[Q] DRM Problems with unlocked Bootloader - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Together
I was thinking of Unlock Bootloader of the H815 EUR Model with the official Unlocktool from LG, but i have some fears about the DRM, so my Question is: have users who used the official Tool to unlock the Bootloader find some problems with DRM?

spencer92a said:
Hello Together
I was thinking of Unlock Bootloader of the H815 EUR Model with the official Unlocktool from LG, but i have some fears about the DRM, so my Question is: have users who used the official Tool to unlock the Bootloader find some problems with DRM?
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no problems here

No DRM problems... Deezer and Spotify works perfect.

I would be very interrested to get a definite answer to this from someone who really knows what the unlock removes and what it does to the device. Not just speculation and guesswork. If I knew that the official unlock would not ruin anything I would root my device right away.

What speculation and guesswork?? Mine is rooted.
But if you are that cautious better not to to root at all.

*justintime* said:
What speculation and guesswork?? Mine is rooted.
But if you are that cautious better not to to root at all.
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Yeah but do you know where the keys are used? They are not there just for the fun of it. If the keys are there there must be some form of function for them. You saying that camera works, Spotify works etc does not say a lot other than the apps you use work. It might be just some minor thing like Google play rented movies not working but I like to know about it. And nope, I am not overly causious. I want my phone to work like its supposed to in all aspects. And I have rooted/customized etc quite a few phones in my years so I know enough not to rush in to things that might not be so straight forward as it seemed at the time.

I agree with the question. The statement of LG redarding the DRM stuff is a bit vague. If someone has and could provide concrete information on what actually is affected by that, that would be awesome. Especially if the camera may be affected negatively like it was on Sony devices ...

Not trying to be an a** but we are telling you that everything worked just as it did before and you don't like that answer. Remember, you are asking users in an internet forum for answers that can only truly and definitively be answered by the OEM. Seems to me like your only choices are:
1) Ask LG directly and hope you get a straight answer
or
2) Do not unlock your device.

Only DRM stuff I use is Spotify, with no issue(s) whatsoever! Unlocked all droids I ever owned, sold them to friends who dont have a clue about these things, everybody happy, never complaints!

Yep, your point is very valid.
Maybe still two explicit questions to you who have done it already:
1. Any changes on the camera (quality) you recognized? (Like on Sonys models in the past)
2. Do you know if OTA updates still work, when officially unlocked?
Regards

hdyim said:
Yep, your point is very valid.
Maybe still two explicit questions to you who have done it already:
1. Any changes on the camera (quality) you recognized? (Like on Sonys models in the past)
2. Do you know if OTA updates still work, when officially unlocked?
Regards
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Not seen any difference in the camera before or after, in all modes everything works fine (including RAW capture etc.) if anything slightly better as you can then flash the boosted JPG quality cam mod from the forums here.
In terms of OTA updates my phone hasn't picked any up, but I don't know if the UK is supposed to be on version 10C or not. Either way I managed to update it through the Android Dev section of the forum.
AFAIK most phones lose OTA updates if you unlock bootloader and root, but I may be wrong on that count

Bootloader unlock and no DRM problem.
Spotify, Deezer works perfectly
unlock lg officialy on site

List of Apps that Work after BL Unlock
I've a LG G4 H815 Model BL unlocked
This Apps works so far after the Unlock:
-Google Music All Inclusive
-Netflix
-Camera
-Quality is the same as before Unlock
-Playstore
-Buy Music
-Rent or buy a Movie

Encryption anyone?
Did anyone encrypt their device before or after unlocking with the LG unlock tool? Any Problems there?
Any unlocked + encrypted phones out there?
Furthermore I would be interested how many of the geeks around here encrypt their phones?
For me, these days, I do not own a single device (PC, Notebook, Smartphone whatever) that is NOT encrypted. The more easy you loose the device, the more encryption should be a standard.
What is the reality? And does it work with the unlocked bootloader?

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[Q] Unlocked bootloaders, DRM keys, and warranties

Hello all,
I'm seriously considering buying an HTC One M8 (Dev Edition), but I have a couple of questions.
First off, HTC's site says:
Special note about the unlocked bootloader: With an unlocked bootloader, some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed anymore because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC.
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Should I really expect issues accessing copy-protected content? I saw this thread pertaining to the M7 Dev Edition possibly having issues accessing movies purchased through Google Play.
Can anyone on here who has unlocked their M8's bootloader give a little insight on this matter?
Second, since the bootloader comes unlocked on the Dev Edition, how does the warranty work? Is it voided once I flash something? Or do they not even care about that? I couldn't really find a good answer on HTC's website.
Thanks in advance!
kornfan71 said:
Hello all,
I'm seriously considering buying an HTC One M8 (Dev Edition), but I have a couple of questions.
First off, HTC's site says:
Should I really expect issues accessing copy-protected content? I saw this thread pertaining to the M7 Dev Edition possibly having issues accessing movies purchased through Google Play.
Can anyone on here who has unlocked their M8's bootloader give a little insight on this matter?
Second, since the bootloader comes unlocked on the Dev Edition, how does the warranty work? Is it voided once I flash something? Or do they not even care about that? I couldn't really find a good answer on HTC's website.
Thanks in advance!
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Really only issues ive seen was TWC Mobile TV app wouldn't work when rooted. They finally just made it that you couldnt use it with USB debugging enabled, so was an easy enough fix (a check box) when i wanted to use it. So there is the rare chance that some specialty app you may or may not use might not work in a rooted state, but it has never effected me or anyone i know. If you have some special app that you rely on, research the app first to make sure. If that scenario isnt you, dont worry about unlocking and rooting, wont be an issue.

Le Eco Responds to why bootloader is locked and the problems they got with phones

It is a good thing the company will fix these issues and I told them about why the bootloader is unlocked and how eiu is buggy and a ton of other problems. Just see the screenshot for your self
I heard to allow Carrier Services (ie: VoLTE and WiFi Calling), they were required to lock the BL. It isn't much of an issue since we are able to flash the Chinese variant BL which is unlocked.
Who is the highest level executive that we have contact info for?
Wow now we have clearly information about future updates to come to our Pro 3 and the best, they want to make it look like stock android that is awesome! i can`t wait to see the results of that. i hope they do that for both Phones, LEX720 and the LEX727.
Now we have to wait, who knows when they drop the next Update or maybe direct EUI 6!
To them, this phone is a loss leader as a way to get people into their content business. They may not bother plugging every hole but I can't see them spending any engineering cycles to enable unlocking.
http://bug.letv.com/us/ue/feedback/detail/A2016WSN118XY11

Questions about bootloader unlocking before I make the purchase.

Hello all, I'm interested in purchasing the RN5 Pro, and I've seen a lot of bootloader unlocking related problems. I would like to flash Lineage OS on it. But, how long could this unlock process take? Could they deny me unlocking forever? I apologise for the ad nauseum, because I know that this question has been circling around quite a bit.
Thanks!
as i know, it takes 15 day to grant permission to unlock bootloader (now it's 2months, im not sure)
Then the unlock process just takes about under 15 mins
dont be worry too much about it, it's really simple and ez
I tried to unlock the phone yesterday and the unlock tool showed 720 hours waiting period, which is 30 days, and I retried today and it was still counting (708 hours or so)
I heard some people getting 1440 hours, but don't worry, once you unlock the bootloader everything becomes available, and by the way, you could like MIUI, it has most of the root functions without rooting (Restricting wifi/data from specific apps for example and many many customizations).
I would say get the phone, as soon as you get it apply for the unlock, and try MIUI until you can get to unlock the device.
Dr.TheMaster said:
I tried to unlock the phone yesterday and the unlock tool showed 720 hours waiting period, which is 30 days, and I retried today and it was still counting (708 hours or so)
I heard some people getting 1440 hours, but don't worry, once you unlock the bootloader everything becomes available, and by the way, you could like MIUI, it has most of the root functions without rooting (Restricting wifi/data from specific apps for example and many many customizations).
I would say get the phone, as soon as you get it apply for the unlock, and try MIUI until you can get to unlock the device.
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Thanks for the info! Appreciated. As far as MiUI goes, I don't dislike the look and feel much, but there are advertisements and spammy notifications everywhere, and that to me is unacceptable. On top of that, I'm a privacy conscious guy, so I don't know the kind of background tracking. So I'll most likely switch to Lineage if I get the chance to.
That really depends if your account has authorizations previously. if you have got authorizations previously for any of device. you can unlock any device without any wait. some times device association can take a little time. only if said device was associated with any other account previously
sukhwant717 said:
That really depends if your account has authorizations previously. if you have got authorizations previously for any of device. you can unlock any device without any wait. some times device association can take a little time. only if said device was associated with any other account previously
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Never owned a Mi product personally before, I don't have an account. And will be buying a new device if I decide to do so.
sukhwant717 said:
That really depends if your account has authorizations previously. if you have got authorizations previously for any of device. you can unlock any device without any wait. some times device association can take a little time. only if said device was associated with any other account previously
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i already unlocked santoni using my account once but with same account i m still waiting for 5 days now
aFoxWhoIsNice said:
Hello all, I'm interested in purchasing the RN5 Pro, and I've seen a lot of bootloader unlocking related problems. I would like to flash Lineage OS on it. But, how long could this unlock process take? Could they deny me unlocking forever? I apologise for the ad nauseum, because I know that this question has been circling around quite a bit.
Thanks!
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Just 720 hours or say one complete month thanx to xiaomi
CHETAN9 said:
Just 720 hours or say one complete month thanx to xiaomi
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i have owned multiple xiaomi devices and i was easily able to unlock it without any delay. may be because i activated devices only with the same account is already authorized to unlock.
whatsapp Acts funny on all custom roms / AOSP, that seems like whatsapp has made sure to be this way!
of you wana enjoy AOSP roms, buy A2 6X
you can stimply root it and keep the rom for good!
Hey there! The general bootloader unlocking wait time is 30 or even 60 days since the 1. September. It can be shorter, or there is no wait time at all if you have used a Mi account to unlock other devices before. But it depends on their mysteriously mysterious system. From what I read, it can make a difference if a phone number is associated with the account. But I wouldn't count on it for new accounts. Better expect the full and brutal 30 days unlock period.
As you mentioned privacy, it needs to be said that MIUI - the stock ROM of nearly all Xiaomi devices - is quite talkative and sends back data to their servers. They hide it in their terms of services, except that you are prompted to accept these terms of services once you set up your device. If you don't mind it, it should be okay and you can use your device normally until you can unlock the bootloader. After all, Google is also there in form of their Play Services and watch your activity as well. Buuuut, if you truly want to preserve your privacy, it's best not to use the device normally until you get to unlock your bootloader. Personally that is what I did, but rather because I really need and like to have root access on phones I own. In my humble opinion, the increased bootloader unlock time is there to force users to use MIUI. Previously normal times were 3, 7 and 14 days. In conjunction with the ads they want to force onto their users, and the data they collect, this just makes sense if you ask me. Despite this, and to mention positive points again, their phones are still really great value for the money. The Redmi Note 5 has excellent battery life, good mid-range phone performance, takes nice pictures as well and is basically just a pleasant device. Though, if you plan to use LineageOS, you will need to install one of the Mi A2 camera or Google Camera ports if you want to use LineageOS without having to sacrifice camera quality. Actually, with the Google Camera port the pictures of this device get even prettier than they normally look like with the MIUI camera! Might be a matter of taste after all, but I tested it myself and can just confirm what others said about the awesome picture quality.
In case if you will need it for the future, here is a little link collection, all from XDA:
Bootloader unlocking process (slightly outdated since no application is necessary anymore, but still accurate enough): https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ow-to-unlock-bootloader-redmi-note-5-t3757685
Recovery to replace the stock one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...t/recovery-red-wolf-recovery-project-t3766997
LineageOS 15.1: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/18-jul-lineageos-15-1-t3817814
Basically LineageOS, but even better: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ment/ota-resurrection-remix-os-6-0-0-t3777375
Mi A2 camera port: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...miui-stock-camera-portrait-mode-dual-t3816069
Google Camera: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/themes/app-arnova8g2s-google-camera-port-t3784423
Oh, and another side note. Should you decide to get the device, disable system updates in MIUI. Because of this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
Might look kinda scary to show you all of this, but I just want to let you know what you should know beforehand. Hope this helps you somehow! c:

Root in the Future

As many of you know the Nokia 8.1 is probably not going to get a method for a unlocked bootloader since H.M.D global shut down the exploit/way to aquire it.
I was wondering if there would be any reason that my beloved 8.1 couldn't be rooted by apps like Kingroot when they get the ability to root android PIE.
I didn't realize upon buying the phone that Nokia was so against rooting and im kinda bummed out that as of yet the phone isn't rootable yet. Might even trade it for a Pocophone and take the lack of NFC for granted
Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.
I really didn't know that there's almost no way to root this phone when I bought it 2 months ago, but luckily the only reason I've rooted my previous phone (Mi A1) was because of Gcam which is supported out of the box on this one. So it's fine for me, but I do see that no rooting method could be an issue for some people.
Sent from my Nokia 8.1 using Tapatalk
I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.
nitko666 said:
I have already replaced the phone because of lack of root / development for this phone. Hated the stock ROM because lots of things didnt work with it (samsung gear watch, some wireless APs, car navigation, etc etc) and without the development this would never be solved.
Also I have expected better camera for the price of the phone.
WIll never buy any HMD device ever again.
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Really !! this is surprise for me
I must have searched and read all forum on xda before buying this phone.
hope some body will post some steps to root it.
I read somewhere that some guys was able to root it.
hope I do not have to sell it.
looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.
light.apps said:
looks like not much active forum for our device.
less people with this device.
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Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.
Nollie8969 said:
Looks like not many want to ruin their brand new phone.
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XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:
You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.
Nollie8969 said:
You're right. At the end of the update cycle I like to install LOS or likewise. Not for the sake for Adaway only.
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Agree.
Just like what we're doing at home. We're using Samsung Note 3 (Cyanogenmod rom) as online phone for local line. Before that, the phone with default OS was too lagging and cannot even install the online phone app I need.
andreoide said:
XDA is all about root and ROMs
Every one clever would find out first BEFORE buy Nokia phones about the impossibility of rooting those.
I'm sure when root is possible in future ( some geek will find a way, its a phone and not a high end secure government secret thing lol ) more pple will come see this thread.
Mark my words :good:
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well said :good:
Motorola/Lenovo seems to be the last castle of root/development.
I was an early adopter of G7 (I bought it on initial release). As soon as BL unlock support added, BAM! rooted!
How easy it was and I am not developer
singhnsk said:
Do have mine unlocked and rooted. But the root is a messy task which will most likely take away OTA updates because any tampering is an end to the incremental OTA. Then flashing stock is a tough task too, because the awesome people at FIH Mobile forgot to disable fuse when bl is unlocked. Also, the process is kinda complicated and still under testing Given the complication, I'm sure it won't be freely available because it starts off by using paid tools to trigger debug mode.
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Bro, can you please explain about how to root my nokia 8.1

Newbie with A70 Advice To Root or not to Root?

Hi
Ive just ordered a A70 and was wondering what should i do and not do ie update etc?
Im wondering should i root or stay stock
But i do fancy installing LineageOS but do i need to root to install
Also will rooting void my warranty?
Thanks
I would wait till the android 10 update comes out, before you root.
It comes out in april.
And yes, rooting will 100% void your warranty forever.
Do I need to root to install LineageOS
bornnslippy said:
Do I need to root to install LineageOS
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No, you don't need to root.
But you need to have a custom recovery installed like TWRP.
(Would not recommend tho, to install a custom rom, because of the bugs. It's pretty unstable right now.)
Ok thanks
i personally like rooting all my phones i get.
but due to the lack of many custom roms, i first just used my phone as it is - stock.. see if i liked it like that and it was actually perfectly ok.
however after a few weeks i needed some extra volume boost with Android Auto, so i rooted to solely use Viper4Android.
my advice try stock for awhile see if you like it, if tou desperately need a rooted app then root.
I got a stupid question... will rooting my a70 prevent me from updates?
deloj said:
I got a stupid question... will rooting my a70 prevent me from updates?
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OTA updates - yes it will affect and won't be possible.
but flashing manually via ODIN - that's the way to do it
bornnslippy said:
Hi
Ive just ordered a A70 and was wondering what should i do and not do ie update etc?
Im wondering should i root or stay stock
But i do fancy installing LineageOS but do i need to root to install
Also will rooting void my warranty?
Thanks
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If you don't know why you need to root (without reason to install LineageOS, coz without root if i'm not wrong, it will not available), better stay away from root at all. Second it void yours warranty, but this is not worst thing, if you don't have nothing common with rooting, you can easily brick yours phone. Will be problems with that, you can easily lose it. Yhea, yhea developers probably know how to fix that and my warning sounds like funny post, but when I had one this situation, I had to bring it to authorized service (Then I had warranty and I did not said true what's happen in authorized service for fact that I could lose warranty. So they thought it just stucked my smartphone on boot without reason over night). As I know they changed motherboard and how I understand they did not unbricked it with programming process. So if authorized service will detect that it's your fault (if you will have to bring to they), you have to change motherboard (probably - it depends what to say to you authorized service), which cost for you a lot of money, coz you will lose warranty immediately. So if you want to root just for fact that some doing like that without any reasons (to change OS from official to 3rd parties - why need when update is will be official, you have warranty and ect???) - stay away from this idea at all. I recommend you at all don't modify software (if manufacture don't recommend to do some changes even in software). You can easily uninstall some unwanted apps (I couldn't to uninstall maybe only 5 apps from most, but they are still disabled very easily). Smartphone is smoothly, battery is very good. Why at all need to root this device??? Game running very well like: FIFA Mobile, Call of Duty Mobile, NBA 2K20, Asphalt 9 Legend (all in highest settings), if I remember right PUBG Mobile (which was mentioned in other thread and is very popular) worked to me smoothly too, but that game I don't like for strange blue (if I am not wrong) zone where need to run as quickly as possible someone from this zone, but I don't know where. Time always rans faster as I ran. I played it only maybe two time, ok three maybe for some minutes until I was killed by this zone. Don't worry you can play most popular games if you are gamer at all without any problems (i'm sure). Only NBA 2K Mobile lagging in this phone. It doesn't matter in low or highest settings, but how I understand from 2K, this is not phone guilty. As I understand, 2K did not supporting this game for Samsung A70 100% and probably it available in Google Play just for requirements compliance: need Android 8 or higher OS (Samsung A70 have Android 9). RAM must be more as 4 (Samsung A70 have 6 or 8, depends which version u ordered), also good and fast internet connection. There is no reason to lag, but lag is. So probably only these game you can't play from most popular games, I guess. Coz for me did not worked it good. Was big lag, then I bought NBA 2K20, which by the way is much more better as Mobile version. But I saw in Google Play is update for this game already which released December 6, 2019. Maybe already is fixed lag problem. Oh I forgot to write, lag is in Samsung S10 too which is flagship of 2019 from Samsung (I don't remember exactly in which model Note, + or any others, fact that in Samsung any S10 had to run it smoothly, but is the same problem. 2K explain that game is new, models are new, so... can be like this...but maybe will be fixed with future updates).
P.S. I don't know what you doing with smartphone: reading, watching video/movies or listening often music (sounds is not so loud as I expected and on all volume is not good, have distortion a little bit), browsing only or playing games. What is your skill of rooting and ect. I just wrote what I know and my recommendations to do not root. I tried some smartphone to root in past, I know some apps for that, I tried some methods for others phone and ect. So I know how possible to easily lose a phone if you are rookie at all in that. I can't understand at all why need to modify very good mid range smartphone with which you can do a lot of things without any problems? So sorry if my post sounds like scary warning or funny at all, but I just tried to shared my knowledge and experience about root, this model and ect.

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