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Hi all,
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
I opened a technical support incident with Google Play services who lead me through several diagnostic steps which included verifying that the tablet is not SIM or carrier locked, it properly recognizes the available networks with other carriers SIM cards (worked with T-Mobile USA, Telecom DE, MTN NG, Rogers CA) it also can list the mobile networks with no SIM in the device. But when a Vodafone SIM is added, it simply doesn't recognize any network operators. It's not a matter of APN settings, as we have verified these are correct, but the problem occurs at a very early level in preventing the mobile networks from being listed.
I believe this to be somehow related to the SIM card/middleware used to communicate with the SIM to the hardware. I see this behavior with the LTE Factory Image JLS36C as well as the Cyanogen Mod 10.2 unofficial deb builds.
Are there any other LTE users that are having a similar problem? Without mobile network access, my LTE model is effectively a WiFi only model and I'd really like to get this fixed.
buckofive said:
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
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As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
Guhrasoh said:
As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
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While the US and Europe do have some variance in LTE bands - we confirmed that the bands used by Vodafone NL are as listed below:
Nexus 7 (2013) Tech Specs (LTE)
Network
North America and Japan:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
Wireless
Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 a/b/g/n
We confirmed that Vodafone NL use 4G data enabled in a combination of the 800MHz and 1800MHz bands which are listed as supported.
The fact that my N7 can connect to other mobile networks in Europe with other carrier SIM cards also disproves the need to get a "European" model to connect to a network. There clearly is a problem with the Vodafone SIM and the NA Nexus, but simply blaming it on the channel or bands is not correct. Addittionally, even if the LTE connection is not possible 3G connection via HSPA+ or 2G GSM connection should be possible. The same Vodafone SIM worked with my N7 2013 3G model, which was also from NA, so it is clearly not an issue with the bands & channels.
Have you tried manually changing your prefered network type in testing menu *#*#4636#*#*
Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Have you tried manually changing your prefered network type in testing menu *#*#4636#*#*
Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
Did you find a solution?
buckofive said:
Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
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Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
ricmartins said:
Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
Vodafone promised a solution
I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
buckofive said:
Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
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ricmartins said:
I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
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Did you hear anything back from Vodafone? They have simply told me they don't support the device and explain that it is due to a North American device, which is simply not true. I've tested with T-Mobile data card from The Netherlands and also from Telekom in Germany and the Nexus 7 2013 gets 40+ Mbps download speeds on those networks. So the issue is clearly related to the Vodafone SIM cards, but no one has been able to give me any insight as to what card OS they are using, so it is very hard to troublehsoot the problem any further.
Two big thumbs down for Vodafone service & support!
Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
Sorontar said:
Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
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I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
pwvandeursen said:
I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
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I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on the response from Vodafone. I've had a ticket open for months with them, and it supposedly has been escalated. I've inquired in person with the so called "specialists" and they simply say it doesn't work with their SIMs. Yet nobody can tell me anything about the SIM, like manufacturer card OS, etc. It is really frustrating to hear this as I work with smart card and SIM middleware developers and if we had a bit to work with we might be able to fix the problem on our own.
I was at the end of my rope and extreme frustrated with them and wanted to cancel my contract, but they said that despite me paying for months of service that I haven't been able to use, that I would have to pay the remaining duration of my contract before I could switch to T-Mobile, which I think is total crap.
dual sim same problem with vodafone NL
I have the same issue. I use a dual sim from Vodafone in my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7. The Nexus 5 does not show these problems, but the 7 does. When I buy prepay mobile data abroad (Europe, Asia, US, Australia), the Nexus 7 2013 C works great with e.g. Orange, t-Mobile, Vodafone etc. But as my cellular subscription is a corporate one, at home I have to stick to wifi, for almost 2 years now! (I bought the 7 in Australia about 2 years ago). And yes exchanging sims between the devices does not make a difference. The combination vodafone NL sim + nexus 7 does not provide mobile data.
I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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H+ 3G WCDMA 2100 on CN version working confirmed. Haven't tested the other bands, but if 2100 is working the other ones should be too.
Thanks! I think its safe to assume then that WCDMA support is same across all regional versions...
Work here in Mauritius but not on all operator. One operator it show the H but download is 2G
thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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It works on 3G WCDMA, I just bought the CN version and it working on band 1900.
@OP
I suggest you buy the Zenfone 2 that you mentioned in your post. That is an America Version that can be used in Latin America as well.
IMHO, do not buy the China or Taiwan Variants as those were specifically for Asian Continent.
Good Luck.
alfespa17 said:
I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?
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The only Freq/band that the Z00AD (WW) doesn't support that the US version supports is 700 MHz/Band 17 -- there are some South/Central American providers that use that frequency, but not many.
Here's the breakdown of frequencies from the ASUS site:
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1800MHz/1900MHz,
EDGE GPRS GSM: (TH version)
900MHz/1800MHz, Class
3G :
WCDMA: (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz
WCDMA: (TH version)
900MHz/2100MHz
TD-SCDMA: (CN/IN version Only)
1900 ~ 2100
4G :
FDD-LTE: (TW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/900MHz(8)/1800MHz(9)/800MHz(18)/850MHz(19)/700MHz(28)
FDD-LTE: (WW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (US version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(17)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (TH version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (CN version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)
TDD-LTE: (CN/IN version)
2600MHz(38)/1900MHz(39)/2300MHz(40)/2500MHz(41)
ASUS phone 4G/LTE band compatibility varies by region. Please check compatibility with local carriers If intending to use your ASUS phone outside the original purchase region.
SIM1 Support2G/3G/4G
SIM2 Support2G
Dual SIM Dual Active
I can't do links as a new user, but here are the frequencies used by various providers:
List of LTE networks - Wikipedia: wikipedia.org List_of_LTE_networks
i have zenfone 2 ZOOAD
stock on usb logo
anybody knows how to fix it?
help me! please!
So my wife lost her WW 550ML that we bought in Hong Kong...
This weekend we went out in Bangkok to look for a replacement, but no WW phones available, only "TH".
I searched internet for info on the TH SKU - specifically the LTE bands, but there is no info at all, not even from Asus.
So I called the Asus Thailand call center, and at first they told me that the TH phone only supports 2100MHz. So I asked how they can advertise a phone as having LTE CA capabilities if it only supports one frequency.... then they changed their mind and said that it supports another frequency also (900 or 1900, I can't remember), and as far as I know there is no way of checking which bands are enabled.
But now the interesting part. When I asked if other LTE bands could be enabled (I said I needed full WW bands), they said sure, just take it to your nearest Asus Service Center and they will enable all the LTE bands for you....
What do you think? Just sales talk to get me to buy it?
Overandout said:
So my wife lost her WW 550ML that we bought in Hong Kong...
This weekend we went out in Bangkok to look for a replacement, but no WW phones available, only "TH".
I searched internet for info on the TH SKU - specifically the LTE bands, but there is no info at all, not even from Asus.
So I called the Asus Thailand call center, and at first they told me that the TH phone only supports 2100MHz. So I asked how they can advertise a phone as having LTE CA capabilities if it only supports one frequency.... then they changed their mind and said that it supports another frequency also (900 or 1900, I can't remember), and as far as I know there is no way of checking which bands are enabled.
But now the interesting part. When I asked if other LTE bands could be enabled (I said I needed full WW bands), they said sure, just take it to your nearest Asus Service Center and they will enable all the LTE bands for you....
What do you think? Just sales talk to get me to buy it?
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Mate, service personel are notorius for knowing more about the insides of their nostrils than they do about the phone you called about... Take with a grain of serious mistrust....
Absolutely. I really do not expect the Service Center to do anything like this, but it might be fun to try !!
The problem is, they may well take the phone, do nothing, but claim to have enabled all the WW LTE bands and we have no way of checking without physically taking the phone to another country and trying to connect to 4G network!
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be connectiong to 2.4ghz network instead of 5ghz. Also I cannot get mobile data working.
What ROM/kernel did you flash? Many ROMs run 5.1.x
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Rep7ile said:
What ROM/kernel did you flash? Many ROMs run 5.1.x
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Hi I used this rom Z90a40_USR_S118_1505272046_Q2020131.4_ROW_qpst
which was mentioned here on the forum as the best for Android 5.1
Hey man, I've done some research and it seems your ROM/phone should support LGT(4G). I would highly suggest completely wiping your phone, reflash ROM/ Gasps/ kernel (if you have one) and see if the issue persists
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The seller says I can send the item back for a full refund but unsure if he will give me a refund as I've changed the ROM to 5.1 The worst thing would be sending the device back to China
Okay, have you tried manually setting your APN? Fallow the steps below and findnthe APN settings online for your carrier, let me know what happens.
Many users have told me their 3G/4G LTE data network connection is broke after installing a custom ROM. *Well, in most of these cases, it can easily be fixed by manually setting the APN (Access Point Name). *This applies to any GSM networks such as*AT&T or T-Mobile. *For CDMA networks like Sprint or Verizon, they also use APNs but you don’t have to set them and should work out of the box.
Every carrier uses its own APN Settings to get its 3G/4G LTE network working on an Android smartphone or tablet device. *Now, these APN settings are usually “downloaded” automatically to your*phone*when you insert a SIM card. *BUT, there are times where the APN are not selected automatically OR when the APN settings are not downloaded.
In those instances, your 3G/4G LTE data will not work but that can easily be fixed.
Step 1. First, browse your Settings menu and find the “Access Point Names” menu. *This is usually under “Mobile Network Settings” or “More*mobile Networks or “Mobile Networks” under Settings menu depending on the Android device used.
Step 2. Once you are in the APN Settings menu, first thing you should check it that the APN is on the correct one. *If the correct APN is not checked (sometimes this happens), simply check ON the correct APN for your carrier. *That will make your 3G/4G LTE data working right away
tep 3. There are also times where the wrong APN is listed or there’s simply no APNs listed. *In these rare cases, you can simply add a new APN, hit the “+” button.
Step 4. For APN setting, the “Name” can be anything. *“APN” setting is the most important, usually you only have to fill this out for your phone to work.
For T-Mobile, you can set the “APN” to “fast.t-mobile.com”. *AT&T, you can set “APN” to “phone” or “pta”.
Now setting “APN” will get your data working but you still need to input additional settings to get your MMS working.
ep 5. You can usually Google APN settings for your carrier. *Whether you are in Thailand or in the U.S., simply Google for your APN settings like:
Google “t-mobile APN 4G LTE” for T-Mobile 4G LTE APN settings in the U.S.
Google “True Move APN 3g” for True Move 4G APN settings in Thailand.
Eventually, you should be able to find the full APN settings for your carrier whether you live in Hawaii or on North Pole.
Once you have the correct APN settings, simply input them into your APN settings on the phone
Step 7. Next, make sure to select the new APN Setting you have saved. *Within 5-30 seconds, your phone should start picking up 3G or 4G LTE signals and your data should be working again on the phone.
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desi112 said:
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be working on 3G. When I go into settings and network it only gives me the options to pick a 3G network. I did a lot of research before buying this phone and was assured it would work on 4G within the UK my old phone the Sony Xperia ZR worked on 4G fine. I do have the latest nano sim.
Here are the details of the Lenovo Z90-7 As per GSM Arena
Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 800 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - Lenovo Z90-7
And from my network operator's webpage I get the following info
4G from Tesco Mobile (o2) uses the following network frequencies:
800 MHz (0.8 GHz)
Am I having this problem as I flashed it with new firmware?
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I believe the phone doesn`t have the LTE 800 frequency.
Search other websites than gsm arena.
That`s why you don`t get 4G.
Hi Friends,
Thanks for the quick replies I really appreciate the help. In regards to the APN settings I've checked these and these seem to be correct.
So it *Should* work EE
Interesting, I was hoping the APN settings were the cause. I'm sorry you couldn't fix your issue. I'm sure you will have better luck with your next device.
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desi112 said:
Hi Friends,
Thanks for the quick replies I really appreciate the help. In regards to the APN settings I've checked these and these seem to be correct.
Valter84 you are correct I spoke to the seller and he advised that there is a mistake on the listing the phone does not support the LTE 800Mhz frequency.
So it *Should* work in the UK on the network EE which uses Band 3 FDD LTE (1800mhz). I've tried an EE sim and it still does not work at all on 4G.
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Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
But I can use here in Czech republic at T mobile provider only 1800 Mhz which covers only Prague and Mlada Boleslav . Rest of our country covers LTE on 800 Mhz only.
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
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desi112 said:
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
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This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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barcomi said:
desi112 said:
This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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Guys, just to let you know the phone works 4G on UK EE network, but not on O2.
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I need help. can't use 5ghz network.
desi112 said:
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be connectiong to 2.4ghz network instead of 5ghz. Also I cannot get mobile data working.
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I can't connecting 5ghz too.
Just only can connecting 2.4ghz.
I can't find 5ghz network in WLAN list.
I succeeded installing the ROM. (use MiFlash tool)
ROM Version: Z90-a40_S118_1505272008_ROW
So, my phone's android version is 5.1
Z90-7 device can't support 5ghz WIFI network? or ROM's problem?
I want to know about this problem's solutions. (I want to use 5ghz wifi network!)
If anybody answer for me, I'll be very grateful.
Thanks for reading.
Chinese markets are deceiving customers
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
But I can use here in Czech republic at T mobile provider only 1800 Mhz which covers only Prague and Mlada Boleslav . Rest of our country covers LTE on 800 Mhz only.
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Dear people, wake up, many Chinese markets are deceiving customers by providing them misleading information. LTE bands is one clear example. Chinese LTE bands are diferent and they just flash the device's ROM for multi-language and add Google Play to make it "international version" but it is not. DON'T BUY IT!
I double checked with this company minideal.net which i cannot recommend. The company confirmed full FDD LTE (4G) functionality on following frequency bands: 800/1800/2100/2600MHz. But my smartphone IS NOT WORKING on 800MHz in The Czech Republic because it is only 1800/2100/2600MHz in fact. Within the PayPal Dispute and Claim they completely turned around their statements concerning LTE bands.
Complete tests were made with my network operator provider to rull out other problems. You can easily check that in these comments and in some fair e-shops where they don't twist the truth.
Mydoma said:
Dear people, wake up, many Chinese markets are deceiving customers by providing them misleading information. LTE bands is one clear example. Chinese LTE bands are diferent and they just flash the device's ROM for multi-language and add Google Play to make it "international version" but it is not. DON'T BUY IT!
I double checked with this company minideal.net which i cannot recommend. The company confirmed full FDD LTE (4G) functionality on following frequency bands: 800/1800/2100/2600MHz. But my smartphone IS NOT WORKING on 800MHz in The Czech Republic because it is only 1800/2100/2600MHz in fact. Within the PayPal Dispute and Claim they completely turned around their statements concerning LTE bands.
Complete tests were made with my network operator provider to rull out other problems. You can easily check that in these comments and in some fair e-shops where they don't twist the truth.
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This is correct, the phone doesn't work on 800MHz. However it should because Qualcom 615 supports 800MHz. the reason it doesn't work is because the modem is probably locked within the ROM. I am hoping once this phone is release european version then it should work at 800MHz.
Czech version of Lenovo Vibe Shot working on 800Mhz LTE seamlessly
barcomi said:
This is correct, the phone doesn't work on 800MHz. However it should because Qualcom 615 supports 800MHz. the reason it doesn't work is because the modem is probably locked within the ROM. I am hoping once this phone is release european version then it should work at 800MHz.
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Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
coptrade said:
Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
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This is amazing. I hope soon someone will release the european ROM, so I can update my chinese phone with european ROM. Do you think the Chinese phone will work on 800MHz with the European ROM?
barcomi said:
This is amazing. I hope soon someone will release the european ROM, so I can update my chinese phone with european ROM. Do you think the Chinese phone will work on 800MHz with the European ROM?
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Well, i consulted this with some mobile phone services earlier and they did not recommend updating the ROM like that. Your device can end up dead after it. The ROM must be perfectly tuned to the particular HW specification of your device to avoid the fatal consequences. It is quite risky... i was thinking the same way. I am disputing the seller via PayPal asking for partial refund to be able to re-sell the phone to someone who can do without 800MHz.
Also you cannot freely update the android system without loosing the multi-language and Google Play... So shopping mobile phones in China? NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME!
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coptrade said:
Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
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Ok, i understand your point. I was thinking the same way. Some mobile phone services would refuse to update the ROM like that though, because it can kill the mobile completely. And who will take the responsibility? The Chinese dishonest dealers should! Let us tell them, we don't like their deception and lies! They are playing the "we don't know" game, but they surely know enough about the differences between Chinese and non-Chinese LTE bands.
But yes, there should be a way to change the ROM the same way the distributors of the real European version of this phone do it. Only where shall we get that ROM and ROM update done? Because, as i have already experienced, the local (Czech) Lenovo representation has no interest in helping owners of Lenovo products purchased in China. How predicable...
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desi112 said:
The seller says I can send the item back for a full refund but unsure if he will give me a refund as I've changed the ROM to 5.1 The worst thing would be sending the device back to China
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Did you pay via PayPal? You can dispute or claim... Because i say it is just intentional form of deception what they do...
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barcomi said:
desi112 said:
This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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You are right some (many) Chinese dealers are cheating... and we pay for it.
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coptrade said:
Well, i consulted this with some mobile phone services earlier and they did not recommend updating the ROM like that. Your device can end up dead after it. The ROM must be perfectly tuned to the particular HW specification of your device to avoid the fatal consequences. It is quite risky... i was thinking the same way. I am disputing the seller via PayPal asking for partial refund to be able to re-sell the phone to someone who can do without 800MHz.
Also you cannot freely update the android system without loosing the multi-language and Google Play... So shopping mobile phones in China? NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME!
I changed my ROM, but it is just simplified ROM (done by chinese guys) without the bloatware ...
I got it from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lenovo-z90-7-vibe-shot-international-t3148018
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Hi everyone. Im wondering if this is possible for pixel 6 pro. Basically my unit is direct from us store which is G8VOU. Now im using it in Malaysia and 4g lte works fine.
Now im wondering if carrier aggregation is possible through root. Right now from what see through netmonster it can do 2ca on the same band(check screenshot). I think its aggregating two towers with the same band, i may be wrong though.
Anyone had any idea how to force enable multi band ca? The local sold phone can go up to 5ca which are mainly band 1, 3, 7 ,8. Thanks in advance.
I would also like to know
Is it not 4G+ an indication of currently using carrier aggregation?
Try to download NPerf app and click on speed test button. It will detect your carrier and mention it's currently on 4G+ or LTE-A
Another proof is below when you check in *#*#4636#*#* . Currently my Yoodo is on band 7 and band 3.
And Digi Malaysia only have 1 band which is Band 7
Digi - Malaysia - Wireless Frequency Bands and Device Compatibility
Digi (Malaysia) uses 2 GSM bands, 1 UMTS band, and 1 LTE band. Find out if your unlocked phone or mobile device will work with Digi (Malaysia)
www.frequencycheck.com
fuadhdmini said:
Is it not 4G+ an indication of currently using carrier aggregation?
Try to download NPerf app and click on speed test button. It will detect your carrier and mention it's currently on 4G+ or LTE-A
Another proof is below when you check in *#*#4636#*#* . Currently my Yoodo is on band 7 and band 3.
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Yes like is said. Mine is at 2ca indicated that im at TWO bands aggregated. Which is way below whats possible. Let me know if you have something that can help instead of just pointing out facts i already stated in the first post. Thanks.
fuadhdmini said:
And Digi Malaysia only have 1 band which is Band 7
Digi - Malaysia - Wireless Frequency Bands and Device Compatibility
Digi (Malaysia) uses 2 GSM bands, 1 UMTS band, and 1 LTE band. Find out if your unlocked phone or mobile device will work with Digi (Malaysia)
www.frequencycheck.com
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I sometimes have band 3 and 8 as well. Just never 3 or 4ca at a time. Only up to 2ca max.
The modem decides aggregation.