upgrade kitkat to lollipop, is it worth it, considering the problems. - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Before i make the upgrade to lollipop i want to know the positives and the negatives, I dont want to flash my UK T800 and am considering doing the OTA upgrade to lollipop when it is released in the UK.
Can you add to the for and against list please., and i will update the list.
Only owners who have the official rom for their country please contribute.
For : third-party apps can write to the microSD.
Against : Battery does not last as long, lagginess, flash led problem, too much white in the settings, Touch Key duration bug
Thanks
John.

Subjective - the battery life is better/no different for a large number of people, especially if you factory reset.

The finger reader works much better. Otherwise, I don't see a lot of difference personally.

LED FLASH
well since i upgraded my device the LED flash became a problem. I need to reboot the device in order for it to work, after a day or two it'll stop working and i need to reboot the device again for it to work. its not the camera app as i tried it with many flashlight apps and the problem still persist. Other than that, Lollipop is ok on the t700. no problem whatsover just the LED flash.

So is it really the lollipop upgrade that is causing the problem, or is it just a coincidence and it`s a hardware fault really, we need some other people who have upgrade to lollipop to confirm the problem if there is one.
John.
kerwin0228 said:
well since i upgraded my device the LED flash became a problem. I need to reboot the device in order for it to work, after a day or two it'll stop working and i need to reboot the device again for it to work. its not the camera app as i tried it with many flashlight apps and the problem still persist. Other than that, Lollipop is ok on the t700. no problem whatsover just the LED flash.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
So is it really the lollipop upgrade that is causing the problem, or is it just a coincidence and it`s a hardware fault really, we need some other people who have upgrade to lollipop to confirm the problem if there is one.
John.
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ok, i just read an old blog about this same problem on the samsung galaxy s4, unfortunately there are no replies on that blog. Anyways, im willing to consider that its a hardware problem but im 100% sure that when im on 4.4.2 kitkat everything works fine. when i updated my device on 5.0.2, thats when my LED flash became messed up but still works and will stop and then needs a reboot. Hopefully its just a software bug or something.

I have the same problem with flash led.Also there are lot of new problems which werent there in kit kat.
Random reboots
No service at network,ie networks disconnects as soon as I lift a call
Random green lines
Call audio drops incall
My phone is tab S SMT-705

Anymore reasons to upgrade to lollipop? it`s 1 for an 4 against at the moment.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Anymore reasons to upgrade to lollipop? it`s 1 for an 4 against at the moment.
John.
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For me I was having terrible lad problems especially in web browsing to the point that I thought of getting rid of it (SM-T800) but after I updated to the Canadian version of lollipop it got much better. I also did a clean install by the way but I was still having the odd lag but I then did a compleat wipe again and installed the German version of lollipop and it is even better. Still way behind my ipad air 2 though.
On a down side the battery has taken a bit of a hit but maybe after a few charges it might get better. My first charge after the install got me 8 hours of screen on time at 9%
As a matter of interest how is the best way to go from lollipop to kitkat? I tried to between the two lollipop installs but it was stuck on the Samsung for ages so I just flashed the German one.

Well if i can root my T800 without tripping knox i will stay on kitkat until lollipop is sorted out, as i have had no problems with it at all in 7 months, I just need root so i can write to my microsd, I tried that kingroot both the apk and the pc version neither worked.
John.

WRETCHED, WRETCHED, WRETCHED! If you have the ability to stay on KitKat, do it. I don't know if it's Lollipop itself or the new rev of TouchWiz but since I was forced to update I can't stand this device. It's just a huge turd. Notifications on the lock screen: all or nothing. you can either have Google Now style notification cards or nothing. You can't just allow the notification panel to be visible on the lock screen (it is, but it doesn't show notification icons). SD card? Forget you ever had one. I don't know what everyone's talking about with "3rd-party apps can use the SD card now" but I can't even get a file browser to create a folder on the card. Forget about using it as a default storage location (no problem before the update). The new blinding-white color scheme is both hideous and obnoxious. I don't care how much battery it conserves on the new AMOLED display; its fugly and its harsh. Like turning your 4g radio on and off? Get ready to click through THREE LAYERS of menu to get to it, and forget about using Tasker (or any other app) to automate that. In fact, you should pretty much give up on Tasker (or similar) automation entirely unless you manage to root your device.

If i have auto update not checked in the settings in kitkat, will i still get an lollipop notification when it is eventually release for my uk t800 if it still has all the problems, I dont want any update messages that i cannot remove on my taskbar.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Well if i can root my T800 without tripping knox i will stay on kitkat until lollipop is sorted out, as i have had no problems with it at all in 7 months, I just need root so i can write to my microsd, I tried that kingroot both the apk and the pc version neither worked.
John.
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John, looking in the general section for a guide to rooting without tripping knox. I used it successfully on my SM-T800. Pay particular attention to the version of KitKat you require to get kingroot working in the OP. I suspect you are on a later version. Make sure to read the full guide and thread. Even though the guide gets you to Lollipop you can skip the last steps and remain on kitkat then disable updates in the settings.
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thorvindr said:
WRETCHED, WRETCHED, WRETCHED! If you have the ability to stay on KitKat, do it. I don't know if it's Lollipop itself or the new rev of TouchWiz but since I was forced to update I can't stand this device. It's just a huge turd. Notifications on the lock screen: all or nothing. you can either have Google Now style notification cards or nothing. You can't just allow the notification panel to be visible on the lock screen (it is, but it doesn't show notification icons). SD card? Forget you ever had one. I don't know what everyone's talking about with "3rd-party apps can use the SD card now" but I can't even get a file browser to create a folder on the card. Forget about using it as a default storage location (no problem before the update). The new blinding-white color scheme is both hideous and obnoxious. I don't care how much battery it conserves on the new AMOLED display; its fugly and its harsh. Like turning your 4g radio on and off? Get ready to click through THREE LAYERS of menu to get to it, and forget about using Tasker (or any other app) to automate that. In fact, you should pretty much give up on Tasker (or similar) automation entirely unless you manage to root your device.
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Why don't your just refresh KitKat with Odin? The downgrade will not trip Knox assuming it is not already tripped for some other reason. Once flashed you immediately need to boot into recovery and wipe user data or you will go into a boot loop. The default in Odin is to boot the device once a flash is completed and that must be disabled.
I made that mistake and got stuck in a boot loop. It was tricky to use the key combination to reboot the immediately switch to the recovery key combo so I could wipe user data. For a few minutes I though I had bricked but all was well. I downgraded so I could root it hour tripping Knox following the guide in the general section. The first few steps in that guide and other posts in that thread may be of benefit if you choose to downgrade.
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I dont really want to flash, just to get root while i still have warranty on my T800, I will wait for an root that does not require a flash.
Thanks.
John.

3DSammy said:
Why don't your just refresh KitKat with Odin? The downgrade will not trip Knox assuming it is not already tripped for some other reason. Once flashed you immediately need to boot into recovery and wipe user data or you will go into a boot loop. The default in Odin is to boot the device once a flash is completed and that must be disabled.
I made that mistake and got stuck in a boot loop. It was tricky to use the key combination to reboot the immediately switch to the recovery key combo so I could wipe user data. For a few minutes I though I had bricked but all was well. I downgraded so I could root it hour tripping Knox following the guide in the general section. The first few steps in that guide and other posts in that thread may be of benefit if you choose to downgrade.
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How? What guide did you use? It seems I need firmware specific to the t807a. Do yo know where I can find that?

Is the Samsung stock video player any different in lollipop, As in kitkat it does not support ac3 or dts when previous Samsung tablets did, saved some money on the licenses. :crying:
John.

Anyone who does not want to update to lollipop have a look at the link below, you can even remove the OTA notice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
John.

thorvindr said:
How? What guide did you use? It seems I need firmware specific to the t807a. Do yo know where I can find that?
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Here's the link to the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...nox-kitkat-t3129484/post61214326#post61214326
The first part of the post include a link to a site with many Samsung firmware releases for multiple models. I don't know if a t807a is covered. Good luck.
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3DSammy said:
Here's the link to the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...nox-kitkat-t3129484/post61214326#post61214326
The first part of the post include a link to a site with many Samsung firmware releases for multiple models. I don't know if a t807a is covered. Good luck.
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That's the guide I'm trying to use. Unfortunately, that website seems to have firmware for every variant of the T805 except the T807a. I'm hesitant to try it with firmware from a similar variant because I know there are subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) differences in the actual hardware.

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That's the guide I'm trying to use. Unfortunately, that website seems to have firmware for every variant of the T805 except the T807a. I'm hesitant to try it with firmware from a similar variant because I know there are subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) differences in the actual hardware.
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I feel your caution is wise and I would not personally flash any ROM that was not specific to your devices model stock or custom. I feel your pain, hopefully someone will post a link to the firmware. Why Samsung does not do that itself like Google does for Nexus devices I have no idea.

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[Q] root on p607t?

Am I just being stupid or is there a way to root the new note 10.1 2014 edition on t-mobile's network? The model is SM-P607T & I don't see that listed anywhere on odin/s list or anything. Or is it just too soon from release?
Extra info: Baseband P607TUVUANE2, Android 4.4.2, Kernal 3.4.0-1433887
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Am I just being stupid or is there a way to root the new note 10.1 2014 edition on t-mobile's network? The model is SM-P607T & I don't see that listed anywhere on odin/s list or anything. Or is it just too soon from release?
Extra info: Baseband P607TUVUANE2, Android 4.4.2, Kernal 3.4.0-1433887
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I am looking for this as well since i got one today. It looks like it is the same thing as the P605 which is LTE. The non LTE ones do not use the Qualcomm chip. It also looks like 4.4.2 just came out for the P605 not to long ago and there really isn't anything out for it yet. Bigbuff is talking about updating TWRP to 4.4.2 for the P605. At that time I am sure we will get a recovery and be able to flash SuperSU. If it is out already I have not found it and would like to know as well.
OK so it's not just me then. Usually by the time I get a device all this stuff is out all ready.
I wonder if you can use the international version P605. That's got the qualcomm chip with LTE. I have the 605v and there's been no development for it. Verizon has locked the bootloader, as they tend to do, so we are stuck. If you understand Knox and how that works I would try the P605 method. I tried it on mine and it failed and it didn't cause any damage.
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Have you guys tried to put your tablets into download mode. My underdstanding you need to hold down volume down plus the power button for three seconds, but when I try this mine boots into regular mode and not the download mode. Can someone else try this and see if you get a different outcome?
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Haven't tried it but you have to add home to that as well I thought. Yeah, Google search:
Boot your phone into Download Mode by Pressing and Holding the Volume Down + Home + Power buttons at the same time till you see a warning message on your screen. You’ll be asked to hit the Volume Up to continue into download mode.
draigons said:
Have you guys tried to put your tablets into download mode. My underdstanding you need to hold down volume down plus the power button for three seconds, but when I try this mine boots into regular mode and not the download mode. Can someone else try this and see if you get a different outcome?
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its Power + Vol-D + Home gets you to a screen that says vol up to get to download mode or vol down to reboot. I can get to Download mode by doing that. I am going to try doing the P605 root they have out and see how that goes in asec. Make sure you down the Full Odin Firmware.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=29807
So you can use this if you need to.
Good luck! I'm not adventurous enough to try it.
WARNING: By doing this your Spen will not work anymore
Ok here is how to root the P607T right now. It is the same way as Root for the P605 right now. After reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2766394&page=9
on post 88. Someone with the P605 used the P905 CF-Auto root to root their 605.
here are the steps
1. Download to your PC http://download.chainfire.eu/385/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-viennalte-viennaltexx-smp905.zip
2. Reboot your P607T into Download Mode. You can do this by turning off the tablet. then hold Home + Vol-D + Power you will get a screen that says Press Vol D to get into Download mode.
3. Plug your P607T into your PC.
4. Open Odin 3.07 which is included with the down you already did. You should see a Blue tab that says something like Com1.
5. Make sure the only thing that is checked is Auto-reboot.
6. Click PDA and file the CF-Auto-Root-viennalte-viennaltexx-smp905.tar that was in the Zip file you just unziped.
7. Click start and wait.
Your tablet will now reboot into a P905 recovery and flash SuperSU. It can take awhile for the reboot into recovery to happen so just wait. After this is all done your tablet will boot back into Android. Go into the play store and update SuperSU. SuperSU will keep FCing until you update it in the Playstore.
Now here is the problem we run into if you do all this. After CF-Auto Root is done it is going to put a P905 recovery on your Tablet not a P607T recovery. If you want to get your P607T recovery back for future OTAs you need to Odin the full Firmware for the P607T which you can find here. http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=29807 Once they get a working TWRP for KitKat and the P605 we should be able to get everything else we need to get back our old recovery.
Now another problem That I have found as well is that the Spen does not work after doing this. I do not really care because I do not really use the Spen. I know there is a fix in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2766394&page=9 but I have yet to get it to work because I do not know how to type the *#2663# in phone app and then update wacom firmware from kernel to get the Spen to work. We do not have a Phone app to do that. So you are warned that your Spen will not work after doing this.
Other Wise enjoy root until a better way is out.
LTE still work?
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LTE still work?
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No clue I don't use LTE I just opened a 200mb line to get the Tablet on EIP. I will pop in my sim when i get home from work and check it for u.
Edit: yes lte still works I am still trying to fix the spen however that still doesn't work.
Also looks like TWRP has a working recovery now for the P607T. here is a link to a odin file for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53138918&postcount=776 I would use that and just flash SuperSU with it. should give you root and hopefully a working Spen.
May be possible to use mobile odin pro and inject root to the stock firmware, without tripping the knox flag?
This works on the note 3, upgrading to 4.3.
Edit: mobile odin requires to have already root, I used it when upgrading to 4.3
to not lose root.
Thanks.
To late... I already tripped stupid knox. hehe I love the samsung note lines but I really REALLY hate knox! Just a reason for them to deny warranty, or else it'd be optional.
That odin file worked great. Now to wait for some custom roms.....
Just jumping in on the got-this-yesterday train and glad to see some folks have jumped on ahead of me. Thanks for the information you've all provided thus far. I'm hopeful that development on this thing will be strong, I'm liking the device so far.
I'm interested in rooting ASAP but I've been out of the Android loop for a little while, so this KNOX thing freaks me out a bit (I'm just getting familiar with what it is). Seems like it is a simple warantee related thing. Is it irreversible? How common is flashing a custom ROM without triggering it? Does it affect usability at all to have it triggered?
I'm interested if flashing this this evening but not really sure what I'm in for as far as KNOX.
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Just jumping in on the got-this-yesterday train and glad to see some folks have jumped on ahead of me. Thanks for the information you've all provided thus far. I'm hopeful that development on this thing will be strong, I'm liking the device so far.
I'm interested in rooting ASAP but I've been out of the Android loop for a little while, so this KNOX thing freaks me out a bit (I'm just getting familiar with what it is). Seems like it is a simple warantee related thing. Is it irreversible? How common is flashing a custom ROM without triggering it? Does it affect usability at all to have it triggered?
I'm interested if flashing this this evening but not really sure what I'm in for as far as KNOX.
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Edit: Originally used root de la vega method for the note3. Mobile odin requires root.
The procedure to inject root with mobile odin pro is on the international note 3 forum.
Worked for my tmo note 3 upgrading to 4.3 and not lose root, but only flashing the original firmware.
Any custom rom, custom recovery or custom kernel will trip knox.
This is not tested yet on the note 10.1 2014.
Will check on the mobile odin thread or Chainfire's blog.
Tripping knox for now is irreversible and voids the warranty.
Normal device operation is not affected. What is lost is the security feature.
Only a concern if your company uses knox, and you use your device for work.
I am going to wait a few weeks, hoping for a no knox tripping root method,
to keep the warranty. But I know that eventually will not care on tripping knox.
Well fudge! I never thought to test the s pen before I rooted. Guess what, it doesn't work.
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Well fudge! I never thought to test the s pen before I rooted. Guess what, it doesn't work.
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I posted a big huge warning sign saying that the s pen would not work if you rooted
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No I mean it didn't work hardware wise. I thought the touch screen was off by 1/4th an inch but never thought to try the s pen before last night. I even flashed back to stock and it was the same way. Where ever you touched with the s pen it'd either do nothing or it'd randomly draw in a tiny little square up near a corner. The touch screen was really noticeable trying to click on links in chrome cuz I'd always missing, but I thought it was me till I realized the s pen didn't work either. Then I figured it was just the hardware was messed up. Messing around in the drawing app proved that the touch screen was off to a corner by 1/4th an inch. Even if I turned the device around it always was off to that same physical corner.
Oh! Also, I used the new Odin file btw. I assume the s pen works on that one. Never did use the one for the P905, that you posted with that warning.

Just purchased Tab S 10.5... Hyped

What's up fellas. Just picked up a 10.5 tab S (should be delivered tomorrow)
Had a few questions..
I am definitely going to root as I need my titanium backup among others.. Is xposed working on this device?
Mainly for YouTube ad block.
I will be using this as a movie watching device Mainly. Are there any stock based roms that are recommended? I don't want to lose features like multi window by flashing CM.
Also.. I would think a holo or aosp rom theme would be clutch on this device bc of the battery saving factors of an amoled screen, is there anything recommended?
Lastly, any battery saving tips? I usually watch my movies & shows with airplane mode on my Nexus 7, 10 and iPad. Seems to really make a huge difference..
Thanks and I look forward to helping out in this community.
Xposed does work on this device. Stock rooted should be fine for ya, you just need to remove some bloat to remove lag. To save battery, turn adaptative display off and set it to cimema because your watching movies and it would waste battery trying to adjust the tone all the time. Also turn off auto brightness and set it to one that is bright for you. And finally greenify is a good app to hibernate apps after you open them and will stay hibernative until you open it. I got a couple more but cant remeber them right now. Anyway hope you enjoy your tab s! You will see me around the q and a fourms and general fourms most times if you need anything. What version of the tab s did you get? Ex wifi, lte, etc
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Xposed does work on this device. Stock rooted should be fine for ya, you just need to remove some bloat to remove lag. To save battery, turn adaptative display off and set it to cimema because your watching movies and it would waste battery trying to adjust the tone all the time. Also turn off auto brightness and set it to one that is bright for you. And finally greenify is a good app to hibernate apps after you open them and will stay hibernative until you open it. I got a couple more but cant remeber them right now. Anyway hope you enjoy your tab s! You will see me around the q and a fourms and general fourms most times if you need anything. What version of the tab s did you get? Ex wifi, lte, etc
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Thanks for the tips. I have a note 3 so I'm Sorta familiar with the touchwiz bs. I saw a thread on which apps are "safe" to freeze with titanium backup.
Usually someone makes a stock based rom with all the bloat removed but I haven't really seen one yet unless I'm missing it.
I purchased the Tab S 10.5 as I was upgrading my Nexus 7. I was not happy with the Nexus 9. It was built like garbage and had bad battery life and screen bleed. Very disappointed in HTC.
I also purchased the official S book cover which should look absolutely gorgeous.
Is the Chainfire CF auto root the way to go?
Again... Thanks.
FormeriPhoney said:
Thanks for the tips. I have a note 3 so I'm Sorta familiar with the touchwiz bs. I saw a thread on which apps are "safe" to freeze with titanium backup.
Usually someone makes a stock based rom with all the bloat removed but I haven't really seen one yet unless I'm missing it.
I purchased the Tab S 10.5 as I was upgrading my Nexus 7. I was not happy with the Nexus 9. It was built like garbage and had bad battery life and screen bleed. Very disappointed in HTC.
I also purchased the official S book cover which should look absolutely gorgeous.
Is the Chainfire CF auto root the way to go?
Again... Thanks.
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Is it the wifi version? Sm-t800? There is a thread on safe apps to delete but someone said it bricked their tablet doing so. Just know what your deleting and it should be fine. There is one debloated rom but the developer has been really busy so he cant fix some bugs. If you have the supported version for cf auto root, then thats the way to root. Before rooting though, please wait till you root as it will viod your warrenty. Wait like a couple weeks incase you have a deffective device. Reports of bad battery happened on this tablet becuase of a loose battery connector. You should get about 8hours screen on time, so if you dont get that much battery life then it might be deffective. Anyway if everything is good root with cfautoroot. I cant wait till we get Andriod L though! And enjoy your tab s.!
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Is it the wifi version? Sm-t800? There is a thread on safe apps to delete but someone said it bricked their tablet doing so. Just know what your deleting and it should be fine. There is one debloated rom but the developer has been really busy so he cant fix some bugs. If you have the supported version for cf auto root, then thats the way to root. Before rooting though, please wait till you root as it will viod your warrenty. Wait like a couple weeks incase you have a deffective device. Reports of bad battery happened on this tablet becuase of a loose battery connector. You should get about 8hours screen on time, so if you dont get that much battery life then it might be deffective. Anyway if everything is good root with cfautoroot. I cant wait till we get Andriod L though! And enjoy your tab s.!
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Yes.. It is the wifi version.
I'm very familiar with root and rom. Been flashing roms since 2011. Everything from Samsung, Nexus, HTC and LG so I'm familiar with adb to Odin as well as wugfresh toolkit
I'll definitely run it through its paces before tripping Knox and voiding the warranty.. Good looks
FormeriPhoney said:
Yes.. It is the wifi version.
I'm very familiar with root and rom. Been flashing roms since 2011. Everything from Samsung, Nexus, HTC and LG so I'm familiar with adb to Odin as well as wugfresh toolkit
I'll definitely run it through its paces before tripping Knox and voiding the warranty.. Good looks
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Lol. I was a complete noob when i got my tab s in july. I knew nothing about andriod and only apple stuff. I never knew you could install custom recoveries and roms until i got my tab s. Anyway we do have a recovery, its twrp. Twrp 2.7.7.something or somesort is the most recommended build since the latest update has some bugs.
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Lol. I was a complete noob when i got my tab s in july. I knew nothing about andriod and only apple stuff. I never knew you could install custom recoveries and roms until i got my tab s. Anyway we do have a recovery, its twrp. Twrp 2.7.7.something or somesort is the most recommended build since the latest update has some bugs.
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I haven't had an ios device since the 3gs lol.
Can you link me to the twrp thread. I can't seem to find it..
Also.. Are we flashing that in Odin as well?
FormeriPhoney said:
I haven't had an ios device since the 3gs lol.
Can you link me to the twrp thread. I can't seem to find it..
Also.. Are we flashing that in Odin as well?
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Nope just needs root! Just search twrp in the play store, and it the install, and your device should be chagalwifi if im correct. And done. Now you just have to boot in recovery and it should be there. Heres the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2817100
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Nope just needs root! Just search twrp in the play store, and it the install, and your device should be chagalwifi if im correct. And done. Now you just have to boot in recovery and it should be there. Heres the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2817100
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That's crazy. I've never seen that before where you don't have to flash twrp in Odin on a Samsung device. Crazy.
Do you know if quick boot app works to reboot into recovery or download mode
FormeriPhoney said:
That's crazy. I've never seen that before where you don't have to flash twrp in Odin on a Samsung device. Crazy.
Do you know if quick boot app works to reboot into recovery or download mode
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For me I dont use quick boot. But i have a custom reboot menu and it should be the same. Rebooting into recovery works with an app but rebooting into download mode with the app doesnt work. You have to do it with the vol down, home, power buttons at the same time when your turning your tab s on. And yeah custom recoveries are easy to install now. As long you have root, it just replaces a recovery file and done.
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That's crazy. I've never seen that before where you don't have to flash twrp in Odin on a Samsung device. Crazy.
Do you know if quick boot app works to reboot into recovery or download mode
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I used Flashify to flash TWRP and it couldn't be easier.
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I used Flashify to flash TWRP and it couldn't be easier.
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I am considering all options.. Thanks fellas
FormeriPhoney said:
I am considering all options.. Thanks fellas
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Good thing about Flashify is it allows you to make a backup of the stock recovery.
Reckoning said:
Good thing about Flashify is it allows you to make a backup of the stock recovery.
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I forgot to make a backup of stock recovery. Lol I only use twrp. But it is recommended to backup stock recovery.
Reckoning said:
Good thing about Flashify is it allows you to make a backup of the stock recovery.
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Never used that app before but I'm gonna check it out as soon as i get the device
Sorry to jump in but I just want to make sure.....
You are getting the Exynos chipset version?
At the moment ONLY the Exynos chipset can be rooted......
Congrats on your new purchase. If your as happy as i am with my tab s you are in for a treat. The screen is awesome!
pinsb said:
Sorry to jump in but I just want to make sure.....
You are getting the Exynos chipset version?
At the moment ONLY the Exynos chipset can be rooted......
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Yes I believe only the carrier versions are snapdragon. All the wifi models are Exynos
Bushcrafter said:
Congrats on your new purchase. If your as happy as i am with my tab s you are in for a treat. The screen is awesome!
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Thank you sir. Looking forward to it. Does this tablet suffer from the non reading sdcard bc of Kitkat? I read that there is an app fix for it? I'm currently looking for a good SanDisk card deal. I bought the 32gb version so a 32gb card should suffice
if your gonna but a tab s 10.5 soon see this. While its a semi loop hole and ymmv, I was the buyer and they had no problem reducing the price on a brand new tab
http://slickdeals.net/f/7367948-sam...zzling-white-379-better-than-black-friday?v=1

[Q] LG G3 D855: Should i root? (below are my reasons)

Hey everyone, first time android user here.
Got the LG G3 3 weeks ago... I had kitkat at first, but immediately and i mean IMMEDIATELY updated to 5.0 Lollipop. Anyway, ive looked at some rom videos and they seem cool and much smoother than the current stock.
My major reasons for wanting to root are:
-Battery life is honestly dismal for me (i was a nokia qwerty phone user for 5 years haha), and ive looked around and i know that 3000mAh is a great capacity but the QHD screen is obviously killing the battery. Sooo i want to get a resolution changer to reduce the resolution when i find myself needing more battery than pixels. Will changing the resoultion frequently (like maybe once or twice a day?) be bad for the phone?
-Adaway obviously... Does adaway work for ALL apps? Including games n fb? I tried adblock plus but i couldnt get the port numbers running on my university wifi (where i spend all my time)
-I got the 3gb ram over the 2gb ram one to eliminate any and i mean ANY lag... And while its reasonably lag free, ive had a few stutters and; this is fairly disappointing; entering homescreen from any app, i will always be greeted by a black screen for a second and loading widgets (especially the default accuweather). I would very much like to solve that problem. Same goes for the app tray
-I still want some of the Lg default apps n features.. Will i lose them if i get a rom? eg gesture selfie, knock code
Sorry for the looong post guys, but any help is much appreciated.
Also, if i do decide to root, can i still use towelroot? I saw it in the "root info" tab for LG G3 but he said it might not work or something. I also have purpledrake downloaded and ready to go, just waiting for feedback from u guys.
LG G3 D855. Software: V20h-TWN-XXX
P.S. After update to lollipop, i dindt get the new buttons (triangle, circle, square). I was using a russian vpn (hideman) to play some online game, and i suddenly got software update notification (to the above mentioned). After that i got the triangle, circle, square. I'm in Malaysia btw.
Thanks in advance
MaxMusaab said:
Hey everyone, first time android user here.
Got the LG G3 3 weeks ago... I had kitkat at first, but immediately and i mean IMMEDIATELY updated to 5.0 Lollipop. Anyway, ive looked at some rom videos and they seem cool and much smoother than the current stock.
My major reasons for wanting to root are:
-Battery life is honestly dismal for me (i was a nokia qwerty phone user for 5 years haha), and ive looked around and i know that 3000mAh is a great capacity but the QHD screen is obviously killing the battery. Sooo i want to get a resolution changer to reduce the resolution when i find myself needing more battery than pixels. Will changing the resoultion frequently (like maybe once or twice a day?) be bad for the phone?
-Adaway obviously... Does adaway work for ALL apps? Including games n fb? I tried adblock plus but i couldnt get the port numbers running on my university wifi (where i spend all my time)
-I got the 3gb ram over the 2gb ram one to eliminate any and i mean ANY lag... And while its reasonably lag free, ive had a few stutters and; this is fairly disappointing; entering homescreen from any app, i will always be greeted by a black screen for a second and loading widgets (especially the default accuweather). I would very much like to solve that problem. Same goes for the app tray
-I still want some of the Lg default apps n features.. Will i lose them if i get a rom? eg gesture selfie, knock code
Sorry for the looong post guys, but any help is much appreciated.
Also, if i do decide to root, can i still use towelroot? I saw it in the "root info" tab for LG G3 but he said it might not work or something. I also have purpledrake downloaded and ready to go, just waiting for feedback from u guys.
LG G3 D855. Software: V20h-TWN-XXX
P.S. After update to lollipop, i dindt get the new buttons (triangle, circle, square). I was using a russian vpn (hideman) to play some online game, and i suddenly got software update notification (to the above mentioned). After that i got the triangle, circle, square. I'm in Malaysia btw.
Thanks in advance
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Changing the resolution won't improve battery life but it might improve your performance.
With my g3 I always get around 4 hrs screen on and I thing it's enough. Just disable location and sync if you want to save battery.
For rooting towelroot didn't work form me so I used purpledrake (after downgrading to kitkat) but ymmv.
androidDany said:
Changing the resolution won't improve battery life but it might improve your performance.
With my g3 I always get around 4 hrs screen on and I thing it's enough. Just disable location and sync if you want to save battery.
For rooting towelroot didn't work form me so I used purpledrake (after downgrading to kitkat) but ymmv.
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are u sure about the resolution not affecting battery? Ive seen a video of a dude who almost doubled his on screen time from that, he did say though that stock LG apps would crash and alternative apps would be needed.
do i need to downgrade *sigh* sounds tiring.. how do i do it?
Read this article in regards to battery life after changing resolution.
MaxMusaab said:
are u sure about the resolution not affecting battery? Ive seen a video of a dude who almost doubled his on screen time from that, he did say though that stock LG apps would crash and alternative apps would be needed.
do i need to downgrade *sigh* sounds tiring.. how do i do it?
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Yes you need to downgrade using a kitkat KDZ, but after rooting you can flash a bumped lollipop ROM and get lollipop with root
Maybe using 1080p you could gain some mins of battery, but don't expect a big change
spacebar76 said:
Read...in regards to battery life after changing resolution.
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ohhh... huh, it made perfect sense that reducing pixels would increase battery life. Ah well, at least there's a significant performance increase, i still think it would be worth a shot. Does changing the resolution harm the phone, u think?
May i ask why its necessary to downgrade b4 rooting if we're just gonna lollipop it back up?
Also, do these 1 touch root apps such as purple drake also get me a custom recovery tool, nandroid backup etc that ive been reading a lot about?
MaxMusaab said:
May i ask why its necessary to downgrade b4 rooting if we're just gonna lollipop it back up?
Also, do these 1 touch root apps such as purple drake also get me a custom recovery tool, nandroid backup etc that ive been reading a lot about?
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You need to downgrade since lollipop can't be rooted with purple deake or other root tools, the custom ROMs are "bumped " because they have a little modification that allows to root.
No' they don't get you a custom recovery (twrp) but after you are rooted you can easily flash a custom recovery with Flashify from playstore.
Reducing the resolution won't give you more battery life because you are not using less pixels (there are always 2560x1440 pixels) you are only telling the gpu to render at a smaller resolution.
androidDany said:
You need to downgrade since lollipop can't be rooted with purple deake or other root tools, the custom ROMs are "bumped " because they have a little modification that allows to root.
No' they don't get you a custom recovery (twrp) but after you are rooted you can easily flash a custom recovery with Flashify from playstore.
Reducing the resolution won't give you more battery life because you are not using less pixels (there are always 2560x1440 pixels) you are only telling the gpu to render at a smaller resolution.
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ok... think i get most of it.
Well then if i dont use a one touch root tool and instead do the thingies with the adb, fastboot (im not really sure what im saying here, i just remember this stuff from the root video provide by xda), do i get a custom recovery etc? And can i then install roms? And how do i do... ALL of this exactly?
Also, is there anyway then to get the phone to put out less pixels then? FullHD seems fine to me
MaxMusaab said:
ok... think i get most of it.
Well then if i dont use a one touch root tool and instead do the thingies with the adb, fastboot (im not really sure what im saying here, i just remember this stuff from the root video provide by xda), do i get a custom recovery etc? And can i then install roms? And how do i do... ALL of this exactly?
Also, is there anyway then to get the phone to put out less pixels then? FullHD seems fine to me
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Pixels are physical so you can't just remove some of them. Downgrading to kitkat is the olnly way to root
MaxMusaab said:
ok... think i get most of it.
Well then if i dont use a one touch root tool and instead do the thingies with the adb, fastboot (im not really sure what im saying here, i just remember this stuff from the root video provide by xda), do i get a custom recovery etc? And can i then install roms? And how do i do... ALL of this exactly?
Also, is there anyway then to get the phone to put out less pixels then? FullHD seems fine to me
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Rooting with purpledrake lite won't give you custom recovery.. It's easy just flash using Flashify from playstore. But i suggest that after downgrading to KK and rooting, download supersu first then everything follows..oh btw there's already twrp that works on our phone. Just download then flash it. Good luck!
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Okay... Sooo first im starting with my pure lollipop stock, then downgrade then root then supersu right? Where does flashify come in exactly? And what's it do lol. And when do i get a custom recovery tool and which do u recommend, and what does that do lol
Sorry i dont actually know anything about rooting
MaxMusaab said:
Okay... Sooo first im starting with my pure lollipop stock, then downgrade then root then supersu right? Where does flashify come in exactly? And what's it do lol. And when do i get a custom recovery tool and which do u recommend, and what does that do lol
Sorry i dont actually know anything about rooting
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OK
First you downgrade to KitKat, then you install flashify (after rooting with purpledrake) from the playstore so that you can flash a custom recovery like TWRP. After installing the recovery you can flash a lollipop bumped rom. Finally after you are in the lollipop rom you can install superSU (if your rom doesn't already have it).
MaxMusaab said:
Okay... Sooo first im starting with my pure lollipop stock, then downgrade then root then supersu right? Where does flashify come in exactly? And what's it do lol. And when do i get a custom recovery tool and which do u recommend, and what does that do lol
Sorry i dont actually know anything about rooting
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Flashify enables you to have a custom recovery wherein you can wipe, or install a different rom. You can get it via playstore. Of course you have to grant flashify SuperSU access then select flash recovery image then select the file that you have downloaded and viola! You now have custom recovery. For recovery, go with TWRP.
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Flash Stock Firmware using Samsung Smart Switch Windows/MAC

Samsung has released a replacement for KIES to use on newer phones. It's called Samsung Smart Switch. There are the App versions you run on the phone, and there are the Windows and Mac versions you run on your PC. This is a run through on the Windows PC on how to restore your Firmware in case you've Borked your phone. I actually recommend you do this, even if you have not done anything wrong to your phone. My phone ran really hot, laggy, and the battery life was horrible. After flashing the stock firmware, it now runs cool, smooth, and fast.
Stuck at 51%???
Download HotSpot Shield's Free version and set your server to the Default US server, then try again. http://www.hotspotshield.com/
Thanks to @flameinthefire and his persistence to figure out the VPN fix.
Download Smartswitch for Windows
Download Smartswitch for Mac
Video Tutorial
The firmware wipe with the OTA included seems to have cleared my battery issues, even with root.
Will do shortly
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Any chance to extract stock firmware
Thanks for this. I rooted my Edge and it was having the deep sleep issues so I needed to go back to stock and start over. I really hope the rooting issues will be fixed soon, but as of now going back to a fresh start isn't so bad.
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SuperSport said:
Samsung has released a replacement for KIES to use on newer phones. It's called Samsung Smart Switch. There are the App versions you run on the phone, and there are the Windows and Mac versions you run on your PC. This is a run through on the Windows PC on how to restore your Firmware in case you've Borked your phone. I actually recommend you do this, even if you have not done anything wrong to your phone. My phone ran really hot, laggy, and the battery life was horrible. After flashing the stock firmware, it now runs cool, smooth, and fast.
Download Smartswitch for Windows
Download Smartswitch for Mac
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Did you loose root after doing this ? Did you re-root if you did loose it ?
Yes, root is lost. No, I didn't re-root. Currently, I'm happy with how my phone is running. Others have rooted again and then replaced recovery with stock And they claim good results.
Thanks for this!! Just to verify, with this tool including the update, root still works correct? I came from att to t-mobile just so I could root this phone. So I want to make sure I'll be able to immediately root again lol! I haven't taken the update yet.
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luigic81 said:
Thanks for this!! Just to verify, with this tool including the update, root still works correct? I came from att to t-mobile just so I could root this phone. So I want to make sure I'll be able to immediately root again lol! I haven't taken the update yet.
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I personally have not rooted again after using this. Others have said they rooted again and the phone stayed working well. I believe they replaced the buggy Recovery with the Stock Recovery afterwards. Not sure if that has anything to do with stability or not.
I've install Smart Switch and my S6 Edge connects fine but when I click on more and Emergency software recovery and initialisation the app hangs (freezes) and does nothing. The app is non responsive it just sits there until I force close.
kmatthews said:
I've install Smart Switch and my S6 Edge connects fine but when I click on more and Emergency software recovery and initialisation the app hangs (freezes) and does nothing. The app is non responsive it just sits there until I force close.
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Is there a User Account Control notification on the task bar waiting to be clicked?
How is battery after rooting again
SuperSport said:
Is there a User Account Control notification on the task bar waiting to be clicked?
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No, when I click more and Emergency the app turns slightly grey and sits there
kmatthews said:
No, when I click more and Emergency the app turns slightly grey and sits there
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Maybe uninstall and re-install. That sounds like a software/pc issue.
Do you get the same thing if your phone is not plugged in? If it works without the phone plugged in, maybe try another cable. Or at least confirm you have the Original Samsung Cable being used.
I've done that several times already and it still does the same thing. Thanks for helping
kmatthews said:
I've done that several times already and it still does the same thing. Thanks for helping
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What about right clicking on the Icon and Running as Administrator? Also, have you confirmed the drivers are installed correctly and showing in Device Manager when your phone is plugged in? "SAMSUNG Android ADB Interface"
My experience is less than perfect. I did a backup using SS, did the "emergency software recovery and initialisation", and then restored my backup using SS. The backup supposedly restored successfully, but all it did was restore my apps. My homescreen is not restored despite selecting all, nor are my 5 different google accounts restored. Wish I knew this would happen - I'd have thought twice about doing it....
ShermCraig said:
My experience is less than perfect. I did a backup using SS, did the "emergency software recovery and initialisation", and then restored my backup using SS. The backup supposedly restored successfully, but all it did was restore my apps. My homescreen is not restored despite selecting all, nor are my 5 different google accounts restored. Wish I knew this would happen - I'd have thought twice about doing it....
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That's good info for others. I set mine up as a new device when I went back. Only thing I recovered was my text messages.
I've found in the past that when recovering, it sometimes brings back the issues from before, so I rarely restore anything except messages. I take screen shots of my home screens and the app drawer so I can put it back manually as I had it. I find this gives me less future headaches.
Also, for what it's worth, the S6 is NOT the only phone I've had that benefits from a fresh flash when new. I've had Windows Phones and other Android Phones that run MUCH better afterwards. I make it a standard thing to flash them within the first couple days of getting them if it's possible. The outcome is often positive. On occasion, no difference has been noticed.
It fixed all of my phone problems AND the restore facilitated setting it up again without bringing back any of the original lag/clumsiness. Fantastic fix, thanks for sharing!
Can anyone confirm that there's no battery issues after a few days? Are you leaving VOLTE enabled?
bubblebuddyi said:
Can anyone confirm that there's no battery issues after a few days? Are you leaving VOLTE enabled?
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I will say I think the battery is as good as it will get with this release of firmware. I leave all my radios on and VoLTE is enabled. With that said, it lasts nowhere near as long as an iPhone 6 or LG G2. So far I can live with how it's lasting, but I do hope it will be fixed in future releases.

European G3 back to stock. . . .how?

I have the 855 (3 branded) variant of the European G3 and a few things are just not working correctly and I'd also like to get rid of the 3 carrier logo on boot up and shutdown.
I don't really want to be rooted, I just want to get back to the Lollipop firmware that it came with.
Can anyone please tell me where to get the firmware, I've seen someplace with the Euro 855 and the HK 855 firmware but I think it was for KitKat and not Lollipop.
I'm using this page:
http://downloads.codefi.re/wolfgart/LG_G3 and choosing the 855 variant
The kitKat ROM seems to have 2 folders - 10a and 10e and each of those contains a ROM. There's no explanation as to what the difference is between them!
Is this the right ROM, Is it even Lollipop?
Please help!!
Just root, install twrp and flash a custom ROM, then flash official firmware found on xda for the D855.
Alternatively, there are stock based custom ROMs.
Also, if you root your phone you can remove or/and replace your boot animation i.e. rid your phone of the 3 logos!
Thx. Ive rooted it to try and remover the 3 startup screens and failed miserably so I wondered if there was just a way to re-flash stock without installing a custom recovery etc. If I'm going to have to send it back to LG, I'd rather not have any evidence of it being messed around with!
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Thx. Ive rooted it to try and remover the 3 startup screens and failed miserably so I wondered if there was just a way to re-flash stock without installing a custom recovery etc. If I'm going to have to send it back to LG, I'd rather not have any evidence of it being messed around with!
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Oops. How did you fail miserably?
What about:
https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_d855 and then:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
I read somewhere that all you needed to do to get rid of the boot animation was to go to /system/media and delete bootanimation.zip and shutdownanimation.zip. I couldn't delete them so I just re-named them. When I re-booted, it made no difference - those damn animations and 3 logo were still there!
I didn't really know where to go so I gave up as I am also having intermittent problems getting email from outlook.com!
I'm fairly sure you can only edit system files, like boot animations, when you have root. You're right, those are the correct files but you need root to delete them. Outlook emails work fine for me. Have you tried using a different app e.g. cloudmagic?
Yeah, thats the weird thing. I rooted the phone and could edit the names quite easily! It just didn't make any difference!
I tried different email programs including Nine but the problem is always the same - sometimes emails come in fine and sometimes, they just don't arrive at all. No notifications, nothing. I know that they're there because my iPad will chime but sometimes the G3 will chime at the same time, sometimes it will chime 2 mins later and other times, it just won't chime at all and won't actually have any new email until I launch the app.
I have wifi on all the time and I make sure that it stays on when the screen is off (in WiFi settings).
It just drives me crazy that the email is so unreliable on my device!
Also, the second link to how to go back to stock is brilliant but following it you get to Lollipop firmware to the G3 and there are 4 variants:
http://storagecow.eu/index.php?dir=Xda/LG+G3/Stock/
go to Lollipop 5.0 --> D855 directory--> 4 variants!
Which one do I choose??
I clicked the TOTS folder and downloaded v10e EUR. I used the xda thread about flashing TOTS
That's great am2012, off to find the thread about flashing tots now...
Wait, that didn't sound right!
Is this the right thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
Yes, that's the one.
Thank you so much for the help. I'm going to flash this in a while. In the meantime, I've discovered that its a wifi issue. When the wifi is on, email is intermittent. If I switch wifi off, emails arrive at exactly the same time as iOS devices! Some sort of wifi bug obviously..
Homey said:
Thank you so much for the help. I'm going to flash this in a while. In the meantime, I've discovered that its a wifi issue. When the wifi is on, email is intermittent. If I switch wifi off, emails arrive at exactly the same time as iOS devices! Some sort of wifi bug obviously..
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You're welcome. Is there an option you have selected to only accept Wi-Fi if there is a strong signal, perhaps?
No, there's nothing like that. It looks like once the wifi signal is dropped, the G3 doesn't switch over to cellular network for its data..
Hmm

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