Greetings,
So, I got an M8 couple a months back and didn't really like the sense skin so was thinking of turning to GPE edition.
Unfortunately, it turns out you that have to be on s-off which requires sunshine which in turn requires 25 bucks and I am kind of running low on money
SO, I was wondering if anyone here could do me a good deed and get me a sunshine license so that I could do the s-off thing. (THANKS)
Anyways,
Thanks Folks
glassofwotah said:
Greetings,
So, I got an M8 couple a months back and didn't really like the sense skin so was thinking of turning to GPE edition.
Unfortunately, it turns out you that have to be on s-off which requires sunshine which in turn requires 25 bucks and I am kind of running low on money
SO, I was wondering if anyone here could do me a good deed and get me a sunshine license so that I could do the s-off thing. (THANKS)
Anyways,
Thanks Folks
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You are adorable.
Nobody is going to give you $25.
Just flash an AOSP ROM. It costs nothing.
You could also flash a GPE based ROM without doing the conversion. The only reason you would need S-Off is to fully convert so that you can get OTA updates.
If you are running a GPE based ROM, you can still update manually to new firmware when it is released for your device. Of course that takes a bit more work, but it isn't that hard. But you won't be getting them as soon as the actual and converted GPEs.
If you want to fully convert and get the early OTAs, you're going to have to spend $25 of your own money. You won't find any sympathy here.
xunholyx said:
You are adorable.
Nobody is going to give you $25.
Just flash an AOSP ROM. It costs nothing.
You could also flash a GPE based ROM without doing the conversion. The only reason you would need S-Off is to fully convert so that you can get OTA updates.
If you are running a GPE based ROM, you can still update manually to new firmware when it is released for your device. Of course that takes a bit more work, but it isn't that hard. But you won't be getting them as soon as the actual and converted GPEs.
If you want to fully convert and get the early OTAs, you're going to have to spend $25 of your own money. You won't find any sympathy here.
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Thanks mate you just solved my problem. You just did a deed.
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Hey guys, i just flashed my M8 using vomer's Guide, everything went great except for the S-OFF part, firewater didn't work on my variant (T-Mobile Version), i was just wondering if it will affect my phone in any way while trying to flash a custom rom, right now im looking at flashing Skydragon's GPE or Sense version
You can still flash roms with s on, just not do the GPe conversations
The ones known as RUU right?
If you flash a Sense 2.22 based custom ROM, its recommended that you flash the updated firmware package (S-off required) or else wait until the 2.22 based OTA rolls out for your version (which will include "official" firmware).
If the updated firmware is not installed, 2.22 based ROMs will usually cause some major bugs, like excessive long boot time, broken WiFi and Bluetooth, etc.
S-off is usually not "required" to flash a ROM per se. This is an exception where the older firmware modules (not included in the ROM itself) are not playing well with the newer based ROMs.
redpoint73 said:
If you flash a Sense 2.22 based custom ROM, its recommended that you flash the updated firmware package (S-off required) or else wait until the 2.22 based OTA rolls out for your version (which will include "official" firmware).
If the updated firmware is not installed, 2.22 based ROMs will usually cause some major bugs, like excessive long boot time, broken WiFi and Bluetooth, etc.
S-off is usually not "required" to flash a ROM per se. This is an exception where the older firmware modules (not included in the ROM itself) are not playing well with the newer based ROMs.
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So if i flash Skydragon's Sense based rom i will encounter major bugs? well thats too bad
but the Skydragon GPE Rom is fine right?
Sinchero said:
So if i flash Skydragon's Sense based rom i will encounter major bugs? well thats too bad
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You can always try it and see. I'm not sure if 100% of folks will have this issue (if you do not update firmware), but others have said you will "probably" have some major bugs.
On the other hand, if you are s-off and already have fastboot setup on your computer, the process to update firmware takes maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
Sinchero said:
but the Skydragon GPE Rom is fine right?
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Not completely certain, you should read/search the Skkydragon GPE thread, or maybe somebody who knows can chime in.
redpoint73 said:
You can always try it and see. I'm not sure if 100% of folks will have this issue (if you do not update firmware), but others have said you will "probably" have some major bugs.
On the other hand, if you are s-off and already have fastboot setup on your computer, the process to update firmware takes maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
Not completely certain, you should read/search the Skkydragon GPE thread, or maybe somebody who knows can chime in.
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i just found out that they have a separate version for the T-Mobile variant, maybe thats what i will install, on a side note, do you think it would be a good idea to take the plunge and pay for the sunshine method to gain S-OFF?
Sinchero said:
do you think it would be a good idea to take the plunge and pay for the sunshine method to gain S-OFF?
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Its very much a personal choice. It you want the freedom to be able to flash firmware packages, radios, etc. at will; and $25 is something that you can afford to give away, then I'd say its recommended.
I had the luxury of being able to s-off earlier on for free, with firewater.
Well, I'm s-on and I've already had gpe edition installed.
Sent from HTC One m8, or maybe not anymore
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Its very much a personal choice. It you want the freedom to be able to flash firmware packages, radios, etc. at will; and $25 is something that you can afford to give away, then I'd say its recommended.
I had the luxury of being able to s-off earlier on for free, with firewater.
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All right, thanks for the help, i think i will leave S-ON, maybe some time later i will decide to pay the $25 so i can have S-OFF.
mr.loverlover said:
Well, I'm s-on and I've already had gpe edition installed.
Sent from HTC One m8, or maybe not anymore
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The Skydragon version or the stock version?
I can't remember which gpe rom I've tested, however now I'm on stock based skydragon 4.4.3 (not redbull edition, as it was too much overclocked).
Sent from HTC One m8, or maybe not anymore
Sinchero said:
All right, thanks for the help, i think i will leave S-ON, maybe some time later i will decide to pay the $25 so i can have S-OFF.
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If the 2.22 firmware is all you want s-off for, probably not a bad idea to just wait for the T-Mobile OTA rollout. Then you can just install the new firmware "official" OTA way. Once the firmware is updated, you should be able to flash whatever you want with S-on.
redpoint73 said:
If the 2.22 firmware is all you want s-off for, probably not a bad idea to just wait for the T-Mobile OTA rollout. Then you can just install the new firmware "official" OTA way. Once the firmware is updated, you should be able to flash whatever you want with S-on.
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That's all i want it for, maybe it is a good idea to wait for T-Mobile to roll out the update, anyway, i flashed the Skydragon GPE ROM yesterday and everything is going fine, i have yet to test battery life, since today it's my first day of use, but everything seems to be running fine, thank you for all your help.
So I've been running GPE 4.4.4 ROM for close or over 5 months, and tried flashing the new sinless ROM, only to discover I seem to not be able to without updating firmware (?)
Anyways, I'll just keep this short. I'm running TWRP v2.7.0.2, S-ON T-mobile HTC one m8 and just want something new. Not super picky, suggestions welcome, but mostly need to know how to get caught up!
Thanks in advance, let me know if I forgot to include any info.
watchmuu said:
So I've been running GPE 4.4.4 ROM for close or over 5 months, and tried flashing the new sinless ROM, only to discover I seem to not be able to without updating firmware (?)
Anyways, I'll just keep this short. I'm running TWRP v2.7.0.2, S-ON T-mobile HTC one m8 and just want something new. Not super picky, suggestions welcome, but mostly need to know how to get caught up!
Thanks in advance, let me know if I forgot to include any info.
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My advice would be to get S-OFF using firewater method. You can search it on youtube in less than 1 min. Once you get S-OFF I recommend changing your phoneID to superCID. Also you should flash the newest version of TWRP to not run into any trouble. Once you gain S-OFF I recommend flashing the latest sense firmware http://renovate-themes.de/index.php?s=firmwarewhich seem to be much more stable+performance oriented.
Right now at this moment we do not have an official lollipop release. There should be a GPE 5.0 coming soon to the m8/m7. You should definitely try out CM roms and AICP roms if you like tinkering around with your phone. CM/AICP should be out with android 5.0 very soon also.
@watchmuu
Now you can try like everyone else for days trying to get "firewater" to work or bite down and spend $25 on "Sunshine"
watchmuu said:
So I've been running GPE 4.4.4 ROM for close or over 5 months, and tried flashing the new sinless ROM, only to discover I seem to not be able to without updating firmware (?)
Anyways, I'll just keep this short. I'm running TWRP v2.7.0.2, S-ON T-mobile HTC one m8 and just want something new. Not super picky, suggestions welcome, but mostly need to know how to get caught up!
Thanks in advance, let me know if I forgot to include any info.
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Here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714456
ok guys i have a at&t htc one m8, i sim unlocked it some months ago with those online number code thing. so now i got impatience and wanted to get the new lollipop 5.0 gpe or sense. i am using another sim so i can receive ota updates on the phone anyways, infact at&t hasn't even released the lollipop yet. i decided to root the phone to get the new firmware only to get stuck at s-off part. my phone is rooted and the boot loader is unlocked. i have to pay 25 dollars to get s-off : eek: that's some bull crap. i wish someone told me that before embarking in this journey. firewater doesn't work anymore. is there any way around paying for sunshine ? thanks.
gabriox said:
ok guys i have a at&t htc one m8, i sim unlocked it some months ago with those online number code thing. so now i got impatience and wanted to get the new lollipop 5.0 gpe or sense. i am using another sim so i can receive ota updates on the phone anyways, infact at&t hasn't even released the lollipop yet. i decided to root the phone to get the new firmware only to get stuck at s-off part. my phone is rooted and the boot loader is unlocked. i have to pay 25 dollars to get s-off : eek: that's some bull crap. i wish someone told me that before embarking in this journey. firewater doesn't work anymore. is there any way around paying for sunshine ? thanks.
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S-Off isn't a must!
First and foremost, I'm S-On, 5.x ROM, regardless of GPE or Sense works fine for me
As of now no. Sunshine is the only working s-off method. I know it seems like a lot, but you have to remember that a lot of time and effort goes into this. Not to mention money of the the devs. Ths is a small cost considering what your able to do with it unleashed.
Bobbi lim said:
S-Off isn't a must!
First and foremost, I'm S-On, 5.x ROM, regardless of GPE or Sense works fine for me
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OP can run Lollipop GPE ROMs that support 4.4.4 firmware.
Otherwise, Sense 5.0 ROMs will likely cause trouble (extreme long boot times, broken WiFi) without the proper firmware, which is not yet "officially" available for the AT&T version (LP not yet released).
For the AT&T version, if the OP wants to update to LP firmware, than s-off is actually a must, at this time.
You are basically saying that s-off is a must 25 is alot. I wish I did it when firewater was working.
Sorry im a bit of a Noob and was wondering what benefit i would get from being S-Off
To be honest 25 for sunshine to get S-Off is a bit extreme but thats why im asking the question, im not here to start moaning about the cost, if i find that s-off is worth it i will get it.
Thanks
What may be worth doing is rooting the phone and purchasing sunshine if and when soff is needed to restore the tamper flag in the bootloader for warranty purposes. If you dont need to send it back dont bother paying for soff. Obviously if you want soff for other reasons then its worth it but only you would know this. Personally were both **** out of luck as its the only method to gain soff on the latest m8's. I will more than likely be getting it as i want root only but to have son bl locked and tamper flags removed whilst retaining root. For this reason alone its worth it to me but i hear ya. Still not to happy about paying it but theres no other choice atm unfortunately.
Im still not happy the bootloader has to be unlocked just to gain root. Ive always rooted my phones whilst keeping everything else stock, but again its tough **** until devs find an exploit, if they are even searching for one, who knows.
bornnslippy said:
Sorry im a bit of a Noob and was wondering what benefit i would get from being S-Off
To be honest 25 for sunshine to get S-Off is a bit extreme but thats why im asking the question, im not here to start moaning about the cost, if i find that s-off is worth it i will get it.
Thanks
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The best part of S-Off for me is that I can always be running the newest firmware, and therefore the newest ROMs. I never have to wait for my carrier to update (for example AT&T just got Lollipop a few weeks ago but S-Off users updated in January with WWE firmware)
This ^^^^
I got s-off in the beginning. So I've never had to worry about official updates, or finding firmware for my exact model (which is Telus... So harder to find). I did SuperCID, so I can flash firmware anytime, even downgrade firmware. I can use new roms, or old roms... Covert to GPE if I wanted... Etc.
Do you need it to fully enjoy the phone? No. But if you like having total control... Then yes you do.
$25 wasn't a big deal for me, for complete freedom. :good:
It depends where you live, what carrier your on, & if you want to tinker with your phone. I'm in the US, on Verizon, & want to stay up to date on firmwire & the latest android. Finally, I want full access to my device, so that's why I paid $25 no question !!!!!
Last thing does s-off void your warranty
Thanks
bornnslippy said:
Last thing does s-off void your warranty
Thanks
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Not exactly. But unlocking your bootloader technically does. But with s-off, you can reverse everything you've done, including the red tampered banner, and return your device to its stock state.
sjpritch25 said:
It depends where you live, what carrier your on, & if you want to tinker with your phone.
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And specifically what you want to tinker with. But otherwise I agree.
If you own a version that gets relatively quickly updated (GPE, Dev Edition, many WWE versions) its probably not that necessary. But on AT&T for instance, we had to wait a few months (after other variants) to get the "official" 4.4.4 and 5.0 firmwares (hboot, radio, etc.). Meaning we couldn't properly run most custom ROMs for a while without s-off.
I did s-off when I got the phone about a year ago. So I've fortunately never had such limitations. I've been running LP since January, where folks on AT&T with s-on had to wait until April for the proper firmware.
Plus, with s-off you can flash modified hboots, manually flash different radios, and "fully convert" to other versions (other CIDs, of Google Play Edition).
Hello all,
I am trying to change my girlfriends ATT edition m8 into a Google Play Edition. Shes been having a lot of problems lately and just a nice clean stock android I feel would really just revive the phone. Im not looking to pay $25 for a 2 year old phone that has hardware issue just to get s-off so if anyone has a method to get s-off i would appreciate it. I have unlocked the bootloader so thats all set.
When I attempt to flash the RUU.zip I have I am constantly getting an error 99 return.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks guys.
You can't convert with a ruu while S-ON. And there is no other S-OFF tool than sunshine. At least not under 25$.
magestic1995 said:
I am trying to change my girlfriends ATT edition m8 into a Google Play Edition.
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You need S-Off to convert the device to GPE but you don't need to convert to GPE to experience GPE.
While on S-On, you can install the Flashable Stock GPe ROM instead of using GPe RUU.
See : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
and there are a few other GPE flashable ROMs in Development thread that you don't need conversion to GPE.
(e.g. the one that linked in my signature but that's not updated to the latest and running this without GPE coversion)
magestic1995 said:
Im not looking to pay $25 for a 2 year old phone that has hardware issue just to get s-off so if anyone has a method to get s-off i would appreciate it.
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There is no free s-off method. sunshine is your only option, unless you have a friend with a javacard and knows how to use it (otherwise, that costs even more money).
I agree with ckpv5 above, just flash a GPE ROM to get GPE experience. The only things that would be missing are OTA updates, and the GPE partition scheme.
ckpv5 said:
You need S-Off to convert the device to GPE but you don't need to convert to GPE to experience GPE.
While on S-On, you can install the Flashable Stock GPe ROM instead of using GPe RUU.
See : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
and there are a few other GPE flashable ROMs in Development thread that you don't need conversion to GPE.
(e.g. the one that linked in my signature but that's not updated to the latest and running this without GPE coversion)
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Thanks, I ended up using the guide and flashing it as a ROM, it ended up working great and helped a lot.
redpoint73 said:
There is no free s-off method. sunshine is your only option, unless you have a friend with a javacard and knows how to use it (otherwise, that costs even more money).
I agree with ckpv5 above, just flash a GPE ROM to get GPE experience. The only things that would be missing are OTA updates, and the GPE partition scheme.
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Question whats a javacard??
magestic1995 said:
Question whats a javacard??
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Its a special MicroSD card that will s-off the device. They cost $300 or so. You might be able to find a local service that has a javacard for the M8, but by the time you find one, and pay them to s-off, you probably could have just used sunshine.
redpoint73 said:
Its a special MicroSD card that will s-off the device. They cost $300 or so. You might be able to find a local service that has a javacard for the M8, but by the time you find one, and pay them to s-off, you probably could have just used sunshine.
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Never realized s-off was so complicated for the m8, dont remember it ever being so hard on my old phones.
magestic1995 said:
Never realized s-off was so complicated for the m8, dont remember it ever being so hard on my old phones.
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Sunshine is an app, its not complicated. I think by "complicated" you mean expensive.
On the other hand, S-off is certainly complicated for the developers, that have spend hundreds of hours finding these exploits, and bricked several devices developing sunshine. Sunshine is by the same devs that did firewater (for free) and a ton of other contributions to XDA, before deciding to make sunshine a paid app.
Java card is somewhat of a obscure thing. But nothing completely new. Older HTC devices had "gold cards" with a similar concept.
Whether you decide to pay for s-off or not, is completely up to your personal discretion. S-off isn't needed for most people; as its not needed to flash ROMs, root, and a great many other things.