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[Q[ Questions on RUU

Hey Guys,
I just had some questions regarding RUU's and sort of trying to understand them.
Do RUU's update everything that normal custom ROM's cannot, i.e. like the OTA's? So updating drivers and hboot etc?
Main reason is that if it does update everything then on the next big update I would probably want to do an RUU install even if it means loosing all data.
With regards to the RUU do I need all three of the following:
- Stock ROM
- Stock Recovery
- Locked bootloader
Or do I need JUST a locked bootloader?
Thanks

Yes you will get updates if you flash a ruu and ruu 's are pure stock ruu's are used when we need to put the stock Rom back on our device when we need to send it in for repair's and also when we prefer the stock Rom over a custom Rom I my self prefer custom Rom over a stock Rom and sometimes when a custom Rom isnt performing the way it should some people will simply go back to stock by flashing a ruu
Sent From My Viper S 1.2.0 with true s off by alpha revolutionary

jslim38 said:
Yes you will get updates if you flash a ruu and ruu 's are pure stock ruu's are used when we need to put the stock Rom back on our device when we need to send it in for repair's and also when we prefer the stock Rom over a custom Rom I my self prefer custom Rom over a stock Rom and sometimes when a custom Rom isnt performing the way it should some people will simply go back to stock by flashing a ruu
Sent From My Viper S 1.2.0 with true s off by alpha revolutionary
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Thanks, my main reason is actually not to say on an RUU but I was hoping to install an RUU, get all the updates to my firmware and drivers, then unlock bootloader again and install a custom ROM.

They should be updated by a custom rom. Only thing that isnt touched is the HBOOT i think. But reflash stock recovery relock the bootloader then run the ruu.

Flashing an RUU first if available is the way to go personally
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I readin a lot on here and I read somewhere updateing with ruu updates hboot and hboot is some sort of security so updateing it could make getting s-off harder
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Updating the HBoot means adding more layers of security, which imo is not something we enjoy here on XDA
Personally, I prefer going with a custom ROM that is almost like stock (preferably ARHD) which with every update brings the improvements brought to us by HTC and even more.
Also with ARHD for example, upgrading from one version to a newer one rarely requires you to wipe all your data which is very annoying imo.

I've been on Custom roms since I had my phone so I had missed the OTA update for 1.xxx.11 and the 2.xx versions, now with the a big 3.xx version on the horizon, my main concern is if my Custom ROM's are not updating some critical firmware drivers and such that would have benefitted my phone.
Tbh it's still not clear to me what Custom ROM's cannot update, at first I thought it was just the HBOOT but then I read on a recent thread that apparently things like GPU drivers and other essential hardware firmware drivers may not get updated either which sounds like a big deal. Hence I was thinking with the release of 3.xx I should do an RUU install just to be sure and then go ahead to a Custom ROM.
I understand that having my HBOOT updated could mean S-OFF is harder but the way things are, it doesn't look like were any close to getting it either, who knows maybe even a future HBOOT update might have an easier S-OFF is HTC decide to relax it a bit from consumer pressure?

When developers get their hands on new RUUs they base their custom Roms on them, and therefore you will get the new updates in terms of drivers and other software related things.
Also, kernels bring new improvements as they are updated, and developers also build their ROMs on these kernels. However, you can flash custom kernels separately if you find one that has additional "improvements" you like.
In short, custom ROMs that are maintained/updated regularly (ARHD is one of the best imo) is all you need to stay up to date with all the new improvements.
The only reason I ever download any RUU is in case something went wrong with my phone, and I wanted to temporarily return to stock.

Ah right, I was thinking more of the S-ON security restriction not letting custom ROM's fully update everything except radio, kernel and ROM but RUU's are given the full access to update everything?

iq-dot said:
Ah right, I was thinking more of the S-ON security restriction not letting custom ROM's fully update everything except radio, kernel and ROM but RUU's are given the full access to update everything?
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I don't think there is consensus on what can be updated and what cannot.
Here's my take: an OTA has access to everything, as does an RUU, but the point is that they flash signed images, and the phone will allow signed images to be flashed (subject to matching CID, etc.).
It's possible to flash kernel with the boot.img, and also possible to flash kernel modules, which means that drivers can be updated.
It's possible to flash "radios" (often as part of the ROM), and there is an app to get updated RILs, so it would seem that the RIL has not been confused with the radio. However, since the bootloader appears to get the radio version from a text file, rather than the radio, there's some doubt as to whether the radio is really updated (since the bootloader disagrees).
Obviously we can unlock and gain access to flashing unsigned recovery, boot (kernel/ramdisk) and ROM images.
Outside of this, it's not impossible that there are areas of the phone that still require flashing of signed images, such as for firmware updates of other bits of hardware not previously mentioned (speculatively: lower level bits of "radio", cpu microcode, gpu firmware, etc.), which may or may not be flashable with an RUU (or maybe even an OTA). However, there is nothing in an RUU that cannot be done with tools we already have, so if there was a "fastboot flash cpu_microcode" option, somebody would have found it. I haven't looked at full list of fastboot commands, but I don't recall coming across anything like that.

xbiggyl said:
When developers get their hands on new RUUs they base their custom Roms on them, and therefore you will get the new updates in terms of drivers and other software related things.
Also, kernels bring new improvements as they are updated, and developers also build their ROMs on these kernels. However, you can flash custom kernels separately if you find one that has additional "improvements" you like.
In short, custom ROMs that are maintained/updated regularly (ARHD is one of the best imo) is all you need to stay up to date with all the new improvements.
The only reason I ever download any RUU is in case something went wrong with my phone, and I wanted to temporarily return to stock.
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There are some parts of the firmware/drivers that custom ROMs cannot change so flashing an RUU first does have it's benefits to get a true experience of a custom ROM

EddyOS said:
There are some parts of the firmware/drivers that custom ROMs cannot change so flashing an RUU first does have it's benefits to get a true experience of a custom ROM
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Do you know what, specifically?

I don't, no, it's just a personal preference I suppose. I updated to the 2.17 RUU (UK unbranded) and then went onto a custom ROM based on the same RUU so I know everything is compatible. Whether it has any real affect I don't know but seeing as Mike used to have 'firmware' packages for other HTC handsets it would lead me to believe he would with the One X if we had S-OFF

EddyOS said:
Mike used to have 'firmware' packages for other HTC handsets it would lead me to believe he would with the One X if we had S-OFF
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...there are a lot of masked partitions, eh? Who knows.

A lot of the partitions were listed in the S-OFF thread but as to what they actually contain/do is open to discussion - it could be a custom ROM it's own is enough but without S-OFF we'll never really know

EddyOS said:
There are some parts of the firmware/drivers that custom ROMs cannot change so flashing an RUU first does have it's benefits to get a true experience of a custom ROM
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Have you read anywhere of any improvements offered exclusively by RUUs or you're simply speculating?
I know some partitions (that appeared to be in the HOX) are not accessible by Custom Roms, but has anyone ever claimed to have experienced an improvement in any way by flashing an RUU that people flashing custom Roms haven't?
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[Q] Stuck in somewhere with not wifi

Decided to take the last Software update from HTC and messed up everything.
I am unlocked with S-ON so decided to relock and start the process, now after 3 days on reading and testing different way i have this:
unlock S-on Hboot 3.18.00000
invalide radio and os info. Tried Android revolution and Maximus latest ROM on both wifi don't work.
Tried to go s-off till i got the message that my device has been patched by HTC
I don't mind to go with a ROM or full back to stock but need some help getting the device working with wifi

This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.

redpoint73 said:
This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.
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Been reading more than the dozen mentioned and in any case thank you for the information.
Got the Wifi working installing a previous ROM as you suggest and now will start the process to get s-off and proceed. Even tried Sumshine do not mind to pay for it but can't install the apk on the phone.....
Is not my day probably

redpoint73 said:
This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.
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want to update also the other that faced the same issues.
Loaded MaximusHD 7 and got wifi working
Through sunshine got s-OFF now wante to try to get all the best to have all the upgrade.
Will have to ready dozens more ot threads, if someone has help and suggestion is welcome

succe said:
want to update also the other that faced the same issues.
Loaded MaximusHD 7 and got wifi working
Through sunshine got s-OFF now wante to try to get all the best to have all the upgrade.
Will have to ready dozens more ot threads, if someone has help and suggestion is welcome
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Just look in the Development section for the firmware collection. Or just read through the ARHD or Maximus threads (starting from the most recent posts and going back from there), and they will probably lead you to the same place. Seriously, its not that hard to search for info on XDA. I never once after modding 6 Android and 2 Windows Mobile devices before that, had to ask folks to lead me to the info. Most of us just search and find it ourselves. Reading through the thread for the ROM you are having problems with will lead you to the answer 99% of the time; and you should do this when you flash any ROM.

[Q] M8 GPE Roms won't install

I recently bought a M8 Google play edition. I unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted it. I then tried to get s-off, but firewater would not work. At this point I tried to install a sense based stock rom to try firewater again or to get an OTA update and upgrade my firmware, no dice.
Any rom I try to install just hangs at the Google logo once it reboots from recovery after install, ViperOne M8 even errors out when installing. No idea what the issue is, I even made sure that the roms I grabbed were compatible with FW version 2.12/2.22. I would like to upgrade the firmware but that's not possible without either s-off or a stock rom.
Any help would be appreciated, I am a pretty experienced android power user and have even helped build some Kernels for 2.2 back in the day, but this is the first device I have had this sort of trouble with.
Additional info:
Model: OP6B17000
CID: Google001
my firmware version is 2.12.1700
Bootloader is "Unlocked" and "Tampered"

u cannot flash sense based rom on GPE device there is reason i think system partition
if u really want sense u can get s off with sunshine i guess through its not free (if fire water dint work)
otherwise stick to GPE .

Then why would I have trouble installing roms that aren't sense based? I should be able to install a Tom regardless of s-off.
The idea of paying for sunshine bugs me. Afraid it might not work.

post above is correct ,can't install sense based roms,
what other roms have you tried? anything AOSP should work fine. make sure you wipe and start fresh in you're installing a rom..remember first boot up will take quite longer than usual but shouldnt surpass more than 10 mins at most.

I have tried ViperOneM8 2.5 and 2.2. And several sense based roms. I'll try cyanogen mod and sky dragon next.
Any suggestions for AOSP roms with lots of customization?

cossiah said:
I have tried ViperOneM8 2.5 and 2.2. And several sense based roms. I'll try cyanogen mod and sky dragon next.
Any suggestions for AOSP roms with lots of customization?
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Dirty Unicorns. The whole reason I started flashing roms was bc of the customization. I've flashed about 95% of the roms for m8 and I keep going back to DU.

Flashed dirty unicorns last night to great success. Thanks a ton
Now I'm having other issues but that's rom related. Just glad I'm no longer on stock.

cossiah said:
Then why would I have trouble installing roms that aren't sense based? I should be able to install a Tom regardless of s-off.
The idea of paying for sunshine bugs me. Afraid it might not work.
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sunshine does a check to see if it will work before it makes you pay... you only pay if it will work

[Q] WiFi wont turn on

So I installed a new rom recently and i noticed after doing so my wifi stopped working and my data disconnects at random times.
Here is information about my phone . Thank you for anyhelp
Android Version:
5.0.1
HTC Sense Version:
7.0
Software Version:
LeeDrOiD_One_M8_S7_V7.0.2
PRI Version:
2.62_003
PRL Version:
55025
Kernal Version:
3.4.0-g53c7f19
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband Version:
1.08.20.0612_4
Build Number:
4.20.654.10 CL476182 release-keys
HBOOT:
3.18.0.0000
Radio:
1.08.20.062_4
OpenDSP:
v45.2.2-00542-M8974_HM.0422
OS:
2.16.654.4
MID:
0P6B70000
CID:
SPCS_004
My phone is S-ON

You need to update your firmware, as discussed on many different threads.

And by updating your firmware, he means the "baseband", not the rom itself. You will most likely need to S-Off.

smknutson said:
And by updating your firmware, he means the "baseband", not the rom itself. You will most likely need to S-Off.
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Firmware is not the ROM itself, that is true (and a common source of confusion). But it includes a variety of partitions/modules not contained in the ROM, only one of which is the radio baseband:
hboot
radio
WiFi (and its this one that is causing the issue)
Bluetooth
Media
Stock recovery
boot.img
Others
Updating firmware is possible with s-on by returning to stock ROM and stock recovery, and updating via OTA to the current Lollipop software and firmware. After that, the OP can flash custom recovery again, and the custom ROM of choice.

Could you possibly show the right direction in doing that, im having trouble finding stuff for this specific model

MrZackFX said:
Could you possibly show the right direction in doing that, im having trouble finding stuff for this specific model
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Did you try to flash the stock Lollipop ROM for your version (CID)?
What you probably need to do is flash the 2.16.654 stock ROM, corresponding stock recovery, than OTA up to Lollipop to update the firmware. Finding the stock 2.16.654 ROM may be the challenge here.
You didn't happen to make a nandroid (TWRP backup) of your stock ROM before flashing any other ROMs?

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Did you try to flash the stock Lollipop ROM for your version (CID)?
What you probably need to do is flash the 2.16.654 stock ROM, corresponding stock recovery, than OTA up to Lollipop to update the firmware. Finding the stock 2.16.654 ROM may be the challenge here.
You didn't happen to make a nandroid (TWRP backup) of your stock ROM before flashing any other ROMs?
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No sadly i didnt, would it make things easier if i s-off then go to stock?

MrZackFX said:
No sadly i didnt, would it make things easier if i s-off then go to stock?
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With s-off, you can flash a firmware package without having to jump through the hoops of returning to stock and OTA updates.
But if its not the Lollipop firmware for your CID (for instance, you can't find it), you'll need to make sure its one that has a radio baseband that plays well with your local carrier.
The one hitch, is that you may need to restore to stock in order to run sunshine s-off. Sunshine may or may not work with LeeDroid. It might be "stockish" enough for sunshine to work.

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With s-off, you can flash a firmware package without having to jump through the hoops of returning to stock and OTA updates.
But if its not the Lollipop firmware for your CID (for instance, you can't find it), you'll need to make sure its one that has a radio baseband that plays well with your local carrier.
The one hitch, is that you may need to restore to stock in order to run sunshine s-off. Sunshine may or may not work with LeeDroid. It might be "stockish" enough for sunshine to work.
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I dont care what rom i use as long as the phone fully works. Then i will work on making it look pretty. The only reason why im using LeeDroid is because its the least buggy rom i found with my phone in its current position.

MrZackFX said:
I dont care what rom i use as long as the phone fully works. Then i will work on making it look pretty. The only reason why im using LeeDroid is because its the least buggy rom i found with my phone in its current position.
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I'm not talking about your ROM preference. I'm referring to the fact that stock ROM (and also stock recovery) is the best configuration for sunshine s-off to work. But you are in kind of a Catch-22, in that you are trying to get back to stock. And by the time you return to stock ROM and stock recovery, you are pretty close to just updating the firmware by OTA, anyway (and in that case, s-off isn't needed).
Some folks have had success doing s-off with certain custom Sense ROMs (while other ROMs will interfere with sunshine). I think InsertCoin and Maximus are the ones I've seen mentioned, and LeeDroid might be close enough to stock for sunshine to work, also. Its worth trying, anyway (if s-off is indeed what you want). The sunshine app will tell you whether your phone is compatible or not (and if not, then you can try a different ROM), and you won't be charged any money unless it works.

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I'm not talking about your ROM preference. I'm referring to the fact that stock ROM (and also stock recovery) is the best configuration for sunshine s-off to work. But you are in kind of a Catch-22, in that you are trying to get back to stock.
What I'm saying is that some folks have had success doing s-off with certain custom Sense ROMs (while other ROMs will interfere with sunshine). I think InsertCoin and Maximus are the ones I've seen mentioned, and LeeDroid might be close enough to stock for sunshine to work, also. Its worth trying, anyway. The sunshine app will tell you whether your phone is compatible or not (and if not, then you can try a different ROM), and you won't be charged any money unless it works.
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Is there anyway with out being charged money?

MrZackFX said:
Is there anyway with out being charged money?
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Any way to s-off besides sunshine? NO.
If you are asking if there is a way to update firmware without paying (therefore with s-on), I've already described that process in Post #6 above. But as I already mentioned there, you might have trouble finding the 2.16.654 stock nandroid. You may need to ask for it to be posted, or look around.

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I'm not talking about your ROM preference. I'm referring to the fact that stock ROM (and also stock recovery) is the best configuration for sunshine s-off to work. But you are in kind of a Catch-22, in that you are trying to get back to stock. And by the time you return to stock ROM and stock recovery, you are pretty close to just updating the firmware by OTA, anyway (and in that case, s-off isn't needed).
Some folks have had success doing s-off with certain custom Sense ROMs (while other ROMs will interfere with sunshine). I think InsertCoin and Maximus are the ones I've seen mentioned, and LeeDroid might be close enough to stock for sunshine to work, also. Its worth trying, anyway (if s-off is indeed what you want). The sunshine app will tell you whether your phone is compatible or not (and if not, then you can try a different ROM), and you won't be charged any money unless it works.
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I just changed to stock using the tool in this thread. About to setup my phone and do the ota updates
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173

MrZackFX said:
I just changed to stock using the tool in this thread. About to setup my phone and do the ota updates
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173
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Ah, yes. I don't think it even occurred to me that your version was Sprint, and that it had RUUs. While I'm in the US (AT&T) I'm so used to helping folks outside the US (and most variants outside the US don't have RUUs).
If you used the RUU to update to version 4.25 firmware, that is already up to date, and there won't be an OTA at this time.

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Ah, yes. I don't think it even occurred to me that your version was Sprint, and that it had RUUs. While I'm in the US (AT&T) I'm so used to helping folks outside the US (and most variants outside the US don't have RUUs).
If you used the RUU to update to version 4.25 firmware, that is already up to date, and there won't be an OTA at this time.
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Yeah i didnt think to use the updated one until i was finished flashing. But non the less i got it working once again.

[Q] Converted GPE 5.1 vs. Sense, is it worth the hassle??

Gentlemen,
I'm thinking of converting my 5.0.1 sense rom (currently using Revolution HD) to GPE so I could always get the latest versions of Android.
So I was wondering how GPE is compared to Sense from ppl who tried both, better performance? Battery?
Will I get OTAs, or would I need to manually update?
I asked these questions because I didn't find a recent post about converted GPEs, so I was wondering if it will be worth the 25$ to get S-off to do it, plus formatting my phone!
Thanks in Advance :good:

I was skeptical at first too.. YES!! to everything. Sense has some good features, etc that are useful.. But I found it to be more annoying and bloated than anything. Battery life for me is better on gpe too. As a nexus guy, I upgrade to m8 for battery life from nexus 5. Gpe gets me damn close to nexus with a few extra features. You will get OTA as long as you use the GOOGL cid.
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Thanks, thats great!
I'll probably convert mine soon.

I loved my nexus s, 4, and 5. but i love the m8 gpe even more.
Fast and slim OS, fast updates, premium hardware, best of both worlds.
Only downside for me: sense based Rom do support rSAP, gpe does not.
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I'm thinking about converting to GPE too , but i should s-off first , i can't find a free way to do that :/

The ease in which to block calls in Sense keeps me there. Tried both.

The Tox said:
I'm thinking about converting to GPE too , but i should s-off first , i can't find a free way to do that :/
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You may as well be searching for the Holy Grail or Fountain of Youth; you are looking for something that doesn't exist, and wasting your time.
sunshine is the only way to s-off, pay for it and get it over with.
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Will I get OTAs, or would I need to manually update?
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If you do the full conversion (s-off, change CID/MID, and RUU) to GPE, than yes you should get official OTAs.
This, and the changed partition scheme are the main reasons for doing a "full conversion" versus just flashing a GPE ROM.
GPE partitioning means you get more internal (user accessible storage) since the system (ROM) partition is much smaller on GPE versus Sense. But it also means, if you want to switch back, you need to "convert" back to Sense (usually by flashing Sense firmware and RUU).
If you want to try the GPE ROM before doing the "full conversion" you can just flash a GPE ROM and see if you like it. But in this case, you won't have the GPE partitioning, or OTA updates.

I have not been able to get S Off yet, but I am happy with the various Roms available for GPE/ASOP/Whatever.
S Off seems to require rolling back to stock, and I have no idea how to do that now that I am on GPE
I am currently using Validus. It is fast and good, but it does crash about once a day.
But that my be my apps and/or exposed or whatever.

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You may as well be searching for the Holy Grail or Fountain of Youth; you are looking for something that doesn't exist, and wasting your time.
sunshine is the only way to s-off, pay for it and get it over with.
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If you do the full conversion (s-off, change CID/MID, and RUU) to GPE, than yes you should get official OTAs.
This, and the changed partition scheme are the main reasons for doing a "full conversion" versus just flashing a GPE ROM.
GPE partitioning means you get more internal (user accessible storage) since the system (ROM) partition is much smaller on GPE versus Sense. But it also means, if you want to switch back, you need to "convert" back to Sense (usually by flashing Sense firmware and RUU).
If you want to try the GPE ROM before doing the "full conversion" you can just flash a GPE ROM and see if you like it. But in this case, you won't have the GPE partitioning, or OTA updates.
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I did a full conversion (s-off, changed CID, Kept my MID "0P6B10000" because the XDA thread mentioned its supported, RUU, etc) I had to pay for Sunshine, but honestly its worth it, seamless effort to get S-off :good:
I'm loving it, super fast, and more free memory, but most of all I cant wait to get quick updates
I did the pre-rooted RUU, and flashed TWRP, would that affect OTAs? do I need to flash stock recovery before OTA?

avatarzx said:
I have not been able to get S Off yet, but I am happy with the various Roms available for GPE/ASOP/Whatever.
S Off seems to require rolling back to stock, and I have no idea how to do that now that I am on GPE
I am currently using Validus. It is fast and good, but it does crash about once a day.
But that my be my apps and/or exposed or whatever.
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Crashing once a day does not sound stable! I reckon you should try another ROM, I've used Xposed on lollipop without any issues (on both stock Sense and stock GPE).
install Sunshine to get S-off, before billing you the app does a thorough check on your phone to see if S-off can be done (on my check it mentioned I need to uninstall Xposed first).
Because your phone is S-On I reckon you haven't fully converted to GPE, to roll back to sense I believe all you need is flash a sense rom after wiping all data (read instructions carefully) or get a sense RUU to get back to your original state (wipes everything).

ab.riyami said:
I did the pre-rooted RUU, and flashed TWRP, would that affect OTAs? do I need to flash stock recovery before OTA?
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Root should be okay for OTA. But you will need the stock recovery to OTA.

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Root should be okay for OTA. But you will need the stock recovery to OTA.
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I thought so, can you help me with stock recovery?
when I did the conversion (before flashing TWRP) I couldn't access Recovery, all it gave me was a dead looking Droid with an Exclamation Mark. I tried searching online but couldn't find a stock recovery for GPE Android 5.1 Build # LM47O.H6
I know I could have extracted it from RUU zip but it will be the same Recovery that didnt function, know where I can find one?

Stock recovery
What is stock recovery why do we need it?

umbrokhan said:
What is stock recovery why do we need it?
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Its the recovery that comes with your phone, not third party (advanced) like Philz or TWRP, etc.

yes...there are free methods to do it....browse n u will find it...

mraacidd said:
yes...there are free methods to do it....browse n u will find it...
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To do what ?

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To do what ?
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s-off....when I did mine...i did it the free way following tutorials from xda....thankx to dev who were willing to share their knowledge....I did everything doin the free way....cuz I prefer to learn n get the knowledge.......correct me if I m wrong....

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s-off....when I did mine...i did it the free way following tutorials from xda....thankx to dev who were willing to share their knowledge....I did everything doin the free way....cuz I prefer to learn n get the knowledge.......correct me if I m wrong....
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The free way was firewater but that's not online anymore. Only sunshine is the cheapest and easiest way to s-off now (from the same developers as firewater). No other methods available (at least not for the masses)
We won't learn how to do it from them, they have years and years of experience by testing and trying. They won't just put the info on how to do it online anywhere. And they shouldn't after all the time and bricked devices !

Mr Hofs said:
The free way was firewater but that's not online anymore. Only sunshine is the cheapest and easiest way to s-off now (from the same developers as firewater). No other methods available (at least not for the masses)
We won't learn how to do it from them, they have years and years of experience by testing and trying. They won't just put the info on how to do it online anywhere. And they shouldn't after all the time and bricked devices !
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I did not use firewater....I remember using the all-in-one-toolkit the first time...n the second time....i really forgot....sorry...but i do remember having to connect to htc the second time after i relocked my bootloader....sorry for my lapse in memory....I m not that young....

mraacidd said:
I did not use firewater....I remember using the all-in-one-toolkit the first time...n the second time....i really forgot....sorry...but i do remember having to connect to htc the second time after i relocked my bootloader....sorry for my lapse in memory....I m not that young....
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If firewater was incorporated into the toolkit you probably used that. There was no other free option beside firewater. Unlocking the bootloader is something completely different to s-off !
S-off is done once and you never lose it, unless you make the phone s-on yourself again. So you never have to do it a second time. I think you are mixing some memories up
Unlocking the bootloader is done via the HTC dev site indeed and s-off these days only via sunshine.