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Mine just started to after lunch today. I've had it on the desk and saw it restart about 3 times in less than a 15 minute window.
How do I know this just started and it hasn't been going on in my pocket? Well over the weekend I would have heard it reset (since it's not on silent/vibrate like it is at work). It also significantly drains the battery more if you are constantly soft resetting it/turning it off and on.
So is anyone else having this issue? I need to figure out if it was just a freak occurrence or if something is wrong with it.
I did NOT root it, running everything stock - I did some updates on some apps I have installed but no new programs installed in a couple of days - again this just started happening today in the last couple of hours.
And besides email and messaging, I'm not running anything in the background like Pandora or eBuddy, so I don't think it's a program causing it to reset.
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Not sure if this is the best category for the thread, but I could not find any threads similar to this besides the battery issue in general. Apologies if this thread already exists somewhere.
No uncalled for restarts here. Open the back, pull the battery, check the contacts? Is it plugged in when it does this? Try padding the battery with a folded piece of paper between the door and battery to ensure a snug fit. If it still does that, time to go to a store.
@Jye75
Thanks, I have pulled out and looked at the battery. I have that Seido case they were slangin' at Best Buy on it, I don't think there's an issue with the contacts.
One weird thing is during one of the automatic restarts, the phone made the start up sound. I had the phone on vibrate and the start up before that (and after when I manually restarted it) did not have a tone. Very odd... perhaps it's possessed.
Odd indeed... drop by a Sprint store, would be my next move.
It happened to me two times today since I did the full root last night. The last time it happened, I clicked on a input field and it restarted...
I had the issue when I turned off "enable always on mobile data"...turning it back on stopped the resets.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701540 <-- no one said much in my thread about it
Probably just a kernel panic. I would not worry about it too much. It's happened to me on my Hero, and on my Evo.
For comparison purposes, how often does OS X Kernel Panic? How often does Windows BSOD?
Android is rather new technology in comparison. Yes, it runs Linux, which is rather mature at this point, but it's built with a lot of new technology, which may not be as mature as the stock kernel itself.
/two cents.
heed316 said:
I had the issue when I turned off "enable always on mobile data"...turning it back on stopped the resets.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701540 <-- no one said much in my thread about it
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Thanks, I realized that was one of the few things I've changed at the end of the weekend. Sweet!
blakejohnson86 said:
Probably just a kernel panic. I would not worry about it too much. It's happened to me on my Hero, and on my Evo.
For comparison purposes, how often does OS X Kernel Panic? How often does Windows BSOD?
Android is rather new technology in comparison. Yes, it runs Linux, which is rather mature at this point, but it's built with a lot of new technology, which may not be as mature as the stock kernel itself.
/two cents.
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It reset about 8-10 times in less than 2 hours. More than half of that time the phone was in my pocket and not in use. I hardly got a signal inside of Walmart so it's not like I was using it that much in there.
I have set the data to be always on and hopefully this will help...
I appreciate all the help guys!
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Thanks, I realized that was one of the few things I've changed at the end of the weekend. Sweet!
It reset about 8-10 times in less than 2 hours. More than half of that time the phone was in my pocket and not in use. I hardly got a signal inside of Walmart so it's not like I was using it that much in there.
I have set the data to be always on and hopefully this will help...
I appreciate all the help guys!
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I had the same exact thing happen to me beginning this past weekend. It was driving me insane since it was rebooting every 30 minutes or so. I noticed it started happening more so when I did not have good signal. In any case I came to the conclusion it was all the tinkering (root part 1 and custom ROM) I've done with the phone so I wiped it last night and started from scratch (root part 1 and 2 and custom ROM). No reboots yet, but seeing your post concerns me since it's not the first post I've read regarding this issue. I'll keep you posted if mine keeps doing it. I really hope it's not a real issue, getting a replacement does not seem like it will be an easy process at the moment with them constantly selling out.
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I had the same exact thing happen to me beginning this past weekend. It was driving me insane since it was rebooting every 30 minutes or so. I noticed it started happening more so when I did not have good signal. In any case I came to the conclusion it was all the tinkering (root part 1 and custom ROM) I've done with the phone so I wiped it last night and started from scratch (root part 1 and 2 and custom ROM). No reboots yet, but seeing your post concerns me since it's not the first post I've read regarding this issue. I'll keep you posted if mine keeps doing it. I really hope it's not a real issue, getting a replacement does not seem like it will be an easy process at the moment with them constantly selling out.
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Thanks for the input. Your concern about the difficulty in getting a replaced unit due to them selling out is EXACTLY why I'm trying to figure out if this is a software glitch.
I'm also glad you pointed out that it tended to happen when the signal was ****ty. Last night I enabled the data always on (it was on by default and I turned it off earlier in the weekend) and I haven't had a reset yet this morning. Of course I've also been in good coverage areas. When it kept resetting like mad last night it was inside of Wal-Mart, and they have some serious shielding on their building or something since I rarely get a full or even half signal in there regardless of carrier or phone in past experience. A lot of friends on Altell/Verizon beg to differ with me though.
I'm thinking if they're connected, the fact that a weak data signal contributes to the device rebooting is really odd; the only time I can think of why a phone should reboot on its own is the OS crashes (or some app takes up ALL the available RAM, freezing it, then crashing it) or it overheats (but would seem to turn off rather than reboot). I had a BB Curve that did this at one point so I had to clear the cache all the time.
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Actually, I realized when it started to happen it was at work where I have excellent reception. Hmmm... well at least it hasn't reset on its own this morning so far (so far meaning 30 minutes).
pekosROB said:
Thanks for the input. Your concern about the difficulty in getting a replaced unit due to them selling out is EXACTLY why I'm trying to figure out if this is a software glitch.
I'm also glad you pointed out that it tended to happen when the signal was ****ty. Last night I enabled the data always on (it was on by default and I turned it off earlier in the weekend) and I haven't had a reset yet this morning. Of course I've also been in good coverage areas. When it kept resetting like mad last night it was inside of Wal-Mart, and they have some serious shielding on their building or something since I rarely get a full or even half signal in there regardless of carrier or phone in past experience. A lot of friends on Altell/Verizon beg to differ with me though.
I'm thinking if they're connected, the fact that a weak data signal contributes to the device rebooting is really odd; the only time I can think of why a phone should reboot on its own is the OS crashes (or some app takes up ALL the available RAM, freezing it, then crashing it) or it overheats (but would seem to turn off rather than reboot). I had a BB Curve that did this at one point so I had to clear the cache all the time.
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Actually, I realized when it started to happen it was at work where I have excellent reception. Hmmm... well at least it hasn't reset on its own this morning so far (so far meaning 30 minutes).
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Well for what it's worth, mine was also doing it in good signal areas as well. It just seemed a lot more pronounced when I was getting bad signal. Anywho I reread your original post that you are running stock software so let's see if it keeps occuring for both of us regardless of the differences in software we are running. I also still have "Enable data always on" off.
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Well for what it's worth, mine was also doing it in good signal areas as well. It just seemed a lot more pronounced when I was getting bad signal. Anywho I reread your original post that you are running stock software so let's see if it keeps occuring for both of us regardless of the differences in software we are running. I also still have "Enable data always on" off.
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Sounds like a plan. Still no problems so far with data always on.
FWIW I also did the battery trick by switching the phone to CDMA auto from GSM auto. Supposedly you have to do it everytime you boot your phone, and it's supposed to help with battery life. Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601
It has to have something to do with turning off always on mobile data. It goes away when it's on, but then comes back when you turn it off. I just did rooted and unlocked nand protection on my phone last night and turned off always on mobile data and haven't had any reboots yet. Then again, it took a little while for it to start resetting last time so we'll see I guess. Could just be some glitch in the software that putting a new rom on has fixed...
It has to have something to do with turning off always on mobile data. It goes away when it's on, but then comes back when you turn it off. I just did rooted and unlocked nand protection on my phone last night and turned off always on mobile data and haven't had any reboots yet.
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Mine had been the complete opposite, I have had data off, and when I turned it on yesterday it started reseting, I turned data back off last night and have had no more problems...
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I had this happen to me while I was trying to talk on the phone and use google navigation at the same time while running the Overclocking widget to throttle my cpu to 285mhz when the screen was off. Whenever I turned off the screen my phone would reboot.
My guess is that there some issue there where the cpu cant keep up with the heavy usage, locks up and forces a reboot...
I've since gotten rid of the OC widget, rooted my phone and installed a custom rom. I've not had it happen since, of course I havent tried talking and using google nav yet.
I've also noticed that advanced task killer caused the htc sense launcher to reboot (force killed) every once in a while... I've gotten rid of that too...
happend to me while talking on the phone twice, it was weird i could hear him still talking the entire time it was rebooting, up untill the OS actually launched...Im gunna try and kill set cpu, how many other people have this running while its rebooting???
widjit said:
happend to me while talking on the phone twice, it was weird i could hear him still talking the entire time it was rebooting, up untill the OS actually launched...Im gunna try and kill set cpu, how many other people have this running while its rebooting???
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This happened to me today, in-call. My phone has reset 6 times since then off-call.
Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Running Toast's root has stopped it for me as of today. If that actually had any effect, I have no idea...but no resets yet with always on mobile data on and off. Maybe flashing the rom again helped...
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Running Toast's root has stopped it for me as of today. If that actually had any effect, I have no idea...but no resets yet with always on mobile data on and off. Maybe flashing the rom again helped...
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Me too, I'm totally stuck on part 2 though...
widjit said:
Alright un-installed setcpu and it still resets. I'm now trying to shim my battery to see if its a loose connection. I gotta figure this out its driving me crazy...
UPDATE: still hapining with battery shined, tried both data sync on and off, installed setcpu, all to no avail... maybe I will try a hard reset... I remember on my kaiser this started hapinin and it was a bad nand flash, but I'm running stock with unrevoked... so if anyone has any ideas I'm wide open.
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Wow dude I'm sorry to hear you're having that much trouble. I'm on step 2 of part 2 of Toast's root method but running into major issues. Since I did step 1 (and before that I enabled data always on again) I haven't had a reset issue.
For the record, my Hardware version 2.
Do you guys think this is a widespread or isolated issue? I'm surprised it hasn't happened more or less, in other words I figured there would be either a lot or hardly any comments about it. This medium sized number is interesting.
Hey I have been noticing a weird issue with my phone.
Ive flashed a few different ROMS to see if it was a specific one or if it is something else. Yes, that didnt work.
I am still having random turn offs which shut the phone down. Whether on it or not it happens at least twice a day.
Does this have something to do with the battery? When i reboot the phone the battery level shows at what it was...
last example I had was 68%. So it wasnt fully dead. I was going to send my phone back but decided to stick it out and maybe a new
battery will work? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Take your battery out and place it on a flat surface. Try to spin it. If it spins, it's time to replace it.
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Try a stock rom for a few days if the battery seems fine. My phone has the sleep of death issue with various jellybean AOSP based Roms.
deviouskind said:
Hey I have been noticing a weird issue with my phone.
Ive flashed a few different ROMS to see if it was a specific one or if it is something else. Yes, that didnt work.
I am still having random turn offs which shut the phone down. Whether on it or not it happens at least twice a day.
Does this have something to do with the battery? When i reboot the phone the battery level shows at what it was...
last example I had was 68%. So it wasnt fully dead. I was going to send my phone back but decided to stick it out and maybe a new
battery will work? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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One thing I've noticed. My Battery will get extremely hot. I'll pull the battery, wait for 5 min, put the Battery back in and will be able to proceeded.
Just my $.02 worth
It's certainly the battery, only fix is to replace it.
Happens to me once every other day. Not a big problem just take out the battery and replace it back in.
I'm about to change the rom temporarily from goodness to blu kuban to see if it continues.
If it does then it has to be a battery issue at least on my end...
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Time for a new battery.
Pp.
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Battery issue with Galaxy SII
The shutdown issue seems to be inherent in many SII regardless of carrier. I have had this problem with my Sprint phone since new. It has been exchanged twice thus far but the problem continues. Samsung will tell you to do a factory reset. DONTdo it. It will not fix the problem.
It is NOT the battery in most cases.
It seems to be OS related. I have cleaned the battery contacts; not charged unless below 20%; unchecked the Power Saver and Optimization functions; and did a factory reset without loading in any additional apps for awhile. Nothing stopped it from shutting down.
I was able to prevent shutdown for about a two week period by not charging it until it went below 20%.
I did notice that my RAM consumption was over 60% prior to the phone acting up.
Could it be a memory issue?
Thus far, I have not received any real support from Samsung or Sprint. The Galaxy SII is one of the few phones that cannot be run through a diagnostc test by Sprint. If you have warranty coverage, they will replace it but I can almost guarantee the problem will beda plague to the new one.
If anyone has found a solution to this shutdown thing, I would love to know it. Right now, I check my phone status very often throughout the day to see whether it is one or not.
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qanda said:
The shutdown issue seems to be inherent in many SII regardless of carrier. I have had this problem with my Sprint phone since new. It has been exchanged twice thus far but the problem continues. Samsung will tell you to do a factory reset. DONTdo it. It will not fix the problem.
It is NOT the battery in most cases.
It seems to be OS related. I have cleaned the battery contacts; not charged unless below 20%; unchecked the Power Saver and Optimization functions; and did a factory reset without loading in any additional apps for awhile. Nothing stopped it from shutting down.
I was able to prevent shutdown for about a two week period by not charging it until it went below 20%.
I did notice that my RAM consumption was over 60% prior to the phone acting up.
Could it be a memory issue?
Thus far, I have not received any real support from Samsung or Sprint. The Galaxy SII is one of the few phones that cannot be run through a diagnostc test by Sprint. If you have warranty coverage, they will replace it but I can almost guarantee the problem will beda plague to the new one.
If anyone has found a solution to this shutdown thing, I would love to know it. Right now, I check my phone status very often throughout the day to see whether it is one or not.
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What rom/build are you on? Rooted?
Your problem isn't a common topic here unless your running experimental nightlys or doing a bad flash/install or your battery is no good.
I have two Epics since 10/2011 and have never encountered this condition. We did replace the batteries on both phones in 12/12 because of rapid discharges, going from 90% to 50% after a reboot or running a system heavy app like browser, camera, or YouTube.
Other than that all we do is use and charge when necessary.
Both phones are rooted, her phone is a workhorse because of her job, fashion design NYC, keeping track of 4 email accounts (2 gmail, 2 Microsoft Eexchange) plus crazy messaging all day long.
Check your phone model.
It may be different. Maybe you have the wrong battery in your phone?
There where some instances that had some Epic's with 1500 mha batteries instead of 1800mha!
Pp.
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Battery Issue?
PanchoPlanet said:
What rom/build are you on? Rooted?
Your problem isn't a common topic here unless your running experimental nightlys or doing a bad flash/install or your battery is no good.
I have two Epics since 10/2011 and have never encountered this condition. We did replace the batteries on both phones in 12/12 because of rapid discharges, going from 90% to 50% after a reboot or running a system heavy app like browser, camera, or YouTube.
Other than that all we do is use and charge when necessary.
Both phones are rooted, her phone is a workhorse because of her job, fashion design NYC, keeping track of 4 email accounts (2 gmail, 2 Microsoft Eexchange) plus crazy messaging all day long.
Check your phone model.
It may be different. Maybe you have the wrong battery in your phone?
There where some instances that had some Epic's with 1500 mha batteries instead of 1800mha!
Pp.
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Phone is not rooted....straight OS. I will check the battery to ascertain if it is a 1500 or 1800.
Phone is an SPHD710. It's only three months old and has been swapped twice by Sprint. I think it may be ICS. When I got it, they updated it to the latest OS which was ICS fron Gingerbread, so I don't know if it would have had the same problem with GB.
I'll try to get a new battery from them and see if it makes any difference.
Thanks.
qanda said:
Phone is not rooted....straight OS. I will check the battery to ascertain if it is a 1500 or 1800.
Phone is an SPHD710. It's only three months old and has been swapped twice by Sprint. I think it may be ICS. When I got it, they updated it to the latest OS which was ICS fron Gingerbread, so I don't know if it would have had the same problem with GB.
I'll try to get a new battery from them and see if it makes any difference.
Thanks.
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Most definitely I would say ICS. !!!!!
If it had been left on gb you wouldn't be experiencing these issues. :thumbup:
Pp.
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deviouskind said:
Hey I have been noticing a weird issue with my phone.
Ive flashed a few different ROMS to see if it was a specific one or if it is something else. Yes, that didnt work.
I am still having random turn offs which shut the phone down. Whether on it or not it happens at least twice a day.
Does this have something to do with the battery? When i reboot the phone the battery level shows at what it was...
last example I had was 68%. So it wasnt fully dead. I was going to send my phone back but decided to stick it out and maybe a new
battery will work? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Sounds like the power button might be going bad. If you are not getting sudden large drops or increases in battery % I would lean towards the power button.
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I'm having the same sort of issues on my S2. I've had it for about 6-7 months and it's worked fine but the last few weeks it's been almost unusable. Within 5-10 minutes of using my phone it will shut off, regardless of the battery level. Turning it back on would show that it was critically low on battery and it would shut off again within seconds. Plugging it into a charger would let me turn on again and restore the battery level to what it was, oftentimes over 60%.
It seems that the false battery reports come and go, but the real problem is that the phone just keeps turning off. It's useless without a charger anymore. I've looked on Sprint's forums and it seems like many people have been having the same problem. Especially after the new JB update. I've been running stock so I figured I might try a custom rom. I rooted and went back to FF18 but I can't load up a custom recovery to install a ROM. The link to download the autoroot package in this thread is dead.
I have run into the same issue starting about three weeks ago. I am already on my second battery, which is only six months old, but it was behaving as if it was dying again, so I got another brand new one from the sprint store just to make sure... Phone was still shutting off though. After some more research, I came across someone who had a bad card reader in their phone. They even wrote a program that keeps track of mounts, ejects, and bad ejects. I downloaded it (its called sd card monitor), and sure enough, my card is ejecting itself multiple times an hour (which is no surprise, this phone has destroyed several cards already)... If I remove the card, I have no more problems... So for now, I am using my phone without a sd card. I am not paying Sprint $50 for a refurbished replacement at this point, I am fed up with their service and will be changing carriers after the S4 comes out...
The strange thing though, the sd card issue doesn't affect the phone if it's plugged in.
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I'm having the same sort of issues on my S2. I've had it for about 6-7 months and it's worked fine but the last few weeks it's been almost unusable. Within 5-10 minutes of using my phone it will shut off, regardless of the battery level. Turning it back on would show that it was critically low on battery and it would shut off again within seconds. Plugging it into a charger would let me turn on again and restore the battery level to what it was, oftentimes over 60%.
It seems that the false battery reports come and go, but the real problem is that the phone just keeps turning off. It's useless without a charger anymore. I've looked on Sprint's forums and it seems like many people have been having the same problem. Especially after the new JB update. I've been running stock so I figured I might try a custom rom. I rooted and went back to FF18 but I can't load up a custom recovery to install a ROM. The link to download the autoroot package in this thread is dead.
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Can you confirm that your phone is having the same issues due to the card reader.?
If so please share.
(Otherwise you need a new battery.)
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Can you confirm that your phone is having the same issues due to the card reader.?
If so please share.
(Otherwise you need a new battery.)
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I ran that SD card monitor app for about 4 hours and no disconnects, so I guess it's a battery issue.
I currently have NB4.
What's new in NF4? I know it has the VoLTE but that's not in my area so nothing for me(yet).
Are there any improvements?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is. What are the pros and con's of upgrading from NB4 to NF4?
I also run w03 slimkat. Is it compatible? It shows its compatible with 4.4 BL. Just not sure if that's updated to include NF4 BL.
thanks and sorry for being a noob.
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Rick7C2 said:
I currently have NB4.
What's new in NF4? I know it has the VoLTE but that's not in my area so nothing for me(yet).
Are there any improvements?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is. What are the pros and con's of upgrading from NB4 to NF4?
I also run w03 slimkat. Is it compatible? It shows its compatible with 4.4 BL. Just not sure if that's updated to include NF4 BL.
thanks and sorry for being a noob.
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I have no idea as to what exactly is "new" in NF4 but take it from me,
if there wasn't any improvements then why would Samsung waste their
time, money and effort with the NF4 or any other future updates?
There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates.
Misterjunky said:
I have no idea as to what exactly is "new" in NF4 but take it from me,
if there wasn't any improvements then why would Samsung waste their
time, money and effort with the NF4 or any other future updates?
There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates.
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Of course there can be cons. Thats a laughable statement. Until it's reported the update is fine, you can have broken root, locked down bootloader (not as likely on T-Mobile) a bad build that causes bad battery drain. You must be new to the phone rooting and roming world to say "There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates"
I don't want any fights started. Please keep it casual.
With that being said. Yes there can be some pros and con's.
Like I said before I know that it includes VoLTE. That's the main feature. However That is not available in my area.
What I would like to know. Is there better internet connectivity? How's battery life. My biggest problem with T-Mobile in my area is it keeps dropping from H+ to 3G. 3G and below are like being in airplane mode. I end up having to disconnect and reconnect to get H+ back. Does NF4 fix this? If not Is there any tricks/mods to help with this issue. Or is it just ****ty network in my area?
and again I will continue to use W03 SlimKat. currently running V23 waiting on V25.
I'm looking for people who have personally updated there phone to NF4 and can give me details on how well its running.
Thanks
Rick7C2 said:
I don't want any fights started. Please keep it casual.
With that being said. Yes there can be some pros and con's.
Like I said before I know that it includes VoLTE. That's the main feature. However That is not available in my area.
What I would like to know. Is there better internet connectivity? How's battery life. My biggest problem with T-Mobile in my area is it keeps dropping from H+ to 3G. 3G and below are like being in airplane mode. I end up having to disconnect and reconnect to get H+ back. Does NF4 fix this? If not Is there any tricks/mods to help with this issue. Or is it just ****ty network in my area?
and again I will continue to use W03 SlimKat. currently running V23 waiting on V25.
I'm looking for people who have personally updated there phone to NF4 and can give me details on how well its running.
Thanks
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For me, battery performance increased noticeably and it seems like connectivity is better. At my house it used to always switch from 4glte to 4g and since the update it holds the lte connection better. Sunday morning there was a quake in the bay area and since then data has been weird. ..but up to that things where just buzzing along. I came from NB4 and like i said i noticed worthy improvements.
***BTW i did a full wipe in recovery, powered down, pulled battery, booted into download mode and odin'd the full firmware file, everything except External SD.
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For me, battery performance increased noticeably and it seems like connectivity is better. At my house it used to always switch from 4glte to 4g and since the update it holds the lte connection better. Sunday morning there was a quake in the bay area and since then data has been weird. ..but up to that things where just buzzing along. I came from NB4 and like i said i noticed worthy improvements.
***BTW i did a full wipe in recovery, powered down, pulled battery, booted into download mode and odin'd the full firmware file, everything except External SD.
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Thanks, Based on this information I have decided to go ahead and update to NF4. Running W03 SlimKat V24 sofar so good. Once Google gets done restoring my apps I will turn off WiFi and update this thread with my findings.
I know many people claim better battery life after updating to 4.4, but I don't see it. I just updated about a week ago from 4.3 (MI7) to 4.4 (NF4) and battery life is similar at best, but mostly worse.Not only that, but charging also takes much longer. Normally my battery would fully charge in about 2.5 hours, but couple nights ago it took 5 hours to go from 10% to 82%. I went back to sleep and finally was fully charged after additional 3 hours, but then as soon as I turn it on, went down to 97%. I never seen that before. I run 0228 code and discharged to 0 and then back to 100%, so hopefully that will calibrate battery better, but still just last night phone was at 100% before sleep and in the morning down to 80%. Normally on 4.3 I would loose 3% to 4% overnight. I just hope it's temporary and will improve after settling down, otherwise i will need to run some serious diagnostics and fix it. Antutu also seem slower, last time I run it on 4.3 I got 37083, under 4.4 I barely got 35000.
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I know many people claim better battery life after updating to 4.4, but I don't see it. I just updated about a week ago from 4.3 (MI7) to 4.4 (NF4) and battery life is similar at best, but mostly worse.Not only that, but charging also takes much longer. Normally my battery would fully charge in about 2.5 hours, but couple nights ago it took 5 hours to go from 10% to 82%. I went back to sleep and finally was fully charged after additional 3 hours, but then as soon as I turn it on, went down to 97%. I never seen that before. I run 0228 code and discharged to 0 and then back to 100%, so hopefully that will calibrate battery better, but still just last night phone was at 100% before sleep and in the morning down to 80%. Normally on 4.3 I would loose 3% to 4% overnight. I just hope it's temporary and will improve after settling down, otherwise i will need to run some serious diagnostics and fix it. Antutu also seem slower, last time I run it on 4.3 I got 37083, under 4.4 I barely got 35000.
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Not my experience at all. Battery drops maybe 2-3% overnight. Stays at 100% longer than it had and charges plenty fast from 1% to 100% way under 5 hrs, but i never really timed it yet i can say it was under 3 hrs and i remember being surprised at how quickly it got to 80' something percent. Every month or so I run my phone down to 1% just to help the battery cause I'm usually on a charger and rarely get below 50%. Maybe a good wiping might tune things up for you.
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Not my experience at all. Battery drops maybe 2-3% overnight. Stays at 100% longer than it had and charges plenty fast from 1% to 100% way under 5 hrs, but i never really timed it yet i can say it was under 3 hrs and i remember being surprised at how quickly it got to 80' something percent. Every month or so I run my phone down to 1% just to help the battery cause I'm usually on a charger and rarely get below 50%. Maybe a good wiping might tune things up for you.
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Heres some pics....stock kernel fyi
I believe you, you're not the first person claiming better battery. I don't want to wipe, too much headache to restore and settings and games in progress, also my kids are on my account, so either no automatic reinstall (BTW how do I stop it), or a lot of deleting kiddie games, already went with this process once before, not fun. Probably something simple, since I'm stock rooted and always been on my Note3.
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I believe you, you're not the first person claiming better battery. I don't want to wipe, too much headache to restore and settings and games in progress, also my kids are on my account, so either no automatic reinstall (BTW how do I stop it), or a lot of deleting kiddie games, already went with this process once before, not fun. Probably something simple, since I'm stock rooted and always been on my Note3.
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yup, its a coin toss.....once I saw the stability that comes with full wiping I can't not do it, stopped me from being a flashaholic. Titanium Backup can backup/restore your apps but settings/shortcuts/widgets etc have to all be set back up....I take screen shots of all my home screens to aid the process of getting back to normalcy....gotta weigh the pros and cons
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I'm still using jellybean 4.3 worth the upgrade to Kit Kat?
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Hello,
I'm still using jellybean 4.3 worth the upgrade to Kit Kat?
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That is extremely debatable, there are plenty of people who feel either way, i suggest reading what different people have to say to help base your opinion.
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I run 0228 code
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What code is this? I don't see it among the list of "secret" codes entered for Samsung devices.
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What code is this? I don't see it among the list of "secret" codes entered for Samsung devices.
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it shows battery info, also there is a button on bottom, if pressed it changes battery charge level, so it was speculated it does some quick recalibration, but as with all other codes no one knows for sure. Sure this is in some secret code lists, but i don't think there is a list that have them all, otherwise they wouldn't be secret anymore. LOL
There were few threads about this code in past, but i don't remember where now.
Well sofar everything is great. Network still gets stuck in 3G and I have to airplane mode to get H+ again. However it seems like its not doing this as often.
Better life is the same which is good because battery life was awesome before the update.
I will update if anything changes.
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Of course there can be cons. Thats a laughable statement. Until it's reported the update is fine, you can have broken root, locked down bootloader (not as likely on T-Mobile) a bad build that causes bad battery drain. You must be new to the phone rooting and roming world to say "There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates"
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That is exactly why I froze my updater and stayed on jb4.3.
Now that KK has been out for a while and should have bugs fixed, what are the pros for updating from jb to kk?
I didn't update for long time mostly because of SD card issues, which could be fixed, but needed root, but again, root would trip knox. Now that we can root without breaking knox, I finally updated. Personally didn't see much: people claimed better battery, for me is little worse, many claimed faster snappier response, I don't see that either, on the other hand, so far haven't seen any SD card issues neither, so didn't even need the fix yet. One advantage, I already made my first VOLTE, so it works and it's on in my area and you need KitKat for that.
Add to this probably few security fixes and some tweaks under the hood and probably that's it. IMO, the update did not fix any issues for me, except wifi calling that broke recently, but I didn't have any other issues as well, but at the same time the update didn't break anything major either, so it's pretty much wash, unless you need VOLTE.
Note 4 comes out in few weeks, so that was my backup plan in case update was messed up, but as it is Note4 needs to win my heart on it's own merits.
Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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No i wouldnt stay on jellybean too many problems with kitkat.
The only "problem" i can come up right away is apps using extSDcard issue... which is already solved if root. What other problems are there?
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Thanks i updated to NF9 using your method, i then rerooted my phone. Lot faster than before. Thank you very much
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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Thanks for ideas, but It's not volte, when home i"m always on wifi and for example just last night lost 20% charge overnight, wakelock shows nothing, the only time I had anything like that on JB was when I switched off wifi power save in secret menu long time ago when troubleshooting wifi calling. BT first wouldn't connect at all, then connected, but wouldn't reconnect again next day, finally on third day it held. I think I read somebody was claiming SD card fix breaks BT, or something like that, but now finally seems to be working. I'll probably freeze/disable everything at some point and then start enabling few apps at the time, to see when it starts blowing battery again, but this will take forever.. Update itself went fine, I even verified firmware's checksums, like first time ever and I have no reboots, no crashes, no freezing. Actually let me check that stupid wifi save mode, maybe it turned itself off.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Ok first of all the reason why I'm responding is purely to try and help, and I know some people can be sensitive to criticism so I just wanted to clarify that my intentions are not to flame you. With that being said I know that I don't "know" so I'm only basing this from your post, but you seem to be extremely negative about the entire process in general. I also understand that it may be overwhelming for people who aren't technically "in to" rooting or even customizing their phones, which is why I often consider rooting to be a double edged sword for a lot of people.
This is why basically imo it's a complete waste for someone to "pay" someone else to root or customize their phone for them (I'm definitely not implying that's what you did or anything just to clarify), because it's not in the least bit a one time thing where once it's done it'll just be smooth sailing from there on out. It takes a huge amount of upkeep and dedication to get and enjoy the most out of what rooting and customizing has to offer, and for some people the trade off just isn't worth the overall amount of work which involved with it. It always just depends on the person, how they use and how much they use their phones, the amount of work they are willing to put into it, and what exactly they expect to get out of it, to determine if it's even worth the process to begin with.
As far as what you were talking about with wiping the phone, having to set everything up again, and losing some of your game data, it kinda sounds like that was along the lines of a traumatic experience for you especially when compared to others who might actually go through that same process 10 or more times a day and really enjoy it.
Also as far as your battery life goes there's so many different variables that can determine whether you'll have killer battery life or struggle to make it through the day kinda battery life, but the beauty of root and the ability to customize is that you never have to just settle for one or the other. One thing I'd strongly suggest is to look into different Kernels depending on which rom you're on, because it's amazing how much difference the right kernel for your device alone can make with battery. Every single device is different in it's own tolerances and even if you pull 2 of the same phones that are back to back off of the assembly line, one might work better with a specific kernel/rom combination than another, one could have better stock battery life than the other, and so on. So I always try to take others experiences with certain Kernels or Roms kind of lightly, because that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have the same results with my specific device.
Another to keep in mind is that whenever you flash a new rom, kernel, or even flash a new ota, it'll always take at least 3 or 4 days before the kernel will fully settle in and start to show the "true" battery life and performance that you can expect. So if you flash a new rom or kernel and then decide after just one day that the battery life sucks or that the performance isn't what you were expecting and then flash something else, you literally have no idea how that rom or kernel would've truly performed because it didn't even have enough time to settle in. For example I flashed a kernel one time and for the first 3 days the battery life was 10 times worse than what I was getting, and then half way through the 3rd day I started to notice it getting better and better until it wound up literally being the best battery life I had ever had at that point. So if I would've said screw it and automatically decided it was going to be terrible based on what it did at first, I would've screwed myself out of the best battery life I'd ever had up until then. It just takes a lot of patients and I'm not saying this is what you did at all, but I think a lot of people simply don't wait long enough to actually see the "true results" before deciding something is good or bad.
Anyway I waited awhile before doing the update as well because my phone was running almost exactly how I liked it, and when I finally did do the update I wasn't getting the same results at first which can always be discouraging. I'm glad now that I did do the update though because it took some tinkering with but now it's running even better than it was before. Good luck with your phone though and I guess my point is that you don't have to settle for anything if you don't want to, that's the beauty of being able to do all of this on the first place!
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Thanks for the advice, but to clarify things: there are many posts on this forums and T-mobile forum complaining about poor battery life after updating to KK, so I'm not alone. It's been close to 2 months since I updated and I still can't get my phone to run as efficiently as it was, so I'm frustrated since nothing shows up in wakelock or any other program I tried. One time I can loose 20% overnight, other time 2%, never had anything like that before. I have no idea what are you talking about people paying for rooting their phone, so I just leave it at that. I have few games that have many levels, where you can't go to next level before finishing the lower one, I backed up all programs and data with Titanium and some games didn't restore properly, even with multiple tries leaving me at level one, no big deal since I'm not hardcore gamer, but things like that do happen. As far as updates in general go, I had a lot of bad experiences, once I even lost my desktop computer after updating manufacturer released faulty BIOS and had to buy video card to fix it, even recent Apple's ios 8.01 update was faulty and they had to release update to update, next day, so things not always go as planned. I do not see any visible benefits in KK, all I see is broken SD card access, gone per apps permission settings, patched up root exploit (thank you towelroot for new one, which is already patched in the latest release BTW) and in my case poor battery life, so I'm not impressed and not quiet sure it was worth for me to update. I felt OP should have been warned, that there are some people having some issues after the update. Maybe because I like my Note3 a lot and want it to be perfect, this battery issue annoys me more than it should, but it seems the harder I try, the worst it gets.
I've read 10 pages on this subforum, random talks about updates, LTE fixes, etc...I've yet to find a single thread giving an official fix for random rebooting? I get this at least 4x a day...regardless of charging or not, SD card installed or not, all the latest updates are installed. I can't be the only one and if so, why isn't this a Sticky issue at the beginning?
I and few have others have the unpleasant experience with rebooting. But it was a little relief that this issue is not just with my Note4.
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I had this problem with the early 6.01 stock roms, but it eventually calmed down. Now I get a reboot about once a week. I just assumed the first couple 6.01 stock roms were buggy.
I suppose lots of hardware issues could also cause it.
I bought this phone used for $140, I don't know how long it's been running 6.01, but I'm guessing he knew it had this issue. It happens 3-4 a day for the past two weeks. It'll do it while at rest on or off a charger, middle of use, etc. Aren't they're apps that can log what's going on when it fails so this can be resolved, like acatlog? These phones aren't new anymore, it seems there should be a fix out by now...root and overclock while undervolt, remove bloatware from Sprint Normal Apps or whatever it's called, etc
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I bought this phone used for $140, I don't know how long it's been running 6.01, but I'm guessing he knew it had this issue. It happens 3-4 a day for the past two weeks. It'll do it while at rest on or off a charger, middle of use, etc. Aren't they're apps that can log what's going on when it fails so this can be resolved, like acatlog? These phones aren't new anymore, it seems there should be a fix out by now...root and overclock while undervolt, remove bloatware from Sprint Normal Apps or whatever it's called, etc
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So, what rom is the phone running?
Bone stock at the moment. I'm going to let a Sprint store give it a looking over, but I'm not hopeful as they're usually useless vs what I can find here myself. At minimum I'm going to root it and remove bloatware, but I haven't reviewed roms yet. Unless this thing stored it in memory, but I was doing a copy and paste last time it froze and rebooted, yet I was still able to paste when it came back on...safe to assume that means it's only a soft reboot?
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Bone stock at the moment. I'm going to let a Sprint store give it a looking over, but I'm not hopeful as they're usually useless vs what I can find here myself. At minimum I'm going to root it and remove bloatware, but I haven't reviewed roms yet. Unless this thing stored it in memory, but I was doing a copy and paste last time it froze and rebooted, yet I was still able to paste when it came back on...safe to assume that means it's only a soft reboot?
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What version of stock? If it's old, some of the early 6.01 roms were pretty buggy. The current stock rom is QC1, which just began to roll out this week. Make sure you are on the most current rom.
Last update I received was this week which turned out to only be a security patch.
So, you're on most recent rom. Only suggestion I have is full reset. If that doesn't do it you've got a hardware problem.
So I hope I don't jinx myself, but I think a new battery has solved my issue...with some extra steps Let me explain.
Bought the phone used, it'd reset about 3-4x a day...being charged, being used, whatever. It'd reboot anywhere from 80% down to 40%, no rhyme or reason. Sometimes it simply wouldn't allow me to turn it back on, the light would flash blue while dimming in and out, but wouldn't power up the screen. Plugging it back in and it'd be at 30%-45% no matter what. I downloaded an app called Battery Calibration from Meza (sp?) that had a little Android logo with a % on his chest. Resetting may or may not have completely solved the problem had it not soft reset when trying to get battery stats to refresh themselves. It's my understanding that if it reset, it rewrote a battery stat upon reboot, making this step useless.
I got two new batteries from eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/112344168032?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT), I charged one in the phone and one on an external charger. Even after running with the new battery, it still reboot once and shutoff around 43% reported on the phone itself. Once plugged in and phone still off, it said it was at 15%. I swapped in the other new and charged battery, powered on the phone, plugged it in until it read 100%. I fired up the Battery Calibration app, unplugged the phone as directed and then to force the battery to drain faster, I let YouTube play uninterrupted for about 4hrs. NOT A SINGLE REBOOT!! For the first time with this phone, it actually stayed on and dipped below the 30%'s and gave me a warning when the battery was getting low (yellow icon) and getting critically low (red icon) before it finally powered itself off at 1%. The phone is now charged on the factory fast charger, this time playing Pandora with the screen off and uninterrupted as well...it's currently sitting at around 57% last I checked.
Once it's fully charged, I'll run it like any normal user (texting, music, etc) without being plugged in and if all works well, it won't reboot.
Hopefully this helps someone with the same issue and is a $8 fix since I bought two batteries.
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So, you're on most recent rom. Only suggestion I have is full reset. If that doesn't do it you've got a hardware problem.
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I reset the phone the day I got it.
if your phone often reboot many times in a day, make sure that you don't use Ram kernel V6 or v7 for your Rom, V5 is only version that not make your phone randomly reboot. I try Ram kernel v6 and v7 in Note 7 port rom, note 5 port rom and stock either, and this kernel version always make my phone reboot many many times, unless i flashed v5 or stock kernel, the problem had gone.
I had this problem. I replaced the battery with an official Samsung battery I ordered from Sprint, and the problem went away. Simple as that. No reboots ever since.
Purchased a new battery from Amazon, Samsung OEM, problem solved. Put back old battery guess what it started again but only when battery reached 70% of the original charge. So it must be the battery memory problem.
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Four batteries later and this still happens. Can this be addressed via rooting and then undervolting? I remember phones of the past where people would overclock for speed and undervolt for battery life, but one way too high or too low and you'd either get random rebooting or freezing. This is so god damn annoying!!!!!!