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Hi,
There was a lot of talk that HTC Desire suffers from overheating and random rebooting problems. Even worse, when they get their phone "repaired" after warranty service it still suffers from same problems, people needed to resend theirs Desire few times until its fixed. Well im planning to buy Desire but i wouldnt want those problems, in fact i pay quite a big price. One guy in this forum said that only two first motherboard revisions had that problem, but newer revisions no longer has this problem, altough i know a person who bought HTC Desire in late December, 2010, and well she said that her Desire sometimes gets hot somewhere in the bottom and reboots, but that doesnt happen often so thats not a problem for her. So seriously, what is the problem? If i will buy HTC Desire now is there a chance that i will have same problems? Or i should skip that phone and go straight to Desire HD or Desire S?
Thanks for answers
I'd go for desire s. Love my desire, but lack of space is really starting to annoy me. Had my mobo replaced few months ago, no reboots yet. Desire s is not MUCH better phone, but it looks like all the bad points with original desire have been rectified.
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tinky1 said:
I'd go for desire s. Love my desire, but lack of space is really starting to annoy me. Had my mobo replaced few months ago, no reboots yet. Desire s is not MUCH better phone, but it looks like all the bad points with original desire have been rectified.
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Well i would think the same, but we are still not sure about Desire S. How many problems will it have? Perhaps it will also have showstoppers? In fact i believe that Desire S in no way would have as rich selection of Roms as the original Desire or even Desire HD. Just because i dont think its gonna be popular enough, so no people will use that phone - no contribution they could do. Other than that i really like that phone from what ive seen, its even better than Desire, but its price is a bit too big imo for now, perhaps it will become cheaper after it will be released...
I don't know about the overheating problems. I got my Desire July last year and had no issues with it at all. I don't know about you but I would prob get Desire S, purely because it is newer. I doubt their would be any issues at all but if your still not 100% sure what to do, just wait a couple of months and see if there are any complaints about the Desire S. It probably wouldn't be as popular as the original Desire, but I reckon there will be a fair few devs out there that would do the work.
If you want to by pass all these issues with the Desire I recommend getting the HTC Evo 4G. It never over-heats nor has random reboots. Just for a little more cash it is well worth price.
You know what's crap about 4G? We don't have it in the UK.
Well im in Europe and it doesnt support cdma phones so Evo is no go for me. Today our local shop announced that Desire S will be available at early april with a price of 448 euros. The price isnt that bad, and in fact that after the phone gets in the shop and if you wait for a few weeks the price always drops by 30 euros, so it will be even better. In fact that original Desire has price of 405 euro, so i dont think i should get old one and probably will head straight to Desire S, but ill wait to ensure Desire s has no problems for about a month.
Best phone of the moment is lg optimus dual...believe me..better hardware, good price
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Best phone of the moment is lg optimus dual...believe me..better hardware, good price
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Im not going to go deep into dual core discussion, but you dont know what are you talking about. Current android versions doesnt even support dual cores, even when it will support it dual core cpu will gain zero performance boost in most operations, just because dual core 1ghz doesnt mean 2ghz. And seeing latest nvidia news makes me laugh, the quad core mobile cpus is just an absurd. Even on pc theres actually no programs or even video games which uses more than two cores (except for compiling and video decoding which most of you dont use), so why would we need quad core cpu on phone? The atrix users already have random rebooting issues, while snapdragon's second gen cpu doesnt have any problems at all. And from the hands on it actually feels that atrix, optimus 2x or even galaxy s2 have slight lag when switching through homescreens, but HTC phones are 100% smooth. So judging about phone's performance by looking at the specs is just silly.
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Im not going to go deep into dual core discussion, but you dont know what are you talking about. Current android versions doesnt even support dual cores, even when it will support it dual core cpu will gain zero performance boost in most operations, just because dual core 1ghz doesnt mean 2ghz. And seeing latest nvidia news makes me laugh, the quad core mobile cpus is just an absurd. Even on pc theres actually no programs or even video games which uses more than two cores (except for compiling and video decoding which most of you dont use), so why would we need quad core cpu on phone? The atrix users already have random rebooting issues, while snapdragon's second gen cpu doesnt have any problems at all. And from the hands on it actually feels that atrix, optimus 2x or even galaxy s2 have slight lag when switching through homescreens, but HTC phones are 100% smooth. So judging about phone's performance by looking at the specs is just silly.
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Actually i know that current android dont support multi core and i also know that 1gh dual core are not 2ghz..thanks anyway
..But android 2.4 will support multi core procesors..so if u want a phone thinking for a long period, then in my opinion that is a good choice..
"so why would we need quad core cpu on phone?" if u really think this, buy a nokia 6600
u must think in future purpose, this just my opinion...if u like buy a phone every year and have money for that, then do it..i had 3 phones in the last 8 years..every time i choice a phone to have for a long time..
sorry for my english
Android 2.4 is gingerbread for every other device apart from the nexus one and nexus s and a couple more phones. 2.4 does not support gingerbread either.
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[...] so why would we need quad core cpu on phone?
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If all ppl thought like you we would still go on horseback and there won't be any cars, planes and so on
In technical terms it is NEVER relevant if we really "NEED" it, because the important thing to evolve is to think "is it possible to do"!
Definitely quad core cpus is innovation, but its just an absurd because currently even pcs dont really use more than two cores for average user. If quad cores doesnt have anything useful for pcs how could they be useful to smartphone? Sorry but blindly following whats new is just stupid. Everything has boundaries. Why nobody makes pcs with 12 cores or even more now? Because it could be totally useless so pcs now dont get anything new because its already full featured and theres nothing you can add. The same story is with smart phones, why would you need it? Are you planning to compile applications with your phone? As some people say: Talk loud, repeat that few times and people will believe it. Im not going to be victim of adverts. Everyone chooses what they like, i choose HTC just because its reliable, smooth software, not like crappy LG or Samsung which has good hardware but poor software. In fact in day to day operations dual core phones like galaxy s2 or optimus 2x felt even laggier than HTC devices. Just because their software is crap.
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Definitely quad core cpus is innovation, but its just an absurd because currently even pcs dont really use more than two cores for average user. If quad cores doesnt have anything useful for pcs how could they be useful to smartphone? Sorry but blindly following whats new is just stupid. Everything has boundaries. Why nobody makes pcs with 12 cores or even more now? Because it could be totally useless so pcs now dont get anything new because its already full featured and theres nothing you can add. The same story is with smart phones, why would you need it? Are you planning to compile applications with your phone? As some people say: Talk loud, repeat that few times and people will believe it. Im not going to be victim of adverts. Everyone chooses what they like, i choose HTC just because its reliable, smooth software, not like crappy LG or Samsung which has good hardware but poor software. In fact in day to day operations dual core phones like galaxy s2 or optimus 2x felt even laggier than HTC devices. Just because their software is crap.
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between Apple and HTC, I'd say HTC is laggier & I have both.
I have near zero faith in LG & Samsung in software fixes. I'd rather go for Nokia for reliable hardware
HTC Desire is laggy as hell for me when I was using unrooted froyo so best not to judge a phone by it's cover. (Laggy as in really sluggish performance in terms of web browsing/certain gaming lag not to mention hot as -)
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between Apple and HTC, I'd say HTC is laggier & I have both.
I have near zero faith in LG & Samsung in software fixes. I'd rather go for Nokia for reliable hardware
HTC Desire is laggy as hell for me when I was using unrooted froyo so best not to judge a phone by it's cover. (Laggy as in really sluggish performance in terms of web browsing/certain gaming lag not to mention hot as -)
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You should have seriously checked your apps. All of the reviewers say that HTC Desire is super smooth (at least compared to other android handsets). While definitely its not as smooth as iphone, it gives me user power. Theres only one device which runs ios so ios is optimized for that iphone, while in comparison there are hundreds of android devices and optimizing android for every device is unpractical, so thats why android devices dont work as smooth as iphone. The reason im not choosing Iphone is the limitations and restrictions it has. Im a geek, and i want geekish phone.
Btw are you still in 2003? Forget Nokia's hardware, now its the same as others, i own few Nokias and their build quality isnt better than Samsung. New nokias are unstable and weak like all other manufacturers and thats natural because the more complex phone is the more fragile it is.
Possible Fix for Overheating HTC Desire
Hi!
I have a HTC Desire with the AMOLED-Screen, which is said to be way better than the SLCD. I did a lot of research using Google and various forums, but did not find a real fix for my overheating phone: everytime i did more than just listen to music, my phone rebooted over and over again. It did get hot in the commonly described areas (around the microSDHC and SIM-Card and the little black square), and i had to rip off the battery to make it stop. I was really annoyed since i read that i would get a replacement without the AMOLED-Screen, that is why i decided to do some testing on my own. I found out, that i had less trouble with higher workload when i enhanced cooling by putting it in the fridge for example. (Other things like changing the microSDHC did not solve the problem for me.) When it comes to computers overheating, you clean them and have a look at the thermal grease between the chips and the coolers - and that is what i decided to do to my phone. On the inside of the battery cover, there is some metal-like shield in the lower area. I guess it is there for heat dissipation - but maybe it did not have proper contact. As i did not want to clutter the phone with thermal paste, i ordered a pad on ebay (for about 2€), cut it into smaller pieces and attached it to the parts that are known to become hot (see above). Then i attached my phone to the charger and ran a lot of apps, that would usually make my phone crash (Music Player, Skype, Internet Browsing at the same time). The back of the phone grew hotter and hotter (and was, in the end, a lot hotter than anything i have encountered over the last few month with my crashing phone), but it was stable!
So, if you are annoyed with your overheating HTC Desire: This might be a fix for you:
Buy a thermal pad (as it is used for CPUs, GPUs or Chipsets, mine was about 0,5mm thick) and attach it to the metal parts over SIM and microSDHC as well as the tiny black square and the area to the left of it. Mount the battery cover and enjoy!
Hope i could help
Terminator
I also posted this in another thread, but it might be a bit easier to find that way.
EDIT: Turns out, the "fix" only delays the reboot-loop. It appears a lot more stable, yet it did still annoy me. Yesterday i handed it in for a replacement.
I wonder why the G3 doesn't score better in comparison in these tests? Even the G2 did better in some.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ess-outperform-competing-phones-in-benchmarks
Because of screen resolution.
Not entirely, its more about optimisation. iOS devices have always done well in Sunspider because OS and browser optimisation is by far the most important factor. The fact is the differences you see here are probably not even noticeable to the user anyway.
Also remember that the article was on Apple insider, the benchmarks are cherry picked to make the iPhone look good. Its also been reported that Safari is somewhat 'designed' to win at this benchmark.. if you get my meaning.
For what its worth my G3 did Sunspider in 726ms, not the 875 quoted in the article..
to be quite honest I was sad when I saw poor marks in an tu tu and geekbench, initially. but later I thought f*ck that. it gives me what I want- a gorgeous screen with smooth performance in heavy game like asphalt 8 and playing videos in 2k and 4k resolution with ac3 and dts sound with 21/22 hours battery on a single charge. so no worries about how much the synths performance goes in the south
slower RAM, throthling
G3 has slower RAM than G2. Looks like Lg sadly wanted to save some money.
And now G3 is crapping out in RAM extensive benchmarks!
I hear also G3 can overheat and throthle in benchmarks thus worse scores than G2.
Maybe some devels can bump up clocks on RAM, but I don't know about the heat. In my opinion G3 realy needs all aluminum case at those speeds to dispatch heat better. The heat is becoming a BIG PROBLEM in so fast smartphones.
xgman said:
I wonder why the G3 doesn't score better in comparison in these tests? Even the G2 did better in some.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ess-outperform-competing-phones-in-benchmarks
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Display causing it. Adreno 330 is not a powerful GPU for QHD displays. Yes there was some overheat problems but it solved, at least its %90 of overheating problem solved. RAM management is not a problem. RAM is good and works really nice it doesn't makes any lag or freezing crashing etc. Got 41K on benchmark at most. When i first benchmarked it was 31K and it was biggest disappointment of the year.
Its NOT the display resolution!!!! This has been covered over and over. The G3 under performs even in pure CPU benchmarks that dont even involve the display, its because of excessive thermal control. Tweak the CPU governor, disable as much of the thermal control as possible and it becomes much quicker.
For example my G3 out benches the N5 and G2 in Basemark X GPU tests if I force it to scale up. This murders battery life because the only way we have to force the issue is to force it. We need a custom kernel so we can set better CPU limits and get rid of LGs junk thermal control.
This is how my F460 (Prime) did with Sunspider. Higher end SOC & Adreno.
Once we get custom kernels and roms (if we ever), the scores, and even battery life will improve. LG G3 stock rom is so heavy compared to pure AOSP or even CM. We need some AOSP love. This device will fly...
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Once we get custom kernels and roms (if we ever), the scores, and even battery life will improve. LG G3 stock rom is so heavy compared to pure AOSP or even CM. We need some AOSP love. This device will fly...
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To be fair, the numbers you're getting on the G3 720p 3dmark test mentioned in the report are higher than that of the ipad air or the ipad retina according to 3dmark's own records.
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Display causing it. Adreno 330 is not a powerful GPU for QHD displays. Yes there was some overheat problems but it solved, at least its %90 of overheating problem solved. RAM management is not a problem. RAM is good and works really nice it doesn't makes any lag or freezing crashing etc. Got 41K on benchmark at most. When i first benchmarked it was 31K and it was biggest disappointment of the year.
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So your devices are outperforming Apple's best tablets despite them not being optimized for benchmarks due to throttling (thermal).
Cxpher said:
To be fair, the numbers you're getting on the G3 720p 3dmark test mentioned in the report are higher than that of the ipad air or the ipad retina according to 3dmark's own records.
So your devices are outperforming Apple's best tablets despite them not being optimized for benchmarks due to throttling (thermal).
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Yes. Thermal protecting is nice addition. But when device overheats it makes barely unusable. Cannot make calls due to heat on the top. And i think same Adreno 330 will perform really good performance on up to 1080P devices. But 1440 is overwhelming for it. They should wait and put Adreno 420+S805 APQ8084 which clocks 2.7 GHz (2675 actual). Maybe 420 will perform better on QHD displays.
I also had some issues with LG back in time. But honestly i didn't had any problem with phone except overheating. UI is ultra-smooth comparing to TouchWiz. As a 6 year user of Samsung Android phones it made me feel better. I had some worries before buying to phone due to old fails from LG. But my choice was giving it a try. Now i see how much i did good with buying it. Best phone ever for me. If the overheating stuff is going to solve one day i'd be love my phone more.
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Yes. Thermal protecting is nice addition. But when device overheats it makes barely unusable. Cannot make calls due to heat on the top. And i think same Adreno 330 will perform really good performance on up to 1080P devices. But 1440 is overwhelming for it. They should wait and put Adreno 420+S805 APQ8084 which clocks 2.7 GHz (2675 actual). Maybe 420 will perform better on QHD displays.
I also had some issues with LG back in time. But honestly i didn't had any problem with phone except overheating. UI is ultra-smooth comparing to TouchWiz. As a 6 year user of Samsung Android phones it made me feel better. I had some worries before buying to phone due to old fails from LG. But my choice was giving it a try. Now i see how much i did good with buying it. Best phone ever for me. If the overheating stuff is going to solve one day i'd be love my phone more.
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I'm using the LG G3 F460S (Cat 6 or 'Prime' as it's known to some) which has the Snap 805 and Adreno 420. No overheating issues here.
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I'm using the F460S which has the Snap 805 and Adreno 420.
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Other than LTE CAT 6 version, all of G3 versions have S801+A420. If i'm not wrong its same on T-Mobile, AT&T and International model (D855). I think yours is CAT 6 version whichone released after some months. In performance may a bit better with S805 but in GPU i cannot say such a verified info. Just thought maybe A420 can handle QHD screen. If even it cannot handle, that means devices aren't ready for QHD screens. It's like for example trying to make Watch Dogs work with GT740M. Full of freezing, overheating on card and even burning it. It's another reason for waiting AOSP based ROM. Honestly i want to taste Android L with its pure edition like on Nexus 5. But LG's original ROM's doesn't has that much bloatware and it made me happy and that's why i can wait for it. But sadly no one seems to successful on unlocking bootloader. In my prev. phone SGN3 i had to delete at least 100 apps whichones are useless. In LG i just deleted 3 apps from operators and providers.
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Other than LTE CAT 6 version, all of G3 versions have S801+A420. If i'm not wrong its same on T-Mobile, AT&T and International model (D855). I think yours is CAT 6 version whichone released after some months. In performance may a bit better with S805 but in GPU i cannot say such a verified info. Just thought maybe A420 can handle QHD screen. If even it cannot handle, that means devices aren't ready for QHD screens. It's like for example trying to make Watch Dogs work with GT740M. Full of freezing, overheating on card and even burning it. It's another reason for waiting AOSP based ROM. Honestly i want to taste Android L with its pure edition like on Nexus 5. But LG's original ROM's doesn't has that much bloatware and it made me happy and that's why i can wait for it. But sadly no one seems to successful on unlocking bootloader. In my prev. phone SGN3 i had to delete at least 100 apps whichones are useless. In LG i just deleted 3 apps from operators and providers.
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All versions pack the S801 with Adreno 330 (not 420).
Only the version I'm using has the S805 with Adreno 420.
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All versions pack the S801 with Adreno 330 (not 420).
Only the version I'm using has the S805 with Adreno 420.
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Oh lol sorry yes A330. Had mini confusion. S801+A330. The Korean version has CAT 6 and S805+A420. However phone is excellent without single doubt. Hope we can unlock the bootloader and can enjoy more with our phones.
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Oh lol sorry yes A330. Had mini confusion. S801+A330. The Korean version has CAT 6 and S805+A420. However phone is excellent without single doubt. Hope we can unlock the bootloader and can enjoy more with our phones.
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Hope so too but it's looking to be unlikely.
This is the first phone I haven't rooted and flashed with a custom rom/kernel and I've owned many (listed below).
HTC Dream
Nexus 1
Galaxy S2
HTC One X
Xperia Z1
HTC Butterfly S
Nexus 5
That's because the stock rom is decent. Of course rooting is always on the cards because I can flash mods or even test mods that I make via CWM/TWRP and make nandroid backups.
Android L will make this device better!
ART runtime with 60 FPS UI and Project Volta can only make this far better. Regardless of whether it's a D855/F400 or F460S.
Problem with LG is timely updates. Imo, the least they could do is to let is unlock the bootloader to compensate.
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Hope so too but it's looking to be unlikely.
This is the first phone I haven't rooted and flashed with a custom rom/kernel and I've owned many (listed below).
HTC Dream
Nexus 1
Galaxy S2
HTC One X
Xperia Z1
HTC Butterfly S
Nexus 5
That's because the stock rom is decent. Of course rooting is always on the cards because I can flash mods or even test mods that I make via CWM/TWRP and make nandroid backups.
Android L will make this device better!
ART runtime with 60 FPS UI and Project Volta can only make this far better. Regardless of whether it's a D855/F400 or F460S.
Problem with LG is timely updates. Imo, the least they could do is to let is unlock the bootloader to compensate.
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Android L is one of exciting stuff that i want to see with ART runtime. Same problem on Samsung. In Turkey samsung devices never get any attention and softwares mostly buggy. I reported one of bugs and they banned me on their facebook page for reporting a critical system bug. Samsung is really loving its customers. Hope LG is not going to ungenerous on updates and send our updates on time. Honestly i have no hopes that we can see Android L before late 2015.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?
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The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?
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I haven't had a Galaxy SIII. Otherwise I come from a iPhone 4s, and before this I had a Sony-Ericsson Arc S. Personally speaking, I had a lot of problems with the Xperia: continuous rebooting, RAM limits, not software updates, etc. So I felt let down by Android, and I decide to switch to another platform. I can tell that the iPhone worked just fine, but I never felt comfortable in such a closed OS. Reading about technology and gadgets I realized that in three years Android had improved enough and it had become a very mature platform, so I came back to android. I chose the LG G3, because of the good reviews and the better price/value ratio, and I cant tell you that this was a very good decision. To sum up, the LG G3 is a very good device in every single aspect. It's cute, light and has an incredibly screen. Even with its huge 5.5' qHD screen, it's easily one hand managed. I heard complaints about poor battery life, overheating issues and lags. In contrast I never had one single issue: no lags, no overheating, great battery life and an incredible performance.
Last but not least the G3 has matured enough in the community to have a great developer support. Right now you can install Stock based Lollipop ROMs that will make your experience with this phone even better.
I bought my phone in July 2014. If, right now, I'd have to buy a new phone, it'd be the LG G3, again.
I came from S3. Totally new life with G3. No regrets.
I upgraded from an S3 too, no regrets whatshowever, the camera is a bit slower but the quality is so much better. As well as that, the screen is awesome! I strongly advise you to do so
I also upgrade from S3 to G3 (so many 3's )... The difference is huge. Much faster, great screen and not so big (for me is ok).
The only thing that dissapoint me is that in S3 we have so many roms, kernels, tweaks, etc etc and in G3 there are few (but goods )
So, for me, the upgrade is a Must and i'm really happy with that...
If you could get your hands on the 3GB ram version I would highly advise that to make it more future proof (you seem like a guy who wanna keep his phone for a while).
Thanks all, couldn't find a 3GB version, but ebuyer seem to be the cheapest, so bought it from there. Now just need to get them to actually deliver it. They've said they shipped via Yodel, which are not known for good customer service. Last package someone sent via them they lost!
I'll probably have lots of questions once I've got it!
Im looking to change my moto X 2013. Im on a mental fight beetwen the Moto X play, Zenfone 2 and Mi4C. I have some questions, how is the problem on the battery? How do you feel you device? Last you all day? And the camera I Know os good but not as moto X. On performance the intele is much different to the 615 or 808? Thanks
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Im looking to change my moto X 2013. Im on a mental fight beetwen the Moto X play, Zenfone 2 and Mi4C. I have some questions, how is the problem on the battery? How do you feel you device? Last you all day? And the camera I Know os good but not as moto X. On performance the intele is much different to the 615 or 808? Thanks
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Hey there!
I've been using ZenFone 2 since 4th August and I have had a great experience with it.
1) Battery: People say that the phone has a bad battery backup but I fail to see why they say so. The phone lasts me a full 16 hour day with data/Wi-Fi and maybe a total of 2 hours of gaming (Minecraft, Bombsquad)
2) Charging: The quickcharge feature is very useful. It charges at approx 1.5%/min, which is pretty good for me. I have a habit of carrying my charger with me, and a couple of short 10 mins charges prove to be very useful. Although it must be noted that the phone heats up pretty much (not un-holdable) while quickcharging.
3) Performance: Almost 2 months. No lag. Not even once. I have tested games like GTA San Andreas at highest possible graphics and it runs smoothly. (After one update you need to switch the battery mode to "Performace" to enjoy few games without lag). And the 4GB of RAM make multitasking feel like a breeze. (There's a con too, read on).
4) Camera: I rarely click photos, so it wasn't a consideration for me while buying the phone. The camera is par, nothing great, nothing pathetic. The front camera follows pretty much the same suit.
5) UI/OS: The biggest con. ZenUI is bloated with so many apps, some useful, some not so much. The useful ones include an in-built Greenify (called Auto-start manager), and an app which lets you change the colour temperature of the screen (called Splendid). But the whole UI is far from stock Android. The system takes up 1.3GB of RAM on an average (started with only 700-800MB, but as the updates kept coming, the system became even more of a RAM hog), leaving you with a usable of around 2.5GB RAM. On the bright side, updates are pretty frequent, but it will never be as up-to-date as Moto X Play will, since Moto is literally stock android. Android Marshmallow (6.0) has released and we haven't even gotten 5.1.
There you go, I hope it helped!
PlayPratz said:
Hey there!
I've been using ZenFone 2 since 4th August and I have had a great experience with it.
1) Battery: People say that the phone has a bad battery backup but I fail to see why they say so. The phone lasts me a full 16 hour day with data/Wi-Fi and maybe a total of 2 hours of gaming (Minecraft, Bombsquad)
2) Charging: The quickcharge feature is very useful. It charges at approx 1.5%/min, which is pretty good for me. I have a habit of carrying my charger with me, and a couple of short 10 mins charges prove to be very useful. Although it must be noted that the phone heats up pretty much (not un-holdable) while quickcharging.
3) Performance: Almost 2 months. No lag. Not even once. I have tested games like GTA San Andreas at highest possible graphics and it runs smoothly. (After one update you need to switch the battery mode to "Performace" to enjoy few games without lag). And the 4GB of RAM make multitasking feel like a breeze. (There's a con too, read on).
4) Camera: I rarely click photos, so it wasn't a consideration for me while buying the phone. The camera is par, nothing great, nothing pathetic. The front camera follows pretty much the same suit.
5) UI/OS: The biggest con. ZenUI is bloated with so many apps, some useful, some not so much. The useful ones include an in-built Greenify (called Auto-start manager), and an app which lets you change the colour temperature of the screen (called Splendid). But the whole UI is far from stock Android. The system takes up 1.3GB of RAM on an average (started with only 700-800MB, but as the updates kept coming, the system became even more of a RAM hog), leaving you with a usable of around 2.5GB RAM. On the bright side, updates are pretty frequent, but it will never be as up-to-date as Moto X Play will, since Moto is literally stock android. Android Marshmallow (6.0) has released and we haven't even gotten 5.1.
There you go, I hope it helped!
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Thank you that help me a lot, on the camera I feel that the X play win and battery too. But Im more sure to buy the Zenfone because the performance.
I own the Zenfone 2 (WWW, 4GB) for 3 weeks, now.
It's an very good phone. Battery life is ok for me. Root & Xposed works (important for me),
Because I'm not a gamer and the other "normal life" performance is great I wouldn't call it a Mid-ranger. For me it in the lower part of High-range.
Hi, I'd like to pick a phone in 300 budget range and I'd like it to last for 2 years without becoming laggy.
I actually can't open my keyboard in a game or sometime in Chrome it take 5seconds to open. I'd like to avoid that in the futur.
I am so dissapointed with my last phone that I really want to avoid that.
So, to those who owned or used something with 650~820 processors, would you sacrify amoled/super battery for the extra cpu power?
(I don't care about gaming)
Could that extra power might be the thing that will let the phone be smooth in the 1/1.5 next years?
Thanks
i also want to use my phone for 2 years atleast
thats why i bought this P2
if ROM is optimized, then i dont think this phone will get laggy ..
currently i am on CustomRom based on 7.1.1 , its smooth and Not laggy at all..
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I've been buying flagships for the past 10-15 years, and replaced a Samsung S7 Edge with this one, and I don't regret it. I'm not going to buy another flagship for a long time, since it's clearly some good phones at over half the price and even less. This P2 is the most value I've ever had. I'm already looking forward to see what Lenovo brings next update.
When Nougat arrives in April, this phone will be absolutely fantastic.
Only downside coming form the S7 Edge is the camera, but I can live with it, and that's the most important part.
Battery lasts forever...
I agree with nandakis , i'm trying different Roms but they are all smooth and no lag . I would recommend the phone
I had before Xiaomi Mi5, the CPU in P2 is quiet good only drawback for me was camera, rest of it is better :]
nandakis4 said:
i also want to use my phone for 2 years atleast
thats why i bought this P2
if ROM is optimized, then i dont think this phone will get laggy ..
currently i am on CustomRom based on 7.1.1 , its smooth and Not laggy at all..
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Then let's hope that the cpu won't struggle!
kentroger1 said:
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I've been buying flagships for the past 10-15 years, and replaced a Samsung S7 Edge with this one, and I don't regret it. I'm not going to buy another flagship for a long time, since it's clearly some good phones at over half the price and even less. This P2 is the most value I've ever had. I'm already looking forward to see what Lenovo brings next update.
When Nougat arrives in April, this phone will be absolutely fantastic.
Only downside coming form the S7 Edge is the camera, but I can live with it, and that's the most important part.
Battery lasts forever...
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Man ATM I just want 300$ to pop in my hand then I can buy the P2 :> But I read the same thing for my actual phone which is a Motorola G third gen. It was "even competitiv to S4/S5 and other flagships" this is why I am so unsur and afraid
The Mero said:
I agree with nandakis , i'm trying different Roms but they are all smooth and no lag . I would recommend the phone
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And how is the stock ROM? I'd like to wait before unlocking bootloader etc. I don't even know if I'll unlock it
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I had before Xiaomi Mi5, the CPU in P2 is quiet good only drawback for me was camera, rest of it is better :]
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That's nice to hear. I also saw that you have a Moto G3, the 2GB version? How is P2 compared to G3? Much faster?
I'd rather have 2GB of memory extra, then a faster cpu...
Yeah. The ram makes the phone very much faster to use. 2 instances of pokemon go works fine, never unloads.
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That's nice to hear. I also saw that you have a Moto G3, the 2GB version? How is P2 compared to G3? Much faster?
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I had 1GB version Moto G3, sluggish because of 1GB ram
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I had 1GB version Moto G3, sluggish because of 1GB ram
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So the difference is huge at the usage?
I am so tilted when keyboard doesn't show up @____@will try google stock keyboard, hope it's faster and as good as swiftkey
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I had 1GB version Moto G3, sluggish because of 1GB ram
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i have 2GB16gb xt1555 variant of MotoG3
its working fine, it has CustomROM -RR 7.1.1 rom in it , as i dont install much apps,its smooth .. i have never faced keyboard issue with it
if i have to compare now p2 and G3
1)G3 has aggresive battery drain and heating issues while in SUMMER P2 is Damn awesome with CustomROM on it , it gets warm but never as HOT as we couldnt take it to ear
2) P2 Camera is Much better in GoodSunlight, but HDR processing is bad on P2 than G3, low light Both are pathetic with slow Shutterspeeds and shakes
3) Opening apps is alike on both phones, but P2 goes ahead in gaming and grabbing internet resources..
Not worth it, you'll only notice the better cpu in gaming and some cpu intensive tasks like unpacking/repacking archives, video/photo editing. Even high end games are running smooth on P2, just the graphics are lowered. The phone feels snappy in everyday use. And trust me you'll be mostly thankful for the big battery.
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Not worth it, you'll only notice the better cpu in gaming and some cpu intensive tasks like unpacking/repacking archives, video/photo editing. Even high end games are running smooth on P2, just the graphics are lowered. The phone feels snappy in everyday use. And trust me you'll be mostly thankful for the big battery.
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Oh you mean paying extra $ for High end is not worth it?
I thought you were comparing a MOTO G3 to P2 I was scared
But then thanks yeah that's what I read on internet. Same things that I read @G3 moment but G3 had low specs tho even if it was decently smooth
given the battery trade of for the more powerful chips i have to say no, ive not had any performance issues with mine that i could note. put simply if i had the choice of a p2 with an 820 or its current 625 id choose the 625 every time