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The title is basically the question, im fed up of alot of programs auto opening on my android phone, it takes battery and is slightly annoying receiving notifications off apps i dont really care about such as the NFL game tells me about small things in the NFL, im in the UK, i dont care.
If you argue that it doesnt take alot of battery currently have 117mb free ram, (2 secs later) killed all my selected apps now have 201mb free so im using 80mb of ram on apps im not using. Ive made 2 or 3 phone calls today no more than 30 mins long altogether and ive lost 55% of my battery since about midday, which is when i unplugged the phone.
And I think all these apps are the problem so how can I stop them from auto opening, please help
Search the market for startup cleaner
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yusuo said:
If you argue that it doesnt take alot of battery currently have 117mb free ram
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More free RAM doesn't really equate to longer battery life or lower power consumption.
Better search for auto starts, this asp shows you the conditions an asp can turn back on and you can bin it off, Facebook for example had like 8 conditions, from full to medium battery life, on charge and change in network....... Use it
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More free RAM doesn't really equate to longer battery life or lower power consumption.
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There's still no reason for most of this apps to use RAM. Apps like facebook and skype shouldn't be actice without user permission. Without login they are complete useless.
I'll try Startup Cleaner, thx.
It's how android works and what RAM is for. There is always a reason.
Sure if someone doesn't use Facebook, it should be uninstallable, but its not and its not causing any harm
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The problem isn't that apps start when I turn on the phone its that even after i use task manager to close they keep reopening and use over 100mb of ram, earlier I checked and only had 78mb ram available.
This must have an effect on battery to some degree i want to kinda ban certain apps from running in the background unless i specifically tell them to
RAM doesn't use more power, the more its used, no.
You don't need a task killer. You do not need to obsess about RAM. Forget about RAM and enjoy your phone
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RAM doesn't use more power, the more its used, no.
You don't need a task killer. You do not need to obsess about RAM. Forget about RAM and enjoy your phone
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Thanks for you reply but its not really an answer its more of a contradiction, what I was asking is how to I stop apps from auto starting and eating up RAM, regardless of how long the phones been on
...and I'm telling you its a pointless, unecessary waste of time. Also it is not possible. Autostarts as already mentioned is the closest you'll get
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I also turned off the autorun permissions of a lot of apps, for 2 reasons: 1) a device that is smooth sooner after booting, using less cpu cycles/power. 2) preventing Sense from reloading due to RAM shortage and have smooth multitasking.
1) Android loads a bunch of apps to the RAM that have the autorun permission, until it thinks it is "enough" and useful to you. No matter how many apps you have installed, the amount of free RAM is always about the same, just the number of "unwanted" apps in the RAM differs. Removing the autorun on boot permissions prevents the loading of unnecessary apps that will immediately be removed from the RAM the moment you start the browser/a game, saving cpu cycles=power. So for me there is no point in loading them in the first place, because I am never going to use them (right away). I want the apps that don't to any syncing loaded on demand.
2) I hate slow multitasking and I hate it even more when Sense reloads because it got kicked out of the RAM after each time I press HOME.
I use 3G Watchdog (~12MB RAM), Unlock with Wifi (~8MB), Whatsapp (~15MB), Handcent SMS (~18MB), Droidstats (~13MB), Extended Controls (~12MB), Battery Monitor Widget Pro (~13MB). Okay, I maybe could delete some of them, but these app are "OK" to me, because I use them actively or just need a background service to operate normally.
With Gemini I disabled apps like Facebook, a screenshot tool (just load when I want to make a screenshot..), various public transport planning tools, etc from autostarting.
No joy moment: after using the Facebook app (market version), it may take up 50+ MB and it will not be closed when I start another RAM intensive app, because it is a high priority service. Result: Sense gets kicked out of the RAM. Or, when the situation is somewhat less critical: multitasking is as good as unusable: switching between apps makes them load over and over again, because app2 kicks app1 out of the RAM and vice versa, causing unnecessary lag. Therefore: when I am done with facebook, I close it, then STAY the hell closed It may only autostart when it receives a push message. In that case it is nice to have FB already in RAM when I tap the notification.
Why do even some games have background services, or the Engadget app, or .. , or... all eating precious RAM. And yes, I know, once IN the RAM they eat no battery, but they DO eat battery when the app loads itself back in the RAM when it thinks it needs to, after it got kicked the moment I decided to so something else.
Hmm, spent way too much time to try to explain my frustration Oh and by the way, I have a Legend, but the basics are the same of course.
Dwnload an app called internet commander from the market. It shuts off the internet when your screen turns off but still let's you get calls and texts. I've got my phone , rooted of course, clocked to 710 and my battery will last for days.
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I just re read your post, that won't help with apps but it will help save battery. And when you turn your screen on the internet kicks right on instantly. Good luck
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The problem isn't that apps start when I turn on the phone its that even after i use task manager to close they keep reopening and use over 100mb of ram, earlier I checked and only had 78mb ram available.
This must have an effect on battery to some degree i want to kinda ban certain apps from running in the background unless i specifically tell them to
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The guys here have already suggested you use a certain program from the Market. Have you tried it?
Regarding the whole RAM consumption issue, Android has its own built-in memory management system that ensures that there's always enough RAM for an app whenever it needs it, even if the memory manager shows like 40 MB free. Basically it "ejects" all background, unused apps, from memory making room for the foreground app which needs it most. If for some reason you need to fiddle with that, you can try using the V6 Supercharger script. I find it suitable for my needs but YMMV. It's completely reversible, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it just like that.
P.S. - I agree with rootSU, the ammount of free RAM has nothing to do with battery consumption. If you suspect that an app is draining your battery, check Android's battery statistics to find the culprit.
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Regarding the whole RAM consumption issue, Android has its own built-in memory management system that ensures that there's always enough RAM for an app whenever it needs it, even if the memory manager shows like 40 MB free. Basically it "ejects" all background, unused apps, from memory making room for the foreground app which needs it most. If for some reason you need to fiddle with that, you can try using the V6 Supercharger script. I find it suitable for my needs but YMMV. It's completely reversible, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it just like that.
P.S. - I agree with rootSU, the ammount of free RAM has nothing to do with battery consumption. If you suspect that an app is draining your battery, check Android's battery statistics to find the culprit.
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I respectfuly disagree. Android built in ram management is just silly. If I open xda app for example (it could actually be any app for that matter), reply to a few posts, read a few more and close it, why does it need to stay in ram? It reloads anyway when I run it again after I've closed it (using the back button or the actual exit command in the app itself). Why does the camera app need to stay in the background after I just shot a few photos and closed it? Because I may or may not use it again in some time? It's rediculous. And the whole theory that ram management doesn't require any power/cpu usage, how do you guys think all those apps get killed? Android will power?! No, kernel scans all running apps and kills the ones based on built in heuristics so it also reads them first. So that doesn't require any power/battery? Awesome if it's true! Although I wouldn't bet on that. And all this fuss just because you may or may not launch the same app sometime during the next day/week/month/year or it'll eventually get killed? Now that's just plain stupid. I get apps that need services like widgets, push notifications etc. but random apps like root explorer, xda app, titanium, youtube etc. which are opened specificly by the user shouldn't be in ram just for the sake of it after they're closed. I closed it, meaning I don't need it anymore. And I don't need the kernel to scan all apps and running services every time I launch an app so it could provide the free ram that app needs. Consumes cpu time, battery, i/o ... every piece of hardware actually just to free some ram that shouldn't be occupied in the first place. Every app that I ever opened on my phone got loaded almost instantly and that's just after phone had been booted. So after that it should stay in ram so I could open it in a blink of an eye instead of instantly? That's just funny.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud so don't flame me immediately. There probably are apsects of it that I didn't mention here or am not aware of. And I'm not saying that I'm right and you guys are wrong, I'm just saying what I know and think about this subject.
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PlayPetepp, while it might be true that the OS allocates (thus use) some resources to memory maintenance, the impact on battery life is negligible. In the Android OS, apps in memory are ordered according to priority and state, so the OS always knows which apps to kill first if it needs to make room in RAM, without much of a hassle. The only bad consequence of this system seems to be the fact that once the memory fills up, the launcher may lag or even be evacuated from memory. But, as i've mentioned in my previous post, there are ways to prevent that, either via scripts or, if you know what you're doing, via editing system files.
So the OS doesn't need to scan anything as it keeps everything in memory again? Seems like an endless loop. Open, sort, kill if needed, reopen, sort again, kill ... to what end, constant unneccessary multitasking that user is unaware of? I really don't see any benefit of that system and am only seeing the downsides. I mean, who needs every app they ever run remain in ram even if they close them after using? And then opening another app and "waiting" for whatever needs to be closed to get it running. Sure you can mess with the scripts (init.d, init.rc, etc.) but the underlined conditions stay the same. I hope I'm making sense here. Or am I fighting against windmills.
I just figured out that I strayed from the topic of this thread so won't be continuing this discussion if it's considered offtopic.
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Stop looking for excuses for poor multitasking in Sense 3+ roms
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Stop looking for excuses for poor multitasking in Sense 3+ roms
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Hello again nice to see you here
Here's an interesting article on what I was talking about. Sense 3.5 doesn't need that many mbs of ram to work smoothly. After booting and setting everything up I have 150+ mb free. That should be enough for decent multitasking but all those apps not getting killed when you close them are eating too much. Can anyone explain in detail what hidden app, perceptible app, backup app and heavy_weight app means? I've been googling this for a week and can't find any decent explanation.
@PlayPetepp - I think i have already said (in my previous post) that the OS does indeed use some resources for managing the memory, but they are negligible in terms of their impact on battery life. IMHO, the only thing a 3'rd party memory manager (task killer) WILL do is improve lanuncher responsiveness (lag) as the lag does increase when free RAM drops under a certain limit. Thus used wisely, a task killer can improve responsiveness, but battery life... very little, in rare cases (it does the opposite, most of the time).
Regarding the so called "memory slots", here's an excerpt from this article:
FOREGROUND_APP: This is the application currently on the screen, and running
VISIBLE_APP: This is an application that is open, and running in the background because it's still doing something
SECONDARY_SERVER: This is a process (a service that an application needs) that is alive and ready in case it's needed to do something
HIDDEN_APP: This again is a process, that sits idle (but still alive) in case it's needed by an app that's alive and running
CONTENT_PROVIDER: This is apps that provide data (content) to the system. HTC Facebook Sync? That's a CONTENT_PROVIDER. So are things like the Android Market, or Fring. If they are alive, they can refresh and provide the content they are supposed to at the set interval. If you kill them, they can't of course.
EMPTY_APP: I call these "ghosts." They are apps that you have opened, but are done with them. Android uses a unique style of handling memory management. When an activity is ended, instead of killing it off Android keeps the application in memory so that opening them again is a faster process. Theses "ghost" apps use no battery or CPU time, they just fill RAM that would be otherwise empty. When this memory is needed by a different application or process, the RAM is flushed and made available for the new app. To satisfy the geekier people (like myself) Android does this by keeping a list of recently used apps, with the oldest apps in the list given the lowest priority -- they are killed first if RAM is needed elsewhere. This is a perfect way to handle 'ghost' processes, so there's no need to touch this part
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Android experts all say task killers are unnecessary (except to kill a misbehaving app) because the android OS is designed to use all the available memory and it costs as much battery power to maintain a memory containing nothing as memory containing something. So emptying memory by killing an app just causes android to immediately load something else (or the same app) back into memory.
My question therefore has to do with apps like Greenify, which "hibernate" apps till they are actively called. Is hibernation just another name for removing apps from memory and therefore as counter productive as task killers? I can see the subtle differences but they seem minor compared to the similarities.
What do the experts who know android say? I don't know enough to really know.
Any studies to show an advantage (battery, etc.) in using an app like Greenify vs not?
Thank you.
Jeff
For me, I tried all of those battery saver app, none of them actually significant save battery, plus they use up some of your ram. I read somewhere says that android itself can handle battery save plus manage apps in it memory just fine.
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Task Killers use extra CPU cycles and can lead to loss of battery life.
I'm not sure about hibernation but I think it just prevents apps from being started automatically when the device is powered on and therefore saves battery and CPU.
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Android experts all say task killers are unnecessary (except to kill a misbehaving app) because the android OS is designed to use all the available memory and it costs as much battery power to maintain a memory containing nothing as memory containing something. So emptying memory by killing an app just causes android to immediately load something else (or the same app) back into memory.
My question therefore has to do with apps like Greenify, which "hibernate" apps till they are actively called. Is hibernation just another name for removing apps from memory and therefore as counter productive as task killers? I can see the subtle differences but they seem minor compared to the similarities.
What do the experts who know android say? I don't know enough to really know.
Any studies to show an advantage (battery, etc.) in using an app like Greenify vs not?
Thank you.
Jeff
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I have to agree with task killers not really being necessary, especially with newer devices, for the most part. I've had and used ATK for years now and use it on occasion but by no means do I use it regularly. The only app I use that ever misbehaves is Google Voice, while deleting a bunch of texts it will on occasion hang up and need to be killed. The two scenarios I use it regularly is before playing "some" games and usually before using VLC before watching a video. When using VLC I will often pause, skip, rewind, fast forward and on occasion use slow motion to further investigate any milk shake, if it's looks to be worth my time. In those two scenarios I believe it does make a difference. Other than that I don't use ATK and it's not needed.
As for Greenify, I've been using it since it was first released and I won't hesitate to admit to being a big fan. You don't want to use it for everything. Any widgets that need to update or apps you want to get notifications from I would not hibernate, even though it is supposed to work with some notifications I personally have never tried it. Having said that I have a ton of apps that I do hibernate with Greenify. System and user apps. And if I remember right I believe the auto-hibernate works at some point in time after your screen has shut off. If I'm wrong someone please correct me! I also have to say that using Greenify is part of the reason I routinely see 1-2% battery use during 9-10 hrs of standby and I have Never had a problem with wakelocks. I think it is unrealistic to attribute good battery life to any one specific configuration setting or app, it's going to be a combination of multiple things. And I think Greenify is part of the puzzle along with wifi use, wifi configuration, LTE use, display brightness, sync frequency, location settings and so on. My N7 is not a good example because it gets used very hard almost everyday and I still typically see 5-7+ hrs of screen on time and as high as 9 but rarely. My N5 also typically between 5-7 hrs sot, often as high as 9 and once saw 11 hrs of screen on time. And... I actually have screenshots. I would say give Greenify a try, used properly you will see a benefit. For what it's not worth, just my two cents!
Thank you. I've also used Greenify for a long time but don't know enough to really evaluate its effectiveness. I have not however dared to use it for system apps because of the warnings.
Which system apps have you hibernated without problem?
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Thank you. I've also used Greenify for a long time but don't know enough to really evaluate its effectiveness. I have not however dared to use it for system apps because of the warnings.
Which system apps have you hibernated without problem?
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Google search, chrome, keep, news and weather (don't really use), youtube. Google play books, games, movies, music, Google+ and Hangouts I have disabled because I use other apps but those could very well be hibernated except for Google+ and Hangouts (notifications).
I missed currents, email, korean keyboard, google pinyin, iWinnIME, google play magazines which I have disabled also but any of those could be hibernated.
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No problem. I just realized I show google search in my list of apps I hibernate but I should mention that I don't use google now. If you do you probably want to leave google search alone if you want google now notifications.
That's fine. I don't use Google search, google plus, Hangouts, etc. Etc. Either but was afraid to disable them because of potential problems when the next system update comes. How do you disable them? Titanium b/U or something else?
(I'm rooted).
So, I checked my battery usage on my M8 and saw some apps like Facebook,Whatsapp are taking too much battery compared to other apps.
So my question is, How can I disable the apps without entering into settings>app.
Is there any widget that we can place on the homepage so that we can disable/enable apps whenever we want ?
Thanks
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So, I checked my battery usage on my M8 and saw some apps like Facebook,Whatsapp are taking too much battery compared to other apps.
So my question is, How can I disable the apps without entering into settings>app.
Is there any widget that we can place on the homepage so that we can disable/enable apps whenever we want ?
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Greenify. It works for both rooted and nonrooted devices.
consider also xposed + amplify. for the same price I think there is more control about what is eating battery. you can disable or limit rate of strict wakelock/alarm/service. but it is not so simple as greenify and require some set-trial-repeat process.
but once set you have pretty much full working device with all connectivity goodness but with considerably lover battery leak.
for me it was like dropping from sane uncontrolled 50mA to 6-8mA per period during idle hours (when the phone screen is off). 1% drop per 2 hours. kk but different device - s3 lte.
btw. that's interesting if it could manage to last ~200h on single charge - workweek [emoji15] however I'm not at position to resist so long period without checking Parez Hilton rumors [emoji6]
I can live with the Nexus 5X' relative sluggishness when compared to the Nexus 5, but what really stops me from doing my work is the phone killing apps when I switch between them.
Example: I may be filling out a form on a website in Firefox for Android. I need to look up a word in the dictionary, so I switch over to the dictionary and look up the word. When I switch back to Firefox, the application has obviously been killed, as it reloads the page.
Example2: I'm listening to the Audio version of the Economist via the Economist app. The speaker mentions a certain placename and I open the Google Maps app in order too find where it is on the map. Suddenly the audio will stop playing - the app has been killed.
The above gets considerably worse when switching between more than two apps and is really hindering my work and productivity.
Now this almost never happened on the Nexus 5, which also only had 2 GB of RAM. So is it the power saving feature of the Nexus 5X kicking in? Is there a way to stop it from happening?
Marshmallow simply has very bad RAM management from what I've seen. I used to have the Nexus 5 too and as you said, multitasking was a very good experience on it (especially on Kitkat). Google's OS takes more of the phone's resources after each update (with no major new features or improvements). Marshmallow looks exactly the same as Lollipop, except for the tiny feature of apps permissions, and the Now on tap that I barely use (same for Android pay which I'm sure most of Nexus 5x owners won't even be able to use it outside the US). So I still don't understand why they had to jump so fast to a new version of Android while Lollipop still had a ****load of bugs that need fixing, they could've worked more on Lollipop to perfect it first then give us Marshmallow after 2 years maybe, we're not in a hurry.. I just hope they don't stop again at Marshmallow 6.1/6.2 or something and introduce Android N *sigh*
Sounds like you have more user installed apps with constantly running background services installed that the phone can comfortably handle with 2GB memory.
Check the memory stats in Settings - if the average over all the time options is 1.6GB or above used then your phone is going to struggle and cached apps are going to be getting cleared out when switching regularly. Look down the list particulary for apps running close to 100% of the time with a big RAM fingerprint. Also check running services in developer settings to get an idea of what is running a service all of the time.
Once you've identified the worst offenders make that difficult decision - is the apps utility worth it for the impact on performance. Consider reporting the memory use to the developer, particularly if it's much lower after a reboot and increases over time. Plenty of playstore apps ship with clear memory leak issues.
Other than that the other option is reasonably regular reboots to keep the system fresh and clear out any memory leaks.
thanks for the suggestion. Well here's the top 5:
Android operating system 524 MB
Wechat 156 MB
Firefox 117 MB
System UI 105 MB
Android system 99 MB
Clearly it's mostly the system using all resources. Firefox and Wechat, sure, I find them rather essential to my life, but together they don't even use as much as the OS.
Thing is, I can't remember this happening on the Nexus 5.
Sounds like you may have some apps using up a lot of your memory. I haven't been seeing any redraws with my apps, even 24+ hours of sitting in the background. The other day I was switching between gaming, streaming a live sporting even, and text messaging and the phone didn't drop a beat despite the game alone using 600MB of RAM.
Are those the average RAM or peak?
that's what shows up when I get the details of the RAM usage through settings
still this never happened on the Nexus 5, at least I can't remember
Yeah, I have a hard time believing it's the apps. I never had this issue come up in my Moto X 2013 (also 2 GB of RAM) using the same apps. We're seriously talking about one app open, switching to another app. No reason switching back to the first app should have everything reload.
Unless by "some apps," you mean that they have somehow not been optimized for Marshmallow in some way or other. But the apps simply running a process? A smartly-made OS (Lollipop, KitKat) will know "Hey, we have to kill something to free up RAM? Why don't we kill an app that hasn't been used in a while?" and a less-smartly-made OS (perhaps Marshmallow...?) will think "Hey, we have to kill something to free up RAM... why don't we kill the app the user just used?"
And there are two figures there - average and peak - which are those?
If there are the averages rather than peak then both Firefox and Wechat have got a problem.
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Marshmallow and Lollipop low RAM behaviour is pretty much identical and quite aggressive (the OS tries to preserve quite a chunk of free memory which is uses on the sly as a display buffer), KitKat was less aggressive.
I don't have any problem multitasking on my Nexus5x, but then again for the apps I've got when I check the memory tab I'm normally averaging 1.2-1.4GB used and 400-600MB average memory free so there is plenty of space for the OS to gracefully cache and uncache processes. If the phone is normally running at 1.5GB-1.6GB used and 200-300MB then the LMK is going to be kicking in frequently. It kicks in at around 250MB free on a Nexus5x.
It was the default setting, i.e. average. HM ok good to know. It's happening quite often when listening to the Economist too. Which is really bull****, it should treat it as audio playing. Why would Android kill your music.
I agree music players don't get the priority they should, although that particular 'bug' at least gives a clear symptom that lack of free RAM is an issue, if not the cause of the issue e.g. the OS, to many running services from user apps, or a particular user app with memory leak issues.
I came to the Nexus5x from a 1GB Moto G where it was almost impossible to keep background music running in combination with navigation after Lollipop without uninstalling pretty much everything else user installed and have got used to monitoring the RAM footprint and behaviour of apps as a result.
I've suffered the problem once since I've had the Nexus5x and that was due to the music player (Soundcloud) being a memory hog (120MB+) with it's background music player service coupled with a memory leak in the driving app I was testing at the time - Automate - it was peaking at 460MB use.
I'm not so precious about what is installed now but anything that wants to run a constant service either has to be tiny when running that service or absolutely fundamental to my use of the device.
I find this to be the worst problem .We want to kill our apps like we are use to.Switching between email and chrome is horrible especially when you have to start your application all-over again (submission request) Hopefully some XDA member will figure out how to solve this issue. For now I am testing DEVELOPER OPTIONS allow running
apps in background ? Anyone know what the default value is??
Anyone noticed a decline from 10 to 11.
I cannot speak for the mate 20 x but I was a p30 pro user before and it had a huge impact on my battery, also speaks volumes as its all over the xda forum emui 11 battery drain on 11.0.0.140
They have just got an update to. 147
Reason I ask is since having the phone the battery is 91 percent on accubattery and all I've known is emui 11, I'm only getting sot or 6/7 hours on WiFi, no gaming
Just YouTube, chrome, fb and reddit
I got the mate 20 x and I'm on the Feb patch of 138. Hopefully 140 comes soon.
I've been on 140 for a few weeks now, how's your average screen on time with usage
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I've been on 140 for a few weeks now, how's your average screen on time with usage
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its cool! been clocking about 7 - 9 hours sot. what about you?
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Anyone noticed a decline from 10 to 11.
I cannot speak for the mate 20 x but I was a p30 pro user before and it had a huge impact on my battery, also speaks volumes as its all over the xda forum emui 11 battery drain on 11.0.0.140
They have just got an update to. 147
Reason I ask is since having the phone the battery is 91 percent on accubattery and all I've known is emui 11, I'm only getting sot or 6/7 hours on WiFi, no gaming
Just YouTube, chrome, fb and reddit
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Did you buy this phone used? It's possible that your phone is used/refurbished without you knowing it!
Many 3rd party resellers have actually been guilty of selling phones of such they repackage as brand new at the expense of the consumer unfortunately. This happened to a friend of mine who bought a "brand new, never opened" (note the quotes) mate 20x from ebay. He was quick to notice that it was anything but brand new. This could probably be you in your case.
But there are very good battery cases that work very well in extending battery life of the 20x. I happen to own one which in addition to the native battery of the 20x, extends battery to 6 - 10 days on medium handling between charges. This is the one I have, check it out if you like it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193653945242
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It is because you are gamer as u said and u stressing battery like crazy playing depleting fast, charging fast, playing depleting fast charging... Your rutine with this will cause battery cells to decay..
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When did I mention I was a gamer? As I'm not
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But there are very good battery cases that work very well in extending battery life of the 20x. I happen to own one which in addition to the native battery of the 20x, extends battery to 6 - 10 days on medium handling between charges. This is the one I have, check it out if you like it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193653945242
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Hey Deanro did you buy the bat case cuz your battery drained too fast?
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Hey Deanro did you buy the bat case cuz your battery drained too fast?
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No. I got it to just extend my battery which was very good already.
when comparing SOT its extremely important to check your system settings and types of usage. screen brightness is the biggest battery eater, so i usually keep mine at around 25% unless absolutely necessary (i.e. direct sunlight). also, as mentioned above, games and social media apps will use additional power. add to that all the sensors (wifi, bt, gps, nfc, etc.) that u best switch off whenever u dont need them. another trick is to limit mobile data speed to 3G, saves additional energy.
last but not least: use hibernation apps like hibernator or greenify and be sure to go through app settings to block apps from using background data / auto launch / access options that are not really necessary.
with all that in mind, im easily getting 15 hours SOT on average calculated based on a full charging cycle (100-0%). naturally, your mileage may vary depending on the above items and your particular usage cases. my main usage patterns consist of mostly web surfing, media consumption (yt, local video, bt audio), whatsapp and some shopping apps, google searches and gallery/camera usage on the side.
as for emui 10 vs. 11 i have actually noticed a slight improvement in sot. however, i switched several of my main usage apps during that time and adjusted my system settings, as well. so cannot say how much of an impact emui by itself had in that. all in all id guess theyre actually pretty similar. be that as it may, i usually block any and all unneeded huawei system apps from running so any changes in system apps might not affect me as much as the next guy...
jbmc83 said:
with all that in mind, im easily getting 15 hours SOT on average calculated based on a full charging cycle (100-0%). naturally, your mileage may vary depending on the above items and your particular usage cases. my main usage patterns consist of mostly web surfing, media consumption (yt, local video, bt audio), whatsapp and some shopping apps, google searches and gallery/camera usage on the side.
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Lol dude you dont get 15 hrs sot. the most i seen was 9 hrs.
um, yes i do just read my previous post for my adjusted settings. pretty straightforward, actually.
For additional references, just look at 20x reviews:
Review 1 - 12+ hours SOT: https://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/huawei-mate-20-x-review/2
Review 2 - 12-14 hours SOT: https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-20-x-review-963078/
so with a few extra tweaks, 15 hours is no problem whatsoever. as mentioned before, in the end it depends heavily on your system settings and usage patterns.
jbmc83 said:
um, yes i do just read my previous post for my adjusted settings. pretty straightforward, actually.
For additional references, just look at 20x reviews:
Review 1 - 12+ hours SOT: https://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/huawei-mate-20-x-review/2
Review 2 - 12-14 hours SOT: https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-20-x-review-963078/
so with a few extra tweaks, 15 hours is no problem whatsoever. as mentioned before, in the end it depends heavily on your system settings and usage patterns.
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Something is not right here. So what do you do to your phone that you claim gets 12 hours sot time. Do you also do adb to tweak it also? Like disabling apps with adb to improve battery?
zlaer said:
Something is not right here. So what do you do to your phone that you claim gets 12 hours sot time. Do you also do adb to tweak it also? Like disabling apps with adb to improve battery?
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as mentioned in my previous post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/battery-life-emui-10-vs-11.4269245/post-84945619
and yes, i forgot that item, also disabled all unnecessary system apps via adb its all in the details, my friend!
check it
jbmc83 said:
as mentioned in my previous post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/battery-life-emui-10-vs-11.4269245/post-84945619
and yes, i forgot that item, also disabled all unnecessary system apps via adb its all in the details, my friend!
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Just to follow upon what you said, i got some questions for you;
- So I downloaded hibernator. Which system apps did you hibernate?
- You said to block apps from using access options that are not necessary. What do you mean by access options?
- How do i switch from 4g to 3g?
- What unnecessary apps did you disable through adb?
protoga said:
Just to follow upon what you said, i got some questions for you;
- So I downloaded hibernator. Which system apps did you hibernate?
- You said to block apps from using access options that are not necessary. What do you mean by access options?
- How do i switch from 4g to 3g?
- What unnecessary apps did you disable through adb?
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Happy to help.
- Hibernator: Let me get back to you on that, its quite a long list haha. I basically included all apps that dont pop up regularly when using specific system functions. So basically just hibernate once after boot and done.
edit: attached zip with screenshots of all the hibernated system apps.
- App access options: By that I mean in the system settings under "Apps", check all permissions for all apps and set only the ones u really need and use. Also check App Auto-Launch options as well as Battery Optimization of Apps (can find all of those via the search function). It's a bit tedious to set everything up, but u only need to do it once at the start and afterwards just every time u install and set up a new app.
- 4G to 3G: Settings / Mobile Network / Mobile Data / Preferred network mode / Set "3G/2G auto"
- disable unnecessary apps via adb: that depends on your preferences and usage cases. but as a rough guideline, i followed this thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-spreadsheet-remove-system-apps-through-adb.3870727/
jbmc83 said:
Happy to help.
- Hibernator: Let me get back to you on that, its quite a long list haha. I basically included all apps that dont pop up regularly when using specific system functions. So basically just hibernate once after boot and done.
edit: attached zip with screenshots of all the hibernated system apps.
- App access options: By that I mean in the system settings under "Apps", check all permissions for all apps and set only the ones u really need and use. Also check App Auto-Launch options as well as Battery Optimization of Apps (can find all of those via the search function). It's a bit tedious to set everything up, but u only need to do it once at the start and afterwards just every time u install and set up a new app.
- 4G to 3G: Settings / Mobile Network / Mobile Data / Preferred network mode / Set "3G/2G auto"
- disable unnecessary apps via adb: that depends on your preferences and usage cases. but as a rough guideline, i followed this thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-spreadsheet-remove-system-apps-through-adb.3870727/
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Appreciate the link.
Which apps did you remove through adb?
What was your sot before you did all this battery tweaking?
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Appreciate the link.
Which apps did you remove through adb?
What was your sot before you did all this battery tweaking?
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cant give you any estimates on the SOT or general battery life before that, since i did it pretty much right away even before setting it up with my own apps
hmmm...i might have a list flying around somewhere, where i made some notes regarding which apps i removed via adb. let me dig through my archives and ill let you know.
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cant give you any estimates on the SOT or general battery life before that, since i did it pretty much right away even before setting it up with my own apps
hmmm...i might have a list flying around somewhere, where i made some notes regarding which apps i removed via adb. let me dig through my archives and ill let you know.
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Yeah plz let me know thanks
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Yeah plz let me know thanks
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Here you go, managed to find my notes (see attached). have a look at the two included worksheets.