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There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 6 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
6.Battery Save App
A battery save app could also be a life save as you can monitor exactly how much on what you're spending and then configure power save modes using apps such as Easy Battery Saver.
You can also turn off services such as 3g/WiFi/GPS to save battery consumption advanced users can also scale the CPU and more system operation with such brilliant app as JuiceDefender - battery saver.
RECOMMENDED BATTERY SAVER APPS:
*JuiceDefender - battery saver* Free
JuiceDefender Ultimate Cost Money
Easy Battery Saver Free
Conclusion:
Following those six step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
:goodlease Comment and Thank if you think that this post was helpful.:laugh:
Hi
HRandev said:
There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 5 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
Conclusion:
Following those five step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
:goodlease Comment and Thank if you think that this post was helpful.:laugh:
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The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
It wouldn't effect your internal system apps
PhilipL said:
Hi
The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
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I do appreciate your replay but it only shows you those task that are running separately (not internal system apps) and if you kill them it does make a difference in the overall performance. And some operations like navigation running in the background continuously uses GPS and even Data constantly, so if you end it, it does make a difference.
You are right with the screen brightness, I thought about it and came to a conclusion to just leave it at auto because no one would like a dim display.
So it wouldn't completely turn off your data or calls or corrupt your system since you wouldn't terminate any internal system apps
regards,
HRanDev
PhilipL said:
Hi
The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android.
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And also control 3G/WiFi/BT radios as and when needed , there are battery saver apps like Juice defender that intelligently turn off 3G and data connections.
Advanced users can also play around with custom kernels, CPU speed settings and Kernel governors, etc.. (can help with custom ROMs)
Thanks for the tip, I added it to it.
Actually agree with PhilipL.
Killing or managing tasks in Android is a placebo - and is likely to do more harm (in terms of battery life) than good. Plenty of articles if you google saying task managers are a bad idea.
However, managing screen brightness and background services will help enormously.
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I have upgraded my Galaxy W to Jelly Bean using Custom Room (4.2.2) Cyanogenmod 10.1 alpha 2. maybe later alpha 3.
Everything runs well. but why my phone's battery drains so fast? and please help me HOW TO SOLVE IT AND MAKE IT LAST LONG TIME???
THANKS VERY MUCH....
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
Electro Tobib Muhajir said:
Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
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when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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Sounds like your battery is bloated. Can u show me a screenshot of your battery graph and app usage?
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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that 20% is not actually the 20% of the battery juice. It is 20% of whatever amount of battery is drained due to the display being ON. Like if your battery is used from 100% to 90%, then only 2% is used by the display.
I am not sure if I could explain what I mean.
EDIT: Hmmm maybe I misunderstood what you said... If that is the case, disregard.
And also my galaxy W will use all of its battery charge when the display is constantly ON for about 3-5 hours.
Actually, I've figured out what it was. It was Google Now. Chewing away at the battery without saying a word anywhere in the battery screen. I am now back to my old 3 days battery.
you need to install cpu spay from google play and you need look deep sleep time.
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
egagah said:
when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
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thanks a lot. that's very helpful for me..
klacenas said:
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
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yups...nice suggestion... thanks very much...:good::good::good:
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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THANKS...
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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me too.... more than 20%, whereas my battery is in sleep screen and in the lowest brightness
Me too
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smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
Magpir said:
smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
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No....no....no....
That link will redirect you to a website that has kanged Arco's hard work and NOT given due credit....
Here is the correct, original link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
........right here on XDA...
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
Hey all. Just wanted to get some input on getting the best bang for your buck when it comes to battery life. Though I've never been one for task killers and battery saver apps, recently I've been testing out a few different apps. Avast (uninstalled as I've never seen the need for anti virus on Android personally), Battery Doctor, CleanMate (I think It was called) and a few other battery saver apps. However, I cant seem to come to a conclusion on whether they help or hinder. Or if I'm even using them right.
The thing is they all seem to tell me different, conflicting info so I can't really make heads or tails out of it. They all seem to tell me different apps are running in the background and all suggest I do different things like kill apps, clear cache, free up memory, etc. What I have always used is system panel to kill a malfunctioning app if needed, cachemate, and SetCPU to underclock when the device is not in use. Now I am on a stock ROM with root and dont have a kernel that supports over/under clocking.
So I was just wondering what any of you guys to to both increase performance and save battery. Some kind of balancing act. And I don't want my experience to suffer, ex- I like my screen bright so am not going to turn it down to 30%. Stuff like that. I am kind of with the thinking that I should just use my tablet and let the system do its own thing, but then I kinda get that ocd thing going and want to have total control. So anyway, would love to hear what you guys think and use. Also, i would love love love to try out tasker but am unemployed and broke so that cant happen anytime soon. Thanks.
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Out of curiosity, how long does your Note 8.0 last?
You know, I couldn't really tell you right now. I inherited it from a friend about a week ago. He thought it was bricked and junk. I just loaded up some stock firmware, rooted it and since it's new to me I have been playing around with it lots so haven't experienced "normal use" yet. I wasn't really asking because I thought the battery was bad, but I just like to have total control and wondered what everyone was doing these days. I used to be big in the android scene, as a power user not a dev or anything, but have been out of the game for awhile. So far the battery seems to be really good when it's on standby or say if I have spotify running or netflix or playing an audiobook. But it seems to drain pretty fast when im using it more actively- emailing, switching to facebook, switching to internet etc. Again, I'm not really having battery problems, and it's a new tablet to me, but I just wanna stay ahead of the game. Sorry I can't give you any numbers right now, but I'm sure you understand.
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Do a search about battery.. there are a dozen threads in the Q&A thread.
I am a minimalist and don't like any so claimed Battery Booster, Battery Enhancer, or Battery Calibrator apps that are all over the google play apps site. Most of the time I leave power saver on, and have most all sync settings and apps set to automatically update and poll info and retrieve email. As I do not like to jump through hoops to get some thing to operate as expected.
Security 360 does a great job with antivirus and memory consumption with apps. You may think that you may not need an Antivirus, but this one thoroughly checks apps if you decide to turn off Google's app checking, or use private party apps from forums or developers linking them to sites.
I use Xposed framework, mainly because of the ability to turn off functions without needing to install a custom ROM. I have been there done that and am not impressed with custom ROM of any type, over stock.
Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
Since Google has corrected some issues with some of its apps, and a few other apps have updated recently. I get 2% drain with 12 hours of standby.
Also under normal use, I get 8 to 9% drain per hour, and 6% per hour browsing.
For speed improvements, I have a 633X SD card that has been tested around 93MB/S and 44MB/s write on my laptop, there are some rated double but are about less in real life performance.
I use TweaksterMod Pro from my past custom ROM experiences, only to boost read a head cache to double the default. This only helps with super fast SD cards, the slower the SD card or having congested internal RAM the boost must be greatly increased.
With online video and media, I get about 12% per hour drain doing both streaming and miracasting to tv.
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
update to 4.4.2 and battery calibrate resulted in 30hr+ battery life
good to read from you andr0id23 and gooberdude. I'm a little sensitive from my battery. since I bought two n5100 for me and my sister,I compare them in many aspects like performance,physical keys (volume,home,..) quality,battery life,... first I thought there's a problem with my battery.I used to test a lot of apps (some you mentioned,battery doctor,task killer,clean master,..) on my 4.1.2 stock ROM.the result was disappointing. my note hardly lasted for 8 hours with normal use (browsing,email checking,no games).it was better on my sister's tablet.
so I updated to 4.4.2 stock rom. things were like before UNTIL i did a battery calibrate.using a method almost like this link.by deleting battery stats after full charge.
I've attached the result.
notice that i have done a full wipe before update and i don't have that tones of app from 4.1.2.only the stock bloatwares and 25 harmless apps and games.this is the best result.the battery was so stubborn to live on its last 3 percent. approximately 3 hours on 1 present and the turned off.
misunderstanding some terms
gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
gooberdude said:
Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
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which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
gooberdude said:
I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
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what is substrate
gooberdude said:
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.
norits021 said:
gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
what is substrate
can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.
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OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.
great user
mmm.it worthed more than a simple thanks to me.
by the way you use it in a good way.it s about 1gb of used ram on start up for me.and 970 when killed processes.
I'll try those you mentioned.seems very usefull
gooberdude said:
OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.
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Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/
fuel gauge reset via terminal emulator
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Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/
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have a look on this topic.it for galaxy tabs but I guess it works on Note 8 too,although it is on your own risk(seems no risk,nothing gets worth than current state )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2398663
additionally,as I'm searching on batteries a few days,i found that there are different fuel chips out there.so we must do fuel gauge calibration method that fits our chip.If you found that please describe it here.
I've had Lollipop since the intro and and at first it was fine then it started to be buggy. I decided to hard reset and the phone works better but what I miss was the stellar battery longevity. From an unplug at 7 am I'd have 45-50% by 7 pm, now that's gone. I have 13% by &pm. Keep in in mind that I have a retail version and turned off any app possible that I don't want to work ,plus used Debloater. Lastly I use Greenify .
Looking at the battery specs I see that the Exchange services are at the top . Plus I see that Nova launcher is high on therunning list. This is a new version and i wonder if it's a power eater?
Here's what's in the running list-
settings- 210mb
nova- 71mb
weather app- 24mb
ipec - 8.3mb
securitymanagerservice- 5.4mb
passpoint settings- 4.4mb
android- 5.4mb
Bluetooth- 9.7 mb, Bluetooth is off and used only when i need it but still shows in this list
google play- 52mb
contacts- 15mb
context service- 17mb
email- 43mb
exchange- 20mb
greenify- 8.8mb
samsung keyboard- 45mb, why does the keyboard have to show and it's not being used
systemui- 16mb
Thanks in advance
pbman1953 said:
I've had Lollipop since the intro and and at first it was fine then it started to be buggy. I decided to hard reset and the phone works better but what I miss was the stellar battery longevity. From an unplug at 7 am I'd have 45-50% by 7 pm, now that's gone. I have 13% by &pm. Keep in in mind that I have a retail version and turned off any app possible that I don't want to work ,plus used Debloater. Lastly I use Greenify .
Looking at the battery specs I see that the Exchange services are at the top . Plus I see that Nova launcher is high on therunning list. This is a new version and i wonder if it's a power eater?
Here's what's in the running list-
settings- 210mb
nova- 71mb
weather app- 24mb
ipec - 8.3mb
securitymanagerservice- 5.4mb
passpoint settings- 4.4mb
android- 5.4mb
Bluetooth- 9.7 mb, Bluetooth is off and used only when i need it but still shows in this list
google play- 52mb
contacts- 15mb
context service- 17mb
email- 43mb
exchange- 20mb
greenify- 8.8mb
samsung keyboard- 45mb, why does the keyboard have to show and it's not being used
systemui- 16mb
Thanks in advance
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Well, I'm not sure why you're using the data you've provided to try to explain battery usage. The data you've provided looks like the amount of RAM the app/file occupies. The amount of RAM an app or process uses is not indicative of the amount of battery that will be consumed when that app/process is running. A much better indication of what's going on with battery consumption is data that indicates what and how much battery is being used by an app or process...like screen on time or cpu time used by an app.
If I understand you rightI think you're talking about the settings /battery area-
if so
Exchange services are at 4%
Android system- 1%
Android OS- 1%
Email- 1%
pbman1953 said:
If I understand you rightI think you're talking about the settings /battery area-
if so
Exchange services are at 4%
Android system- 1%
Android OS- 1%
Email- 1%
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Yeah, that area gives you a better idea of what is using the battery. If you really want to analyze what is using the battery resources in your phone you need to download and run an app that is designed to monitor your system and report what is using battery resources, how much and when. There are a number of apps in the Play Store that will do that. Many of them are free, but the better ones will cost you a dollar or two. But, if you're really interested in finding out what is "eating" your battery resources it may be well worth a dollar or two.
Here's list of the most common battery hogs: Facebook, live wallpaper, apps that sync data or other information every minute or two, screen on time-how often are you looking at the display and for how long, streaming video and music, gps, wifi, nfc and bluetooth turned on but not needed or in use, widgets open and running but not needed or used.
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Yeah, that area gives you a better idea of what is using the battery. If you really want to analyze what is using the battery resources in your phone you need to download and run an app that is designed to monitor your system and report what is using battery resources, how much and when. There are a number of apps in the Play Store that will do that. Many of them are free, but the better ones will cost you a dollar or two. But, if you're really interested in finding out what is "eating" your battery resources it may be well worth a dollar or two.
Here's list of the most common battery hogs: Facebook, live wallpaper, apps that sync data or other information every minute or two, screen on time-how often are you looking at the display and for how long, streaming video and music, gps, wifi, nfc and bluetooth turned on but not needed or in use, widgets open and running but not needed or used.
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Facebook, I use a browser link not the app
no Live wallpaper
apps that sync data or other information every minute or two- sounds like the emails. There doesn't seem to be a tweak anywhere for that
no streaming or music
GPS is on but didn't seem to bother before the reset
Wifi - used on demand
NFC- don't use
Bluetooth-also used on demand but is still listed as running when off
The only widget i use is my weather app- I do like it though- Weather XL
Thanks
Anyone noticed a decline from 10 to 11.
I cannot speak for the mate 20 x but I was a p30 pro user before and it had a huge impact on my battery, also speaks volumes as its all over the xda forum emui 11 battery drain on 11.0.0.140
They have just got an update to. 147
Reason I ask is since having the phone the battery is 91 percent on accubattery and all I've known is emui 11, I'm only getting sot or 6/7 hours on WiFi, no gaming
Just YouTube, chrome, fb and reddit
I got the mate 20 x and I'm on the Feb patch of 138. Hopefully 140 comes soon.
I've been on 140 for a few weeks now, how's your average screen on time with usage
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I've been on 140 for a few weeks now, how's your average screen on time with usage
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its cool! been clocking about 7 - 9 hours sot. what about you?
sutty86 said:
Anyone noticed a decline from 10 to 11.
I cannot speak for the mate 20 x but I was a p30 pro user before and it had a huge impact on my battery, also speaks volumes as its all over the xda forum emui 11 battery drain on 11.0.0.140
They have just got an update to. 147
Reason I ask is since having the phone the battery is 91 percent on accubattery and all I've known is emui 11, I'm only getting sot or 6/7 hours on WiFi, no gaming
Just YouTube, chrome, fb and reddit
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Did you buy this phone used? It's possible that your phone is used/refurbished without you knowing it!
Many 3rd party resellers have actually been guilty of selling phones of such they repackage as brand new at the expense of the consumer unfortunately. This happened to a friend of mine who bought a "brand new, never opened" (note the quotes) mate 20x from ebay. He was quick to notice that it was anything but brand new. This could probably be you in your case.
But there are very good battery cases that work very well in extending battery life of the 20x. I happen to own one which in addition to the native battery of the 20x, extends battery to 6 - 10 days on medium handling between charges. This is the one I have, check it out if you like it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193653945242
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It is because you are gamer as u said and u stressing battery like crazy playing depleting fast, charging fast, playing depleting fast charging... Your rutine with this will cause battery cells to decay..
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When did I mention I was a gamer? As I'm not
Deanro said:
But there are very good battery cases that work very well in extending battery life of the 20x. I happen to own one which in addition to the native battery of the 20x, extends battery to 6 - 10 days on medium handling between charges. This is the one I have, check it out if you like it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193653945242
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Hey Deanro did you buy the bat case cuz your battery drained too fast?
zlaer said:
Hey Deanro did you buy the bat case cuz your battery drained too fast?
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No. I got it to just extend my battery which was very good already.
when comparing SOT its extremely important to check your system settings and types of usage. screen brightness is the biggest battery eater, so i usually keep mine at around 25% unless absolutely necessary (i.e. direct sunlight). also, as mentioned above, games and social media apps will use additional power. add to that all the sensors (wifi, bt, gps, nfc, etc.) that u best switch off whenever u dont need them. another trick is to limit mobile data speed to 3G, saves additional energy.
last but not least: use hibernation apps like hibernator or greenify and be sure to go through app settings to block apps from using background data / auto launch / access options that are not really necessary.
with all that in mind, im easily getting 15 hours SOT on average calculated based on a full charging cycle (100-0%). naturally, your mileage may vary depending on the above items and your particular usage cases. my main usage patterns consist of mostly web surfing, media consumption (yt, local video, bt audio), whatsapp and some shopping apps, google searches and gallery/camera usage on the side.
as for emui 10 vs. 11 i have actually noticed a slight improvement in sot. however, i switched several of my main usage apps during that time and adjusted my system settings, as well. so cannot say how much of an impact emui by itself had in that. all in all id guess theyre actually pretty similar. be that as it may, i usually block any and all unneeded huawei system apps from running so any changes in system apps might not affect me as much as the next guy...
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with all that in mind, im easily getting 15 hours SOT on average calculated based on a full charging cycle (100-0%). naturally, your mileage may vary depending on the above items and your particular usage cases. my main usage patterns consist of mostly web surfing, media consumption (yt, local video, bt audio), whatsapp and some shopping apps, google searches and gallery/camera usage on the side.
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Lol dude you dont get 15 hrs sot. the most i seen was 9 hrs.
um, yes i do just read my previous post for my adjusted settings. pretty straightforward, actually.
For additional references, just look at 20x reviews:
Review 1 - 12+ hours SOT: https://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/huawei-mate-20-x-review/2
Review 2 - 12-14 hours SOT: https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-20-x-review-963078/
so with a few extra tweaks, 15 hours is no problem whatsoever. as mentioned before, in the end it depends heavily on your system settings and usage patterns.
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um, yes i do just read my previous post for my adjusted settings. pretty straightforward, actually.
For additional references, just look at 20x reviews:
Review 1 - 12+ hours SOT: https://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/huawei-mate-20-x-review/2
Review 2 - 12-14 hours SOT: https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-20-x-review-963078/
so with a few extra tweaks, 15 hours is no problem whatsoever. as mentioned before, in the end it depends heavily on your system settings and usage patterns.
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Something is not right here. So what do you do to your phone that you claim gets 12 hours sot time. Do you also do adb to tweak it also? Like disabling apps with adb to improve battery?
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Something is not right here. So what do you do to your phone that you claim gets 12 hours sot time. Do you also do adb to tweak it also? Like disabling apps with adb to improve battery?
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as mentioned in my previous post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/battery-life-emui-10-vs-11.4269245/post-84945619
and yes, i forgot that item, also disabled all unnecessary system apps via adb its all in the details, my friend!
check it
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as mentioned in my previous post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/battery-life-emui-10-vs-11.4269245/post-84945619
and yes, i forgot that item, also disabled all unnecessary system apps via adb its all in the details, my friend!
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Just to follow upon what you said, i got some questions for you;
- So I downloaded hibernator. Which system apps did you hibernate?
- You said to block apps from using access options that are not necessary. What do you mean by access options?
- How do i switch from 4g to 3g?
- What unnecessary apps did you disable through adb?
protoga said:
Just to follow upon what you said, i got some questions for you;
- So I downloaded hibernator. Which system apps did you hibernate?
- You said to block apps from using access options that are not necessary. What do you mean by access options?
- How do i switch from 4g to 3g?
- What unnecessary apps did you disable through adb?
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Happy to help.
- Hibernator: Let me get back to you on that, its quite a long list haha. I basically included all apps that dont pop up regularly when using specific system functions. So basically just hibernate once after boot and done.
edit: attached zip with screenshots of all the hibernated system apps.
- App access options: By that I mean in the system settings under "Apps", check all permissions for all apps and set only the ones u really need and use. Also check App Auto-Launch options as well as Battery Optimization of Apps (can find all of those via the search function). It's a bit tedious to set everything up, but u only need to do it once at the start and afterwards just every time u install and set up a new app.
- 4G to 3G: Settings / Mobile Network / Mobile Data / Preferred network mode / Set "3G/2G auto"
- disable unnecessary apps via adb: that depends on your preferences and usage cases. but as a rough guideline, i followed this thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-spreadsheet-remove-system-apps-through-adb.3870727/
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Happy to help.
- Hibernator: Let me get back to you on that, its quite a long list haha. I basically included all apps that dont pop up regularly when using specific system functions. So basically just hibernate once after boot and done.
edit: attached zip with screenshots of all the hibernated system apps.
- App access options: By that I mean in the system settings under "Apps", check all permissions for all apps and set only the ones u really need and use. Also check App Auto-Launch options as well as Battery Optimization of Apps (can find all of those via the search function). It's a bit tedious to set everything up, but u only need to do it once at the start and afterwards just every time u install and set up a new app.
- 4G to 3G: Settings / Mobile Network / Mobile Data / Preferred network mode / Set "3G/2G auto"
- disable unnecessary apps via adb: that depends on your preferences and usage cases. but as a rough guideline, i followed this thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-spreadsheet-remove-system-apps-through-adb.3870727/
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Appreciate the link.
Which apps did you remove through adb?
What was your sot before you did all this battery tweaking?
protoga said:
Appreciate the link.
Which apps did you remove through adb?
What was your sot before you did all this battery tweaking?
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cant give you any estimates on the SOT or general battery life before that, since i did it pretty much right away even before setting it up with my own apps
hmmm...i might have a list flying around somewhere, where i made some notes regarding which apps i removed via adb. let me dig through my archives and ill let you know.
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cant give you any estimates on the SOT or general battery life before that, since i did it pretty much right away even before setting it up with my own apps
hmmm...i might have a list flying around somewhere, where i made some notes regarding which apps i removed via adb. let me dig through my archives and ill let you know.
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Yeah plz let me know thanks
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Yeah plz let me know thanks
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Here you go, managed to find my notes (see attached). have a look at the two included worksheets.