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[Q] Is this a viable phone for me?

Hi!
I previously had a Note 4 for a day or two after release, coming from at that time, an iPhone. I subsequently returned the note, kept the iPhone, and recently upgraded to the 6+. Now with ATT's mobile share, I'm looking at adding a second line for how cheap it is. I'd like for that second line to be an android device, to get the best of both worlds. As a result of being out of the mix when it comes to android, or more like never having been in it, I have a couple questions.
I distinctly remember how much junk was on my ATT Note 4. Junk apps from Samsung, junk from ATT- and worst of all, I couldn't do anything about it (no root?). Has that changed? Is there a way to remove these apps, fix touch wiz annoyances, etc? I'd think that would require root, but like I mentioned, I don't know the details of note4 root status, or even rooting in general.
I currently have a Nexus 6 and Oneplus One on order (good prices on both of them), but personally like the Note4 the best- can I change it to make it perfect? Or is it still locked down and junked up?
Thanks for your help!

Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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I just bought my note 4 two weeks ago. If I could go back in time I would have bought the nexus 6. This phone lags too much for my liking. It is actually slower than my g2 was at opening apps. I thought I would like this phone but at this point regret my choice.

Gods Son said:
Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!

citius117 said:
So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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OK heres what you do if they won't let you buy it straight up. Buy the t mobile version on the payment plan because like that there's no contact or ETF. Go home and make a call for 5 min on T mobile sim, then submit the imei to cell unlocker net. Then in a few days call and cancel the service with Tmobile and pay the remainder of the phone off, which by the way is $100 cheaper then the AT&T version. After receiving the unlock code from cell unlocker stick the AT&T sim in and when it boots it will ask for the unlock code, put it in and your good to go.
I have both versions of the note 4 and the t mobile version works perfect on the AT&T network except you have root, custom roms and kernels. All the rom developers in the note 4 t mobile forum full support the AT&T network in there roms straight out the box.
You might want to wait 3 months for the note 5 because this phone is already dated and is a big investment.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help Sand, that is a great explanation. The tmobile device is clearly better then- no loss of service quality or anything, but still having the root, roms, etc. I think regardless of the imminent release of the note 5, I might still get the four for now, or just keep that incoming OPO One- waiting 3 months for the note 5, plus however much more time for rooting dev is a bit long for me. Regardless, I appreciate your information!

Pre-Recall Verizon Note 7

I have the opportunity to get a brand new pre-recall (before the first recall) Verizon Note 7 for $600. I already have a Verizon Note 7 with the PHE firmware that can't be rooted so at the very least at this new phone can be rooted. I was hoping to get one of the international versions of the Note 7 for the ROM support but it seems less and less likely these days. (Feel free to message me if you have any info on how to get one)
Anyone have any opinions on if I should or shouldn't buy it? I'm kind of torn right now so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don't get one until we know for sure they won't be IMEI blocked. Also, even with root unless you can make your own Roms, they will be extremely limited.

Can the AT&T Note 4 be Upgraded to Android 8.0?

Hey, I'm pretty new to modding phones and have been searching around for a way to get my phone (SM-N910A) to be able to run android 8.0 or higher but haven't found anything. Is it just not possible at this time without swapping out parts of the phone or is there a way I have overlooked?

XDApplePie -- The ATT N4 Model SM-N910A cannot be rooted. That was what two genuine experts told me, but they didn't explain why. If so, I think a custom rom can't be installed.
I too want to flash a custom rom to my ATT Note 4. There are many N4 custom ROMs but I can't find any that support the ATT N4. I noticed that ALL the supported N4s have the Exynos chip but NO SnapDragon N4s are supported. The ATT N4 has the Qualcomm SnapDragon chip. My guess is that for some reason the SnapDragon chipset might the obstacle.

TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)

boofman said:
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
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I just got off my Note 7 after futilely *****ing out AT&T for deceiving its customers. AT&T does say its phones are locked ... but when you ask a Customer Service Rep if the phone can be 'unlocked' after the contract is expired & phone paid off in full, they say 'yes'. But I just learned that ATT means 'carrier unlocked' only! But the bootloader remains locked forever.
ATT never tells customers that BOTH the carrier and bootloader is locked!
I have two classic Notes -- 4 & 7 -- trapped in stock ATT Android 6 -- and just learned I can't custom rom them to Andy 9. Heartbreaking for a Note FANatic.
So, I am looking at an unlocked Note 10 bought directly from Samsung. But ha, ha, ATT's worthwhile features like its custom dailer, sync calls between Note & Galaxy Watch, Spam Call Block, & etc won't work on a non-ATT unlocked Note 10. The greedy corporate assholes.
My daily driver ATT N7 is cooked. Its ATT Andy 6 is forever frozen. Its 3.5 yr old STOCK battery is failing. OEM replacement battery is a hopeless hope. A battery mod is extreme. I am heartbroken. I have to get a N10 ... and probably an ATT variant for the sake of my ATT Galaxy Watch.
Oh boy, I let ATT trap me like a sheep to be sheared.
Hah, Corporate Big Brother at its worst. Locked bootloader even though you pay for the phone

Simple Frustrated Noob Question for SM-G960U on AT&T v. 10 Andoid

I've had a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Unlocked for a few years now, I can't remember what I did to it, for some reason I remember doing nothing, because occasionally I still do updates, but my Wifi Hotspot feature is functional.
I bought a new Samsung Galaxy S9, SM-G960U in the hopes that I could have a functional working phone, on the AT&T network which is the only carrier that seems to work out in the country where I am. And WiFi hotspot to be able to use it with my home computer without paying AT&T any more for their BS hotspot feature enablement. I am grandfathered on an unlimited data plan from Cingular Wireless era.
Basically, I just want the phone to work, nothing special, all features and functions, but I want to be able to use the mobile hotspot.
I powered on the phone, put in my SIM, says the software is current, Mobile Hotspot is greyed out and wants me to pay......I remember being down this road before....
I've spent the last 4 hours scrolling posts, trying workarounds, fixes, etc, to no avail.
Do I need to ?
A. Follow the root instructions, and muddle my way through them, hopefully not bricking this new phone and returning it in order to root it, and that will give me what I want?
B. Follow the root instructions, install some new OS, but lose features (80% battery max....no front camera... no future updates...), but get wifi hotspot?
C. Give up on this phone completely, return it, and buy something different that gives me the features and functionality I want without the hassle? (I'm not married to samsung phones, they've just been good for 4+ years each, good battery life and longevity, etc)? (btw I just tried, and returned a Motorola Z3 Play for the same reasons...it looked even harder in the forums than this)?

Is it possible to install a more "stock" rom

HI all,
I'm not sure if this is possible or not, but I recently got a really good deal on a Refurbished Note 10+ 5G from Back Market. The phone I actually ordered was a Unlocked AT&T model, I received a Unlocked Verizon model (SM-976V), which doesn't really bother me. However, with the Verizon model, I am not able to go in and tweak my APN settings (on the Verizon model these settings are greyed out with no way to unlock them, at least none that I've found), so I'm wondering if it is possible to flash a more stock rom that doesn't include all the b.s. Verizon bloatware. Not sure if it matters any, but I use Visible Wireless as my phone carrier.
Thanks in advance to any insight anyone has,
Yall have a great day,
TheDudestPriest504

Let android Power Manage the unused apps to deep sleep ~ and use the verizon stock ROM because of the too many security on it. If you mess with it you risk some things. Other than that you can try revert Bin7 ROM to earlier date and do some debug things as well as some SamFw Tool things. Those should work without touching the bootloader.