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Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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RPK925 said:
Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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i'll try not to rant too hard but Kies and OTA firmware updates are a joke. you are essentially dirty flashing one rom over another with no real clearing of caches, no resetting, no way for all the programs to regroup, rebuild and run on the system hardware/software properly. the thing about dirty flashing is, it sticks well with some devices but generally not with many others. you'll see these types of issues many times among the avid flashers and those that must have the latest release of a developers rom.
i would recommend backing everything up, booting into stock recovery, wiping data/factory reset and wiping cache. if you decide to perform another update via kies in the future, i would do this procedure before AND after the update.
yes, you have to start over when you perform these sorts of actions but you have to ask yourself, are you happy with how your device is performing now (before the update)? is it worth starting over? (it might be if you're going to run on the updated OS for a year or so) and how well do you want it to perform after you install the update?
cheers
EDIT: i just assume everyone accesses recovery and download mode so i didnt post the button combo. recovery is: Volume Up + Home + Power. release just the power button when you get a vibrate.
RPK925 said:
Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory.
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This is normal for a 16GB SGS3. 16GB is advertised but actual formatted available space is less. 11.95GB is right on par. This is the case for just about all devices that have memory that is writable, including hard drives on a computer.
RPK925 said:
I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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Any particular reason why you are using Apps2sd? $10 to $20 will land you an external memory card with huge amounts of space (32GB at least). This is plenty to store music, photos, and other misc. files. And even with a ton of apps installed to internal, you still should have ample space left over. There is just no good reason to use Apps2sd on this phone as it has so much internal memory. If this is just to keep you from losing data, then I would suggest rooting and using an app such as Titanium Backup as it makes it super easy to restore apps and the corresponding data after anything that requires a factory reset.
simonMac777 said:
Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
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Actually i did.
After the update, without factory reset, everything was (almost) fine… except a strange malfunction of the Gps (lock signal lost after a while) and sporadic reboot without reason. For the Gps I’ve found here the solution (NV Rebuild), but for the reboot… I wasn’t sure about it. So I decided for a factory reset. After that my ext card, with the ICS paths, was not recognized. So bucked up everything, format the ext card and let Kies sync my files and create all the folders needed from JB: Camera Photo Video for pictures, and media for the music. Now I’m let’s say 90% ready to go… I’m curios to test especially the Gps.
Hi there
I have a serious problem with my S4 Mini Duos GT-I9192. The problem is that the free internal memory space is wrong. At the moment it's showing about 1GB free space, but I confirmed my installed apps and it's impossible I have 5GB of installed apps. In fact I have about 2.5GB of installed apps, then I shoud have about 3GB of free space.
I made a test, plugged the device in the computer and it shows I really have 1GB free in internal memory, after that I selected all folders into it and get properties, and it shows 2.4GB size. (you can see in attached images)
My question: If the internal memory has 5.39GB and my all files has 2.4GB used space, I should have 2.99GB free space, not just 1GB free!!! Where is this lost space??? I need it, because I want install apps and games, and at now I cant!!
My andriod version is 4.4.2 kitkat (not rooted), manually updated from sammobile, but the problem was the same before update. The original version was 4.2 Jelly Bean.
Best regards for all.
You should look for hidden folders with a dot before the name. I think you probably got a big .thumbnails folder. That's a common problem, try searching on google for solutions.
marchrius said:
You should look for hidden folders with a dot before the name. I think you probably got a big .thumbnails folder. That's a common problem, try searching on google for solutions.
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Hi guy, that's not the problem. I selected all folders, included with dot before name, hidden folders... Also had googled, but no answer...
renatotozzi said:
Hi guy, that's not the problem. I selected all folders, included with dot before name, hidden folders... Also had googled, but no answer...
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Did u play heavy games in the past? If you uninstall those games, occasionally their cache/data remain on your device. Go to internal sdcard > Android > Obb and look for any folders that correspond to the apps u used previously. Delete them and see if that solves your problem. I had this problem once in the past when I uninstalled gta3, the com.rockstargames.XXXX folder remained in the obb folder. I had to manually delete that to free up space.
If that does not work, backup everything u got on your internal sd card onto microsd card/usb drive and wipe internal storage via TWRP recovery.
Try what I suggested. hopefully it works. good luck.
Do what he said. you can wipe internal storage from your pc too
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Did u play heavy games in the past? If you uninstall those games, occasionally their cache/data remain on your device. Go to internal sdcard > Android > Obb and look for any folders that correspond to the apps u used previously. Delete them and see if that solves your problem. I had this problem once in the past when I uninstalled gta3, the com.rockstargames.XXXX folder remained in the obb folder. I had to manually delete that to free up space.
If that does not work, backup everything u got on your internal sd card onto microsd card/usb drive and wipe internal storage via TWRP recovery.
Try what I suggested. hopefully it works. good luck.
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Nope, I don't have old data/obb games in device. As you can see in attached screen capture, I selected all existing folders in my device and get properties, it shows I have 2.5 GB used, the refered space is really lost, maybe in some partition which windows does not recognize...
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Do what he said. you can wipe internal storage from your pc too
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But wipe what? wipe not used files? I can't do this because all files used, I don't have unused files there. Or this wipe process is something which can find the lost space in device?
renatotozzi said:
But wipe what? wipe not used files? I can't do this because all files used, I don't have unused files there. Or this wipe process is something which can find the lost space in device?
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No what we meant is : You first copy everything from your internal storage to external sd card or usb drive. Then go to TWRP recovery and choose wipe>Advanced Wipe and select internal storage. Then swipe and your internal storage will be cleaned up off everything. Now you can transfer the backup files from that usb drive or ext sd card back to internal storage.Do not format internal storage via windows pc.
Do that only with TWRP recovery. Good luck.
Have you considered that the internal memory is shared?
Infact the internal sdcard is the folder /data/media.
The S4 mini has the /data partition of 5.4 GB.
So if you have 1 Gb free and 2.4 occupied into internal sdcard (/data/media), maybe you have 2 GB occupied into /data? In particular into /data/app e app-asec? (these folders contain the apks of app installed from play store).
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No what we meant is : You first copy everything from your internal storage to external sd card or usb drive. Then go to TWRP recovery and choose wipe>Advanced Wipe and select internal storage. Then swipe and your internal storage will be cleaned up off everything. Now you can transfer the backup files from that usb drive or ext sd card back to internal storage.Do not format internal storage via windows pc.
Do that only with TWRP recovery. Good luck.
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Ok guy, I understood your tip. I'll try to do that. Just another question: Doing this process I will lose all my personal settings, installed apps, accounts? Or all will be as before after do that?
renatotozzi said:
Ok guy, I understood your tip. I'll try to do that. Just another question: Doing this process I will lose all my personal settings, installed apps, accounts? Or all will be as before after do that?
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Sorry for late reply. You wont lose installed apps but you will lose those photos, videos and any downloads or documents you have on internal storage. That's the reason I said backup/Copy everything on your internal storage to usb drive/external sd card and then format. Later you can move them back to internal storage and reboot.
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Sorry for late reply. You wont lose installed apps but you will lose those photos, videos and any downloads or documents you have on internal storage. That's the reason I said backup/Copy everything on your internal storage to usb drive/external sd card and then format. Later you can move them back to internal storage and reboot.
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Ok, guy, thanks for tip, I'll try this
I've got this problem today. Only 800 MB free in internal SD, but when selected all files/folders they only had 1,2 GB!! Where the hell was the remaining GB?
I've entered the recovery and found a backup in the internal SD. Deleted it and recovered the free space!
2 days ago, I've made a backup to the external SD (waiting for the M10 release!), and it really is there, but I don't know how, the backup was made to the internal SD too!
See if you don't have any backup in the internal SD, but you have to go by the recovery.
please help i cant install apps any more because it says "insufficient storage available"
i used apps 2 rom which transfers data to rom and after a month i deleted some apps and i free up my internal storage up to 2.2 gb
and after that i removed my apps from rom and they took a little space to my internal storage, still i have 2.1 gb free but it cannot download apps
My rom free: 316.6 mb
My internal storage free: 2.1 gb
But still cannot download an app
I have it Rooted. i know advanced in android
i dont have a memory card
cedie said:
please help i cant install apps any more because it says "insufficient storage available"
i used apps 2 rom which transfers data to rom and after a month i deleted some apps and i free up my internal storage up to 2.2 gb
and after that i removed my apps from rom and they took a little space to my internal storage, still i have 2.1 gb free but it cannot download apps
My rom free: 316.6 mb
My internal storage free: 2.1 gb
But still cannot download an app
I have it Rooted. i know advanced in android
i dont have a memory card
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Some apps look for percentage available instead of MB available or some nonsense.
Could also be that it needs to install some secured data, and that's going into a place you don't have enough space.
Also, if you had an app installed on external memory at some point, and you try to reinstall it, you'll get that error. Check your Application Manager for any apps that have the memory card icon on them. Those can cause problems.
Personally, I use Link2SD Plus, which requires an SD card. This allows you to move whole applications to a second partition of the SD card. Works well with the tab 3, and leaves me with lots of free space.
I'm assuming when you say ROM space free, you mean System partition space free? I only have about 9MB free on mine and it causes no problems.
Have had this issue on my phone before because the ROM itself locked the device as read-only, causing any app to give that error, and had to flash it again.
I had a bunch of unknown junk cluttering my user/data partition (they're the same physical area on the device), and had to wipe the "internal storage" and "data" from a custom recovery after backing up my data I cared about.
Hopefully this is informative, and hopefully someone else can be more helpful
Good luck to you
Greaper88 said:
Some apps look for percentage available instead of MB available or some nonsense.
Could also be that it needs to install some secured data, and that's going into a place you don't have enough space.
Also, if you had an app installed on external memory at some point, and you try to reinstall it, you'll get that error. Check your Application Manager for any apps that have the memory card icon on them. Those can cause problems.
Personally, I use Link2SD Plus, which requires an SD card. This allows you to move whole applications to a second partition of the SD card. Works well with the tab 3, and leaves me with lots of free space.
I'm assuming when you say ROM space free, you mean System partition space free? I only have about 9MB free on mine and it causes no problems.
Have had this issue on my phone before because the ROM itself locked the device as read-only, causing any app to give that error, and had to flash it again.
I had a bunch of unknown junk cluttering my user/data partition (they're the same physical area on the device), and had to wipe the "internal storage" and "data" from a custom recovery after backing up my data I cared about.
Hopefully this is informative, and hopefully someone else can be more helpful
Good luck to you
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i dont know what it says but i think it means read-only memory, and my tablet has no recovery mode it only shows "downloading mode"
I don't know if this is a permanent solution but I noticed that I had no "OBB" file in "Android " on my "extsdcard". I created said file and moved all files from "OBB", "sdcard0" to new OBB file. I then started a program who's file I moved to new OBB and immediately closed. Then went back to original OBB to delete newly created file (double) for that app. Now all my apps download straight to extsdcard in the new OBB file. I can also move apps to SD card from app manager .
Let me know if it worked for you.
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cedie said:
i dont know what it says but i think it means read-only memory, and my tablet has no recovery mode it only shows "downloading mode"
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Did you press Volume up+power+home button?
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Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
This is strictly a personal opinion but you should lose Clean Master and anything else made by Cheetah Mobile.
As for your storage issues... You state you've rooted. Have you done a backup? If so, are you sure your recovery is saving backups to the external storage?
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Ibrahim elhossiny said:
Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
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Had the same issue. The firmware is in it's own partition with room for updates but some of those files fill up your internal storage as well, they did for me when I updated so the solutions are either use a root file explorer or Titanium Backup app to move some user apps to system apps , use the forum here in XDA for altering your SElinux permissions and enable write permissions to your system partition(WP.MOD_KO) so that you can use Link2SD app to move your user apps to your external SD card or pay to obtain full S off using the Sunshine app and have those permissions plus more enabled at the system level so that you can also use Link2SD app to move user apps to the external SD card.
The last 2 methods are the most used and also require you to reformat your external SD card into 2 partitions using EaseUS PARTITION MANAGER on a P.C. Instructions for doing this are easy and available on Youtube and Google if you want to read them instead. These are really the only ways to help your storage issue other than just not using very many apps. I chose the full S off method and Link2SD but the other works it just alters your SElinux permissions and has to be removed to do stock updates whereas S off doesn't affect stock updates. Only system file changes do like the mod I described.
I also echo the previous posters thoughts on Cleanmaster and most all "task killing" apps. Android has built in RAM management that does a good job on its own of managing memory and there is the on screen square button on the right that shows you open apps and tabs and allows you to quickly close them all out. You'd be better off regulating Wavelocks using Amplify app and Greenify to freeze apps from staying on . Root required and there are paid version but the basics are free in both apps.
I had a brain f**t and misread that you've uninstalled "all" of your apps so the previous poster might be onto something if you've done any TWRP nandroid backups to internal instead of micro storage. They can take up to 2 to 4 gbs just on their own even with compression enabled. If you haven't and even if you have my previous info and advice is still accurate for improved storage space.
On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
TobiBot said:
On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
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Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
Some Facts About Thumbnails
thoctor said:
Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
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Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
TobiBot said:
Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
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Your English is perfectly fine. Better even than some to whom English is their "first" language. Thanks for that breakdown and I bet that's what it is. I forgot about the apps storing their stock images in your phone. I used to love using the app called Pocket until I found that it stores all the saved links and images directly on your phone. I saved almost a full gb by deleting it finally. Great app other than that and if I had a device with more storage I'd still have it on my phone instead of just my computer. This is all why it pays to be curious about your own phone storage and learn how to navigate a good root file explorer.
Since a couple of days I am not able to update my apps anymore. Error message is that there is not enough space left in the internal memory.
The concerning phone is the HTC M8s (TMO-NL), 16 gb, SuperSU, stock recovery, Lollipop 5.0.2, SW 1.10.114.11)
Is there a way I can transfer apps to the SD card? (symlink?) All the big fish (like the facebook app, 400!!! MB, whatsapp etc) are not able to be moved to the SD card, which to put it politely, annoys me deeply. My previous phone I have used for 2,5 years (HTC One X 64 gb) and have never had this issue with a flooded system partition.
Thanks in advance for your ideas!
why not update to 6.0.1 so you cand format the sd as internal ?
Thijs_Rallye said:
Cannot update apps, /system probably full?
My previous phone I have used for 2,5 years (HTC One X 64 gb) and have never had this issue with a flooded system partition.
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You're getting your facts wrong. Apps downloaded from the Play Store and other places are not saved to the system partition. System partition is the OS, and the only system apps are the ones that can included with the OS, such as built-in Google apps or "bloatware". The exception if you specifically installed apps as system apps under root privileges, but this is not the typical situation (you'd know if you did it).
Apps are saved in the data partition, and AFAIK, there is no limit, beyond the size of the internal storage. On a 32 GB M8, you have around 25 GB of storage.
It may just be that you need to delete or move to SD some files that are not necessary.
marius88cc said:
why not update to 6.0.1 so you cand format the sd as internal ?
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I really don't feel much for going through whole the installation process* again. I am glad I finally got Adblock plus working and to be honest I only want the d*mn thing to function normally.
(* Run a RUU since TWRP messed up my OS software version, having to re-root again etc etc.)
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You're getting your facts wrong. Apps downloaded from the Play Store and other places are not saved to the system partition. System partition is the OS, and the only system apps are the ones that can included with the OS, such as built-in Google apps or "bloatware". The exception if you specifically installed apps as system apps under root privileges, but this is not the typical situation (you'd know if you did it).
Apps are saved in the data partition, and AFAIK, there is no limit, beyond the size of the internal storage. On a 32 GB M8, you have around 25 GB of storage.
It may just be that you need to delete or move to SD some files that are not necessary.
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Yes, you are right, I meant the data partition indeed. I will change the OP. Anyway, the data partition is almost full and I've moved everything I can move to the SD already.
So is there a way I can increase the data storage, since most apps tend to store their information in that partition? I would like to sacrifice the emulated Sdcard0 space to increase the /userdata space.
I've attached a screenshot of "df " as additional information.
And yes, I know the Sdcard0 is already almost full, but for that Whatsapp is to blame with their ridiculous impossibility to relocate the media folder, for which I am wondering if I could make a symlink to my actual SD card.
All in all I am rather disappointed in the M8s, if I had know beforehand it would be a struggle for just loading app updates I would've bought the old M8 .
Edit: I've already deleted all the factory delivered bloatware from T-mobile, as far as the google apps (games/books/music/etc.) I am still working up the courage to remove those, because I don't know if it will render my phone with all kinds of bugs.
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I am wondering if I could make a symlink to my actual SD card.
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You should investigate whether there is an MM update for the M8s, and if it supports adoptable storage (its supported on the M8). Adoptable storage would allow you to use your SD card as part of internal storage, and greatly increases your data storage capacity. It sounds like exactly what you need.
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Edit: I've already deleted all the factory delivered bloatware from T-mobile, as far as the google apps (games/books/music/etc.) I am still working up the courage to remove those, because I don't know if it will render my phone with all kinds of bugs.
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Again, you seem to be confused about the system partition vs. data partition. Deleting pre-installed apps isn't going to help you, as it only frees up space on the system partition.