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The point of having a micro sd card slot

is? If I cant see it in some apps or file explorer?

Root explorer and astro can see external. So does my apps
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As does es file explorer
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rambo8987 said:
Root explorer and astro can see external. So does my apps
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Thanks, I now see astro can see my micro sdcard and I can install apps that way but why does samsung make their file structure so limiting?

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As does es file explorer
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es file explorer didnt see my card. Or at least I couldnt navigate up a parent directory.

The stock my files app can.
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The stock my files app can.
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Youre running stock? I'm wondering if stock doesnt have this problem. Didnt bother checking.

Some apps such as Root Explorer you will find it located at mnt/extSdCard. Also for some app settings you can point to that. It works for me anyway.
EDIT: Ok just downloaded ES File explorer and figured it out. If you're rooted check 'root explorer' on and check 'Up to root'. Once you do that you can go up to parent folder and select mnt. There you will find /extSdCard. :thumbup:
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Issue is your apps can't use external sd card which sucks and no current rom from what I read fixes this because it is a Google screw up on purpose in Ics and jelly bean. You can only use internal memory to install apps now and I am pretty sure Google is doing this on purpose so you store more in their cloud and they can harvest your data more easily for targeted ads. If you install a lot of games from game loft forget it your 16gb internal memory is shot quick and your large sd card is sitting there empty.
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Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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es file explorer didnt see my card. Or at least I couldnt navigate up a parent directory.
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In ES Explorer you have to go to settings to allow "Root" in order to see your micro sd card in /mnt/extsdcard.

I'm certainly no expert here, but I don't think Google/Samsung have a conspiracy going. Coming from the Linux world, it's a common thing to mount storage under /mnt. The location of the external sd was also a bit weird on my last phone, the Moto Atrix. When it came out it took a while for app developers to adjust their programs to accommodate it (i.e., Titanium Backup). Hopefully the same will happen soon with the S III. As for the ability to move apps to the external sd, I'm not so sure that's a good idea anyway. For me doing that on any Android phone has always been somewhat problematic. I pretty much just use the sd for media storage now.
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SysAdmNj said:
is? If I cant see it in some apps or file explorer?
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All my mp3 are on the the SD card, same for pictures and video clips.

Yup 100% stock. I didnt root it yet.
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hunmin said:
In ES Explorer you have to go to settings to allow "Root" in order to see your micro sd card in /mnt/extsdcard.
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I dont need root (I dont even have root access on this phone) and I can see my SD card with any apps and I never needed to mount the card either.
I dont know what you are all doing wrong.

rickwood said:
I'm certainly no expert here, but I don't think Google/Samsung have a conspiracy going. Coming from the Linux world, it's a common thing to mount storage under /mnt. The location of the external sd was also a bit weird on my last phone, the Moto Atrix. When it came out it took a while for app developers to adjust their programs to accommodate it (i.e., Titanium Backup). Hopefully the same will happen soon with the S III. As for the ability to move apps to the external sd, I'm not so sure that's a good idea anyway. For me doing that on any Android phone has always been somewhat problematic. I pretty much just use the sd for media storage now.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. Why cant we navigate to /mnt and pick our storage ourselves.

drakeymcmb said:
Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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Thanks appreciate the help.
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sabre31 said:
Issue is your apps can't use external sd card which sucks and no current rom from what I read fixes this because it is a Google screw up on purpose in Ics and jelly bean. You can only use internal memory to install apps now and I am pretty sure Google is doing this on purpose so you store more in their cloud and they can harvest your data more easily for targeted ads. If you install a lot of games from game loft forget it your 16gb internal memory is shot quick and your large sd card is sitting there empty.
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Or maybe they just don't want to make average users go through a file explorer if possible?
It's not a conspiracy, even if you think it is.

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Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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How did i miss this reply, thanks that seems to help. Is there an original thread on this app or this issue by any chance?

SysAdmNj said:
How did i miss this reply, thanks that seems to help. Is there an original thread on this app or this issue by any chance?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652079

Google Play Music

So... I'm not really sure how to do this.. but I bought a 64 Gig Extra micro SD Card.. it works perfect..
When i download my google play music for offline.. i don't really have a choice to save it to the SD card.. i mean.. what's the point here?
As far as i know the only real app that I can use my EXT SD card for right now is the camera which auto saves to it.. other then that i can save Rom's and Zip's on it.. but i mean who cares.. I was really hoping to have my music saved on there.. =/
Guess ill have to manually copy the files over and not even use the google play music app?

If you manually copy the files to the extsd then the Google Play app will see them. Thats what I did and it now shows all my music as available for offline play. I'm not sure if it will put new stuff there though.
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PMentior said:
If you manually copy the files to the extsd then the Google Play app will see them. Thats what I did and it now shows all my music as available for offline play. I'm not sure if it will put new stuff there though.
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Does it do this seamlessly or is it duplicating things though? i.e. is it showing your collection twice, the online version and the offline version? I would think it would because it's looking in a different place for its offline cache.

I have been wondering the same thing. My entire collection is in google play, if I manually copy a bunch over to my SD card will it show up twice?

Mine only shows each song once. No duplicates.
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The google play music app shoulld work the same as the "Music" app, except now it has like 20k songs that can be streamed (in high quality too which is awesome).
So yes, as PMentior said, it shouldn't show dupes, even if you have the music uploaded.

I've noticed that 3rd party equalizer apps don't seem to work on music that is stored on the device. Are any of you guys seeing this same behavior? Seems to only happen with stock roms. AOKP seemed to work fine. Oh..in case you are curious, yes, I have changed the sound setting to point to the 3rd party app.

TheFiveDots said:
Does it do this seamlessly or is it duplicating things though? i.e. is it showing your collection twice, the online version and the offline version? I would think it would because it's looking in a different place for its offline cache.
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There is a place in the settings of the app where you can check a box that says something like "show offline music only".
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Yesterday I created a symlink in /data/data/com.google.android.music that points to my sdcard at /mnt/extSdCard/android/data/com.google.android.music and it works perfectly. No issues so far.
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d3athsd00r said:
Yesterday I created a symlink in /data/data/com.google.android.music that points to my sdcard at /mnt/extSdCard/android/data/com.google.android.music and it works perfectly. No issues so far.
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Does this require root?

Yeah.
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d3athsd00r said:
Yesterday I created a symlink in /data/data/com.google.android.music that points to my sdcard at /mnt/extSdCard/android/data/com.google.android.music and it works perfectly. No issues so far.
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Do you think you could give us a little walkthrough on how to do that. I'm very interested in trying it
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thebz1 said:
Do you think you could give us a little walkthrough on how to do that. I'm very interested in trying it
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I'm actually having issues now. Since the data is on the external SD card, which doesn't get mounted for a few seconds after boot, the app doesn't show up in the app drawer. I have to do a hot reboot to make it show up.
However, anyone still interested:
**STD Disclaimer** You accept all necessary risks and have created a nandroid backup like a good user.
In a file explorer capable of root:
1. go to /data/data and copy the folder com.google.android.music to /mnt/extSdCard/Android/data/
2. Now you should have com.google.android.music on your external sdcard.
3. go back to /data/data and rename the "com.google.android.music" folder to "com.google.android.music.bak" as a backup just in case.
4. In terminal emulator type (or a root adb shell):
Code:
su
ln -s /mnt/extSdCard/Android/data/com.google.android.music /data/data/com.google.android.music
5. You might need to reboot and/or hot-reboot for music to work.
6. if you want to revert these changes, just go to /data/data and delete the "com.google.android.music" symlink and rename "com.google.android.music.bak" back to "com.google.android.music"
*note*
if your Play Music app is installed as a system app, then replace the beginning of the paths with /system/data instead of /data/data
If someone can come up with a better method I am completely open to hearing it.

moving music and other files.

So I am trying to move music from my internal memory to my external micro SD card and I keep getting a error saying the transfer failed or when I try to delete a movie from my SD it won't delete. This is also using a brand new micro SD card. Is this a known issue due to KitKat?

justin24 said:
So I am trying to move music from my internal memory to my external micro SD card and I keep getting a error saying the transfer failed or when I try to delete a movie from my SD it won't delete. This is also using a brand new micro SD card. Is this a known issue due to KitKat?
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Its not an issue, its a 'feature' that google implemented. Only the app that created the data/folders can move them. So if the files were put on the internal memory by app A, then only app A can move them instead of using a file manager. Its stupid and annoying and I'm waiting for a patch to stop the madness.

Thank you for the info. Hope they fix that soon
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Thank you for the info. Hope they fix that soon
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It won't be "fixed" ever, as it's not broken. That's how google wants it. The theory is that it's to address security concerns, as well as keep the SD card from getting as cluttered with apps throwing their stuff all over the place. If you want to make it how it used to be before kit-kat, rooting is probably your best/only option. If HTC had included a file manager, you could at least move files around on the card and transfer them to and from it as OEM/System level file managers can still do that. Since they didn't though, it makes it worse.

Copy fail onto memory card.

Anyone tried shifting files from phone memory to memory card? (from your phone) It wouldn't happen. Why is that?
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Requires root - Nextapp SD Fix

Root!? just to copy and paste files from our phone itself? That's really stupid don't you think?
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It's the way Android is going. There are plenty of articles around explaining why this is happening. Similarly, root is being made more difficult for developers to implement in the next version of Android.
I think it's a pain, but there's no point in getting upset. It's a bit like having a moan because winter comes around once every year.

I had the same problem even with root using root explorer. Had to use ESexplorer and it worked fine.

I believe you can move many files to SD without root if you use settings.
Settings, Storage, Phone Storage, make more space, then select the folders/files and move to sd card.

Did that. Now I'm having problems shifting things stuff with in my memory card. Through es file explorer.
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fix read/write External SdCard whitout root

Iam a owner of a Samsung Note 4 ... Iam new born here... and my problem its I don't want to root ( on this time ) the cell....so I need to know if exist any way to : read and write a External SdCard.. because I cant do this...
please any ??

I don't understand why you can't. Lollipop allows it (you have to choose sd card directory for the app in question), at least on an app-by-app basis.
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keithfrombm said:
I don't understand why you can't. Lollipop allows it (you have to choose sd card directory for the app in question), at least on an app-by-app basis.
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Well for example the app called: e-sword.. that cant access or run if the modules its on a external SdCard..so I need to put all the modules in internal memory..
Atach my system and the nag screen of e-sword
But they are another apps like "Pixlr" its a photo editors and cant save in the ExtSdCard... I came from S4 and on that phone dont have any problems
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Oy. Sorry, I haven't even explored this dilemma, since I hadn't encountered it with any of my apps (yet). I tested out Pixlr, and you're right, it won't saved to the sd card (from the app). Not sure why. But I could still move the pictures with ES File Explorer or the built-in My Files. As for e-sword I can't find it in the English Play Store. So I couldn't test it out. Wish I could be of some help, but it'll take one of the smarter guys to field this question.
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This feature is available on lollipop but the app developer needs to implement it, most are using the old method of read/write which only works on 4.3 or earlier, if you can use an alternative until the app gets updated