Hello guys I'm a total n00b when it comes to rooting and such and I have a question, that most of you guys will probably find dumb but I'm seriously confused.
I ordered the Zenfone 2 with 4gb ram & 64 gigs of storage and I plan on rooting it once it arrives.
What is the difference between rooting your phone and installing a custom rom such as cyanogenMod?
What are the benefits to both and the main difference?
Is one easier to do and is less risky or what?
Please explain in a way I can understand, thank you!!
Rooting the phone means you can modify the system files. It's useful because you can add or remove features of the stock rom on your phone (theme manager, ad blocker, and almost anything you may need)
Cyanogenmod is a rom based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project, by Google), it's rooted, and comes with a lot of features that are not in AOSP.
For the moment, there is no Cyanogenmod rom for our beloved Zenfone 2, and maybe it will never happen. But only time can say.
Baylee Ray said:
Hello guys I'm a total n00b when it comes to rooting and such and I have a question, that most of you guys will probably find dumb but I'm seriously confused.
I ordered the Zenfone 2 with 4gb ram & 64 gigs of storage and I plan on rooting it once it arrives.
What is the difference between rooting your phone and installing a custom rom such as cyanogenMod?
What are the benefits to both and the main difference?
Is one easier to do and is less risky or what?
Please explain in a way I can understand, thank you!!
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well.
Rooting mean to gain Super User (SU) to your phone, it mean that you are the master of the device and you can overwrite anything because you are the hierarchy top. ( this is also why device tend to be bricked by noobs because rights(permission) given to change anything.
Top mod of android currently are cyan and MIUI
Cyanogen is a custom rom which build on top of the default Android. it come with root and you can basically manage any part of the phone, it remove many bloatware and just clean and open android OS that look like a default Android.
MIUI is another custom rom, similar as cyanogen but it's appearance look like Iphone and behave similar as Iphone. ( they are the Iphone wannabes) its also clean.
well, don't root because you just want to, root because you need function that require you to. mostly without root, you can do many stuff such as installing unsigned apk. unlike iphone, which must root to install unsigned apps.
sooty84 said:
well.
Rooting mean to gain Super User (SU) to your phone, it mean that you are the master of the device and you can overwrite anything because you are the hierarchy top. ( this is also why device tend to be bricked by noobs because rights(permission) given to change anything.
Top mod of android currently are cyan and MIUI
Cyanogen is a custom rom which build on top of the default Android. it come with root and you can basically manage any part of the phone, it remove many bloatware and just clean and open android OS that look like a default Android.
MIUI is another custom rom, similar as cyanogen but it's appearance look like Iphone and behave similar as Iphone. ( they are the Iphone wannabes) its also clean.
well, don't root because you just want to, root because you need function that require you to. mostly without root, you can do many stuff such as installing unsigned apk. unlike iphone, which must root to install unsigned apps.
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So if I download a custom rom such as Cyanogenmod is it easier to update software? Or do I still have to unroot to update OTA and then reroot?
Baylee Ray said:
So if I download a custom rom such as Cyanogenmod is it easier to update software? Or do I still have to unroot to update OTA and then reroot?
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A custom ROM such as cyanogenmod would replace the Stock firmware, so you would not apply ota updates. Instead, the updates would come from the ROM maker.
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cmendonc2 said:
A custom ROM such as cyanogenmod would replace the Stock firmware, so you would not apply ota updates. Instead, the updates would come from the ROM maker.
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Thank you so much! Makes complete sense!
Simply put
rooting allows you to change system files. CyanogenMod is a bunch of files that need root so they can be applied..
But since CyanogenMod is not out for Zenfone 2. I would not root it yet. Rooting can cause ASUS updates to fail.
Baylee Ray said:
So if I download a custom rom such as Cyanogenmod is it easier to update software? Or do I still have to unroot to update OTA and then reroot?
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when you apply custom rom to your phone ( be it Cyan or MIUI), they become your "phone manufacturer"
why i say that is because they will release the software update to your device instead of Asus for instance if you gotten zenfone 2.
with that said, most of the time, custom rom is better then official rom however, if the custom rom group stopped patching and your phone might still have some bugs.... you are on neck held by these groups. while it is the same for Asus but they are a company which they are being held legal for updating any flaws to your phone till end of life of the product.
there are good and bad, if you want to come into the scene, then make sure you are always up to date with what is and what not.
this make you strong in modding your phone and knowing what is going on too. and also... if you aspire to be a system engineer, this is 1 first step too. handphone is a miniature eco-system of how network works, while you start modding and deal with unix command, that is what system engineer does.
mogrith said:
Simply put
rooting allows you to change system files. CyanogenMod is a bunch of files that need root so they can be applied..
But since CyanogenMod is not out for Zenfone 2. I would not root it yet. Rooting can cause ASUS updates to fail.
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I guess it's not for the faint of heart. But as long as you restore the /system back to stock by flashing pre-root, unrooting, and uninstalling xposed, then you won't go wrong.
mogrith said:
Simply put
rooting allows you to change system files. CyanogenMod is a bunch of files that need root so they can be applied..
But since CyanogenMod is not out for Zenfone 2. I would not root it yet. Rooting can cause ASUS updates to fail.
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Installation of CyanogenMod don't need root, they need unlocked bootloader and recovery that's all.. Root is needed only for editing system files
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Ok. I would be glad if someone could point me in the right direction here, and answer this question.
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on? What´s the best thing to do if I want to remove the bloatware. I might as well say that I´m pretty much a beginner when it comes to all the terms "rooting" and stuff. But I want to do it a safe way, without taking risks of breaking or bricking anything.
Thanks.
Some of the bloatware can be simply uninstalled, some cannot. For the latter you need to root your phone. I like to use SuperOneClick for rooting. Note that some firmwares (the ones whose version ends with .62 or greater) cannot be rooted, so I wouldn't update to them.
Once rooted, removing the bloatware is pretty simple. The most common way is to use Titanium Backup to uninstall it or you can even do it manually by deleting the relevant .apk files from /system/app.
Root your phone ,this is the first step that you must to do. After rooting ,you can remove bloatware from your phone and gain more free space on you internal memory.
I think that the best rooting way is the (zergRush Method):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
After rooting ,download 'Root Explorer' ,go to system/app and remove all the things you don't need.
If you are getting an AT&T Xplay I would suggest installing the generic north American rom which is 2.3.4 and missing the AT&T bloat. I backed up the games from the stock rom first then installed the NA rom and reinstalled them.
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
EDIT: Don't do the below, just read you don't want risk!
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Use flashtool to install a generic ROM .FTF file (.368 has CRT animation but is old, .42 is good, .62 is good)
3. Install a kernel (DooM's is great). This will allow you to overclock, and give automatic ROOT (no need to exploit or install anything else)
4. Buy/acquire an app called "Titanium Backup" (it needs ROOT to run), and check the guide in these forums for which apps are safe to remove
The first thing to do? Here's a list:
1. READ everything you can find related to your model version of the Play. There are different versions depending on where you are in the world and who your service provider is. If you have a GSM capable phone (Europe, Canada, ATT in US just to name a few), you will have a lot more modification options available. If you have a CDMA capable phone (Verizon), you have fewer choices but there are more coming almost every day.
2. READ again - you know you only understood maybe a 10th of what you just read!
3. POST specific questions AFTER you have searched the forums. Don't be afraid to try Google - that's what it's there for.
4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
5. SLOW DOWN !!! - don't be in such a hurry to modify your phone that you leap before you look. Most bricked phones could be avoided in the first place by taking time to understand the steps involved before making changes.
6. DON'T PANIC !!! - There are very few things you can do to your phone that the experienced folks here on the forums can't help you resolved.
7. HAVE FUN !!!
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First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
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Not necessarily. If you install some of the latest updates, you no longer can root. That's why some research needs to be done first.
Search google and read xda forums on a daily basis. That's the shortest route lol
1. Root using zergrush or use flashtool rooting feature
2. Unlock bootloader (this will void your warranty)
3. Install clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 for xperia phones (get it free on play store fka android market)
4. Install titanium backup and perform batch backup of your apps to your sd card
5. Get doomlord's kernel v11 (link is on my signature) and wifi modules
6. Reboot into recovery and hold down or tap volume down to enter CWM recovery
7. Flash the kernel, then reboot and flash the wifi module
8. Flash your custom rom
9. There your phone is bricked! Haha
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4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
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Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
silmes said:
Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
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If you aren't going to get into custom kernels and overclocking, then no, you can do what you want without unlocking the bootloader.
There are some links in General and here in Q & A that make suggestions of what can be removed safely.
If you only rooted and didn't remove anything, you could accept updates. If you remove bloatware, the update won't even install. That's why I suggest installing CWM (ClockWorkMod) Recovery and doing a Nandroid Backup after you root but before you debloat.
Here are some useful links for you:
Rooted (Locked Bootloader) Phone - App Removal (Safe List)
[GUIDE] R800x owners - You got Custom ROM questions? I've got Answers!
The second one there was one I posted up for R800x users with locked bootloaders. It was all the stuff I had to glean for myself when mine was locked.
Hope this helps.
Sigh...hope this isn't too late.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23845116#post23845116
First thing: Root right away with Flashtool (http://androxyde.github.com/) and don't listen to the others, the Flashtool nowdays contains the Exploit that you need and it works perfect to root on 2.3.4 (I did it myself when I root'd mine the first time).
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
I recommend the Titanium Backup as all the others, and you can use this list as help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699&highlight=remove+app+list
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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If you update to the .62 firmware you can't root.
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silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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That's because it differs between models and some people aren't aware of that, while others like to be argumentative!
If you have a Verizon R800x Play, our firmware only goes up to Version 2.3.3 (3.0.1.E.0.88). If yours comes with 2.3.2, you're safe to update. You will be able to root with no problem.
If you have one of the other phones, you can apply updates below 4.0.2.A.0.62 and still root. .62 and higher, no root.
Check out this thread [HOW-TO] Root Phones w/ Android v2.2.x-2.3.x (zergRush Method) for additional information.
Hey all!
First Nexus device ever here, and I'm loving it! I've long been an amateur tinkerer with Android things (I've been through the Droid X, Bionic, Razr, Razr Maxx, and currently rocking the SGS3; Tablet wise I've had the OG Nook Color pimped out with Cyanogenmod, the HP Touchpad with Android, and more recently an Asus TF201 Transformer Prime).
Needless to say, I'm not completely useless with this type of stuff! I am, however, a little curious as to the rooting / unlocking process.
1) It looks like you need to unlock to root this device? Just double checking because that's new to me. (yes, I already know you lose your data if you do)
2) If I unlock / root but don't change the system files other than the custom recovery, can I still flash the OTAs when they come? I am not currently interested in a custom ROM, and I know I won't actually be PROMPTED for the OTAs if I have a custom recovery, but can I simply sideload the official update .zip and install via TWRP? Or is that impossible? I also understand Voodoo would be necessary (or re-rooting if Voodoo doesn't work on the update)
3) If 2 is impossible, what is the procedure to install official updates while rooted / unlocked?
Sorry for all the questions! Any help is appreciated
Yes. Unlock is needed. But it is sooo easy on Nexus: fastboot oem unlock
Now, with OTAs, I would stick with a stock deodex or odex ROM and just update when your dev updates. Trust me, saves a lot of headache.
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swagstr said:
Yes. Unlock is needed. But it is sooo easy on Nexus: fastboot oem unlock
Now, with OTAs, I would stick with a stock deodex or odex ROM and just update when your dev updates. Trust me, saves a lot of headache.
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Thanks for the quick response! See the thing was, I didn't want to have to have to flash a ROM because I like how quickly Nexus devices get updated and I'm worried it'll be delayed by that process.. I'm not even certain I need to root yet anyway haha..My phone is rooted (mostly for hotspot, wireless adb, etc.), but I've yet to come across a compelling reason to root the N7 in the first place. Can anyone offer some examples?
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Thanks for the quick response! See the thing was, I didn't want to have to have to flash a ROM because I like how quickly Nexus devices get updated and I'm worried it'll be delayed by that process.. I'm not even certain I need to root yet anyway haha..My phone is rooted (mostly for hotspot, wireless adb, etc.), but I've yet to come across a compelling reason to root the N7 in the first place. Can anyone offer some examples?
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Titanium backup. Adblockers. Etc. If you don't got a reason to root. Don't
Here's my Nexus 7 rooting notes (I use fedora linux on my system and root from there):
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/hardware/nexus7/hacking.html
you are always safe with nexus
all nexus devices have stock images located on google's site and they are flashable in fastboot so you will never be outdated only these methods you will lose your data my suggestion is with whatever you do in your tinkering is back up everything just to be safe and make data recovery a breeze good luck
albundy2010 said:
Titanium backup. Adblockers. Etc. If you don't got a reason to root. Don't
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I don't use Titanium Backup, and I don't use adblockers on principal (I'm an app developer and make most of my revenue from ad clicks).
At this point, I'm thinking I'm just not going to go through the trouble if I can't think of a specific reason to. Thanks everyone.
There is plenty of ways to root and unlock with AIO's out there but there is no point of really doing it at this moment as there is not that much development for N7-2
I would suggest you do the unlock, even if you don't plan on using custom recovery or rooting at this time.
Otherwise if you find something where you need root or custom recovery for in the future, you'll end up wiping your data then, after everything is set up and you've installed your apps.
Unlocking won't affect your ability to receive OTAs and neither will installing root.
Custom recovery can affect your ability to receive OTAs, but you actually don't need to install custom recovery to root. You can just temporarily boot into twrp or cwm (ie don't write the custom recovery onto your phone) and run the update.zip for SuperSU. Use fastboot boot twrp.img to do a one-time boot into custom recovery.
This may come off as a silly question but, I"m aware that AT&T and Verizon versions of the Note 4 there is no way to root it permanently but, even if you can temporary root it, is it still possible to install a custom rom? I'm in the process of downgrading from lollipop right now (I hate the new notifications) but just figure I'd ask.
Locked boot loader, no custom ROMs
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Thanks! guess that means i'll stick with kit kat and nova launcher for now.
MO3iusONE said:
This may come off as a silly question but, I"m aware that AT&T and Verizon versions of the Note 4 there is no way to root it permanently but, even if you can temporary root it, is it still possible to install a custom rom? I'm in the process of downgrading from lollipop right now (I hate the new notifications) but just figure I'd ask.
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without permanent root, no there is no way to flash a custom rom, if we get permanent then we can use flashfire or multisystem to flash custom roms (touchwiz only no CM or AOSP variants)
Eliminating ATT bloatware & S-bloatware
cstayton said:
without permanent root, no there is no way to flash a custom rom, if we get permanent then we can use flashfire or multisystem to flash custom roms (touchwiz only no CM or AOSP variants)
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I have been wondering if it may be possible to eliminate all the bloatware from ATT and all bloatware from Samsung, by way of using the Kingroot process > then install Ti-Backup > then DELETE not freeze those applications.
Will such a thing work ? even if one may loose root after rebooting?
I there a possibility that that attempting something like that may cause a major crash on my phone?
In other words, I would like to be able to rid myself from all that bloatware that came with my out of the box N910-A i know about the disable feature on the apps manager, but i want those apps OUT.
Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
And I am STILL hoping for PERMA-root sometime in the near future
IC-USER1 said:
I have been wondering if it may be possible to eliminate all the bloatware from ATT and all bloatware from Samsung, by way of using the Kingroot process > then install Ti-Backup > then DELETE not freeze those applications.
Will such a thing work ? even if one may loose root after rebooting?
I there a possibility that that attempting something like that may cause a major crash on my phone?
In other words, I would like to be able to rid myself from all that bloatware that came with my out of the box N910-A i know about the disable feature on the apps manager, but i want those apps OUT.
Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
And I am STILL hoping for PERMA-root sometime in the near future
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unfortunately no that wont work, if you delete or modify the system partition IN ANY WAY it will cause the DM_VERITY to kick in. until we get past the OS Verification and write protection we cant delete or modify anything.
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Locked boot loader, no custom ROMs
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many devices with locked bootloaders have custom roms, The S5 for instance. it's not the locked bootloader that is preventing custom roms it is the need for permanent root, once we have that we can use flashfire or multirom to flash custom touchwiz roms. what the locked bootloader prevents is the ability to flash custom kernels thus preventing roms based off of CM or AOSP/AOKP
Thank you for your Very fast and friendly reply. Have yourself a good day.
Will it be good to root my Nexus 7 and what will be the precautions that should be taken after rooting it ,as I have heard about accidentally update can u make it clear for me.
And I also want to know that will I lose Android updates after rooting or custom ROM as Android update is the best part of Nexus.
I also want to know should I root my Nexus 7 (2013) or custom ROM it first.
Please give a brief sketch about custom ROM and rooting .which is safe ,easier,and how to root and custom ROM Nexus 7 and what are the precautions to be taken while doing this.
I would be very thankful for u...
Before you root I recommend you back up your data. Then unlock the bootloader. This will wipe all your data. Root has pros and cons. For starters, if you are on 5.0+ it's updates will fail to install. There are many to it techniques, but the easiest for me was to use the nexus root toolkit by wugfresh. Custom operating systems usually have more features, but usually more bugs as well. I own two nexus 7s. One is running 5.1.1 with the latest version of Xposed, the other has the custom ROM called VRToxin which is far more buggy but at the same time far more feature filled. If you install one, ALWAYS follow the instructions to a tee. Lastly, what I love most about root is the apps. Adaway removes ads from all apps. Titanium backup a lows me to backup all apps and there data. Root is usually safe, just be careful.
Toxicsleet said:
Will it be good to root my Nexus 7 and what will be the precautions that should be taken after rooting it ,as I have heard about accidentally update can u make it clear for me.
And I also want to know that will I lose Android updates after rooting or custom ROM as Android update is the best part of Nexus.
I also want to know should I root my Nexus 7 (2013) or custom ROM it first.
Please give a brief sketch about custom ROM and rooting .which is safe ,easier,and how to root and custom ROM Nexus 7 and what are the precautions to be taken while doing this.
I would be very thankful for u...
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You should root if you want more features, want to customize more. But you should be ready to invest time and read through forum posts to learn more. You should not root if you are happy with what you have got and is not ready to take some risks. Of course it is not risky it you do your homework before doing anything and follow instructions clearly. Yes, you will lose OTA updates. But it doesn't matter. You can always flash the latest stock ROM if you want, which will be available right here in XDA.
If you want to root, first thing you should do is to unlock the bootloader. You can use any of the toolkits available to do that. Then only you can root. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. (I don't remember if the internal storage is wiped, look it up) But after this first instance of data loss, then it's more easy. You can do backups and clean install, or dirty flash. You should install a custom bootloader (like TWRP). I use the multirom TWRP. Multirom is interesting which will allow you to install more than one ROM at once and dual boot easily. You can look up about it. You can then install any ROM you want.
Now sticking with the stock ROM or going for a custom one is your preference. Custom ROMs have many features baked right in. Some custom Roms (like cyanogenmod) even has OTA updates. Personally I like to use stockish ROM and use xposed to get the features I want. Xposed is another super tool which you should look at.
Now talking about precautions, always do a backup before doing anything. This is the no. 1 and the most important one. Personally, I have never done any backing up till now. But I am just careless and have been very lucky. Also, Google is getting better at doing app backups automatically. And most of my data is uploaded to the cloud anyway. As far as I know, it is impossible to hard brick Nexus 7. That means you can always rectify any problems that arise by giving your time. Unless you do something which damages the hardware.
Your friend is this forum. Read through posts and learn things. But be prepared to lose a lot of your time. You are warned!!
Hi I am convinced that I want to root my Nexus 7 2013 LTE & remain on stock MMB29V. I have tried using NRT to root however always ended in bootloop & have to reflash stock under softbrick condition. Please point me to a tutorial that works thanks
iluvatrix said:
Hi I am convinced that I want to root my Nexus 7 2013 LTE & remain on stock MMB29V. I have tried using NRT to root however always ended in bootloop & have to reflash stock under softbrick condition. Please point me to a tutorial that works thanks
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Read the FAQ linked in the OP of the NRT thread...
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Unlocking and rooting is easy. In order for obtaining root to be beneficial, you have to know how it works. Somewhere between trial-and-error and reading is where knowledge is gained, and knowledge trumps everything in the world of software modification. I never bothered asking any questions, but spent thousands of hours trying and reading for myself.
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You should root if you want more features, want to customize more. But you should be ready to invest time and read through forum posts to learn more. You should not root if you are happy with what you have got and is not ready to take some risks. Of course it is not risky it you do your homework before doing anything and follow instructions clearly. Yes, you will lose OTA updates. But it doesn't matter. You can always flash the latest stock ROM if you want, which will be available right here in XDA.
If you want to root, first thing you should do is to unlock the bootloader. You can use any of the toolkits available to do that. Then only you can root. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. (I don't remember if the internal storage is wiped, look it up) But after this first instance of data loss, then it's more easy. You can do backups and clean install, or dirty flash. You should install a custom bootloader (like TWRP). I use the multirom TWRP. Multirom is interesting which will allow you to install more than one ROM at once and dual boot easily. You can look up about it. You can then install any ROM you want.
Now sticking with the stock ROM or going for a custom one is your preference. Custom ROMs have many features baked right in. Some custom Roms (like cyanogenmod) even has OTA updates. Personally I like to use stockish ROM and use xposed to get the features I want. Xposed is another super tool which you should look at.
Now talking about precautions, always do a backup before doing anything. This is the no. 1 and the most important one. Personally, I have never done any backing up till now. But I am just careless and have been very lucky. Also, Google is getting better at doing app backups automatically. And most of my data is uploaded to the cloud anyway. As far as I know, it is impossible to hard brick Nexus 7. That means you can always rectify any problems that arise by giving your time. Unless you do something which damages the hardware.
Your friend is this forum. Read through posts and learn things. But be prepared to lose a lot of your time. You are warned!!
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Hey tank u alot for ur answer . It has helped me alot and made me clear but can u tell me more briefly about about coistom boot loader TWRP and multirom is kind of coustom ROM or what?? And which are the OTA updates receiving roms ??? After rooting if I hav a coustom ROM ,should I need to install OTA updates external??? And installing OTA updates externaly is wat called flash ???is it a too lenghty procss .
But bro tumbs up to your answer ....thank you alottt.....?????????
Hello
I have a Lenovo P2a42 UK version on 3 mobile.
I haven't rooted a phone before and would like to know how to root my phone.
Firstly, should I root to stock android first and then consider other ROMs?
Secondly, should I root from the UK version (SO56) to the ROW version (S232)?
Finally, what is the best way of rooting to LineageOS in a secure way? What is the best site to download the necessary files?
Sorry for all the questions but any help would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Firstly, should I root to stock android first and then consider other ROMs?
A. My opinion move to custom rom unless you need led notification light.
Finally, what is the best way of rooting to LineageOS in a secure way? What is the best site to download the necessary files?
A. see the comment 1,2,3,4 on any custom rom thread or simply download aad on su from :- https://download.lineageos.org/extras
and flash it using twrp (remember change data to ext4 otherwise root may not work)
Secondly, should I root from the UK version (SO56) to the ROW version (S232)?
A. i didnt understand what is rooting s056uk to s232
Hit thanks if i've helped
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Entirely up to you, but I'd upgrade to the newer stock ROM for now rather than using a custom ROM. You will lose VOLTE support and some other features, like the battery saving switch / LED notifications.
If you do plan on rooting, use the guide in the TWRP post here on the Lenovo P2 forums. However, it'd be wise to read up on what you can actually do with root. Myself, I rooted in order to install a custom boot animation (tricky and not the standard method on Lenovo stock ROM), change fonts (a little frivolous considering you're losing warranty for it), and mainly to add a hosts file for system wide ad blocking. You can use magisk to root (there's a forum dedicated to it) but I have had quite a few problems with it.
Also, if you root, you lose access to some apps such as android pay, and lose access to features in certain apps (banking apps for example). Magisk claims to work around these problems, but it's tricky to install and upgrade and doesn't always work. I almost got stuck in a bootloop using the default uninstaller, and had to modify the installer by hand in order to get newer versions to install. On top of that, the magisk module system doesn't seem to work, at least on my device.
Whatever happens, let us know what you choose to do and how you get on.