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Smartwatches: Think Tank (Attn: SONY SMARTWATCH, WIMM, PEBBLE, METAWATCH,MOTO

Having extensive experience with both phone watches and BT-enabled watches, I want to make an important remark to firmware/software developers for these devices, more so after having recently acquired a SONY Smartwatch.
It is simple: NOTIFICATIONS NEED TO BE PUSHED ALL THE WAY. ALL GOODS NEED TO BE DELIVERED.
In the Sony Smartwatch, a vibration accompanied by a Gmail logo is useless. Having me awake the watch, click on ‘Events’, click again on the message and only then being able to see the email message defeats the purpose of immediateness. Probably easier for me to reach out to the phone and see what the notification is about.
The right way to go is simple: everything the phone has in terms of message info needs to be pushed to the watch notification:
“Email from John Doe
To [email protected]
Subject: Dinner on Tue
->And the entire body”
Same with SMS, IM notifications, or anything. Having only the SMS or Gmail or Whatsapp logos and have to hunt down for the message in the watch is absurd.
The way the MBW-150 worked offered way more info at a glance; Sony is moving backward with this minimalistic notification approach. More is needed.
Secondly: let me disable BT on the watch (say when batt is low or overnight) without forcing me to shut down the device -> no time telling anymore.
Third: watch brightness needs to be adjustable from the watch itself (let me manage battery life myself, I’m a grown up).
Fourth: an audio beep won’t kill anyone. When I’m driving, for instance, I cannot feel the phone vibration. A CASIO-style ‘beep-beep’ cannot hurt. While I understand this may involve additional hardware and pose operational complexities, this is a nice-to-have feature.
First two remarks are KEY, and I’d appreciate not only Sony but everybody involved in such development to think a bit smart before pouring a fortune into development.
Anyone has anything else worth highlighting?
Thanks

Sure dude. But first things first... I would scream that let these things display the clock at all times. Failure to do so defeats the whole watch disguise!
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Which app are you using to get Gmail notifications?

jairmoreno said:
Which app are you using to get Gmail notifications?
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I am messing with Customnotifier, GMail notifier (not 2), and RSS (which works best but drains the battery on the phone if set to frequent checks).
In any event, on the watch I only get an icon on the screen, no further info.
Rgds

Well they are moving in the right direction. With the updated firmware, that was released today, you are able to do a couple more things. You now have an option of leaving new watch faces on at all times. Also with notifications, you can now single tap the new notification icon and it will take you straight to the notification!

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Well they are moving in the right direction. With the updated firmware, that was released today, you are able to do a couple more things. You now have an option of leaving new watch faces on at all times. Also with notifications, you can now single tap the new notification icon and it will take you straight to the notification!
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Yes indeed. Touchscreen seems a tad more responsive now also, more polished.
Still, notifications need to appear spontaneously -no need to tap- and bightness should be adjustable -too much backlight for me; always staying indoors.
But it's a good step fwd and the app in the phone is more efficient.

Hi, I'm Considering buying this watch simply cos I'm a geek I guess, but, if it is possible for sony to update the firmware/create new apps, and others also to create new apps etc, isn't it almost inevitable that more detailed notifications will be developed eventually? Or am I wrong, is it up to just sony to develope new apps etc, meaning we'll have to wait for just them to decide, taking ages etc? (Unlinke the wimm one for example)..
It does look great, but I agree, notifications really MUST include details, and if this is a future possibility, then I'll get one. (Mainly due to the wimm one not being on sale over here yet! Arrghh!)

jmpcrx said:
Hi, I'm Considering buying this watch simply cos I'm a geek I guess, but, if it is possible for sony to update the firmware/create new apps, and others also to create new apps etc, isn't it almost inevitable that more detailed notifications will be developed eventually? Or am I wrong, is it up to just sony to develope new apps etc, meaning we'll have to wait for just them to decide, taking ages etc? (Unlinke the wimm one for example)..
It does look great, but I agree, notifications really MUST include details, and if this is a future possibility, then I'll get one. (Mainly due to the wimm one not being on sale over here yet! Arrghh!)
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The notifications seem detailed to me I mean you see the icon if you want to read the message tap the icon once. I like the screen always on update but I won't use it often since I rather have the battery last through the week.
I've checked back ever so often and there new apps popping up so I think development will only improve. Its honestly one of my favorite phone accessories I would recommend trying it out.

general forceps said:
Yes indeed. Touchscreen seems a tad more responsive now also, more polished.
Still, notifications need to appear spontaneously -no need to tap- and bightness should be adjustable -too much backlight for me; always staying indoors.
But it's a good step fwd and the app in the phone is more efficient.
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I agree I can't wait til they update to allow adjustment of of the backlight. The notifications I find using the MMS notifier over Sony's I get no delay in the notifications. The Gmail notifier app I use for Gmail sends me the notice without delay also.

Have you looked at the Metawatch at all? That ended up being my choice. Waiting for delivery.

RedRamage said:
Have you looked at the Metawatch at all? That ended up being my choice. Waiting for delivery.
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Good choice RedRamage. I have the analog Metawatch and expect the new iOS digital version any day. Latest phone console release and functions here

OP - fullly agree with the "at a glance" concept. Metawatch provided this for me and I have the Sony, WIMM, original Liveview and MotoACTV also.
Only very recently I was able to stop using MetaWatch and switch to the Sony only for this. See my blog @ augmentedtraffic.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/finally-true-real-time-at-a-glance-notifications-on-sony-smart-watch (you need to cut & paste into a browser since I have < 10 posts).
I use Tasker/K-9 combined with my app to get "at a glance' on a SonyWatch!
I am still testing battery life, but it seems OK. I haven't put the app on the market as yet as it is very customized to my use cases and it may be a bit too much for others to use. The only thing I am currently missing from the MetaWatch is the next upcoming appointment. I have everything else I was using (notifications at a glance, phone battery life, location, weather). I even added my last Withings scale weigh-in

Ok, I've got both of the 1st Gen MetaWatch models (The bt2 Analog and Digital ones), and maintain a popular fork of the Android MW software (see link in my sig), so I'll try and answer your points in relation to that watch.
1) Yes, MW will display your notifications as soon as the phone does - gmail is a little tricky as google keeps changing/modifying/revoking permissions with the official gmail app, so the information available to the watch manager app can be a little sketchy. If you use k-9 mail, you'll see the sender and subject. It doesn't display body text yet, but that is doable. Gmail would also be fixable by just making the app go to the gmail server directly and pull the message text when the new mail notification comes in.
The fork I maintain has an "Other notifications" Option, that lets you selectively display any android notification, although the OS limits how much information we can actually pull. If anyone has requests for additional notification support, then I'm happy to try adding it, assuming the developer of the app has provided intents or an api to access that information.
Currently notifications will stay on screen for a few seconds, then disappear (except for the SMS notifications, which, on the digital watch can be set to stay on screen until dismissed, as you can see the full body, and scroll) - On the digital watch you can configure a button to redisplay the last notification again if you missed it, and there's an on watch menu of all the previous notifications which is only a few button presses away.
2) Yes, all the MW models have a menu option (on the watch) that let you disable BT without turning off the watch, so you can still tell the time
3) Yes, the Analog MW model has menu options to configure the OLED brightness. There's nothing to configure on the Digital model, as it has an always on LCD screen (though there's an option in my fork of the app to automatically turn on its light when a notification comes in)
4) The MWs don't have a speaker, but they do have a powerful vibrator inside - it's pretty hard to miss it when it does vibrate, and the app lets you configure different vibration patterns for different notifications, so you can know what sort of message it was without even looking.
Let me know if you've got any other questions!

MW has some very good stuff, I'm quite familiar with it.
Pity -both for MW and SW- is the poor pixel density. I believe MOTO has a much better display.
B/W displays appear sub-optimal to me and definitely not the direction the market wants to move toward.
Also, beyond the immediate 'at-a-glance' notification, can you read within the watch the full email or notification in MW? This is also a key element.
One more topic I missed on SW is that once connection is lost we need not only vibration but some on-screen display, like a warning sign or something. This feature prevented me from leaving behind a SGSII in a bar when I was using my ancient MBW-150. Vibration won't typically suffice.
I survive 2.5 full days with heavy notification traffic with my SW. How long you stay unplugged with MW under heavy traffic?
Thanks for the good discussion.

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Also, beyond the immediate 'at-a-glance' notification, can you read within the watch the full email or notification in MW? This is also a key element.
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As I said, the current software doesn't support that, but it's something I'm planning on adding.
SMS messages currently support this - you can page through a long message, then dismiss it when you're done, so I just need to add the code to pull out (and strip html from) the body text - I know for certain that it's easily possible using k-9 mail, gmail will probably need work to talk to google's mail server directly to get the message text.
general forceps said:
One more topic I missed on SW is that once connection is lost we need not only vibration but some on-screen display, like a warning sign or something. This feature prevented me from leaving behind a SGSII in a bar when I was using my ancient MBW-150. Vibration won't typically suffice.
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Yes, it'll display a "No watch connection" icon in the top right of the time display, which is pretty hard to miss!
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I survive 2.5 full days with heavy notification traffic with my SW. How long you stay unplugged with MW under heavy traffic?
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I tend to get 2 or 3 days, depending on what I'm doing - 3 days for medium traffic, 2 for heavy traffic (usually when I'm developing features, so pushing lots of data to the watch)
3 days = Taken off the charger on Monday morning, needs to go back on the charger Wednesday evening before I go to bed.
I could probably get much longer battery life if I manually turned bt off each night, and back in the morning, but I like having my watch vibrate in the morning when the alarm goes off! Perhaps adding a "bt sleep" mode to the firmware would be a good addition.

How long does your battery last on the Sony Smartwatch if you keep the small digital clock on at all times?
I've had my watch a little over a week and haven't been able to make it through the day yet even with minimal notifications. The battery life has been very disappointing.

@benjymous:
I forgot to note that I shut it down when I go to sleep. In the morning I turn it on with no pairing issues, so we'd be looking at 18h/day actual uptime, for a total of say 45h per charge. Not stellar by any means.
@tjrhine:
It didn't even cross my mind to have the screen on full-time. It is obvious you won't make it tremendously far (I think the bat has a capacity below 130). No way. I push the button to get the time, I can live with this.
I also need to report that the glass is far from scratchproof. That's something that really pisses people off. Next HW release should DEFINITELY include at least Gorilla Glass and certainly a bigger battery. The thickness of the plastic clip and the strap can be each reduced by about half a millimeter that combined gives you 1mm that they should invest in a bigger capacity batt.
And obviously, a standard usb port.
Please keep ideas coming folks, thanks.

And this is how the notification queue should look like:
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/767/inPulse_SmartWatch-2.jpg

I'm having exact same problem - Battery lasts barely 8-10 hrs. Do we need replacement watches?

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And this is how the notification queue should look like:
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Looks like chinese product

Use cases with the Moto 360

Let's discuss how we use this watch so that we can share ideas with each other to further increase our experiences with it.
1) obviously notifications. I really like the fact that I don't have to pull out my phone to check every notification. I look at them on my watch and I can dismiss the ones that aren't important or choose to take out my phone if it is a notification that needs immediate attention.
2) I play Ingress, so getting portal attack notifications or comm message notifications are really handy. I can then decide if I want to pull out my phone to recharge the portals or simply dismiss the notifications.
3) speech to text is awesome. When people text me, I can reply by voice which it sends through my hangouts. One thing I noticed is that when I say 'OK Google', I don't have to wait for the prompt to show up to issue my command. I simply say all at once, "OK Google send text to (name) mobile." The animation catches up, then waits for my message which then I say what my message is.
Especially handy when I'm driving since I can still read the watch while I have my hands on the steering wheel at the 10 & 2 positions to make sure it got what I said.
I get many different hangouts notifications from different recipients so it's nice that I can pick which message I want to on my watch, then respond to them by voice all from my watch.
4) navigation is really helpful. I can now start Google maps navigation and get turn by turn alerts on my watch while running Ingress on my phone so I can still collect XM while driving and not miss out on navigation instructions.
The notification vibrates on my watch and lights up with the instruction, and even though I'm in the Ingress app, I still get the voice prompts from my phone which tells me to "stay on the second lane from the right" which the watch doesn't show. It only shows me that I need to make a right turn at such and such street. Really handy.
5) I'm very forgetful so before i got the watch, I set reminders with time and dates on my phone. But now, I can simply say "OK Google set a reminder for tomorrow at 12:00 pm to wish mom a happy birthday" all from my watch.
6) I installed the Pebble Locker app which allows me to make my watch a trusted Bluetooth device so I can bypass my lock screen code. And when my phone gets too far away from me (if someone were to steal it), the Bluetooth connection gets disconnected and locks my phone automatically.
These are just a few of my use cases where it's been incredibly helpful to not constantly pull out my phone from my pocket.
What are yours?
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

I can control my Chromecast from the watch. I'm watching a movie through Google play and I have playback controls.
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Mine controls the lights, garage door, nest, alarm, and fireplaces with voice commands. Besides moto360 and android wear, also needed autovoice, tasker, xposed framework, ifttt, homeseer, and zwave.

dolebomo said:
Mine controls the lights, garage door, nest, alarm, and fireplaces with voice commands. Besides moto360 and android wear, also needed autovoice, tasker, xposed framework, ifttt, homeseer, and zwave.
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Awesome. I wish I could do that.
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For that Pebble Locker app, can you shorten the distance the phone will lock?
I.e. the Moto 360 Bluetooth range is pretty far and I don't want the phone to be still in its unlocked state if I wonder 25 ft away from the phone.

lanwarrior said:
For that Pebble Locker app, can you shorten the distance the phone will lock?
I.e. the Moto 360 Bluetooth range is pretty far and I don't want the phone to be still in its unlocked state if I wonder 25 ft away from the phone.
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No, I don't see an option for that in the app.
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The_other_ray said:
4) navigation is really helpful. I can now start Google maps navigation and get turn by turn alerts on my watch while running Ingress on my phone so I can still collect XM while driving and not miss out on navigation instructions.
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What I hate about navigation on the watch is that starting it will turn on the screen on my phone. If I need walking direction and the phone is on my pocket, this will burn a lot battery and the phone is prone to accidental touches.

lanwarrior said:
What I hate about navigation on the watch is that starting it will turn on the screen on my phone. If I need walking direction and the phone is on my pocket, this will burn a lot battery and the phone is prone to accidental touches.
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Yeah I noticed that also. So knowing that, I just turn my phone screen off before putting it in my pocket.
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The_other_ray said:
Yeah I noticed that also. So knowing that, I just turn my phone screen off before putting it in my pocket.
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This creates extra steps for me:
1. Say "Ok, Google. Navigate to Starbucks"
2. Get phone out of my pocket
3. Wait till routing calculations is done
4. Turn off screen
5. Put phone back in pocket
Kinda defeat the hands free feature of Android Wear, isn't it? [emoji12]

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This creates extra steps for me:
1. Say "Ok, Google. Navigate to Starbucks"
2. Get phone out of my pocket
3. Wait till routing calculations is done
4. Turn off screen
5. Put phone back in pocket
Kinda defeat the hands free feature of Android Wear, isn't it? [emoji12]
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Oh, I'm totally with you.
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The_other_ray said:
2) I play Ingress, so getting portal attack notifications or comm message notifications are really handy. I can then decide if I want to pull out my phone to recharge the portals or simply dismiss the notifications.
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I also play Ingress and I have had attack notifications off since i got my Black Gaurdian long ago, but i turned them back on the day i got my 360 and i love seeing them pop up. I can hit "Open on Phone" and when i pull the phone out of my pocket Ingress is already loading/loaded so i can recharge and/or @ the attacker in Comm.

The_other_ray said:
5) I'm very forgetful so before i got the watch, I set reminders with time and dates on my phone. But now, I can simply say "OK Google set a reminder for tomorrow at 12:00 pm to wish mom a happy birthday" all from my watch.
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One thing that annoys me, and this is more of a google now problem, is the card that shows up for an hour before reminders. I wish there was a way where you can either keep it from showing up early at all, or at least make it 10 min or something. For most reminders, I don't need it to cover my watch face for an hour and if I swipe it away I don't even get reminded at the correct time. Has anyone else noticed this?

PsychDrummer said:
One thing that annoys me, and this is more of a google now problem, is the card that shows up for an hour before reminders. I wish there was a way where you can either keep it from showing up early at all, or at least make it 10 min or something. For most reminders, I don't need it to cover my watch face for an hour and if I swipe it away I don't even get reminded at the correct time. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yup, I noticed that as well. That doesn't make any sense.
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Yup, I noticed that as well. That doesn't make any sense.
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I rather use Any.do for reminders but I won't be able to set it as a default app. At least I don't think.

I got my Moto 360 yesterday and tried my primary use case this morning. Wife and I run marathons and like many (some? ) runners we obsess over our stats. We've been using Garmin 410s to record our runs. My problem with that is that the pace is reports while running is really noisy - not useful for helping me to maintain my goal pace. The other issue is that the HRM gets bad readings later in my rn, probably because I perspire heavily. I got a bluetooth chest strap and it works great on my phone. But the phone is a relative PITA to use on runs. I have to keep it in a zip lock bag in a pocket and pockets are few in running gear. It's great to have an accessory on my wrist that can give me instant stats w/out digging my phone out of wherever I stowed it. Better yet, a tap on the phone starts recording when I'm ready to run, not before I stick my phone in my pocket. And when I'm done, the phone uploads my stats automatically.
good stuff

[Q] Disable Google Now "Travel To" and "Weather" Notifications

EDIT: ignore; posted to wrong subforum.
Is there a way to disable the Google Now notifications for "travel to" and "weather" that popup on your phone all day long? I never need or want to know how long it is to travel to my home or office. I don't want a weather update either. How can I disable that crap? I tried going to the Android Wear app, then Settings | Block Apps, but there is nothing listed there that corresponds to these annoying notifications.

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Is there a way to disable the Google Now notifications for "travel to" and "weather" that popup on your phone all day long? I never need or want to know how long it is to travel to my home or office. I don't want a weather update either. How can I disable that crap? I tried going to the Android Wear app, then Settings | Block Apps, but there is nothing listed there that corresponds to these annoying notifications.
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In Now on the phone you can go to menu/Customize/Everything else and turn off the weather updates. I'm not sure about the travel ones.

CSX321 said:
In Now on the phone you can go to menu/Customize/Everything else and turn off the weather updates. I'm not sure about the travel ones.
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Thats not working for me, both weather and travel cards keep appearing

I think when the notification pops up on your phone you can go to google now and there is an option to "never remind me about this" or something like that. I've done it before I don't remember the exact process, good luck

xmeatizmurderx said:
I think when the notification pops up on your phone you can go to google now and there is an option to "never remind me about this" or something like that. I've done it before I don't remember the exact process, good luck
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Yes, that applies to almost any app, but not for Google Now for some reason. You can't block them from the phone

This has now started to annoy me a bit too. The amount of times I glance down and think I've got a notification, only to find that it's telling me the weather outside the window I'm sitting next to.
The "travel to" is sometimes interesting, since it seems to pick up routines, but my life is pretty boring, so I've never had cause to use it. That, plus it updates slowly, so it'll tell me I'm 10 minutes from home when I'm inside.
I don't mind them being there if I scrolled down to view - similar to how Google Now works on a handset, but to have them constantly reappearing kind of dilutes the concept of notifications.

Cessquill said:
This has now started to annoy me a bit too. The amount of times I glance down and think I've got a notification, only to find that it's telling me the weather outside the window I'm sitting next to.
The "travel to" is sometimes interesting, since it seems to pick up routines, but my life is pretty boring, so I've never had cause to use it. That, plus it updates slowly, so it'll tell me I'm 10 minutes from home when I'm inside.
I don't mind them being there if I scrolled down to view - similar to how Google Now works on a handset, but to have them constantly reappearing kind of dilutes the concept of notifications.
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I'm not sure I entirely buy their concept of notifications-only on the watch in the first place. Some of these cards represent information that I may want to know on demand. Delivering them only in the manner of a notification means that I can't find the information out right "now" when I want to. And, it means that they unnecessarily alert me to information that I don't want to know at that particular time.
And, if I want to leave them visible (i.e. not swipe to dismiss them), then they continually clutter the bottom of the screen as if they are important information that I'm not aware of - even if I've already visited them and read what they had to say.
There needs to be a concept of "information available" which are screens that can be set to "always available" and they do not act like notifications - they never vibrate and they don't show up on the screen, but you can swipe down to them when you wish.
Even notifications need an "acknowledged, but not dismissed" state so that even if it was a text message or phone call that you missed, you can leave it on the watch but once you've read it you can have it not peek out at you when all you want to do is read the time.
The data provided on the watch needs a lot more flavors and distinctions than "everything is an equally important and annoying notification that you must deal with or dismiss or it won't go away".

^ I agree, hopefully future upgrades of Android Wear will be more sophisticated.

Notification delay issue on my new Pixel XL

Hello,
Just got a new PixelXL and am having issues with notifications from the gmail app. During the day, the alerts seem fine. But during the middle of the night, they are hit and miss. I need them to wake me up for emergency alerts, and I'm finding that at some hours they go off without issue, but other times they don't.
For example, this morning it went off at 4am with no issue. At 8am I woke up, looked at my phone and had 0 alerts. However, after waking my screen and then shutting it off, I suddenly got alerts. I had missed 6 alerts between 6:45am and 7:45am, that never pushed in to my phone at all.
I've been searching for answers and found info about battery optimization, however my phone is set to not use battery optimization so that is not the issue. Does anybody else have any suggestions?

@prodiac,
Welcome to the Pixel/Nexus world. I'm sorry to tell you that this has been an ongoing issue on Nexus 6, 5X, 6P, and now the Pixel and XL for at least two years. Google used to have a help thread on it, but they closed it early this year as "solved", even though it's clearly not. There are some things folks do, like disable battery optimization for gmail, but realistically I can tell you that doesn't really help. FWIW, there's no known solution....

Are these from specific sender's? Set up a Gmail rule to forward it to one of the free email to text services and text them to yourself.

TonikJDK said:
Are these from specific sender's? Set up a Gmail rule to forward it to one of the free email to text services and text them to yourself.
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I'll have to look in to that option, thanks.

TonikJDK said:
Are these from specific sender's? Set up a Gmail rule to forward it to one of the free email to text services and text them to yourself.
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FWIW, when my device(s) start delayed notifications, it doesn't matter who the sender is. My Nexus 6 did it (sporadically) for 2 years and now my Pixel XL does it, too. As the OP noted, it's usually later in the afternoon/early evening....
As you can see (on the following link) there are 679 users who have reported/commented on this bug to Google > https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197805

cam30era said:
FWIW, when my device(s) start delayed notifications, it doesn't matter who the sender is. My Nexus 6 did it (sporadically) for 2 years and now my Pixel XL does it, too. As the OP noted, it's usually later in the afternoon/early evening....
As you can see (on the following link) there are 679 users who have reported/commented on this bug to Google > https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197805
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I can't even get XDA notifications consistently lol. If you quote this message and reply back to me I'll probably get the Gmail notification sometime in the first hour and the XDA app notification anywhere within 10 min to 3 hours haha. All apps have battery optimization off. Such a joke

aholeinthewor1d said:
I can't even get XDA notifications consistently lol. If you quote this message and reply back to me I'll probably get the Gmail notification sometime in the first hour and the XDA app notification anywhere within 10 min to 3 hours haha. All apps have battery optimization off. Such a joke
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Ditto here. Sometimes I don't get any XDA quote notification.

cam30era said:
Ditto here. Sometimes I don't get any XDA quote notification.
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Yes!! Same here. Sometimes they get lost in space I guess. So annoying. Anyways.. I got the Gmail notification from your reply at 3:40 EST. Still no XDA notification though.
I know there is a notification issue with almost every app but I'm curious if the issue is half the fault of android and half the fault of the XDA app. I've been having lots of issues with it on the Pixel that I never had even once on my GS5.
For example for the past 2 nights I've been having conversations in 2 or 3 threads with people where we were posting responses maybe once every 5 min. So pretty much a non stop conversation. I kept having this issue where I would post my reply and get the message saying it was posted but yet I didn't see it in the thread. I'd refresh and it still wasn't there. I'd close the app. Still not there. If I logged into the website via chrome it was there right away. This has happened ever day since I've had the phone. I've obv cleared cache/data for the app which did nothing. I've uninstalled and reinstalled. Also did flashed factory image 3 times and set up as new for other reasons but even that didn't correct the issues with this app. Other random things happened to. I was trying to post 2 pictures last night. It only showed one of them. I went back to edit the post and it showed the filenames of both but I couldn't remove them. Logged into the website in chrome and remade the post. So pretty much there are just random VERY annoying issues with this app and this phone.

Is this an Android issue with all phones (Samsung, HTC, etc) or just Pixel/Nexus phones? I have the same issue with notifications.

mjs2011 said:
Is this an Android issue with all phones (Samsung, HTC, etc) or just Pixel/Nexus phones? I have the same issue with notifications.
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Go here and have a look > https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197805

mjs2011 said:
Is this an Android issue with all phones (Samsung, HTC, etc) or just Pixel/Nexus phones? I have the same issue with notifications.
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Looks like it's happening on other phones too. In the link posted above, I saw Galaxy S5 and HTC One M9 listed.

Happened on my 5X, returned that and got a 6P and it happened on that as well. I had to use Nine for my work email it was so bad. So now it randomly happens work my hotmail and gmail addresses in the Gmail app, it's really unbelievable.

The delay in syncing has been irrational for me, but appears to be based on how long since the phone was last used.
I am trying out a different mail app, BlueMail [Play Store][Free], to see if that syncs quicker.

cam30era said:
FWIW, when my device(s) start delayed notifications, it doesn't matter who the sender is. My Nexus 6 did it (sporadically) for 2 years and now my Pixel XL does it, too. As the OP noted, it's usually later in the afternoon/early evening....
As you can see (on the following link) there are 679 users who have reported/commented on this bug to Google > https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197805
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For me its in the morning... But morning for me is 12:00 Noon. But I note it alot on 7.1.1 but not so much on 7.1.0.
pTeronaut said:
The delay in syncing has been irrational for me, but appears to be based on how long since the phone was last used.
I am trying out a different mail app, BlueMail [Play Store][Free], to see if that syncs quicker.
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This is why I think it has to do with "Doze" or whatever the deep sleep is in 7.1.1. But what is odd is that its beeing noted on 6.x devices as well and I never had an issue there. Might have to switch to my N6 and test it out.

Scott said:
Might have to switch to my N6 and test it out.
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FWIW: Same symptoms on my N6 as well. And I agree with you, it does feel like it might be related to Doze...

pTeronaut said:
The delay in syncing has been irrational for me, but appears to be based on how long since the phone was last used.
I am trying out a different mail app, BlueMail [Play Store][Free], to see if that syncs quicker.
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With my phone sitting idle for over thirty minutes, I sent myself an email to the account on my Pixel from another account.
Bluemail notified me immediately, Gmail app never did, despite saying it last synced three minutes later.

pTeronaut said:
Bluemail notified me immediately, Gmail app never did, despite saying it last synced three minutes later.
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You're right!
I tried Bluemail and it does appear to be working better for notifications. Thanks.

My Type/Blue mail email app gets laggy with the notifications when my phone has been off more than a couple hours.
It was all good with Lollipop.
Then got laggy with Marshmallow and continues with Nougat.
Been like this on a few different phones.
Ever since that stupid Doze was implemented, or whatever it's called that comes with Android to sleep apps.
And yes, I do remove it from Battery Optimization.
I have like five different email vendors (yahoo, google, etc).
Never bothered to see if it was happening with all or just one of them.
I just know I'd wake up in the AM.
See no new messages.
Then pick up my phone and five minutes later I get a bunch of new message notifications.
Since I'm sleeping, it hasn't been a huge enough issue for me to investigate.
But I will say that I miss the non-doze with Lollipop + Greenify.
Then again, I get stupendous battery life nowadays.

CZ Eddie said:
My Type/Blue mail email app gets laggy with the notifications when my phone has been off more than a couple hours.
It was all good with Lollipop.
Then got laggy with Marshmallow and continues with Nougat.
Been like this on a few different phones.
Ever since that stupid Doze was implemented, or whatever it's called that comes with Android to sleep apps.
And yes, I do remove it from Battery Optimization.
I have like five different email vendors (yahoo, google, etc).
Never bothered to see if it was happening with all or just one of them.
I just know I'd wake up in the AM.
See no new messages.
Then pick up my phone and five minutes later I get a bunch of new message notifications.
Since I'm sleeping, it hasn't been a huge enough issue for me to investigate.
But I will say that I miss the non-doze with Lollipop + Greenify.
Then again, I get stupendous battery life nowadays.
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I've seen the same thing on several phones for the past year or more. I've noticed it on gmail, inbox and hangouts. I think it's the low power state the system gets in after a while, like at night as you said. When deep sleep gets to 96-97%, the phone is next to powered off, hence the good battery life. Only a guess though. I would still like to be notified, that's why I have notifications on. Maybe a kernel tweak to keep the phone out of deep sleep would help, but would hit the battery life. Maybe a very low minimum cpu setting would help. Like you said, it's not that big of a deal for me. Most of my family uses hangouts so I was more concerned about missing messages than emails but most of them come as they should. Nothing's perfect, I'm pretty happy with android and the pixel and the folks here that share what they know with everyone.

To be honest it's a complete joke that there is such a big issues with this and they can't figure out simple notifications. I've never had even the slightest issue like this on any of my past phones. The worst part is that it's not even consistent and there is no pattern to when they come. Just completely random.

Question I can no longer change my text message sound

Long story short, I changed my text message sound to Pulse Beam as soon as I got the Z Fold3 in August. I cracked it, and got a replacement mailed to me in early February. I transferred everything, and it was pretty much a success (for the most part).
So last night I wanted to change Pulse Beam to something else. I went to my Messages, Settings, etc. and changed it to something else (let's use Nebula as an example). Well, I hear the Nebula sound when I press it, and see that it is set. I exit out, and when someone texts me, it's still Pulse Beam. I go back in Settings and see that it's still on Nebula. I have tried about 10 different sounds (even from Zedge) and while it appears to be working (let's me set whatever), it's still the same old Pulse Beam when someone texts me.
Now, I can still set individual text messages and that will work (say I set Joe to Nebula, it will be the Nebula sound when he texts me), but that is a pain. I don't want to set 200+ new contacts.
I don't know what happens if someone not in my contacts texts me, but I'll try and find out later today at work. Anyway, how weird is this? Any ideas?

Zap! said:
Long story short, I changed my text message sound to Pulse Beam as soon as I got the Z Fold3 in August. I cracked it, and got a replacement mailed to me in early February. I transferred everything, and it was pretty much a success (for the most part).
So last night I wanted to change Pulse Beam to something else. I went to my Messages, Settings, etc. and changed it to something else (let's use Nebula as an example). Well, I hear the Nebula sound when I press it, and see that it is set. I exit out, and when someone texts me, it's still Pulse Beam. I go back in Settings and see that it's still on Nebula. I have tried about 10 different sounds (even from Zedge) and while it appears to be working (let's me set whatever), it's still the same old Pulse Beam when someone texts me.
Now, I can still set individual text messages and that will work (say I set Joe to Nebula, it will be the Nebula sound when he texts me), but that is a pain. I don't want to set 200+ new contacts.
I don't know what happens if someone not in my contacts texts me, but I'll try and find out later today at work. Anyway, how weird is this? Any ideas?
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Have you tried clearing data and cache on the message app?

m_w_clarke said:
Have you tried clearing data and cache on the message app?
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Edit: It's all good now. I was changing Message General Notifications instead of New Messages. Always the easy fixes lol.

Yes Android has changed notification sounds so the are linked to notification events instead of settings inside the app.