get the "settings" was there but when you click on this it tried to connect with Google Play to download the settings from somewhere but fails so obviously the app for that is missing !
So - no steps... and now you can't adjust/change anything like the widgets I have just mentioned, colours or anything else.... why, just why ?????
My still works OK, and I have removed and reinstalled Wear OS a few times on her phone but no joy
So whose fault is this ? Google messing with the OS ? or Sony not updating the watch face ? … or me for not being clever enough to work this out ?
Help please !
As my wife is driving me mad.. all she wants is the watch face she loves to be as she wants it … i.e. like mine !

Transfer app from you phone to hers
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So - no steps... and now you can't adjust/change anything like the widgets I have just mentioned, colours or anything else.... why, just why ?????
My still works OK, and I have removed and reinstalled Wear OS a few times on her phone but no joy
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It looks like the underlying app required to change to setting on the Smartwatch 3 has been removed from the Playstore. I've just upgraded my Xperia and spent ages trying to find it. Eventually, I resorted to using an app that lets me transfer apps from my old phone to my new one. I used SwitchIt, it's quick and easy, and I transferred 2 apps - SmartWatch and Watch Faces (not sure this one is required but the SmartWatch app is). Everything works fine now and I can configure the widgets no probs.

Many Thanks !
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It looks like the underlying app required to change to setting on the Smartwatch 3 has been removed from the Playstore. I've just upgraded my Xperia and spent ages trying to find it. Eventually, I resorted to using an app that lets me transfer apps from my old phone to my new one. I used SwitchIt, it's quick and easy, and I transferred 2 apps - SmartWatch and Watch Faces (not sure this one is required but the SmartWatch app is). Everything works fine now and I can configure the widgets no probs.[/QUOTE
Thanks for your reply, as they say better late than never
Seems like it was Sony's fault for removing the Smartwatch 3 App from the store !
We both LOVE our Smartwatch 3, and can't see any reason to 'upgrade' them as they foo everything we want...
Would be nice IF the brought out a Smartwatch 4, as we would certainly buy one !
I won't hold my breath though as they ditched laptops, then tablets and no sign of those coming back either, but my 3 'old' Sony laptops are all running fine on Windows 10 and my 4 Sony tablets are fine too despite no Android upgrades
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I can share the "Watch Faces for Smartwatch 3_v2.0.A.0.20.apk" if you still need it...