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[Q] Internal storage

Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance

Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage

Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.

Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.

Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw

Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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Lloir said:
it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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Internal memory folders changed after J.B Kies update?

Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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RPK925 said:
Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?

hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.

hednik said:
That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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i'll try not to rant too hard but Kies and OTA firmware updates are a joke. you are essentially dirty flashing one rom over another with no real clearing of caches, no resetting, no way for all the programs to regroup, rebuild and run on the system hardware/software properly. the thing about dirty flashing is, it sticks well with some devices but generally not with many others. you'll see these types of issues many times among the avid flashers and those that must have the latest release of a developers rom.
i would recommend backing everything up, booting into stock recovery, wiping data/factory reset and wiping cache. if you decide to perform another update via kies in the future, i would do this procedure before AND after the update.
yes, you have to start over when you perform these sorts of actions but you have to ask yourself, are you happy with how your device is performing now (before the update)? is it worth starting over? (it might be if you're going to run on the updated OS for a year or so) and how well do you want it to perform after you install the update?
cheers
EDIT: i just assume everyone accesses recovery and download mode so i didnt post the button combo. recovery is: Volume Up + Home + Power. release just the power button when you get a vibrate.

RPK925 said:
Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory.
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This is normal for a 16GB SGS3. 16GB is advertised but actual formatted available space is less. 11.95GB is right on par. This is the case for just about all devices that have memory that is writable, including hard drives on a computer.
RPK925 said:
I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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Any particular reason why you are using Apps2sd? $10 to $20 will land you an external memory card with huge amounts of space (32GB at least). This is plenty to store music, photos, and other misc. files. And even with a ton of apps installed to internal, you still should have ample space left over. There is just no good reason to use Apps2sd on this phone as it has so much internal memory. If this is just to keep you from losing data, then I would suggest rooting and using an app such as Titanium Backup as it makes it super easy to restore apps and the corresponding data after anything that requires a factory reset.
simonMac777 said:
Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.

As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
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Actually i did.
After the update, without factory reset, everything was (almost) fine… except a strange malfunction of the Gps (lock signal lost after a while) and sporadic reboot without reason. For the Gps I’ve found here the solution (NV Rebuild), but for the reboot… I wasn’t sure about it. So I decided for a factory reset. After that my ext card, with the ICS paths, was not recognized. So bucked up everything, format the ext card and let Kies sync my files and create all the folders needed from JB: Camera Photo Video for pictures, and media for the music. Now I’m let’s say 90% ready to go… I’m curios to test especially the Gps.

How Do I browse data on internal memory

My galaxy s3 has internal and external Storage areas, and they both show up on my computer.
On the Play however, only the external SD card shows up on my PC. Is there any way to get the internal memory to show up on my PC?

Not via USB. I don't know any pther solutions, i already tried it via ftp-server, but it didn't work

You wrong understand android device's storage partitions.
1) Internal memory(you havent said about it): Android stored there. Have size up to 2Gb. Partitions: /system, /data(apps installed in "intermal memory", settings), /cache, /boot(kernel and recovery).
2) Sdcard(in many devices included as "Internal memory", on others its SD card itself), mounted as /sdcard.
3) Ext SD(SD card in devices with built-in /sdcard partition. Its your S3 for example), mounted as /exstsd.
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So, internal memory what you ask about is number one. As i see, you dont know what is it, so you dont need to get there.
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Btw if you sure that you need acces, root phone and use root explorer.
But its not storage for your personal files.

Yeah im on about 'SDcard'. Ive used RootEx to look at the 'SDcard' folder but theres nothing in there.

vinokirk said:
Yeah im on about 'SDcard'. Ive used RootEx to look at the 'SDcard' folder but theres nothing in there.
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Look in system folder under apps and data I think. Can't remember of the top of my
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Cyanogen 10.2 and big problem

Hello guys. To begin with, sorry for my English (I'm from Poland).
I've got a problem with my Samsung Galaxy Note II. I have had jelly bean 4.1.2 (I think) stock system and today I changed it to Cyanogenmod 10.2. Everything is good now but there is a problem with storage on phone's memory. I did a full backup and all wipes using CWM recovery. After I installed new system, I have all my old contacts, but I don't have my music. Furthermore system says that there is only 2,14 GB of free space, although all media, applications, pictures, videos and other blablabla takes only around 100 MB. What should I do?
Thanks for any help

You're the 2nd poster in 24 hours whom I am 99% certain did not wipe as much as your think you did.
Odds are you did NOT wipe /data/media. So ALL you media files are still there. Now Android4.2+ use a different partition for the internal SD card than TouchWiz 4.1, which matters as the TWiz ineternalSD partition is NOT accessible from inside AOSP. There's a flashable zip to move your media across partitions somewhere here on XDA. Otherwise flash back to TouchWiz, move all your stuff over to an external SD card, and then flash back.

Skripka said:
You're the 2nd poster in 24 hours whom I am 99% certain did not wipe as much as your think you did.
Odds are you did NOT wipe /data/media. So ALL you media files are still there. Now Android4.2+ use a different partition for the internal SD card than TouchWiz 4.1, which matters as the TWiz ineternalSD partition is NOT accessible from inside AOSP. There's a flashable zip to move your media across partitions somewhere here on XDA. Otherwise flash back to TouchWiz, move all your stuff over to an external SD card, and then flash back.
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Ok. I've got root and indeed there are all my old files in /data/media
But can I just remove them all from this folder (because I don't need them) or it won't give me free space on phone's storage?

wlodarix said:
Ok. I've got root and indeed there are all my old files in /data/media
But can I just remove them all from this folder (because I don't need them) or it won't give me free space on phone's storage?
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Presuming nothing else is going on....If you really want then delete them and you'll get your storage space back. Otherwise just copy them over to your externalSD card or your new internalSD partition.
Coming from TouchWiz, probably 2GB of your memory is eaten up by your Nandroid backup of your OS...I'm guessing you chose to save everything internal, and nothing on your external SD card.

Skripka said:
Presuming nothing else is going on....If you really want then delete them and you'll get your storage space back. Otherwise just copy them over to your externalSD card or your new internalSD partition.
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Ok. Thank you very much. Topic to close

Android Marshmallow: Format external SD card as internal

Hello there
I formatted my external SD card as internal in Marshmallow (CyanogenMod 13) and I'm able to access it from the device, however when I plug the device into the computer, I can only see the internal storage rather than the external as well. What can I do about this? The reason I am asking is because I took a backup of the External SD Card before I formatted it as internal and I'd like to put everything back (music, pictures, applications, etc.).
Thanks for your time.

TarekElsakka said:
Hello there
I formatted my external SD card as internal in Marshmallow (CyanogenMod 13) and I'm able to access it from the device, however when I plug the device into the computer, I can only see the internal storage rather than the external as well. What can I do about this? The reason I am asking is because I took a backup of the External SD Card before I formatted it as internal and I'd like to put everything back (music, pictures, applications, etc.).
Thanks for your time.
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If I were you I would reformat it back to portable storage because I heard that there can be problems with formatting as internal. Not sure if what I heard is true or not but I would just reformat it back to portable. Then, hopefully it should show up through USB.

JazzieBoi said:
If I were you I would reformat it back to portable storage because I heard that there can be problems with formatting as internal. Not sure if what I heard is true or not but I would just reformat it back to portable. Then, hopefully it should show up through USB.
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@JazzieBoi you're right, using it as part of the internal storage turned out to be too much of a hassle; it's back to portable for me even though it won't allow me to write to it in Titanium Backup and other apps. Thanks for your input.

TarekElsakka said:
@JazzieBoi you're right, using it as part of the internal storage turned out to be too much of a hassle; it's back to portable for me even though it won't allow me to write to it in Titanium Backup and other apps. Thanks for your input.
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Yeah when I store my titanium backup folder on my external with Marshmallow I noticed that when you go into the TB settings and look at the backup folder it says that is isn't writable. Its must be some new permission to deal with the External sdcard on Marshmallow because on Lollipop I never had this problem.

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Yeah when I store my titanium backup folder on my external with Marshmallow I noticed that when you go into the TB settings and look at the backup folder it says that is isn't writable. Its must be some new permission to deal with the External sdcard on Marshmallow because on Lollipop I never had this problem.
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You can fix this by going to Preferences -> Backup Folder Location. At the top of this window there is a "Storage provider" section. Click on this and then change it to "DocumentProvider storage", then find and choose your Titanium Backup folder. This resolved the issue on my LG G4 running Marshmallow and I was able to take my backups.

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You can fix this by going to Preferences -> Backup Folder Location. At the top of this window there is a "Storage provider" section. Click on this and then change it to "DocumentProvider storage", then find and choose your Titanium Backup folder. This resolved the issue on my LG G4 running Marshmallow and I was able to take my backups.
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Yeah man didn't even see this before, thanks