[Q] Fire Phone in Israel - Amazon Fire Phone

Hi,
Does anyone know if I would be able to use an Israeli SIM in the unlocked Fire Phone?
(the bands are there but I was wondering if anyone has real life experience)
Thanks!

If your carrier uses one of the bands the phone supports, you shouldn't have any issue with an unlocked phone.

It works just fine, gets LTE too on Youphone and Pelephone which are the ones I had a chance to test it on. Infact it even gets APNs automatically, like my Iphone does.
However, if you're thinking of buying this, I'm not sure if that's the best move. I've been using it for 2 weeks so far, bought it for 80$ just as a testing device, and though the device is fast, good size, decent camera, etc it has far too many quirks to truly be reliable in my opinion. Also, there's no Hebrew, at least not in the settings and UI, except for morelocale2 which changes the email and the google apps to it.
Doesn't bother me that much, but it can be a problem for some people.
Top 2 problems for me thus far-
1) You can't use Google's App Store with the newest Google Services- which means you can't have Youtube and the offical Gmail app working, and have a working app store. You have a choice: Either have a working app store and lose Youtube (replacing it with another youtube app works) and use a different email app then Gmail (offical amazon app works)
2- This is currently my biggest problem- Google Maps for me for some reason can't find a GPS fix even though Waze works fine. Big problem for me since I use Google Maps a lot when I'm abroad.
3- Keyboard- Google Keyboard doesn't allow Hebrew installed, you can't switch between languages due to some weird bug. You can only use the official Amazon Keyboard which does support Hebrew but has a very annoying way to switch between languages which I hate.
To conclude- this isn't a regular phone. It will probably never be a "regular phone". I would advise you to buy an LG G2 (or S4 if that's what you like), there's always good sales on them for 175$ brand new on ebay, they will give you better battery life, better screen, same processor, and best of all- peace of mind that every app you want will work 100%.
This is an Amazon phone, and they don't want you using it as a real android device.

it's works for me with Cellcom - without LTE
there is a cm11 for this phone

extremeblizz said:
It works just fine, gets LTE too on Youphone and Pelephone which are the ones I had a chance to test it on. Infact it even gets APNs automatically, like my Iphone does.
However, if you're thinking of buying this, I'm not sure if that's the best move. I've been using it for 2 weeks so far, bought it for 80$ just as a testing device, and though the device is fast, good size, decent camera, etc it has far too many quirks to truly be reliable in my opinion. Also, there's no Hebrew, at least not in the settings and UI, except for morelocale2 which changes the email and the google apps to it.
Doesn't bother me that much, but it can be a problem for some people.
Top 2 problems for me thus far-
1) You can't use Google's App Store with the newest Google Services- which means you can't have Youtube and the offical Gmail app working, and have a working app store. You have a choice: Either have a working app store and lose Youtube (replacing it with another youtube app works) and use a different email app then Gmail (offical amazon app works)
2- This is currently my biggest problem- Google Maps for me for some reason can't find a GPS fix even though Waze works fine. Big problem for me since I use Google Maps a lot when I'm abroad.
3- Keyboard- Google Keyboard doesn't allow Hebrew installed, you can't switch between languages due to some weird bug. You can only use the official Amazon Keyboard which does support Hebrew but has a very annoying way to switch between languages which I hate.
To conclude- this isn't a regular phone. It will probably never be a "regular phone". I would advise you to buy an LG G2 (or S4 if that's what you like), there's always good sales on them for 175$ brand new on ebay, they will give you better battery life, better screen, same processor, and best of all- peace of mind that every app you want will work 100%.
This is an Amazon phone, and they don't want you using it as a real android device.
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Since you already have the phone, try following the tutorial in my signature. I don't think it will solve the Hebrew problem, but it should solve the rest of your complaints (although maybe not Google Maps GPS. I'm not sure what's happening there). You can put the working Play Store on the phone, with everything that comes with it. I'm watching a YouTube video right now.

extremeblizz said:
Google Maps for me for some reason can't find a GPS fix even though Waze works fine. Big problem for me since I use Google Maps a lot when I'm abroad.
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Hmm, the Fire Phone supports A-GPS & Glonass (also Cell ID and Wi-Fi positioning). Waze was developed in Israel, so it has to work there.
I only changed the location mode to "device only" and used FasterGPS to set my country.
I get "3D Fix" within seconds when tested with GPS Test Plus. Accuracy is around 3 - 4 meters, good enough for car navigation.
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Excellent review ! Helped me a lot! thx!
Thx for a very thorough review, saved me from buying one, and for me also, hebrew in general is not a problem system wise, but, need a hebrew keyboard, so, goodbye fire !
extremeblizz said:
It works just fine, gets LTE too on Youphone and Pelephone which are the ones I had a chance to test it on. Infact it even gets APNs automatically, like my Iphone does.
However, if you're thinking of buying this, I'm not sure if that's the best move. I've been using it for 2 weeks so far, bought it for 80$ just as a testing device, and though the device is fast, good size, decent camera, etc it has far too many quirks to truly be reliable in my opinion. Also, there's no Hebrew, at least not in the settings and UI, except for morelocale2 which changes the email and the google apps to it.
Doesn't bother me that much, but it can be a problem for some people.
Top 2 problems for me thus far-
1) You can't use Google's App Store with the newest Google Services- which means you can't have Youtube and the offical Gmail app working, and have a working app store. You have a choice: Either have a working app store and lose Youtube (replacing it with another youtube app works) and use a different email app then Gmail (offical amazon app works)
2- This is currently my biggest problem- Google Maps for me for some reason can't find a GPS fix even though Waze works fine. Big problem for me since I use Google Maps a lot when I'm abroad.
3- Keyboard- Google Keyboard doesn't allow Hebrew installed, you can't switch between languages due to some weird bug. You can only use the official Amazon Keyboard which does support Hebrew but has a very annoying way to switch between languages which I hate.
To conclude- this isn't a regular phone. It will probably never be a "regular phone". I would advise you to buy an LG G2 (or S4 if that's what you like), there's always good sales on them for 175$ brand new on ebay, they will give you better battery life, better screen, same processor, and best of all- peace of mind that every app you want will work 100%.
This is an Amazon phone, and they don't want you using it as a real android device.
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Related

How to get the best experience for Android. Tips and advice here :)

This thread will be dedicated for people posting about things they have done to improve the experience of using Android on their device.
I'll start of by posting some already known but may be new to new users.
In spare parts turn off animations and speed of transistion of windows. This should make navigating faster.
By doing this it should also automatically turn it off in the settings app.
Based upon your needs you can change how many apps may be open at any given time.
Dark Man X: i set in dev-tools (development settings) a process limit to 3 apps, now my diamond is much more stable and smooth
maybe someone helps who doesnt know this feature (like me)
Also first boot is always sluggish due to Android setting up everything. After you see the homescreen you should give it a good 5 minutes to settle in. Then reboot and reload haret again. You should notice the system is now more responsive and smooth.
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babijoee said:
This thread will be dedicated for people posting about things they have done to improve the experience of using Android on their device.
I'll start of by posting some already known but may be new to new users.
In spare parts turn off animations and speed of transistion of windows. This should make navigating faster.
By doing this it should also automatically turn it off in the settings app.
Based upon your needs you can change how many apps may be open at any given time.
Dark Man X: i set in dev-tools (development settings) a process limit to 3 apps, now my diamond is much more stable and smooth
maybe someone helps who doesnt know this feature (like me)
Also first boot is always sluggish due to Android setting up everything. After you see the homescreen you should give it a good 5 minutes to settle in. Then reboot and reload haret again. You should notice the system is now more responsive and smooth.
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When I restricted the process limit to 3 or even 4 apps in development settings I found that my exchange email started messing up. I could open the message list, but couldn't actually get an email to open. It kept closing out to the home screen. Removing the limit brought it good again. Was repeatable by selecting and removing limits. This is on a DIA100.
robh1234 said:
When I restricted the process limit to 3 or even 4 apps in development settings I found that my exchange email started messing up. I could open the message list, but couldn't actually get an email to open. It kept closing out to the home screen. Removing the limit brought it good again. Was repeatable by selecting and removing limits. This is on a DIA100.
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probally recommended for light users of android.
eg texting, phone, web and music.
Mr.Sir said:
It works great except for:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. It literally EATS my battery and heats up the device a lot more than winmo. It's even a bit warm in hibernate.
I have no stability, lag or other animation issues. Fix those two points and we won't even need winmo anymore, except for booting android
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please read the topic before posting. we know this already, back onto topic.
I turned off auto-rotate display under display settings, this increased speed for screen tilts and removes the instability with launcher pro when extending/closing the hw keyboard. Eq no more force quit on launcher-pro when doing tilt+extend keyboard or.
Seems like launcher pro get's dual inputs both sensor and physical keyboard extend.
You will lose the auto landscape if keyboard is not extented, byt I never use landscape without keyboard anyway.
XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo 1.7.10 Beta
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CeasarRAPH100 said:
You will lose the auto landscape if keyboard is not extented, byt I never use landscape without keyboard anyway.
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Yup, which is why it's really not a big deal to turn off that rotation sensor feature
CeasarRAPH100 said:
I turned off auto-rotate display under display settings, this increased speed for screen tilts and removes the instability with launcher pro when extending/closing the hw keyboard.
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Im new To android on my verizon touch pro and my main complaint was how it would freeze trying to rotate all the time. I just tried this tip and now it is way more smooth.
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Android 2.2b2
Verizon touch pro cdma
Screen of death / SoD work around
This may be device dependent (it might or it might not work for your device) but you can download batterybooster; free download from market and the website HERE
Once you've installed it, run the application and look for the icon that looks like a sun, far right hand corner, and tap it. Set it to Never and it should never time out! Keep in mind, this work around circumvents the automatic back lgiht feature. So, you will need to manually turn off the screen (usually power key). The intent of this work around is to have the screen to remain ALWAYS on.
Additionally, if you haven't already enabled the installation from unknown sources, when you run the .apk, Android should walk you through this process. Also, if you are installing this from the market, it won't hurt to set the automatic screen off to greater than 10 minutes.
n-Joie! (Enjoy)
Good read!
Some interesting reading on THIS site; specifically for devs and ROM builders.
nueDriverProject is a project to eventually rewrite all existing HTC drivers in C to aid in optimization and other efforts.
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i cannot find stk menu on xdandroid and anyone knows how to install stk service?
reker said:
i cannot find stk menu on xdandroid and anyone knows how to install stk service?
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stk menu? stk service?
Please, explain more - I have not a clue what you are talking about.
stk = stock maybe Or are you talking about the SDK? Two entirely different trains of thought there, my friend. Also, which version are you running? There are quite a few out there as we speak!
Do, get back with us when you can!
arrrghhh said:
stk menu? stk service?
Please, explain more - I have not a clue what you are talking about.
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STK=SIM TOOL KIT
see wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_Application_Toolkit
the sim card sell in china contain a built-in menu and it can perform some predefined functions, such as get the weather forecast or news thru sms, watch how many contacts the sim card can store, change my password of the sim, blablabla
in winmo, the stk service is built-in the rom, the service name is STK_Service, the filename is STK_Service.dll and i can access stk menu by running STK_UIPPC.exe
but in xandroid, i cannot find a useable stk service installer, i searched and found a stk.apk but i cannot install it on xandroid, when i try to intall it, it just tells me the application cannot be installed.
i noticed that the official android has included stk (com.android.stk can be found in /system/app/) but xandroid not include it
so.. does anyone know how to install it?
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reker said:
STK=SIM TOOL KIT
see wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_Application_Toolkit
the sim card sell in china contain a built-in menu and it can perform some predefined functions, such as get the weather forecast or news thru sms, watch how many contacts the sim card can store, change my password of the sim, blablabla
in winmo, the stk service is built-in the rom, the service name is STK_Service, the filename is STK_Service.dll and i can access stk menu by running STK_UIPPC.exe
but in xandroid, i cannot find a useable stk service installer, i searched and found a stk.apk but i cannot install it on xandroid, when i try to intall it, it just tells me the application cannot be installed.
i noticed that the official android has included stk (com.android.stk can be found in /system/app/) but xandroid not include it
so.. does anyone know how to install it?
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This is outside of the scope of XDAndroid, it seems to be carrier-specific. We try to support all carriers, but that doesn't mean we can support every single function of every single carrier.
Stick to WinMo if this is a problem for you, or figure out how to get the apk working and let everyone know how you did it .
no, it's not carrier-specific, in fact, near half of carriers in the world use stk.
stk is supported by official android and the source of stk.apk could be found at packages/apps/stk in the android source code, but it cannot be installed on xdandroid
reker said:
no, it's not carrier-specific, in fact, near half of carriers in the world use stk.
stk is supported by official android and the source of stk.apk could be found at packages/apps/stk in the android source code, but it cannot be installed on xdandroid
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It is carrier-specific, and besides this is all for so-called 'value-added services'. You can't expect those to work on our port... If it's causing you grief either get a native Android device or go back to WinMo!!!!
@reker
It may not be supported by XDAndroid (the dev project) BUT it doesn't mean that you can not figure out how to support it and share this info. Keep in mind, ALL of this is made possible through the work and development of us, the members! If it was "so important" wouldn't you think that there would be support for it already?
GPS woes
At the moment, it has been reported that GPS does NOT work for Gingerbread. However, GPS should work in FroYo/FRX06(latest release to-date). It has been said that getting a lock(GPS lock) while in winmo, CAN reduce the length of time it takes to get a lock while in Android. Also, if you are running a ROM with QuickGPS, it is suggested to run it once before you run haret. This will also get a quicker GPS lock while in FroYo.

Visidon AppLock [Face Recognition AS Unlock Method]

Visidon AppLock v1.5
Requirements: Android 2.3+
Overview: Fast, convenient and cool way to protect your mobile with face recognition.
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Check Out Youtube tutorial :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FVWmeuj3T4
Protect any application (i.e. SMS, Gallery, E-Mail, Facebook, etc.) on your phone using face recognition. Convenient and cool way to increase safety of your private apps and content.
Visidon AppLock lets you choose the apps to be protected. Your face is a key to open them! Application uses the frontal camera of your mobile and verifies in real-time that the face matches the one allowed to access the private apps.
NOTES AND TIPS:
1. You must have a front facing camera in your device to use the face recognition feature. Otherwise it is disabled and you are only able to use password verification.
2. This application was developed and tested with Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 and Acer Iconia A500. User experience may vary with other devices due different hardware (e.g. camera etc.).
3. In addition to the applications you wish to protect, you should also add Visidon AppLock itself and any application that can be used to close or unistall applications or services (task manager, settings etc.) as well as any application that can be used to install new applications (market, myfiles etc.) to the protection list to get your mobile fully secured.
4. If the preview image is upside down or sideways, please try to set different camera orientations from the settings tab.
5. The default security level is medium. If it seems too low (i.e. other people can get in too easily), you can set it to maximum from the settings tab.
6. The most accurate recognition will be achieved when all the training images are taken directly from front (i.e. no profile images etc.). Also, you should take training images in different illuminations (in those environments where you usually use your mobile). Sufficient amount of images per person is about 5 to 10.
Freely available at Android Market:
Code:
https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock
Also Attached on my thread
Note:- I am not the developer of this software. I saw this application and I was so amazed with it. It is the only available face recognition for andriod and it works well. VisidonSupport is the developer of this software. He is now a member of XDA Developers.
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Awesome....
Just tried this, wifes face was able to unlock once out of 4 tries. I only have 4 pics in the database for it so that could be the cause, will test again tmrw but app functions fine, no force closes. Excellent app. If only you could implement this into the main lockscreen like samsung removed. Awesome work.
Sent from the Veyron of the phone world. The GS2!!!
Beautiful idea but aint unlocking the selected apps
Edit: working now
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I've tried this. Was quite slow sometimes and had to uninstall it.
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I can't find this in the Market??
Did not work, got a message saying i was to ugly..
Awesome app... works perfectly
If you could implement it into the lock screen it would be perfect
I tried this some more, i have now added 10 pictures to the app database and it seemed to be working fine BUT then my manager at work had a go and it unlocked first time! I really like this app and want it to work
How does the facial recognition work in this app?
1) Does it compare the live camera image accross ALL the stored pictures and only unlock if ALL the stored pictures match the live camera image?
OR
2) Does it look through the stored pictures and unlock if ANY ONE of the stored pictures match the live camera image?
@BillSplate, apparently Visidon AppLock does not shows in all Market provider. You have to set SIM Numeric value to :- 24491 [AMT Finland] using MarketAccess.
@safeelhd2 , Try changing Security level to Maximum.
@Octavius69, What device you are using ?. it works super fast and very stable with SGS1 and SGS2
Changed the security to maximum and tested again. It now scans my face for about 1/2 second longer to make sure it is me, and it works perfectly.
Tried with several different people, nobody was able to unlock it.
Love this app!
Please try and integrate this into the phone lock
Anybody tried to unlock with a paper photo of the person authorized?
EDIT: I tried to unlock with a picture of me shown on the LCD screen of my computer... unlocked!
The picture has been taken with the front camera on my Galaxy S2, so same origin as the training photos for the app.
On mid security I was able to use a picture of the 1,3MPixel camera of my stone age Nokia mobile to unlock. It didn't work on High security, though.
I tried a low res picture from Xing, which didn't unlock (setting high security) and will try some more within the next few hours.
Using biometric features to secure gear and other stuff has it's drawbacks: Finger prints are prone to fakes, a picture of your face may be used... there is no way of telling if it's actually yourself looking into the camera or a picture being held up against it.
What if you set it to protect something like widget locker..... ?
works like a charm this
if you set it to protect widgetlocker you will need to firstly unlock it via this app then the normal unlocking method set in widgetlocker.
so it'll be like this
1. facial recognition---->
2. Widgetlocker
3. Homescreen
Superb App and very well implemented. I will test it out and if it passes all my tests I will use it permanently.
I used it a bit but it is too slow to start for me. Especially for unlock of screen.
almaqdad said:
@BillSplate, apparently Visidon AppLock does not shows in all Market provider. You have to set SIM Numeric value to :- 24491 [AMT Finland] using MarketAccess.
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Hi,
Can you tell me what causes this and how can we fix it?
To all, I am not the developer of this software. I saw this application and I was so amazed with it. It is the only available face recognition for andriod and it works well.
It is so strange that this application is hidden from Market thats why a lot people dont know about.
@Visidonsupport, I really dont know what couse this problem, but I figured out that only if you fake your provider to any Finland mobile provider, then this software will appear in the market. You only can fake your provider by using MarketAccess application (Google it) from this software you can set any value for your sim card. Each mobile provider company has unique value, for example O2 (German) has a value 26207. You can find all all these values for all provider from application called Market Enabler (Google it).
By the way, are you the developer of Visidon Applock software? If so I would to thank you for ur software. We have some comment about ur software if you could implement the software will be prefect.
Regards
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almaqdad said:
@Visidonsupport, I really dont know what couse this problem, but I figured out that only if you fake your provider to any Finland mobile provider, then this software will appear in the market. You only can fake your provider by using MarketAccess application (Google it) from this software you can set any value for your sim card. Each mobile provider company has unique value, for example O2 (German) has a value 26207. You can find all all these values for all provider from application called Market Enabler (Google it).
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This is very strange. I've now changed it to be available in the whole world from the publishing console. Let's see if that helps.
almaqdad said:
By the way, are you the developer of Visidon Applock software? If so I would to thank you for ur software. We have some comment about ur software if you could implement the software will be prefect.
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Yes and we are always happy to hear feedback. But before you ask anything; we are already working on a lockscreen feature
Btw. shouldn't this thread be in somewhere more general section
@Visidonsupport, I confirm that Visidon Applock now appears in the Market without faking provider.
Yeah maybe ur right this topic suppose to be in andriod app and games section.
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New Windows Phone Tango Features and Changes

Hi guys,
With the leak of Windows Phone Tango dump, let's make a list of newly discovered features
Please include screenshots if possible.
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eric1204 said:
Thank you HD2Owner for this world first Tango Rom.
TANGO 8773 have 8 background tasks + main Tiles.
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8 background tasks memory in use. (seems no more than 256mb?)
8773 vs 8107 boot(no task) memory in use.(seems less than mango 8107)
and some changes (messaging/maps setting)
In Tango Unlocked Emulator preview that location Icon seems not yet.
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Thanks to eric1204 for the list.
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23600141&postcount=2098
Russian site WP7forum says that Tango will include
- The ability to export contacts to SIM (not confirmed)
- Manage domestic / international roaming (not confirmed)
- Handle multiple attachments in a single MMS message
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Source: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/15/2799870/windows-phone-tango-screenshots-leak
How about languages?
As all are aware, tango build will support 120 languages.
Does any one have the list of languages supported by tango?
I am just curious about Indian languages.. (which or any will be supported)
Aslo not sure how they will be supported?
- Will it include UI in those languages
- Or only tango will be able to render apps and websites developed in those languages
Fantastic...
How is IE9? Is the promised "Find on Page" feature back? Also did they add a tabs button? Or do we really have to wait a full year for this?
Anyway the other changes in Tango are minor bt very welcomed, certainly the rotation of the maps and the 8 multitask cards.
Are there any changes in the setting... specifically ability to setup mms with unlocked devices? Also curious if there is the ability to leave wifi on during "sleep" mode (screen off).
My phone has had those maps settings for a long time now... unless you are talking about the fact that yours is missing the 'tap to read directions' setting.
Is there a heading pointer in the maps app in Tango, like on every other phone. I can't use WP7 as a GPS device because I make wrong turns due to not knowing which way I'm facing on the map in unfamiliar places.
Still need to tap while navigating? Playing with your phone while driving is now illegal here and they can pull you over for it even if you've done nothing else wrong...
Can you send video off the device in eMail or MMS yet?
Is there a URL auto-shortening for SkyDrive links sent yet?
N8ter said:
Is there a heading pointer in the maps app in Tango, like on every other phone. I can't use WP7 as a GPS device because I make wrong turns due to not knowing which way I'm facing on the map in unfamiliar places.
Still need to tap while navigating? Playing with your phone while driving is now illegal here and they can pull you over for it even if you've done nothing else wrong...
Can you send video off the device in eMail or MMS yet?
Is there a URL auto-shortening for SkyDrive links sent yet?
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There are 3rd party GPS apps that do that. Same as all other OS's.
See above...
MMS yes, don't know about Email.
::Shrugs:: & don't care. It'll be hard integrated into the OS. Why would you need the URL's?
P.S. Here we go again... ::sigh::
Marvin_S said:
Also did they add a tabs button? Or do we really have to wait a full year for this?
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Tabs button is already present in Mango under "..."
I can't wait for the first Tango HD7s ROM.
pvt_nemesis said:
Tabs button is already present in Mango under "..."
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of course but I mean a button not a menu item, like in pre mango. Since there were a lot of complaints about the lack of a tabs button and missing "find on page". I would like to know if users will have to wait for a year for a feature to come back if MS decides to take it out against the will of the public.
About the maps, does it utilize the compass and does rotation now works while walking? Or does it still only works when navigating? This should not require a third party app imo.
Marvin_S said:
About the maps, does it utilize the compass and does rotation now works while walking? Or does it still only works when navigating? This should not require a third party app imo.
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The built in app auto rotates the map as you navigate. While walking or driving. This is already in there from Mango.
i'm really not looking forward to tombstoning being back. I wonder if they'll just make it so it's done on devices w/ <=256mb RAM? that'd be fine w/ me... Fast app switching is so freaking handy when doing serious multitasking, i do not want to see it go!
bc3tech said:
i'm really not looking forward to tombstoning being back. I wonder if they'll just make it so it's done on devices w/ <=256mb RAM? that'd be fine w/ me... Fast app switching is so freaking handy when doing serious multitasking, i do not want to see it go!
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Tombstoning will only happen on devices with 256MB Ram. Other devices will be able to continue to use the regular method of multitasking.
bc3tech said:
i'm really not looking forward to tombstoning being back. I wonder if they'll just make it so it's done on devices w/ <=256mb RAM? that'd be fine w/ me... Fast app switching is so freaking handy when doing serious multitasking, i do not want to see it go!
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it never left, mango just made it less noticeable.
Apps will tombstone when they are far enough back in the back stack and the phone runs low on memory. So if you have an App consuming the maximum 90 MB allowed on 256 MB devices and it gets pushed back it tombstones immediately when a new App starts.
But if the first App useses only 8 MB and all the others as well you get to start ~ 10 Apps before the first gets thrown out of memory and therefore has to be tombstoned.
On regular devices it is the same but they have more time before they run out of memory (unless there's lots of background tasks consuming memory as well but they are rather limited in that regard (aside from the resource intensive task which only runs while on charging power).
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
The built in app auto rotates the map as you navigate. While walking or driving. This is already in there from Mango.
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Yes I know, I thought for a second they implemented rotation by the compass in the maps app, without the need to actually navigate, like iOS has. That when you open the app it will rotate in the direction you are pointing it to. Currently the maps app is just static if you dont navigate.
No IE changes?
Multitasking
Does it still have multiple instances of the same app while multitasking? For instance, do the settings still take up multiple windows? It would be great to know that an app I was previously running won't be knocked off the list because the messaging app is open in like 4 different windows.
Ryken100 said:
Does it still have multiple instances of the same app while multitasking? For instance, do the settings still take up multiple windows? It would be great to know that an app I was previously running won't be knocked off the list because the messaging app is open in like 4 different windows.
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This is so annoying. It also happens with browser tabs. Open a couple of tabs while browsing and an app gets knocked off the list.

[Q] how to use QSlide feature?

I know optimus G has QSlide feature but how can I use it? I checked out youtube videos about QSlide but I cannot find the qslide button at the top right corner at all. Do I need to enable that feature? How?
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drancid said:
I know optimus G has QSlide feature but how can I use it? I checked out youtube videos about QSlide but I cannot find the qslide button at the top right corner at all. Do I need to enable that feature? How?
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It's in the video app, but it only works on local videos afaik.... unless...someone hacks it...
Rocket_Science said:
It's in the video app, but it only works on local videos afaik.... unless...someone hacks it...
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I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
Jamesyboy said:
I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
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What app did you try? If it ends up working you should post a link in the app section, i've been wanting something like this.
Rocket_Science said:
What app did you try? If it ends up working you should post a link in the app section, i've been wanting something like this.
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Super Floating Video.
It works on every device i have except my Optimus...so either LG did some funky butt stuff with the app chooser--forcing youtube videos to be viewed in the youtube app....and the like: or their build isnt recignizing that there's an alternative player for it. Android itself wont present options if theres only one app available...but the issue isnt just with videos. Its with web page links as well....which is why i know that LG has done something stupid.
If it happened with videos alone, id blame it on the app.
But because it happens with links as well (we at least have the stock browser in addition to chrome), i know its LG's doing...its either baked into the ROM, a glitch, or im missing a setting somewhere. The latter 2 are highly likely. Extremely highly likely.
Popup Browser is the browser id like to use, however, ive installed firefox as well...and it doesnt even present me with that option.
IMO the browser needs some HW acceleration work, but aside from panning, moving and resizing is smooth and buttery as hell. Its especially nice for clicking on links in the G+, Facebook, or Twitter apps....you can view the page, read, navigate, or visit a site, and then close out of it without leaving the app. Its also nice for keeping a dictionary open, or other reference material while reading the news, an ebook, or other material. For added functionality, add a quicklaunch dock/bar to your notification tray....so you can always launch the app, even if youre not doing so by clicking a link.....for instance, if youre watching/streaming live TV or a movie, and you want to look of a movie or actress.
The video app is great.
The app can play video streams, and in addition to youtube, it can manage embedded software and hardware decodable files, as well as all streams playable via mobile video (H.264 and the like.).
Install either and let me know if you have the same issues.
Jamesyboy said:
Super Floating Video.
It works on every device i have except my Optimus...so either LG did some funky butt stuff with the app chooser--forcing youtube videos to be viewed in the youtube app....and the like: or their build isnt recignizing that there's an alternative player for it. Android itself wont present options if theres only one app available...but the issue isnt just with videos. Its with web page links as well....which is why i know that LG has done something stupid.
If it happened with videos alone, id blame it on the app.
But because it happens with links as well (we at least have the stock browser in addition to chrome), i know its LG's doing...its either baked into the ROM, a glitch, or im missing a setting somewhere. The latter 2 are highly likely. Extremely highly likely.
Popup Browser is the browser id like to use, however, ive installed firefox as well...and it doesnt even present me with that option.
IMO the browser needs some HW acceleration work, but aside from panning, moving and resizing is smooth and buttery as hell. Its especially nice for clicking on links in the G+, Facebook, or Twitter apps....you can view the page, read, navigate, or visit a site, and then close out of it without leaving the app. Its also nice for keeping a dictionary open, or other reference material while reading the news, an ebook, or other material. For added functionality, add a quicklaunch dock/bar to your notification tray....so you can always launch the app, even if youre not doing so by clicking a link.....for instance, if youre watching/streaming live TV or a movie, and you want to look of a movie or actress.
The video app is great.
The app can play video streams, and in addition to youtube, it can manage embedded software and hardware decodable files, as well as all streams playable via mobile video (H.264 and the like.).
Install either and let me know if you have the same issues.
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Yeah, i'm not saying it was the app's fault, i was just curious as to what app you used. I'm pretty sure LG isn't doing it on purpose to lock anything down either, since I get the prompt for everything I should and I haven't seen this anywhere else. Sounds like you just have a really weird bug. Anyway, thanks for the app.
Rocket_Science said:
Yeah, i'm not saying it was the app's fault, i was just curious as to what app you used. I'm pretty sure LG isn't doing it on purpose to lock anything down either, since I get the prompt for everything I should and I haven't seen this anywhere else. Sounds like you just have a really weird bug. Anyway, thanks for the app.
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No problem. As far as adding functionality goes...id be hard pressed to find anything a manufacturer has ever really done for android in the past year (before that, too?) that wasn't a gimmick, and actually improved the device. Samsung did, however. Their implementation handles window management better, but LG's implementation would have been superior, in this man's humble opinion, because the transparency settings are key. Historically, LG has been week in the software section, and this just makes the opinion people have of them as a company even more vindicated. But the popup Video player is definitely a case where invention is the mother of necessity. I don't think I could ever go back and live without a popup browser and video player. It was kinda a goof; the fact that were forced to use third party tools because of laziness...in a era where almost all of our video watching on portable devices is done via streaming, playing YouTube videos is a must. I'd much rather streaming be built in.
And this isn't a unique situation...it is kinda unfortunate...their software isn't just weak...it's horrid. Exponentially more so than even companies like Archos. But they only fail in this aspect for a lack of trying. They're focused on the Korean experience, where they do well. Apparently North America is just the icing on the cake.
But these dynamics put in place some awesome potential. I also think that because of this, we could see one of the best Nexus devices ever made. LG is equally As impressive in comparison to Samsung in hardware, and both companies own their own display business, and advanced manufacturing nodes, allowing them to innovate on aspects where the devices of the future will be made. Their weakness in software makes them the PERFECT company for the nexus line of products. They get to focus on what they do best--hardware, and leave the software to the guys who do it best--google. Because of this, they benefit from a nexus lineup more than any other company could. I expect to see a Nexus tablet in the next year or so from LG.
Just as well, the Nexus name will land them something they'd never otherwise get in the U.S....market penetration, and mind share. They were unable to offer anything compelling in the functionality department before, but the partnership, with a promise to give them the latest and greatest set up possible, with an up-to-date pure android experience is compelling as hell. Hopefully this is the start of a pure android brand.
Its a case of perfect harmony....a company that cares about hardware, and produces some unique and groundbreaking technologies, that doesn't care much for/about software, teamed up with a company that knows how to provide the best software experience for any mobile device.
I know this is more than you bargained for, but I thought this discussion segued extremely well into what we can, and should expect from the future of our devices.
A pure android experience is probably minutes away for the Optimus G, once we get our hands on the code we need. Then, we'll have a superior device. And it'll work the way it should.
Anyways, like I said....there must be a setting I'm missing somewhere or something, I have the same exact configuration on all of my devices....so either its a weird, weird bug pertaining to a really specific use case, or a setting I'm missing-about after I had the issue, I literally put the phone down, and won't touch it again until I figure this out.
Jamesyboy said:
I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
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The app chooser dissapears after you set a default app. You can go into the task manager under the default tab and remove the default player. Should ask again.
Im using optimus l9 (which is similar to G) and qslide has been added with jb. It's available through notifications or via native app like 'videos'. It looks like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
after clicking 'videos' or selected video in gallery, there is simple 'inverted full-screen icon'.
I want to know how the new qslide works
Sent from my LG-LS970

[Q] Offline Running App Support

I am a running enthusiast, but was reluctant to buy a running GPS watch since I wanted to wait until a smartwatch also had GPS functionality.
I have contacted customer support from Google as well as a number of the app developers to figure out which apps support offline (without the phone) support. Unfortunately, I have been getting very uncertain answers. I was wondering if anyone that has a Sony SW3 can comment on this. The app I currently use for running - MapMyRun - I'm pretty sure does not support AW compatibility at all. Can anyone comment on some other running apps like Runtastic, Runkeeper, Endomondo, Strava? Thanks so much!
well we have a thread talking about the only one supporting the offline mode. Runkeeper beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/runkeep-offline-gps-running-support-t2939159
check here.
king conan said:
well we have a thread talking about the only one supporting the offline mode. Runkeeper beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/runkeep-offline-gps-running-support-t2939159
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Yeah, I saw that. I just did not want to know confuse people looking for information about apps besides that one. I'll be sure to keep up to date on that thread for Runkeeper info though.
Ok, at the moment we only now about runkeeper.
I hope my favorite, runtastic, jumps in but since the SW3 is the only one with wear and gps I guess the demand is not very big for this feature.
I hope more official wear watches with GPS will show next year and I'm sure this situation will improve.
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Ok, at the moment we only now about runkeeper.
I hope my favorite, runtastic, jumps in but since the SW3 is the only one with wear and gps I guess the demand is not very big for this feature.
I hope more official wear watches with GPS will show next year and I'm sure this situation will improve.
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Yeah, as much as I want to stay with my app since I've been using it for over a year, I've been waiting a long time to leave my phone at home when I go on runs.
I definitely agree that more watches with GPS will emphasize the importance of these offline apps. As I've said, I emailed pretty much all of the running apps developers. I'll keep this thread updated in case I hear from them.
You can run with MyTracks from google ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks&hl=fr ) in waiting for other apps... You can have you time and distance without the phone with you.
May I ask which app you are waiting for? You always could use runkeeper and let it sync to your favorite App.
--> Online tool (Free) https://tapiriik.com/
--> SyncMyTracks App https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syncmytracks.free&hl=en
Runkeeper is not available to be functional witout the phone... So i'm waiting for update of Runkeeper and Runtastic.
The update of runkeeper in Google play should be very soon, they just added untethered mode (in the beta) without adding any extra features or customization. So not a big update or change to the core of the app.
I didn't realize that you could get the RunKeeper data to transfer to another app. If I could do that for MapMyRun, I may consider it. Thanks for the heads up Basch88.
I also heard from Endomondo, and they said "For now we will wait and see how the smart watch trend develops and then we will consider what to do going forward."
I don't like the response from Endomondo. It's my preferred training app, but guess I'll have to switch to RunKeeper when I get my watch in a few days. Hope the competition release watches with built-in gps soon so the training app developers get going.
Just heard back from Runtastic. This is what they said "Hi Kevin, no unfortunately that is not a feature we offer. You need to have the Runtastic App with you in order to obtain readings on the Smartwatch. At the moment the Sony Smartwatch 3 is not supported. In case you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us!"
I asked if they plan to support the feature, even in beta, at any point. Still waiting for a reply. Also, not sure why they say they don't support the Sony SW3, and yet they support other AW devices. I was pretty sure that the apps and everything would work on all AW devices instead of just a select group.
I got exactly the same reply back from them.
Ive since started using RunKeeper, because at least the support the SW3 (in beta). I purchased Sync My Tracks and transferred them all over from Runtastic to Runkeeper.
They clarified their past statement. They followed up with:
"What we mean to say is that we currently don’t support the ability to use the built-in gps then sync later to your phone – sorry for the misunderstanding. The Runtastic app is already compatible with the Sony Smartwatch 3, but not as a standalone tracker.
You will be pleased to know that tracking with watches built-in GPS then syncing is something we’re highly interested in, and currently looking into! The downside, however, is that’s all we can say at the moment – stay tuned for updates about this though!"
Strava said the following: "Thank you for contacting Strava. At this time, we do not access the GPS in the Sony Smartwatch 3. I apologize for the inconvenience! The best way to share your idea is to post your suggestion in our community forums. We use these forums to consolidate and collect feedback from our community so if there is enough interest, it may be something we put on the roadmap."
So, it looks like Runkeeper is the only one that is willing to openly discuss that they are incorporating offline GPS tracking besides the generic My Tracks and Lifelog. Runtastic may be next up, but they aren't going to officially comment on it yet. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that MapMyRun follows through for me. Though their track record for bringing features to Android is far from stellar.
today i tried my swr50 on the track.. so i used both a mobile with runkeeper( not paired with smartwatch 3 ) and also smartwatch 3 with MY TRACKS!!
GPS on both devices worked well.. the map is accurate on both BUT..
while runkeeper shows 10.01KM smartwatch shows 10.13 km !!!
so it's a bit of difference !!
I did also another thing.. i EXPORTED GPX file from MY TRACKS on Runkeeper web site .. this was a sort of test and also this worked well , which means we can just go jogging with smartwatch and then upload , while we wait for a stand alone app, the file on runkeeper or other services!!
Honestly i'm really satisfy about my smartwatch!!!
i post here the 2 tracks 1 runkeeper ( on the left ) and my tracks on smartwatch second picture!!
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second smartwatch my tracks;
Applethrow said:
I don't like the response from Endomondo. It's my preferred training app, but guess I'll have to switch to RunKeeper when I get my watch in a few days. Hope the competition release watches with built-in gps soon so the training app developers get going.
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They alway are last or really reluctant to implement features... Nonetheless they are also my preferred training app
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Ghostracer
Hi, where are all the strava users out there?
I've been working on a sony smartwatch 3 version of my app for the last few weeks and have just posted the beta to the play store.
The app is on the play store here: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bravetheskies.ghostracer&hl=en_GB
and to sign up for the beta you have to join this google group: plus.google.com/communities/108600094791246159447
The app uploads to strava but you can also export a gpx file.
Smartwatch features include:
Semi customisable display, long clicking brings up a list of fields.
Low power mode where the back light turns off but the app stays on. This is very temperamental, hopefully google will sort this feature out in the next wear update.
Got it, thank you.
As you told me in google +, after joining the community, to become a beta tester we have to follow this link:
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.bravetheskies.ghostracer
I'll try to test it yoday.
Just to talk a little bit, why strava is your choice to upload the data? Do you think it is better than the other famous fitness apps?
To summarize how to get the beta app with proper links:
1.- Download the google play app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bravetheskies.ghostracer&hl=en_GB
2.- Join Ghost racer community in G+:
https://plus.google.com/communities/108600094791246159447
3.- Then become betatester:
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.bravetheskies.ghostracer
After that the beta is available as an update in google play.
@king conan : The app uses Strava because that's what I use for cycling and I'm a big fan of the segment leadrerboards. I've looked into adding support for other apps in the pasts from users requests but most don't support an open API, unlike Strava.
Thanks for putting the links up, I have not posted enough on the forum to be allowed to add links
Few notes about the smartwatch app:
The speed data field is broken, little error I made in last update. Will be fixed straight away.
You cannot change between Paired and Standalone mode yet. Its always in Standalone mode.
To swipe back up from the settings page you have to touch near the top of the screen and not on the list.

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