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HTC One X CPU Overclocking???

Can someone tell me where I can find over-clock able kernel for my international One X? And what is the biggest clock speed on ONE X?

At present faux kernel can oc depending on what variant CPU you have but max at 1.6ghz
I have a v2 and can do 1.55 quad fine
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Eternity Project has an OC version up to 1.7GHz single core and 1.6GHz quad core

ZeroInfinity said:
Eternity Project has an OC version up to 1.7GHz single core and 1.6GHz quad core
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Can you post link?

stefan063 said:
Can you post link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640532
Be careful of OC, always remember, not all chips are made equal

About last Repacked Eternity Project for ARHD 9.x.x
Hello,
I try the Last repacked eternity project kernel for ARHD 9.x.x the Kernel: 3.4 v0.38 (Overclocked) at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654982
But the module file was repacked for CMW ROM.
Who find good repacked module corresponding to this kernel ?
Thank you for jour help.

Underclock
As this thread is about setting CPU speeds, can somebody help me with my problem as no one is responding?
Its about underclocking..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868011
Thanks in advance!

how does the OC work? i mean then running all our core it is limited to 1.2 ghz and is 1.5 on a single core.
does that men all cores run at the OC value or just the single core?
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I suggest you flash faux's kernel.
It can oc to 1.6GHZ for most user~
and it support s2W!

I expect many users will be aware of this information, but just in case you aren't.
Anyone overclocking should be aware that this will usually lead to higher power consumption which leads to more heat produced and lower battery life.
Especially if it is necessary to overvolt to acheive higher clock frequencies with stability.
Power consumption is proportional to Voltage squared, so small increases in core coltage can result in larger increases in power consumption than mught be thought.
Needless to say this can have negative impacts on battery discharge time and overall life (due to higher temperatures).
Plus there may be some throttling back of frequency if high temperatures are reached. Also possible that frequency may be reduced to 1Ghz maximum when battery voltage is low (i.e when discharged)
Hope this is helpful (first post here)

paul_59 said:
I expect many users will be aware of this information, but just in case you aren't.
Anyone overclocking should be aware that this will usually lead to higher power consumption which leads to more heat produced and lower battery life.
Especially if it is necessary to overvolt to acheive higher clock frequencies with stability.
Power consumption is proportional to Voltage squared, so small increases in core coltage can result in larger increases in power consumption than mught be thought.
Needless to say this can have negative impacts on battery discharge time and overall life (due to higher temperatures).
Plus there may be some throttling back of frequency if high temperatures are reached. Also possible that frequency may be reduced to 1Ghz maximum when battery voltage is low (i.e when discharged)
Hope this is helpful (first post here)
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CPU throttle starts at 85c with thermal TJ-max of 99c.
also there is many debates about this, higher speed need more power which drains battery, but that said it means work gets faster meaning it can idle faster saving power, same the other side slower speeds save power but take longer to get work done using more power.
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stefan063 said:
Can someone tell me where I can find over-clock able kernel for my international One X? And what is the biggest clock speed on ONE X?
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Go to Faux123 and read the opening post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
it will teach you about Tegra 3 variants.
Flash Faux123 latest kernel to know what variant you have.
You can have 1.5ghz quadcore minimum, except if you have the poor variant0 of the Tegra 3, and 1.6ghz quadcore max if you have variant 3
So the overclocking you can achieve depends on your Tegra 3 variant, whatever the kernel, don't trust the figures in kernel threads titles, they just give the max if you have variant 3. And the majority of people have variant 1 so limited to 1.5ghz quadcore and there's nothing to do about it, no future kernel can change the way your CPU was manufactured.
Just, SetCPU can display 1.6ghz or more, but if you have variant 0 or 1 it will never use it (CPUspy will say 1550 and 1600 are unused frequencies)
Variant 1 can go upt to 1550mhz but not for quadcore, so who cares....! Same for kernels claiming up to 1.7ghz, it's in single/dual core, so once more, who cares?
What is important is what max speed you can achieve in quadcore, nothing else, and the limits are clearly defined by your Tegra3 variant
"all chips are not created equal" was a silly bull**** invented more than one year ago as an easy answer to noobs claiming they couldn't overclock their dual core at their max. Now, on the One-X and because of Nvidia unstable quality"all chips are not created equal" is sadly the truth.
PS: wrong=> to say that overclocking means more voltage, undervolting a custom kernel a little can surprisingly reduce heat when you push your CPU to its max,I can have both 1500mhz quadcore and less voltage than stock, as well as less heat (I was surprised, really, on the Sensation I had always found undervolting kinda useless)
PPS: true=> thermal throttle will always come pretty soon and reduce your max speed......

i900frenchaddict said:
Go to Faux123 and read the opening post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
it will teach you about Tegra 3 variants.
Flash Faux123 latest kernel to know what variant you have.
You can have 1.5ghz quadcore minimum, except if you have the poor variant0 of the Tegra 3, and 1.6ghz quadcore max if you have variant 3
So the overclocking you can achieve depends on your Tegra 3 variant, whatever the kernel, don't trust the figures in kernel threads titles, they just give the max if you have variant 3. And the majority of people have variant 1 so limited to 1.5ghz quadcore and there's nothing to do about it, no future kernel can change the way your CPU was manufactured.
Just, SetCPU can display 1.6ghz or more, but if you have variant 0 or 1 it will never use it (CPUspy will say 1550 and 1600 are unused frequencies)
Variant 1 can go upt to 1550mhz but not for quadcore, so who cares....! Same for kernels claiming up to 1.7ghz, it's in single/dual core, so once more, who cares?
What is important is what max speed you can achieve in quadcore, nothing else, and the limits are clearly defined by your Tegra3 variant
"all chips are not created equal" was a silly bull**** invented more than one year ago as an easy answer to noobs claiming they couldn't overclock their dual core at their max. Now, on the One-X and because of Nvidia unstable quality"all chips are not created equal" is sadly the truth.
PS: wrong=> to say that overclocking means more voltage, undervolting a custom kernel a little can surprisingly reduce heat when you push your CPU to its max,I can have both 1500mhz quadcore and less voltage than stock, as well as less heat (I was surprised, really, on the Sensation I had always found undervolting kinda useless)
PPS: true=> thermal throttle will always come pretty soon and reduce your max speed......
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Nice words and I just won't to add variant 1 can now go to 1.55ghz with faux 07vf I'm currently usein with the lowest most stable undervolt values and less heat than stock kernel and gameplay is amazing also on arhd 9.4
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treebill said:
CPU throttle starts at 85c with thermal TJ-max of 99c.
also there is many debates about this, higher speed need more power which drains battery, but that said it means work gets faster meaning it can idle faster saving power, same the other side slower speeds save power but take longer to get work done using more power.
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Your argument makes sense, but unless the governor is very efficient at controlling the CPU speed very quickly, in most cases your argument doesn’t hold true. For example when playing a game or running a CPU intensive application (where overclocking has any use) the processor works at full speed for the duration of the application.
EDIT: Frankly I don’t see any point in overclocking a phone like One X. I don’t play many games, but the few games I have played ran very smoothly. And if people are overclocking because of the (barely noticeable) laggy UI then overclocking is not a real fix anyway. Installing a custom ROM (perhaps JB), a different launcher, tweaking background apps/services are some of the more sensible and effective things to do instead.
No disrespect to the devs who are working on overclocking, but IMO HTC and nVidia must have spent a considerable amount of time and effort designing the CPU and deciding the optimal operational parameters to maximize performance while minimizing battery drain. Therefore anything out of those parameters (in theory at least) should impact either stability, or battery life. Perhaps the values HTC has decided are not the maximum possible values , because I assume they would have designed the phone to handle few exceptional conditions (i.e: extremely hot weathers). But I think over clocking would probably cause more problems in the long run than whatever the little gains you experience in short term. Just my 2c.

joewong1991 said:
Nice words and I just won't to add variant 1 can now go to 1.55ghz with faux 07vf I'm currently usein with the lowest most stable undervolt values and less heat than stock kernel and gameplay is amazing also on arhd 9.4
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Late reply, I hope you'll read it anyway
I tried faux 007b5, so overclock free too, I had 1.55ghz indeed, but never for quadcore, just for single or dual. Sadly I wasn't able to reach 1.5ghz quadcore but 1.4
With 007u, I have 1.5ghz quadcore, but 1.55 is an unused frequency
Can you check, with tegrastats, if you reach 1.55ghz quadcore or only for 1,2 (or3??) cores?

i900frenchaddict said:
Late reply, I hope you'll read it anyway
I tried faux 007b5, so overclock free too, I had 1.55ghz indeed, but never for quadcore, just for single or dual. Sadly I wasn't able to reach 1.5ghz quadcore but 1.4
With 007u, I have 1.5ghz quadcore, but 1.55 is an unused frequency
Can you check, with tegrastats, if you reach 1.55ghz quadcore or only for 1,2 (or3??) cores?
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I tried tegrastats and I got 1.55 4 cores for about 20 sec and then 2 shut of and then ran 2 at 1150 playin dead trigger and on cod zombies 2 cores at 1350 witch I find strange faux 0105b
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ElementalX kernel - what's the fuss about

Hey guys
Before rooting my tablet I want to know something. Whats the fuss about this specific kernel? I literally see it everywhere ( well done to the dev )
I kinda want to overclock my nexus too 1.7ghz but Im not sure that kernel can do it? I also want amazing battery life I get around 7.5 already so by no means is it bad
J
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I've got elementalx on my nexus 7 2013 : it works perfectly on 1.7ghz... And this kernel has some cool features like double tap to wake... For the battery, you can underclock but while you overclock just a bit, the battery life will be OK
So, flash it ! ?
Térence
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JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys
Before rooting my tablet I want to know something. Whats the fuss about this specific kernel? I literally see it everywhere ( well done to the dev )
I kinda want to overclock my nexus too 1.7ghz but I'm not sure that kernel can do it? I also want amazing battery life I get around 7.5 already so by no means is it bad
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I didn't know there was any kind of a fuss! I think that we are all lucky in the sense that we have multiple good choices for kernels on the Nexus devices and most others in general.
It goes without saying that any custom kernel is going to give you the ability to overclock and it just boils down to what the max MHz is that any specific device can handle. Not that I've tried it but I've seen claims of 1.9 MHz and higher (ElementalX) running fine but each device is going to be different and I personally don't see the point of overclocking that high. I've had mine at 1.7 and 1.8 MHz to run some benchmarks, try different governors (elementalX & ondemand) and get an idea about battery life at those frequencies. Did all that so I can get a comparison to what I see running 1.6 MHz which is what I use everyday, that plus the gpu is set at 450 MHz while using the ondemand governor for both cpu and gpu. I do have to say that my N7 ran very well at 1.7 and 1.8 MHz but "my" goal is to get the best combination of performance and battery life, for my use. I generally see 7- 10 hrs of screen on time which includes watching video and some gaming. Not using any third party apps to control the kernel, mostly default settings when using the aroma installer, slight undervolt for 384 MHz, I don't use DT2W or S2W,. Basically... it's just too easy to install the ElementalX kernel, not worry about having to dial it in and still see a noticeable improvement in performance and battery life. No fuss, no muss!

What are your settings?
!PimpedOutNexus7!

shaolinz said:
What are your settings?
!PimpedOutNexus7!
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Aroma installer;
Set each core separately = no
Max Cpu Frq = 1620Mhz
L2 cache and bus = elementalx
Undervolt = 850 min
Thermal = run hot. Mine never gets hot at 1.6 MHz and this way you don't have to worry about thermal throttling.
Max GPU = 450 MHz
Gpu governor = ondemand
i/o scheduler = deadline.
Sleep/wake settings = None
Other settings = use stock ondemand settings. enable max screen freq, enable usb fastcharge, disable magnetic screen off, disable fsysnc, all other options unchecked,
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You can use the elementalx governor which does a great job and does improve battery life. In the other settings page leave "use ondemand governor' unchecked and check the box for "gboost." For gaming I personally like to leave mine set up with the ondemand governor, seems just a little bit smoother with less frame drops. You can try both to see which works better for you.

Thanks a lot in will let you know how it goes ....great help +1
!PimpedOutNexus7!

Hmmm feels like its running hot
!PimpedOutNexus7!

[Q] UK M9 CPU speed - is it underclocked?

According to HTC website, the SnapDragon 810 in the M9 is supposed to be clocked at 4x 2GHz cores, 4x 1.5GHz cores.
Both CPU Stats and CPU-Z report a max speed of 1.5GHz...
Are we being sold underclocked devices?
I know about the supposed "thermal issues" but to advertise a device at 2GHz but ship it at 1.5Ghz is a bit naughty.
Can anyone confirm their device is running at 2GHz?
TIA
Aaron

Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.

superchilpil said:
Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
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No video, don't worry, I'm not a troll - just look at *all* of my previous posts, all in HTC Wizard/Kaiser/Desire/One X forums, along with Asus TF300T.

Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..

superchilpil said:
Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Indeed, that's why I want to know if others have devices running at 2GHz and this is just an error in these apps. But, if they are clocking at 1.5, they shouldn't be advertising it as being 2 on their website and everywhere else.

Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz

superchilpil said:
Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
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Snapshot from HTC UK this afternoon - note the timestamp on my screengrab...

4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.

superchilpil said:
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
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Good spot, installed Antutu and it recognises max speed of 1.9584GHz so it does look like it's not underclocked.
Running benchmark now - done, and it didn't get hot

" The new phone has a processor that’s theoretically faster, a higher-resolution camera, and other things that should make the new phone an upgrade from last year’s model. But early reviews suggest the new camera doesn’t take stellar photos, the battery life isn’t great, and in order to keep the CPU from overheating HTC recently pushed out a software update that reduces the clock speed… which means the new phone’s probably not much faster than last year’s model. "
http://liliputing.com/2015/03/htc-one-m9-pre-orders-open-march-27-649-unlocked.html

OK all. I've cleaned up the thread to remove the off topic bickering and left only posts that are relevant to the discussion based on the title and the OP.
Let's keep it civil and on topic please.
Thanks,
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Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.

Jonathan-H said:
Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
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Understand that both of those other phones have 32 bit processor's, most apps are probably not optimized for 64bit. So that may be why that app is slower.
And yes you can be quite sure this phone has a thermal throttle, but don't be mistaken. So does every other phone out there.

/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced

LeeDroid said:
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, but i dont know which of which

hamdir said:
@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
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That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly

LeeDroid said:
That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
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in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
Nomal mode:
633mhz to 1958mhz
first 4 cores A53 cluster hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster around 700mhz idle, it goes all the way up to 1958mhz
CPU powersaver:
300mhz to 1552mhz
first 4 cores cluster A53 hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster disabled
GPU Adreno 430 speed between 190mhz and 600mhz, not affected by CPU powersaver, drivers [email protected] ([email protected])
when the device is warm (downloading non stop over wifi) battery temp around 39c, a little less load and the battery temp is around 36c

hamdir said:
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
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Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.

LeeDroid said:
Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
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how does 1.5ghz quad A53 compare to a 1.1ghz quad Krait400? if we are comparing powersavers M8 vs M9
also some correction:
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All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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that's not true, they also added thermal throttle to the GPU, all the way from 600mhz to 300mhz which also brings it down to M8 land (once throttled)

Ah indeed!
Hadn't considered the throttling, I don't tend to use power save a great deal however happy to do some comparisons when I have time

Core freq controll apps, none works!?

As I'm the typical user that underclocks because I don?t use games or heavy apps I'm used to use some apps to do this, but, they are very outdated (setCPU, our dead friend) or they are incompatible... francokernel, trickster mod, kernel adiutor... you can lock freqs but the CPU doesn't give a duck about those apps...
Why? and... is there any way to underclock?
I can live with hotpluged cores limited to 1200mhz and a gpu to 4450mhz... I think we would improve the battery a lot but... we can't limit the cpu-gpu..

Yakandu said:
As I'm the typical user that underclocks because I don?t use games or heavy apps I'm used to use some apps to do this, but, they are very outdated (setCPU, our dead friend) or they are incompatible... francokernel, trickster mod, kernel adiutor... you can lock freqs but the CPU doesn't give a duck about those apps...
Why? and... is there any way to underclock?
I can live with hotpluged cores limited to 1200mhz and a gpu to 4450mhz... I think we would improve the battery a lot but... we can't limit the cpu-gpu..
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Kernel adiutor works perfectly fine...i have been using it with no issue since i got my g4 2 months ago...also i have found to save battery it's bettet to raise lower clock speeds to 633 and 460...at stock setting it wakes and throttles way more than it should...it stays more stable at these speeds and i get amazing standby time...also smoothes out a bit of lag...this has been my experience on all my g line devices

jamesd1085 said:
Kernel adiutor works perfectly fine...i have been using it with no issue since i got my g4 2 months ago...also i have found to save battery it's bettet to raise lower clock speeds to 633 and 460...at stock setting it wakes and throttles way more than it should...it stays more stable at these speeds and i get amazing standby time...also smoothes out a bit of lag...this has been my experience on all my g line devices
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Its not working for me, ine I set max to 1200 i can see processor clock going to 1400, also gpu does the same

Yakandu said:
Its not working for me, ine I set max to 1200 i can see processor clock going to 1400, also gpu does the same
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It works perfectly for me also. Did you click the apply on boot setting?

Speaking about CPU core frequencies, will SetCPU work? I have another question, I noticed when looking at the CPU with various programs, it's always 1.2Ghz, doesn't the G4 actually have a Hexa(6) core 1.8Ghz CPU, what happened to the other 600Mhz?

Kernel Related

Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.

Deep.cdy said:
Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.
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You should try them and find out the most suitable for you, use them for 1-2 days, you'll see the difference.... personally, I'm using NoName kernel with RR

NoName for Lineage based.

Deep.cdy said:
Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.
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i think currently is noname.
we hope a bunch of recognised developers in the near future as franco as many others.

Kirks, for battery...
Dude unlocked the lower cpu freqs...

m666p said:
Kirks, for battery...
Dude unlocked the lower cpu freqs...
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It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?

peter-k said:
It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?
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God knows, but what I do know is that it should produce less heat at the very least and it performs pretty gud on powersave governor. The gpu on the other hand is garbage at min freq (160mhz), even the launcher lags....

peter-k said:
NoName for Lineage based.
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But after flashing no name 1.3 the WiFi doesn't work for me on rr 12th June

Deep.cdy said:
But after flashing no name 1.3 the WiFi doesn't work for me on rr 12th June
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Mine was fine but now I'm on Aosip.

i think for now the best is to use a stock kernel, be careful with the charging limits.

peter-k said:
It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?
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m666p said:
God knows, but what I do know is that it should produce less heat at the very least and it performs pretty gud on powersave governor. The gpu on the other hand is garbage at min freq (160mhz), even the launcher lags....
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Of course it operates at lower voltage as it's a lower frequency and requires less power draw. Lower voltages should mean lower heat, however you don't magically get that lower freqs to operate, you need to tweak the interactive governor to make use of them all efficiently. So far I'm on Kirks kernel and AOSiP and it's a quite good combo.
The lag is not caused by low GPU freqs, it's because of low CPU freqs for that particular load, so governor tweaking is needed.

Cirra92 said:
Of course it operates at lower voltage as it's a lower frequency and requires less power draw. Lower voltages should mean lower heat, however you don't magically get that lower freqs to operate, you need to tweak the interactive governor to make use of them all efficiently. So far I'm on Kirks kernel and AOSiP and it's a quite good combo.
The lag is not caused by low GPU freqs, it's because of low CPU freqs for that particular load, so governor tweaking is needed.
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Lol, I tested what you said out. Because you said it with such confidence...
I changed the cpu governor to performance and set the gpu to 160mhz max...
That made the experience a bit better but it would still lag a lot in recents and app launcher scrolling...
I've attached a screen shot to prove it too...
Another thing, just because the clock is lower does not mean that the voltage is lower as well, many devices that ive owned over the years have had the same voltage's for lower clocks( moto g2, Sony xperia z1)
And lastly, you should "magically" get those lower frequencies(if they are truly unlocked) since governors will always operate within the min/max frequencies that are set by the user or by default(unless it reverts parameters back to stock, like our device does on interactive)...

Forgot screenshot....

m666p said:
Lol, I tested what you said out. Because you said it with such confidence...
I changed the cpu governor to performance and set the gpu to 160mhz max...
That made the experience a bit better but it would still lag a lot in recents and app launcher scrolling...
I've attached a screen shot to prove it too...
Another thing, just because the clock is lower does not mean that the voltage is lower as well, many devices that ive owned over the years have had the same voltage's for lower clocks( moto g2, Sony xperia z1)
And lastly, you should "magically" get those lower frequencies(if they are truly unlocked) since governors will always operate within the min/max frequencies that are set by the user or by default(unless it reverts parameters back to stock, like our device does on interactive)...
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First of all, we are talking here about difference in voltage between stock minimum freq for big cluster, which is 1.1ghz and actual possible minimum which is 300mhz, and there is a difference in voltage, that was the point. The devices I owned, S5 and Z3compact had more CPU steps, therefore the difference between some of the steps was really small or there wasn't any, but the CPU scaling made a jump to the freq with bigger difference (higher or lower, that was the stock behavior so some freqs weren't used). Here it might use all of the freq steps as there are less of them and the difference in voltage is significant enough, which might be the case, I said that because of my experience with previous devices. But you've missed the point anyway, I have said that even if unlocked, some freqs won't be used just because they are there if the governor parameters aren't set properly (or will be barely used). That was my point, I said that as a general note, so users won't jump the gun and blame devs for whatever.
And another one, regarding your test and lag with GPU, now I'm confused why would you set your max at 160mhz? I know it was for testing purposes in this case, but you did complain about it in original post and I said it won't lag because the max would still be set to 430mhz in which case the GPU freq scaling would do the job which it does very good so far. It would lag of course if you set max GPU freq to 160, but that's not what would you do for daily usage, right? Sorry if I misunderstood something.

Cirra92 said:
First of all, we are talking here about difference in voltage between stock minimum freq for big cluster, which is 1.1ghz and actual possible minimum which is 300mhz, and there is a difference in voltage, that was the point. The devices I owned, S5 and Z3compact had more CPU steps, therefore the difference between some of the steps was really small or there wasn't any, but the CPU scaling made a jump to the freq with bigger difference (higher or lower, that was the stock behavior so some freqs weren't used). Here it might use all of the freq steps as there are less of them and the difference in voltage is significant enough, which might be the case, I said that because of my experience with previous devices. But you've missed the point anyway, I have said that even if unlocked, some freqs won't be used just because they are there if the governor parameters aren't set properly (or will be barely used). That was my point, I said that as a general note, so users won't jump the gun and blame devs for whatever.
And another one, regarding your test and lag with GPU, now I'm confused why would you set your max at 160mhz? I know it was for testing purposes in this case, but you did complain about it in original post and I said it won't lag because the max would still be set to 430mhz in which case the GPU freq scaling would do the job which it does very good so far. It would lag of course if you set max GPU freq to 160, but that's not what would you do for daily usage, right? Sorry if I misunderstood something.
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I kinda get what you mean, but the min freqs should kick in by default. They don't though on kirks, you need to change the governor to something like alucard or zzmove once before it actually starts clocking down to 300mhz...
On a side I would just disable the big. Cluster if I could, I don't really need that much cpu performance...
I was trying to find the min gpu freq that would be usable and I was disappointed, cuz my Sony z1 had a smooth ui experience with the gpu clocked at 200mhz max and that thing had a sd800...
Btw, I do all this to get better battery life...

I found out something else, I can't use power save governor any more because it can't handle audio processing(ainur, v4a) when the screen is off...
Just like my old z1, Lol...
Makes me think that the performance is really identical to the snapdragon 800...
I wonder how pissed I would be if a I got the redmi 5 plus, the 625 would have been even worse...

m666p said:
I kinda get what you mean, but the min freqs should kick in by default. They don't though on kirks, you need to change the governor to something like alucard or zzmove once before it actually starts clocking down to 300mhz...
On a side I would just disable the big. Cluster if I could, I don't really need that much cpu performance...
I was trying to find the min gpu freq that would be usable and I was disappointed, cuz my Sony z1 had a smooth ui experience with the gpu clocked at 200mhz max and that thing had a sd800...
Btw, I do all this to get better battery life...
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m666p said:
I found out something else, I can't use power save governor any more because it can't handle audio processing(ainur, v4a) when the screen is off...
Just like my old z1, Lol...
Makes me think that the performance is really identical to the snapdragon 800...
I wonder how pissed I would be if a I got the redmi 5 plus, the 625 would have been even worse...
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Yeah I agree, it should, but how much it stays on minimum freq is dependent on couple of governor parameters (talking about interactive). On mine though it does stay on 300mhz when idling, on stock Kirks settings. Big cluster can be disabled through new hotplug solution, like Intelliplug, which I used on my old devices, and it performed great, 1 core was active when screen was off, screen on and light usage required only 2 cores, while all 4 were active under heavy load. Here however there is only Qualcomm's hotplug solution, until that changes, no luck. Regarding GPU freq, I don't think any device would work smoothly under 200mhz, you can set 266mhz here, it will be smooth, I've tested today, on my old SD801 it performed at 233mhz IIRC.
I've seen that, V4A requires higher freq than 300mhz, or even 422mhz which SD801 had, it's more about the freq rather than the chipset, as I've read on multiple threads that even the devices with SD820 were struggling a lot when processing audio at 300mhz when the screen was off. Don't worry, it's a general issue. There is also the optimization of the rom and audio mods as well, background tasks, kernel, it all goes into the mix.
This is actually a very good chipset, it's technically SD660 just with lower clocks on both CPU and GPU.
EDIT: I forgot, this is my usage on AOSiP + Kirks, stock interactive tunables, min freq 300mhz (big/little), GPU initial/min freq 160mhz, max 430mhz. Using microG instead off GApps, I have used FB, Instagram, Messenger app for 1,5h each, Viber was couple of hours, Chrome some 30mins, Panini sticker album 30+ minutes, 30 minutes of 2G calls. Network mode was LTE, though I was on wifi on whole charge.
Started measuring from 92%.

Thanks bro, that explains a lot...