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Smartwatches: Think Tank (Attn: SONY SMARTWATCH, WIMM, PEBBLE, METAWATCH,MOTO

Having extensive experience with both phone watches and BT-enabled watches, I want to make an important remark to firmware/software developers for these devices, more so after having recently acquired a SONY Smartwatch.
It is simple: NOTIFICATIONS NEED TO BE PUSHED ALL THE WAY. ALL GOODS NEED TO BE DELIVERED.
In the Sony Smartwatch, a vibration accompanied by a Gmail logo is useless. Having me awake the watch, click on ‘Events’, click again on the message and only then being able to see the email message defeats the purpose of immediateness. Probably easier for me to reach out to the phone and see what the notification is about.
The right way to go is simple: everything the phone has in terms of message info needs to be pushed to the watch notification:
“Email from John Doe
To [email protected]
Subject: Dinner on Tue
->And the entire body”
Same with SMS, IM notifications, or anything. Having only the SMS or Gmail or Whatsapp logos and have to hunt down for the message in the watch is absurd.
The way the MBW-150 worked offered way more info at a glance; Sony is moving backward with this minimalistic notification approach. More is needed.
Secondly: let me disable BT on the watch (say when batt is low or overnight) without forcing me to shut down the device -> no time telling anymore.
Third: watch brightness needs to be adjustable from the watch itself (let me manage battery life myself, I’m a grown up).
Fourth: an audio beep won’t kill anyone. When I’m driving, for instance, I cannot feel the phone vibration. A CASIO-style ‘beep-beep’ cannot hurt. While I understand this may involve additional hardware and pose operational complexities, this is a nice-to-have feature.
First two remarks are KEY, and I’d appreciate not only Sony but everybody involved in such development to think a bit smart before pouring a fortune into development.
Anyone has anything else worth highlighting?
Thanks

Sure dude. But first things first... I would scream that let these things display the clock at all times. Failure to do so defeats the whole watch disguise!
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Which app are you using to get Gmail notifications?

jairmoreno said:
Which app are you using to get Gmail notifications?
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I am messing with Customnotifier, GMail notifier (not 2), and RSS (which works best but drains the battery on the phone if set to frequent checks).
In any event, on the watch I only get an icon on the screen, no further info.
Rgds

Well they are moving in the right direction. With the updated firmware, that was released today, you are able to do a couple more things. You now have an option of leaving new watch faces on at all times. Also with notifications, you can now single tap the new notification icon and it will take you straight to the notification!

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Well they are moving in the right direction. With the updated firmware, that was released today, you are able to do a couple more things. You now have an option of leaving new watch faces on at all times. Also with notifications, you can now single tap the new notification icon and it will take you straight to the notification!
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Yes indeed. Touchscreen seems a tad more responsive now also, more polished.
Still, notifications need to appear spontaneously -no need to tap- and bightness should be adjustable -too much backlight for me; always staying indoors.
But it's a good step fwd and the app in the phone is more efficient.

Hi, I'm Considering buying this watch simply cos I'm a geek I guess, but, if it is possible for sony to update the firmware/create new apps, and others also to create new apps etc, isn't it almost inevitable that more detailed notifications will be developed eventually? Or am I wrong, is it up to just sony to develope new apps etc, meaning we'll have to wait for just them to decide, taking ages etc? (Unlinke the wimm one for example)..
It does look great, but I agree, notifications really MUST include details, and if this is a future possibility, then I'll get one. (Mainly due to the wimm one not being on sale over here yet! Arrghh!)

jmpcrx said:
Hi, I'm Considering buying this watch simply cos I'm a geek I guess, but, if it is possible for sony to update the firmware/create new apps, and others also to create new apps etc, isn't it almost inevitable that more detailed notifications will be developed eventually? Or am I wrong, is it up to just sony to develope new apps etc, meaning we'll have to wait for just them to decide, taking ages etc? (Unlinke the wimm one for example)..
It does look great, but I agree, notifications really MUST include details, and if this is a future possibility, then I'll get one. (Mainly due to the wimm one not being on sale over here yet! Arrghh!)
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The notifications seem detailed to me I mean you see the icon if you want to read the message tap the icon once. I like the screen always on update but I won't use it often since I rather have the battery last through the week.
I've checked back ever so often and there new apps popping up so I think development will only improve. Its honestly one of my favorite phone accessories I would recommend trying it out.

general forceps said:
Yes indeed. Touchscreen seems a tad more responsive now also, more polished.
Still, notifications need to appear spontaneously -no need to tap- and bightness should be adjustable -too much backlight for me; always staying indoors.
But it's a good step fwd and the app in the phone is more efficient.
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I agree I can't wait til they update to allow adjustment of of the backlight. The notifications I find using the MMS notifier over Sony's I get no delay in the notifications. The Gmail notifier app I use for Gmail sends me the notice without delay also.

Have you looked at the Metawatch at all? That ended up being my choice. Waiting for delivery.

RedRamage said:
Have you looked at the Metawatch at all? That ended up being my choice. Waiting for delivery.
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Good choice RedRamage. I have the analog Metawatch and expect the new iOS digital version any day. Latest phone console release and functions here

OP - fullly agree with the "at a glance" concept. Metawatch provided this for me and I have the Sony, WIMM, original Liveview and MotoACTV also.
Only very recently I was able to stop using MetaWatch and switch to the Sony only for this. See my blog @ augmentedtraffic.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/finally-true-real-time-at-a-glance-notifications-on-sony-smart-watch (you need to cut & paste into a browser since I have < 10 posts).
I use Tasker/K-9 combined with my app to get "at a glance' on a SonyWatch!
I am still testing battery life, but it seems OK. I haven't put the app on the market as yet as it is very customized to my use cases and it may be a bit too much for others to use. The only thing I am currently missing from the MetaWatch is the next upcoming appointment. I have everything else I was using (notifications at a glance, phone battery life, location, weather). I even added my last Withings scale weigh-in

Ok, I've got both of the 1st Gen MetaWatch models (The bt2 Analog and Digital ones), and maintain a popular fork of the Android MW software (see link in my sig), so I'll try and answer your points in relation to that watch.
1) Yes, MW will display your notifications as soon as the phone does - gmail is a little tricky as google keeps changing/modifying/revoking permissions with the official gmail app, so the information available to the watch manager app can be a little sketchy. If you use k-9 mail, you'll see the sender and subject. It doesn't display body text yet, but that is doable. Gmail would also be fixable by just making the app go to the gmail server directly and pull the message text when the new mail notification comes in.
The fork I maintain has an "Other notifications" Option, that lets you selectively display any android notification, although the OS limits how much information we can actually pull. If anyone has requests for additional notification support, then I'm happy to try adding it, assuming the developer of the app has provided intents or an api to access that information.
Currently notifications will stay on screen for a few seconds, then disappear (except for the SMS notifications, which, on the digital watch can be set to stay on screen until dismissed, as you can see the full body, and scroll) - On the digital watch you can configure a button to redisplay the last notification again if you missed it, and there's an on watch menu of all the previous notifications which is only a few button presses away.
2) Yes, all the MW models have a menu option (on the watch) that let you disable BT without turning off the watch, so you can still tell the time
3) Yes, the Analog MW model has menu options to configure the OLED brightness. There's nothing to configure on the Digital model, as it has an always on LCD screen (though there's an option in my fork of the app to automatically turn on its light when a notification comes in)
4) The MWs don't have a speaker, but they do have a powerful vibrator inside - it's pretty hard to miss it when it does vibrate, and the app lets you configure different vibration patterns for different notifications, so you can know what sort of message it was without even looking.
Let me know if you've got any other questions!

MW has some very good stuff, I'm quite familiar with it.
Pity -both for MW and SW- is the poor pixel density. I believe MOTO has a much better display.
B/W displays appear sub-optimal to me and definitely not the direction the market wants to move toward.
Also, beyond the immediate 'at-a-glance' notification, can you read within the watch the full email or notification in MW? This is also a key element.
One more topic I missed on SW is that once connection is lost we need not only vibration but some on-screen display, like a warning sign or something. This feature prevented me from leaving behind a SGSII in a bar when I was using my ancient MBW-150. Vibration won't typically suffice.
I survive 2.5 full days with heavy notification traffic with my SW. How long you stay unplugged with MW under heavy traffic?
Thanks for the good discussion.

general forceps said:
Also, beyond the immediate 'at-a-glance' notification, can you read within the watch the full email or notification in MW? This is also a key element.
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As I said, the current software doesn't support that, but it's something I'm planning on adding.
SMS messages currently support this - you can page through a long message, then dismiss it when you're done, so I just need to add the code to pull out (and strip html from) the body text - I know for certain that it's easily possible using k-9 mail, gmail will probably need work to talk to google's mail server directly to get the message text.
general forceps said:
One more topic I missed on SW is that once connection is lost we need not only vibration but some on-screen display, like a warning sign or something. This feature prevented me from leaving behind a SGSII in a bar when I was using my ancient MBW-150. Vibration won't typically suffice.
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Yes, it'll display a "No watch connection" icon in the top right of the time display, which is pretty hard to miss!
general forceps said:
I survive 2.5 full days with heavy notification traffic with my SW. How long you stay unplugged with MW under heavy traffic?
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I tend to get 2 or 3 days, depending on what I'm doing - 3 days for medium traffic, 2 for heavy traffic (usually when I'm developing features, so pushing lots of data to the watch)
3 days = Taken off the charger on Monday morning, needs to go back on the charger Wednesday evening before I go to bed.
I could probably get much longer battery life if I manually turned bt off each night, and back in the morning, but I like having my watch vibrate in the morning when the alarm goes off! Perhaps adding a "bt sleep" mode to the firmware would be a good addition.

How long does your battery last on the Sony Smartwatch if you keep the small digital clock on at all times?
I've had my watch a little over a week and haven't been able to make it through the day yet even with minimal notifications. The battery life has been very disappointing.

@benjymous:
I forgot to note that I shut it down when I go to sleep. In the morning I turn it on with no pairing issues, so we'd be looking at 18h/day actual uptime, for a total of say 45h per charge. Not stellar by any means.
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It didn't even cross my mind to have the screen on full-time. It is obvious you won't make it tremendously far (I think the bat has a capacity below 130). No way. I push the button to get the time, I can live with this.
I also need to report that the glass is far from scratchproof. That's something that really pisses people off. Next HW release should DEFINITELY include at least Gorilla Glass and certainly a bigger battery. The thickness of the plastic clip and the strap can be each reduced by about half a millimeter that combined gives you 1mm that they should invest in a bigger capacity batt.
And obviously, a standard usb port.
Please keep ideas coming folks, thanks.

And this is how the notification queue should look like:
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/767/inPulse_SmartWatch-2.jpg

I'm having exact same problem - Battery lasts barely 8-10 hrs. Do we need replacement watches?

general forceps said:
And this is how the notification queue should look like:
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Looks like chinese product

Received mine today

The software seems a bit flaky. New SMS does not display message details......still investigating
I eventually managed to download music tracks to the device and they played okay over bluetooth headphones. Not tried the GPS yet
Any questions I will try and answer

tmn0004676 said:
The software seems a bit flaky. New SMS does not display message details......still investigating
I eventually managed to download music tracks to the device and they played okay over bluetooth headphones. Not tried the GPS yet
Any questions I will try and answer
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Can you run my tracks via the start on the phone (offline mode) that used watch GPS and let me know if the music stutters? It seems to happen when bluetooth and internal GPS are enabled...im on 2nd device and same issue
download my tracks to phone, then go to apps on watch and run that app, then start music via watch memory

gs05 said:
Can you run my tracks via the start on the phone (offline mode) that used watch GPS and let me know if the music stutters? It seems to happen when bluetooth and internal GPS are enabled...im on 2nd device and same issue
download my tracks to phone, then go to apps on watch and run that app, then start music via watch memory
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please could you provide more detailed instructions
thanks

tmn0004676 said:
please could you provide more detailed instructions
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Sure...
Download My tracks (google) from play store. Get google music (if not already) and download some songs to your watch...do this by downloading to your phone first (offline) and then selecting in music options to download to android wear. Let a few songs load over.
Go outside. Go to the watch (make sure far from phone and disconnected). Start tracks with the start menu. Then do start on that
Now do play music from the same menu as start.
Go for a jog

OP's can help us all (please; this is a suggestion not a criticism) by listing what they are pairing with :good:
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I've had mine since Friday. Have you found any way use the running apps without the phone and use the watch gps? I bought this to replace my motoactiv but stava and runtastic won't allow me to start a run without being connected to the phone.

oddoreven said:
I've had mine since Friday. Have you found any way use the running apps without the phone and use the watch gps? I bought this to replace my motoactiv but stava and runtastic won't allow me to start a run without being connected to the phone.
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I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.

runningwarrior08 said:
I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.
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Download google tracks to your phone.
It will work in offline mode and give you distance and time via the watch GPS. Start it via the start menu and select tracks. The running apps are still through the phone currently.

gs05 said:
Download google tracks to your phone.
It will work in offline mode and give you distance and time via the watch GPS. Start it via the start menu and select tracks. The running apps are still through the phone currently.
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It didn't work for me yesterday when I tried during my run. Started it from the watch when I was not with my phone and the distance just stayed at 0

runningwarrior08 said:
It didn't work for me yesterday when I tried during my run. Started it from the watch when I was not with my phone and the distance just stayed at 0
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Give it a minute and you should see a little location google stake on the top left. It worked for me and i could see my entire mapped run via tracks afterwards. Make you start it, give it a minute and then try. It took mine about .15 of a mile to kick in

You can also go into GPS test under Settings- Developer options - manufacturer - GPS and press start to check time to first fix.

runningwarrior08 said:
I have the same problem.. Nothing uses the watch GPS that I have found. Also is your screen yellow when it should be white. Mine is terrible.
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I just got mine today. The screen definitly has a yellow tint to it. Can othere people please test this?
Did you replace it?

bookat said:
I just got mine today. The screen definitly has a yellow tint to it. Can othere people please test this?
Did you replace it?
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I don't think this is a defect. It is the trade-off for the tft tech making it fully daylight readable. Mine also has this. I'm torn on the trade-off, on the one hand, it is leagues better than even the moto 360 for reading in direct sunlight (it's almost like a mirasol display), but on the other, the 360's screen was very pretty. I'm leaning towards being "ok" with it, since I don't think I'm going to watch any movies on my wrist, but I will probably want to deal with notifications in unideal lighting, but it is definitely an adjustment.

I don't mind the yellow. Its actually not that bad and the screen is definitely visible in the daylight. I am really liking this watch alongside with my Microsoft Band.

legend921 said:
I don't mind the yellow. Its actually not that bad and the screen is definitely visible in the daylight. I am really liking this watch alongside with my Microsoft Band.
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How is the health tracking on the band? This watch has some great features, but none of the android wear watches do true health tracking very well yet, and even if it had a heart rate monitor, I've been unimpressed with the ones on the 360 and gear live, so I've been thinking about adding something purely for the health side of things.

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How is the health tracking on the band? This watch has some great features, but none of the android wear watches do true health tracking very well yet, and even if it had a heart rate monitor, I've been unimpressed with the ones on the 360 and gear live, so I've been thinking about adding something purely for the health side of things.
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The band is great. Its not big and it definitely doe fitness better than the Android Wear. The 24/7 heart rate tracker gives you a better count on how many calories burned, and the only feature that you lose when not using the Windows Phone is Cortana. When I was using it on the 5K run that I had participated with the GPS on, the band was able to tell me where I was running fast and where I had slowed down and so fourth and it was very accurate along side the path that I was running on. The 5K reported that the run was 3.2 miles which was pretty dead on to the 5K. The pedometer is more accurate too compared to the android wear since mine will count steps even if I am pushing a shopping cart so all in all I really like the band for fitness with smartwatch duties as secondary. I can read everything just fine from the notifications when not using the Smartwatch 3, but at least now I can let the band do all my fitness stuff when I go on the run and have the Sony Smartwatch stream my music for me to run with. That way I don't have to carry the phone.

Thanks for confirming this. I guess there is no perfect solution out there for smart watches yet. The screen does bother me some times specially because i had the moto 360 and returned it. but that watch had its own set of problems.
guess i will be keeping this.

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As for on device tracking I hope that Sony and others will include support for just released google fit api on device.

My screen shows whites correctly. I don't see the yellowish problem here.

My screen is unimpressive (pale, low contrast) but OK. A colour tinge is normal for a transflective display, and it depends on the colour of the light you shine on it...the nice thing is that I can read it without the backlight in most situations.
What bothers me is, that some things that work on Google Now on my phone don't work via Wear Voice input. Setting alarms for example. It works fine on my phone, but not on my SW3. Why? On the Watch it always understands, but then just throws up a web search card...
Also, the "wrist flick" to activate the display is a bit weird. It works about 1 time out of ten, but if I just move my arm around randomly, then I often trigger the backlight. That's also a bit weird. I'm trying to get used to it. With my Pebble, I mostly just glanced at the watch without moving it in front of my eyes. That worked fine. I had actually turned off the auto-backlight on Pebble and would probably do the same on the SW3 if I could.
The most annoying thing is the weak vibration of the SW3. With my Pebble, I feel (and hear) the vibrating alert, with the SW3 I miss it frequently even when I'm not moving around. That's unacceptable and might be the main reason for sending it back. I haven't decided yet.
Is there a way to increase the vibration intensity and length? That would be cool.
And one last thing, not directly related to the SW3...On my Pebble I get notifications for every email in my Gmail account, apart from SPAM. With Android Wear, I think not all labels are signalled. How do I change that? I tried to set it up in Gmail, but I think I still don't get all emails announced on the SW...

[Q] How do I prevent the SAME notifications from constantly showing up?

So I did a bunch of searching and either I am in the wrong place, or no one else seems to have this problem, but I am seeing the same notifications showing up on my Moto 360 over and over even after I dismiss them. For example, I will get the Google Now scores for sports events (some for teams I couldn't care less about) popping up over and over and over again even after I swipe them away. They are not even real notifications on my phone - so not sure why they are popping up in the first place. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

You have to go into Google Now on your phone and configure the card settings there. Should be options to no longer see cards you're not interested in, or tweak their content. Otherwise it will periodically update phone & watch with cards - this is just how the service works.
Personally I leave it turned off completely as the benefits are meagre vs demands it makes on phone & watch power. There are more efficient ways of keeping yourself updated on the info you need when you need it, IMHO.

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You have to go into Google Now on your phone and configure the card settings there. Should be options to no longer see cards you're not interested in, or tweak their content. Otherwise it will periodically update phone & watch with cards - this is just how the service works.
Personally I leave it turned off completely as the benefits are meagre vs demands it makes on phone & watch power. There are more efficient ways of keeping yourself updated on the info you need when you need it, IMHO.
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Thanks for the reply. So even if I dismiss the notification on the watch, and there is NO notification in the notification tray on the phone, it is expected that I still constantly receive card notifications on the watch? That seems broken to me...

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Thanks for the reply. So even if I dismiss the notification on the watch, and there is NO notification in the notification tray on the phone, it is expected that I still constantly receive card notifications on the watch? That seems broken to me...
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next time i notification comes up...leave it alone and go to google now on your phone.. look for that card and there should be an option to no longer show this notification..

bustanut666 said:
next time i notification comes up...leave it alone and go to google now on your phone.. look for that card and there should be an option to no longer show this notification..
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Ok, I got that, but again, my problem is not that the initial notification shows up, it's that once I swipe it away it keeps coming back. I suppose that's an issue with Google Now though and not the watch.

You are not alone.
I'm having the same issue.
Moto 360 4.4W.2 - Wear Mini Launcher
Moto X (2013) 4.4.4 - Google Now Launcher.
I'm almost certain that those launchers are doing it. Days ago I had a friends's birthday notification poping over and over again, it would back to my watch face in like 5s after I had it dismissed, when i remove wear mini launcher all that stoped.
Today I installed it again, just for sake of testing, since is a very helpful software. The problem started again, but now with a amazon delivery notification, so im uninstalling it.

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I'm having the same issue.
Moto 360 4.4W.2 - Wear Mini Launcher
Moto X (2013) 4.4.4 - Google Now Launcher.
I'm almost certain that those launchers are doing it. Days ago I had a friends's birthday notification poping over and over again, it would back to my watch face in like 5s after I had it dismissed, when i remove wear mini launcher all that stoped.
Today I installed it again, just for sake of testing, since is a very helpful software. The problem started again, but now with a amazon delivery notification, so im uninstalling it.
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Sorry to rehash an old topic, but I'm having the same issue..
The card in question is to do with sport, and I do want to see the card so turning off isn't an option, but when I swipe it away I don't want it to come back!
Anyone found a solution?

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Sorry to rehash an old topic, but I'm having the same issue..
The card in question is to do with sport, and I do want to see the card so turning off isn't an option, but when I swipe it away I don't want it to come back!
Anyone found a solution?
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Nope, it's the way Google Now does sport cards -- if a game is in progress, it sends you constant updates. Even if you swipe the update away, the next time anything changes, it'll just reappear, until the game / match is over (once you swipe away the card for a completed game it stays away, for me). I wish Now was more customizable.

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Nope, it's the way Google Now does sport cards -- if a game is in progress, it sends you constant updates. Even if you swipe the update away, the next time anything changes, it'll just reappear, until the game / match is over (once you swipe away the card for a completed game it stays away, for me). I wish Now was more customizable.
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I don't mind if the game is still on, that makes complete sense, this is after the game...

Tripledrop said:
I don't mind if the game is still on, that makes complete sense, this is after the game...
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Actually having exactly the same problem and it is specifically with sports cards. LG G3 (Verizon) 5.1 and G Watch R. I'll swipe a sports card away (last game score, next game time, etc.) and it will be back within a few minutes. Very irritating.

1.4 Update- What's New?

Guys who have sideloaded this, can you please tell what seems changed and what's new so that we can jot down a Changelog here?
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The charging screen is now set to 12 or 24hr depending on the system time.

The watch makes noises now
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My vibrations SEEM stronger, or is that just me wanting them to be?

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My vibrations SEEM stronger, or is that just me wanting them to be?
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thats what she said...

Is there any keyboard for writing message now?
Send from my Nexus 6p AOSP build with f2fs support.. feel the speed

No keyboard. Device slightly laggy, bluetooth connection drops at times. After several restarts of watch and HP, slightly smooth.

Even with always on display set to on, the watch face will periodically go black. Apparently because of doze... I would prefer to exclude the ambient watch face from this feature as I do not believe it is unreasonable to expect my watch face to be always on when it is set to always on.
If tilt to wake is not active you will need to touch the screen or press the crown button to bring the watch face back. Because of this I have now enabled tilt to wake so I only need to tilt my wrist to bring the watch face back when this occurs.

Landon4444 said:
Even with always on display set to on, the watch face will periodically go black. Apparently because of doze... I would prefer to exclude the ambient watch face from this feature as I do not believe it is unreasonable to expect my watch face to be always on when it is set to always on.
If tilt to wake is not active you will need to touch the screen or press the crown button to bring the watch face back. Because of this I have now enabled tilt to wake so I only need to tilt my wrist to bring the watch face back when this occurs.
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Doesn't doze only activate if your watch is stationary? How often do you keep your wrist in the same position? or am I wrong? I want to keep showing off my watch faces! Haha

UrbanLagoon said:
Doesn't doze only activate if your watch is stationary? How often do you keep your wrist in the same position? or am I wrong? I want to keep showing off my watch faces! Haha
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I believe it may have to do with the orientation of the watch. I read a related discussion on Reddit which suggested the screen off being activated by some period of time where the watch face is not facing the wearer.
This happened to me 4 times yesterday with tilt to wake off after the update. Each time I noticed it I had not been inactive although I was not continuously looking at my watch. The most disturbing incident was when I was doing dishes and cleaning up around the house after which I sat down to watch TV and noticed my watch face was off.
I finally turned the tilt to wake option back on and I have not noticed this since. When I wore my Gear Live as my daily watch I always left tilt to wake on but since getting the Huawei Watch I feel as though it is a bit more sensitive and tilt to wake activates more frequently. This was having a negative impact on battery life for me which is why I turned it off.
I will update if I notice it going off with tilt to wake active.

the time it takes to wake the screen is still too long for my taste. I raise my wrist so the watch faces me but it still takes over 1 second until it wakes up.

Landon4444 said:
I believe it may have to do with the orientation of the watch. I read a related discussion on Reddit which suggested the screen off being activated by some period of time where the watch face is not facing the wearer.
This happened to me 4 times yesterday with tilt to wake off after the update. Each time I noticed it I had not been inactive although I was not continuously looking at my watch. The most disturbing incident was when I was doing dishes and cleaning up around the house after which I sat down to watch TV and noticed my watch face was off.
I finally turned the tilt to wake option back on and I have not noticed this since. When I wore my Gear Live as my daily watch I always left tilt to wake on but since getting the Huawei Watch I feel as though it is a bit more sensitive and tilt to wake activates more frequently. This was having a negative impact on battery life for me which is why I turned it off.
I will update if I notice it going off with tilt to wake active.
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Yeah.. I usually keep gestures off. Waste of battery to keep it on... But I guess I have to leave it on.. Today is my first day with 1.4 so let's see how it goes..

The speaker and phone works surprisingly well. Have any of you discovered any apps that use the audio? For example, glide is pretty cool because you can watch video messages on your watch and respond with an audio message. I am disappointed that Google now doesn't have the audio voice response.

The speaker is actually better than I expected. There is a youtube app in the play store that lets you play videos on the watch. I messed about with it last night, but the connection is pretty slow over bluetooth. The sound was surprisingly good however.

JeffroTull said:
The speaker and phone works surprisingly well. Have any of you discovered any apps that use the audio? For example, glide is pretty cool because you can watch video messages on your watch and respond with an audio message. I am disappointed that Google now doesn't have the audio voice response.
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No way....lmao that's the reason speaker should work (along with calls ) you telling me you driving and ask Google a question only for it to reply back with no voice input? Can anyone else confirm this stupid nonsense ?
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Yeah I expected Google now to use the speaker. It's stupid that it doesn't.

Google maps isn't showing a map for me anymore. Anyone else?

The music app on watch doesn't work anyone has the same problem ?
And how can you send songs to the watch?

You are now able to manually adjust date/time and time zone. This was actually the most important new feature for me and something that should have been available from the start. Android Wear is getting better but it still has a long way to go.

It has taken me almost a week to figure out how to get and make calls on it.
I had to be Johnny on the spot, as many times I only get 2 rings, and mine goes to voice mail. I see caller ID names or numbers only about 25% of the time. The watch seems to have about a 1-2 second lag, where it rings, but doesn't tell you WHO is calling, or a number.
I received a call today on it, driving down the road. Swiped right, answered it, and was able to talk to my son on it, for a bit. My impressions, you can hear ok, if the windows are rolled up, and your stereo is off/turned down. I would like it 2x as loud, maybe software will eventually get it there, but if there is much ambient noise, it's tough for me to hear.
That being said I have old, grew up on a farm ears, road a tractor, shot guns, etc, so my hearing is probably a 3/10 compared to you nubes. You may find the volume is fine, maybe even loud.
I had to download and install a LOUD ringtone, just so I could hear it ring. It was a longer than normal process involving Wear Media. I had to download wear media 1.4.6 from the developer to work with a Nexus 6P. It works, but didn't like my ring tone size of 1.2mb, it choked on that, but it would load 100-200KB no problems if they were mp3
I used it walking around the park last night. Same issue, very much traffic, and the wind blowing, and it's too hard for me to hear it. If you got off the main traffic, and out of the wind, it was just "loud enough".
I'm curious what your user experience has been, and whether you have stumbled across anything interesting about how your use has been?

Samsung Galaxy watch active with pixel 3 xl

I got my wife the Samsung Galaxy active watch and it paired just fine with her Pixel 3 XL. The watch is missing a messaging app. She is able to get messaging notifications and reply to messages, but can't access previous messages because the little blue messaging app is nowhere on her watch. I tried to got to app store on the watch but couldn't find anything to download. All reviews on YouTube show that app right from the start. Am I missing something? Is this an option only for Galaxy phones? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I got my wife the Samsung Galaxy active watch and it paired just fine with her Pixel 3 XL. The watch is missing a messaging app. She is able to get messaging notifications and reply to messages, but can't access previous messages because the little blue messaging app is nowhere on her watch. I tried to got to app store on the watch but couldn't find anything to download. All reviews on YouTube show that app right from the start. Am I missing something? Is this an option only for Galaxy phones? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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You won't be able to see the messages unless you you a Samsung phone (which has the messages app), but when you get a text message, it will show on the watch, you can reply back to it and see previous messages. Make sure you have "messages" notifications enabled from the wear app. I am using the galaxy watch with the pixel 3 xl.

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You won't be able to see the messages unless you you a Samsung phone (which has the messages app), but when you get a text message, it will show on the watch, you can reply back to it and see previous messages. Make sure you have "messages" notifications enabled from the wear app. I am using the galaxy watch with the pixel 3 xl.
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Hey dude, I don't have one but am considering switching to it from my Fossil Sport because the Sport battery sucks. I have a couple questions for you since you're the only person who said they have one that I found! If you don't mind:
1. What's your battery life like?
2. I use the Nike Run app... if you open it on your phone will you geet any view of it on the Samsung watch?? That is why I originally got the Fossil
3. Do you think the Active is just as good with your Pixel as it would be with a Samsung? I have an S10+ now but I change phones like most people change underwear lol.
4. Anything else you can tell me to help me make my final decision..
PLEASE!!!! lol. thanks man.

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Hey dude, I don't have one but am considering switching to it from my Fossil Sport because the Sport battery sucks. I have a couple questions for you since you're the only person who said they have one that I found! If you don't mind:
1. What's your battery life like?
2. I use the Nike Run app... if you open it on your phone will you geet any view of it on the Samsung watch?? That is why I originally got the Fossil
3. Do you think the Active is just as good with your Pixel as it would be with a Samsung? I have an S10+ now but I change phones like most people change underwear lol.
4. Anything else you can tell me to help me make my final decision..
PLEASE!!!! lol. thanks man.
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Hey there,
1.Battery life in my case is like around 15% usage a day which is great given, the idea of the tizen is very different than wear os. sarcastically, I got the fossil sport as well, and I have been using that over the galaxy watch. The galaxy sport would probably have a great battery as well, maybe a little less than the galaxy watch.
2. I have not seen the nike app on the galaxy watch, however, I have used s-health. I was able to get decent tracking but without a map gps, you'd be limited to mapmyrun a few other ones, I honestly only used shealth since I found third party apps to drain the battery much much much quicker.
3. Yes, going with the active would be a solid choice, again, then only thing you won't get is the ability to recall text messages at any time, but you'd be able to view them and reply back to them as notifications or as they come in + you can compose a new one. Keep in mind that it doesn't have the real bixby, it is s-voice, which is extreme trash.
I also change phones like underwear "JOD"... It even works on the iphone but that's different "you won't be able to reply to notifications or messages, just view them"
3.a -- there is an app called pulse sms I believe or something like that that would allow you to sync text messages on the watch, view them, do anything you'd want with them, just will drain your phone's battery and watch like crazy.
4. Anything to help you. Well, if you will hold onto your android wear, it is nice to have both. I went back to android wear "with the faults of it and the bad battery life over the galaxy wear stuff", for me:
Pros of the galaxy wear:
-Great battery life.
-Consistent performance "once in a while it would lag but not that much"
Cons:
-Using it as a smart device is just not great.
-It is s-voice branded bixby which is just bad, like really frustrating to use, to the point that you'd find yourself typing on the t9 keyboard they provide rather than talking to that piece of S.
-App support sucks. Forexample, I am grocery shopping and I made a list in google keep, and I don't want to have my phone out, you can't pull google keep on the watch like android wear. Also, other apps like spotify is more frustrating to use than good.
-No google assistant. I use smart home stuff, and unless you have the samsung hub, you cannot control your stuff, wink, wemo ifftt, etc. That ecosystem is still very very very poor compared to android wear.
Overall: If you are looking for a watch with great battery life, and the ability to see and minimally reply back to text messages while using stock-ish apps like s-health and you're okay with a very limited app and community support, go for it.
If you're looking to have more apps, watch-faces, voice assistant, more fitness apps, you're in the google eco-system, stay with wear OS because it can be a very unpleasant experience after the honey-moon period.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.

Thanks that exactly what I needed. Today my Fossil battery life was way better so maybe it just had to bake in after the recent update. I went with Android WearOS originally because of the app support and potential. I'm hoping the battery continues to get better. I was struggling to make a day without a bit of a charge, however I'm on my final walk with the dog today and it's still around 30% after a 7am wake up. I couldn't justify both watches but I'm jealous you have em lol

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Thanks that exactly what I needed. Today my Fossil battery life was way better so maybe it just had to bake in after the recent update. I went with Android WearOS originally because of the app support and potential. I'm hoping the battery continues to get better. I was struggling to make a day without a bit of a charge, however I'm on my final walk with the dog today and it's still around 30% after a 7am wake up. I couldn't justify both watches but I'm jealous you have em lol
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I hear you, one was a gift and I wanted the fossil and it was on discount so picked it up.