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[Q] About updating and rooting

I am new to the anrdoid scene(One X is my first Android after years of BB and iOS devices) and have a few questions. My One X is currently on OTA 1.28.720.10 I see that most of the roms are 1.29.401.11 based. Will i need to update to those versions before rooting and flashing those ROMs. I would've updatedto 1.29.401.11 if i could but when I checked for new updates on the phone I was told that no new updates were available(i am guessing this has something to do with my region, which is india)
complete noob here, i wanted to not be such a Pain in the A** but i searched the forum to no avail....

boobinator said:
Am i new to the anrdoid scene(One X is my first Android after years of BB and iOS devices) and have a few questions. My One X is currently on OTA 1.28.720.10 I see that most of the roms are 1.29.401.11 based. Will i need to update to those versions before rooting and flashing those ROMs. I would've updatedto 1.29.401.11 if i could but i check for new updates on the phone it tells me that no new updates are available(i am guessing this has something to do with my region, which is india)
complete noob here, i wanted to not be such a Pain in the A** but i searched the forum to no avail....
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no you do not need to update to latest firmware for you to be able to flash the latest custom roms. just backup your current rom and flash the one that you like and that is it follow the guide on how to install the rom which should be on the OP of the rom of your choice and your good to go

Goku80 said:
no you do not need to update to latest firmware for you to be able to flash the latest custom roms. just backup your current rom and flash the one that you like and that is it follow the guide on how to install the rom which should be on the OP of the rom of your choice and your good to go
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Thats is what i thought, but i was reading through a couple of threads over in the HOX android dev section and ran into this post by JDR0ID(whose Exodized rom I plan to flash) -
Ok, i think i know why i have so much battery drain lol!!! im 1.26 firmware (0.43 HBOOT) on a 1.29 rom lol!?!?! I have never updated firmware and ive just noticed.!!!! im going to have to revert to stock to update right?
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link to said post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26473063#post26473063
They then proceed to talk about HBOOT version, and i have no idea what that is. So does that mean that if I dont update to 1.29 based rom I will not get the latest HBOOT version and I will have issues with his rom?

boobinator said:
Thats is what i thought, but i was reading through a couple of threads over in the HOX android dev section and ran into this post by JDR0ID(whose Exodized rom I plan to flash) -
link to said post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26473063#post26473063
They then proceed to talk about HBOOT version, and i have no idea what that is. So does that mean that if I dont update to 1.29 based rom I will not get the latest HBOOT version and I will have issues with his rom?
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right say you are on 1.28 firmware and you want to flash 1.29 custom rom you will not be fully updated. you can do that by RUU or wait for an OTA update from your carrier. i was on 1.28 firmware but still flashed the latest custom roms. why you ask. cause i just love the roms..you do not get fully updated due to the s-off issues but i never had issues so i do not see why you should either
all honesty i do not see any difference having an old HBOOT or an old one. what i know is that when changing roms you do get the latest radio. if you go into settings and about phone and check baseband version you will see you will be on the latest one.. that is the most important bit for me. hope that clears things up
EDIT: what i normally do is this. before i flashed a custom rom i backed up my stock rom. then whenever there was an update i just restored my backup rom and installed the OTA. once i done that and was updated i flashed the custom rom again ..and that is it..i had the latest hboot and all was rosy. you can flash an RUU but i never tried that so i can not help on that..but there are a few threads in the development section were you can read about

How do I check my firmware?

Hey, new to the mod scene. I got a HTC M8 recently with that's rooted, unlocked bootloader and S-On.
Currently running Elix-R 1.21, a GPE ROM. Was browsing some other custom ROMs and some recommend a firmware upgrade.
My question is, how do I check what firmware I have, and can I upgrade my firmware if I recover back to stock and use OTA ? I tried googling the answer, checking the FAQ thread here and searched for a few pages with the keyword firmware but couldn't find the answer. (I have found the thread on how to flash firmware though)
History:
- Had stock for a while, updated through OTA around...August? I think? I can't remember which update

Artelier said:
Hey, new to the mod scene. I got a HTC M8 recently with that's rooted, unlocked bootloader and S-On.
Currently running Elix-R 1.21, a GPE ROM. Was browsing some other custom ROMs and some recommend a firmware upgrade.
My question is, how do I check what firmware I have, and can I upgrade my firmware if I recover back to stock and use OTA ? I tried googling the answer, checking the FAQ thread here and searched for a few pages with the keyword firmware but couldn't find the answer. (I have found the thread on how to flash firmware though)
History:
- Had stock for a while, updated through OTA around...August? I think? I can't remember which update
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Check the below thread, has step by step guide on how to check firmware version in fastboot. There are other threads/guides on how to return to stock to update firmware, just have to search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727

Thanks! I tried that but I think because I'm on a modified ROM, it doesn't actually show my firmware where it's supposed to be.
However, if that's the only way, then when I think I need to upgrade my firmware I'll flash stock and check it first.

Boot into fastboot. It's somewhere on the text if i'm not mistaken

Artelier said:
Thanks! I tried that but I think because I'm on a modified ROM, it doesn't actually show my firmware where it's supposed to be.
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Firmware doesn't really have a "number". We often refer to the software OS version (1.x, 2.x) the firmware deployed with for lack of anything better to go by. By checking main or software number, its just telling you the version of the ROM. You need to look at the hboot and radio baseband numbers.
If you are on hboot 3.18 and baseband 1.19x, you are on the 2.x base firmware. If those numbers are lower, you are on 1.x firmware.
Also be aware that Android 4.4.4 (software 3.x) is starting to roll out now. So you may want to return to stock ROM and recovery to get this OTA and the absolute newest firmware, anyway.

[Q] firmware / S-off / Lollipop

Can someone make things clear for me ?
am S-on , firewater doesnt work
my country doesnt support payments for the sunshine
( so i cant get S-off )
so am Stuck on 4.4.3 Rom
i cant update to anything because i need a new firmware
so HTC sold us the device , and anyone who wants to update should go and get S-off ??? RIDICULOS !
i want to get an Ota and update without doing things on my COmputer
that should be okay for the latest htc device right ?

skywalker_fakih said:
i want to get an Ota and update without doing things on my COmputer
that should be okay for the latest htc device right ?
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If there is an OTA on your version, than yes you can update that way, which will also update your firmware.
Stock ROM and stock recovery are required to OTA.

redpoint73 said:
If there is an OTA on your version, than yes you can update that way, which will also update your firmware.
Stock ROM and stock recovery are required to OTA.
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Someone said last time that he upgraded via OTA and lost wifi
just like what happens when i flash 4.4.4 rom while S-On

skywalker_fakih said:
Someone said last time that he upgraded via OTA and lost wifi
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A random bug, and isolated incidents (I've seen a couple of similar reports as well).
skywalker_fakih said:
just like what happens when i flash 4.4.4 rom while S-On
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This on the other hand, I can virtually guarantee will break your WiFi.

redpoint73 said:
A random bug, and isolated incidents (I've seen a couple of similar reports as well).
This on the other hand, I can virtually guarantee will break your WiFi.
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So i should restore my stock 4.4.2 , and ugrade to 4.4.3 with stock recovery
after that i can flash 4.4.4 custom rom ?
or i should upgrade to 4.4.4 Ota also ?
will upgrading Ota make me capable of flashing 4.4.4 custom roms ?

skywalker_fakih said:
So i should restore my stock 4.4.2 , and ugrade to 4.4.3 with stock recovery
after that i can flash 4.4.4 custom rom ?
or i should upgrade to 4.4.4 Ota also ?
will upgrading Ota make me capable of flashing 4.4.4 custom roms ?
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Flashing a 4.4.4 ROM while on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 firmware will result in broken WiFi (and possibly very long boot times as well). You need to be on 4.4.4 firmware, its simple as that.
Return to stock, OTA to 4.4.3, than OTA to 4.4.4. This will put you on the current firmware.
Or just s-off. I think someone on here mentioned that the sunshine devs will accept gift cards as payment for locations that don't support PayPal.

Updating for Lollipop

I there people,
I have my device s-on mode but it run ICS and now i want to update to the new android version but mine isn´t s-off and now i when i try to put any rom (already test with Insertcoin and Viper rom) get always some issues in wi-fi and stuff like that. Is there any way to install lollipop rom without s-off or is there a simple way to do it?
Regards

This phone never had ICS (Android 4.0), it released with KitKat (Android 4.4), is that what you mean? You have an M8, right (not another phone)?
If you do have the M8, depending which carrier/region version, most can be returned to stock ROM, stock recovery, than you can OTA to update your firmware (which will then allow current custom ROMs to work correctly). Or some variants have RUU, so you can relock the bootloader and RUU to Lollipop to update the firmware.

Hi there,
Sorry, is the Kitka version that i mean. i was using the Insertcoin 4.4 and now install the viper version of lollipop and get issues in wi-fi....
Regards
redpoint73 said:
This phone never had ICS (Android 4.0), it released with KitKat (Android 4.4), is that what you mean? You have an M8, right (not another phone)?
If you do have the M8, depending which carrier/region version, most can be returned to stock ROM, stock recovery, than you can OTA to update your firmware (which will then allow current custom ROMs to work correctly). Or some variants have RUU, so you can relock the bootloader and RUU to Lollipop to update the firmware.
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prootc1 said:
Hi there,
Sorry, is the Kitka version that i mean. i was using the Insertcoin 4.4 and now install the viper version of lollipop and get issues in wi-fi....
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And you will encounter that issue on every single Sense Lollipop ROM until you update your firmware by one of the methods I suggested in my previous post.

Update

I am a newbie from Sweden. Got help with rooting and installing twrp v2.7.0.2
Want to change my android 4.4.3 to 6.
What about firmwere?Does it come together with a new rom. Think I want Wolla or LeeDroid.
Please help!

Take your time and read..
Every rom has instruction on what minimum firmware is required.
Leeroid is great, you wil need to be on 6.xxx firmware for best results..

storen said:
What about firmwere?Does it come together with a new rom.
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No, firmware is never flashed with a ROM. And 4.4.3 firmware is too old to run any of the current ROMs. So you need to update firmware.
It would have been best to update firmware while still stock, as you will need to go back stock in order to OTA and update firmware. That is, unless there is an RUU for your version M8, in which case you still need to relock bootloader RUU to update, then unlock again, and flash TWRP again.