[Q] Downgrade from 23C to 10C? - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a newly purchased verizon LG G3 that updated to 23C on its own. I have already rooted the device following a howto on lgg3 subreddit but in order to install Cyanogenmod the Cyanogenmod wiki says the phone needs to be 12B or lower. I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799647 which says I can restore the phone back to 10C (it doesnt say 10C in the gudie but the user who posted on reddit said it) but I need the LG G3 files and I do not know where to get them. Any advice/recommendations how to get this? Is it possible I can perform a full backup incase something goes wrong I can restore the phone (its rooted already)?

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[Q] No operating system

I ****ed up, badly.
I somehow deleted my OS on my lg g3. I don't know of a tool like odin to flash it back onto my device.
So, does anyone know how to reinstall android on the lgg3?
I have the sprint version LS990
Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089

[Q] Prepare for transition: 10L -> 20E & back.

Hi,
I have 855 (generic European version), V10L, rooted (using towel rooter), no TWRP, all OTA (since July 2014) installed automatically and seamlessly so far (keeping the root).
Today I got a prompt about V20E available upgrade.
I have LG PC Suite up-to-date backups of this device, and anyhow don't have anything that can't be restored, but in general prefer to not reconfigure everything manually.
Did nothing so far.
Questions:
Is it worth to move to V20E, is the version stable enough, worth to wait for V20F or whatever comes next ?
If I decide to proceed now, I want to be able to return to my current state (I do not need to fast switch between multiple roms, just way to get back V10L with my current configuration).
I prefer the way that allows me to keep receiving OTAs, and not to flush next updates manually.
After looking on the forums I though about the following workflows
First (without TWRP):
1. Create one more backup using LG PC Suite.
2. Unroot (just to be safe).
3. Accept OTA.
If I understand correctly I will loose root here, and it can not be restored (for now).
In case of need to restore:
1. Follow LG G3 Stock Firmware (Go Back to Stock) to flash D855 V10A. I hope after flushing it will receive 10L OTA ? Am I right, or I will be stuck with 10A ?
2. Restore my existing backup using LG PC Suite. If I do restore on V10A, will it bring me back to 10L ?
3. Reroot if needed.
Second, with TWRP:
1. Install TWRP.
2. Create full backup from inside TWRP.
3. Get prebumped Lollypop image (I see only V20C here. Where can I get more recent versions ?)
4. Install it and reroot if needed.
In this case I must reject upcoming OTA prompts and flash future prebumped images manually.
To restore
1. Restore full TWRP backup, and I'll get V10L with all my stuff preconfigured.
2. If at this step I want to get rid off TWRP, can I remove it somehow ? Will it restore the phone to the current state (rooted, V10L, able to get OTAs) ?
Sorry for multiple questions but currently the whole process looks a bit unclear for me.
Q: Is it worth to move to V20E, is the version stable enough, worth to wait for V20F or whatever comes next ?
A: No V20H got released today and its probably gonna be available in your region really soon
Note: If you do ever want to install stock lollipop please be aware LG backup cannot save the appdata of any system applications such as chrome etc etc
Q: Follow LG G3 Stock Firmware (Go Back to Stock) to flash D855 V10A. I hope after flushing it will receive 10L OTA ? Am I right, or I will be stuck with 10A ?
A: Check (http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=41) and download the v10 firmware the corrosponds with your country. If the firmware has a 6 in front of it its for the 16GB variant
Q: Where can I get more recent versions?
A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/stock-t2961073
Q: If at this step I want to get rid off TWRP, can I remove it somehow ? Will it restore the phone to the current state (rooted, V10L, able to get OTAs) ?
A: Yes, by flashing stock recovery.img. Restoring your TWRP backup will restore the phone to the current state
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A: Yes, by flashing stock recovery.img. Restoring your TWRP backup will restore the phone to the current state
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Thanks, but I am not sure about this one. What is the process ?
If I flash stock kdz it will remove TWRP, but I will not be able to restore TWRP backup (without TWRP), right ?
Is it possible to first restore TWRP backup, then flash "something" that will replace only TWRP, leaving android OS intact ?
Before saying anything, I would just like to give you a thank you for your post, it's very clear and pleasant to read. Looks like you also did a bit of research before asking so that is also very good :good:
So, I'm not gonna be able to help you a lot about the backup thing because I like to always start fresh when I change Rom or if I want to go back to stock. I backup my data manually and restore what I want to. Using a Google account it will automatically reinstall your apps, but you'll have to reconfigure them manually.
Anyway, I also got a D855, French variant A6FR. (A6 means 16GB) You can check what is the latest version that LG offers you by checking the link bellow. You just put your IMEI at the end and it will give you an XML with information about your phone, like your specific variant (German, UK, ... don't know where you are from) and the latest firmware available for your and a link to download it. For me it says D85520F_00 so it's LL version F.
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=IMEI
So, you can go back to stock using the KDZ method and with the firmware LG offers you (removing root, revovery, ...), but as you probably now, LL is not rootable. To summarize, that is not really interesting unless you want a STOCK STOCK LL.
But you guessed right with the V10A. If you go back to stock with this version, it will remove the root, custom recovery and anything else you have, you will also end up with a completely stock G3, but KitKat G3. There is no obligation to use V10A, if you find a KDZ of a later version you can use it too. Of course we are talking here about V10something not V20 that is LL. Just make sure to use a version suitable to your phone (16/32GB).
Flashing that, LG will be happy and will let you do OTAs. So if you flash V10A, it will give you all the OTAs untill the latest available. So you can go V10A --> V10B --> V10C --> ...... --> V10L --> ..... --> Lollipop
You won't be stuck with V10A.
Now if you want a rooted LL, you will need to use a custom Rom. In the Dev section you can find for example GloudyG3 that is based on the stock LG rom with a few enhancements. It is currently based on V20F and will probably move to V20H which is a brand new version that went up like 2 days ago.
To summarize
KDZ with V10something allows you to go completely stock and give you official OTAs. It can be rooted.
KDZ with V20something works too and will give you OTAs, but is not rootable, so if you want a custom rom, you will have to downgrade to V10, root and install TWRP.
Flashing a KDZ always erase everything on your phone.
If you flash a custom rom, you won't have LG's OTAs so you won't have to worry about rejecting them.
Before doing anything crazy, backup your EFS (basically your IMEI partion) with TWRP and manually. Always nice to have several ways to do it.

[Q] Help need [TWRP]

Earlier today I rooted my LG G3 [VS985] But prior to the root, since verizon has yet to give us the lollipop update, I figured I would update early, I followed jhnom96's guide on youtube ; I rooted with Zedomax's tutorial for lollipop ; After many failed attempts to install TWRP bump for the lg g3 vs985 with flashify and es explorer, I followed all the directions from this guide: a guide by zedomax on how to flash twrp; in which when the device was restarting , I was prompted with this message in the corner of the screen: secure booting error cause boot certification verify lg g3 ; I'm pretty sure it had something to do with me updating to android 5.0.1 early on verizon, but I was wondering there was a solution.
Thanks!
(Sorry, i would post the youtube links but the site won't let me since this is within my first 10 posts, so you'll sadly have to look up each video specifically.)
TWRP hasnt been updated to support Lollipop yet
Well if someone can find a solution somehow, that'd be great.

Invalid Software Package & Rooting questions

Hello XDA,
I got an LG G4 gifted, and as one of the first things I want to do is to root it. However I seem to have quite some difficulties with it.
My previous phone was a Nexus 4, and I simply rooted with 'Nexus Root Toolkit'.
For this phone there appears to be many, different ways to do that.
First thing I need to be sure is what exact model my G4 is.
In 'Phone Info > Hardware' it simply says H815. In the LG Mobile Support Tool it says H815B (Which gives no result on Google). The phone is from Germany if it helps.
Second thing is that it says I can update to SW version v10c. But when I download the update, it simply throws a 'Invalid Software Package' error at the end of it. The LG Mobile Support Tool says I have no update avalaible instead.
Third thing is that I don't remember if I have to unlock the bootloader to root my phone (did that only once on my N4, forgot if it's needed). If yes, can somebody link me to the appropriate page? (I've read around LG itself released a tool to unlock that?) (Also, I will loose all my data IIRC?)
Last thing, obviously, the most appropriate Root guide for my model. I've read many of them, one requires you to have linux on your PC (Which is a nope), others mentions '10c' (which I suppose is the update I'm unable to get). So far I got myself only very confused. (Root voids warranty? IIRC LG still covers phone with root?)
Thanks in advanced for your help
EDIT: Currently trying with LG Bridge software, seems to work and says my phone is H81520A (So I suppose the part after the device code is the 'SW Version' ?).
EDIT2: Apparently updating with that software worked. Now on v10c (Marshmallow 6.0 - Unless there are other updates waiting)
You can indentify your model by adding your IMEI to the following link: csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=
(look for the field buyer)
The unlock process is described in this thread.
But don't fash SuperSu If you are on Android 6.0, because it will fail to boot. First flash an custom kernel (like this) and then SuperSu.
If you're unable to unlock the bootloader, then there is no possibilty to get root on Android 6.0.
Thanks. It says DEU at the buyer line.
D(eutschland)EU(Europe) I suppose.
And thanks for the link. In the kernel page it says 'download 20a or 20b? What's that number? So I need a Kernel that inclused SuperSU as flashing it on its own will cause that problem in few words?
What about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/repack-kernel-root-android-6-0-t3232387
From what it seems, it's a custom kernel + root. Would I still need to unlock the bootloader? Perhaps using the 'LG Site' section from the thread you linked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-root-t3128241)?
The software versions are quite strange on lg phones. 20A was the first test version that was released in poland. The official version now is 20B but phones with a branding have different versions. For example my phone has a vodafone branding and has the version 20A, but it is the same as unbranded 20B. (so it's really strange some times)
Look what is written in the settings under software information.
You need to unlock your bootloader to root your phone on Android 6.0 (this will void your warranty). You're right, it seems that SuperSu is already integrated in the kernel so you don't have flash SuperSu separately. But i am not complete sure because i didn't unlock my bootloader.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I managed to unlock the bootloader, but then I fuffed up..
Accidentally installed SuperSU (Was following that guide, and forgot about what you said).
Now the phone is kinda stuck at the very start, with the LG Logo (Not the animated one, the very first one)...
I'm hopeless now? D:
EDIT
I'm trying to recover with this video (LG G4 KDZ Firmware Restore Unbrick and unroot tutorial -- can't post links yet..)
But the LGFlashTool throws an error at 9% (imgur link -- can't post them fully yet) imgurDOTcom/pR1NYHD
EDIT2
Apparently I'm trying to flash a KDZ with Android 5.x while I'm on 6.0, which is a no. Will try with a 6.0 KDZ if I find one...
Else I hope for LG assistance (Or Amazon support, since the phone is less than 1 week old)
EDIT3
No luck with KDZ, but now the phone is going past to the animated logo, but being stuck there..
EDIT4
This saved me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63843511&postcount=146
Worked perfectly, my phone is back and fully working
Sorry, i wasn't online the last couple of hours, but i'm glad that all worked out for you
X0rzist said:
Sorry, i wasn't online the last couple of hours, but i'm glad that all worked out for you
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No problem, you were of great help.
I'm currently not trying to root until there is a safe procedure to do so for 6.0
I don't think that there will be an easier option in the near future. You can make a backup with twrp and try to flash the kernel again.
Mmm, currently I have only the bootloader unlocked. No root, no custom recovery.
I don't feel like to play more with these stuff in the near future, after I nearly bricked the G4
Perhaps later on.

Understanding the correct KDZ file, help!

Hi,
I purchased the phone in the UK from the network carrier Vodafone. I have done a fair bit of research on the rooting and unrooting process mainly via videos and reading tutorials on XDA.
I would like to root the phone and gain super user access and install some Xposed modules but would also like to be able to unroot and flash back to a stock Vodafone firmware encase I need to claim under warranty. I have been trolling the internet to get the correct KDZ file and found this site (ttp://devtester.ro/projects/lg-firmwares/country.php?country=United+Kingdom). I believe that the correct firmware may be on here but am a little confused on what the suffix and software version means to be honest.
The reason for my confusion is that I updated the firmware to 6.0 Marshmallow through the LG bridge but when I now check my phones software version it states v20b-234-15. I assume this is right but from memory the first software version when I got the phone was something like H81510B_00.
I cant remember exactly what it was before unfortunately but the KDZ files I have found state H81510C_00 (Suffix - AVDFVK) and H81510C_00 (AVDFLR) and this does seem to make sense but I'm thinking it was B instead of C but and not 100% on that.
Do you think these KDZ files would be the correct one to flash back to encase I run in to some problems rooting?
I am also assuming that this KDZ is Android Lollipop and not Marshmallow so is it OK to use this to revert back from Marshmallow?
Thanks and any help would be much appreciated.
Ross
The 10X version are all Lollipop, 20X is marshmallow.
When flashing a KDZ on your phone, what's important is what model your phone is. H815 in your case.
If you want to restore to stock in case something goes wrong, you can find everything here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/guide-lg-g4-stock-firmware-to-stock-kdz-t3107848
In there is a link to this directory: http://storagecow.eu/index.php?dir=Xda/LG+G4/ where you find pretty much all KDZ files for G4 phones.
I'm not that experienced myself, but I rooted my phone just recently and I can share my experience with you.
I have a H815. It was a V10c-TWN-XX version (Taiwan). I updated to Marshmallow with LG Bridge also and the new software version was V20b-TWN-XX.
Marshmallow rooting is not possible on my phone because I can't unlock the bootloader on it. And Marshmallow rooting is only possible with an unlocked bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader is only possible on European phones (http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS). I asked autoprime (renown user and developer here) if I can unlock bootloader after flashing an European KDZ on it. He said no, having European software on it is not enough, it has to be a phone manufactured for the european market. Dont know why, guess because of different hardware.
So, not being able to root MM, I had to revert back to stock (downgrade) using one of the KDZs.
I chose the most recent one in the directory I linked (which is the Poland H81510E). In the "Go Back to Stock" thread I linked the OP says to use LG Flash Tool 2014, which unfortunately doesn't work with Marshmallow. But fret not, it works with LG UP! http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lgup-install-kdz-mm-lp-t3249803
When I tried flashing the KDZ with Flash Tool 2014, the process failed with an error at 5%. It worked flawlessly with LG UP. Here's more information regarding downgrading, but it really isnt hard. Just download + install LG UP. Launch it. Connect your phone. Choose KDZ file. Select option "upgrade". Hit start.
NOTE: after the firmware update was done, the phone rebooted automatically and for me it stuck at at the LG Logo (bootloop). But a simple hard factory reset did it, the phone booted and my new version was 10e-something. With Lollipop 5.1 of course.
After that, I rooted my phone using this pre-rooted image: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/h815-eu-l-p-t-sea-twn-t3176195
and this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/...-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765/
I now have a "H81510e-EUR-XX" Lollipop 5.1 with root (SuperSU 2.49).
I don't really know about Vodafone and if carrier specific firmware is necessary in this case. If not, you could use any 815 firmware.
From the site you have linked with the KDZ files..... it seems they are all the same.
If you check the table for H815 KDZs from Vodafone, there are some 10C and 10D versions. Now I compared the fileKey parameter in the URL to the 10C files and the 10D files and also the bytes of the files.
All the 10C version are identical to each other, same for 10D.
Check out this screenshot I made for you: http://i.imgur.com/Ie0w4us.png
Bytes are also identical, so it's pretty safe to say those are the same files.
Dont know why they are listed several times there. The suffix doesnt matter.
I'd grab a 10D if I were you. But I think the Poland 10E should work, too. Better confirm it with somebody else though.
If you flash your system to 10e, you can use the pre-rooted image I used. Otherwise you will have to inject root yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586. In this method you create an image of your system and inject root into the image, which you then flash back on your phone.

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