I just got myself an M8 which I unlocked and started using 4 days ago. I am used to using the Galaxy S phones and Ktoonsez Kernel for my devices. I am completely new with this device and currently running the LeeDroid ROM and I am wondering if anyone has any kernels they recommend for this device. I am looking for the best balance of Performance, Battery and ease of customization.
Thanks!
I find kernels don't make much of a difference, for my usage... So I usually use whatever comes with the rom.
But I do know two of your reasons contradict each other. Performance and battery life. Usually you slightly sacrifice one for the other.
Edit: Stock kernels, and ones included with roms are already designed for a good balance. Older devices needed more tweaking to gain different outcomes, but newer devices aren't nearly as impacted by kernel tweaks. My opinion of course.
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I am not asking which one is the best, but which one would you prefer for best battery backup? Samsung's latest release is forcing me to use a custom kernel, but I'd like to know which one I should use as I am not freak about flashing plenty stuffs.
Thanks in advance.
Redpill or uneak or perseus. You can try them all.
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Yeah, but I don't want to try them all bro. I know they all are great but that's why I asked which one is the preferable for battery backup specifically.
I am on Perseus now, I hope I've made the right choice. Lets see...
Persues is good for battery.neak is battery drainer.my experience
You're not asking which ones the best, but I'll tell you. I have used all the available kernels for my Note 2, and in my experience RedPill is the only one that is giving me consistent and best battery and overall performance. With more and more updates the developer has been adding more and more options. You can also undervolt the CPU and GPU with RedPill for further enhance your battery life. I had huge battery problems on my S3, So i had to go through a bunch of crap like different custom roms, undervolting, under-clocking etc to achieve good battery life. But when i got my Note 2 i used it for a few days completely stock and un-modified. And i was surprised at how amazing the battery life was. But if your having problems i can recommend AllianceRom + RedPill kernel, than undervolt the CPU/GPU (The utility needed to do so comes with the kernel, after flashing there will be an app installed on the phone called STweaks). And do some other minor adjustments to achieve incredible battery life. If you need any help or additional information you can contact me anytime.
I also want to know...
I would also like to know this as well. Since upgrading to 4.1.2 I am having bad battery backup, never thought of switching kernels but now I have to.
Shame on you Samsung....
Faux123 recently posted a thread releasing his custom kernel for the N1, but for a not-so mobile/linux savvy person like myself I don't have a great deal of knowledge on kernels, or what it adds/does.
What are the advantages or even disadvantages of using a custom kernel, like Faux? Does it save battery, or does it allow for overclocking? Like, what are the capabilities of using custom kernels over stock?
I'm currently on CM11 nightlies.
Any information is appreciated, and thanks in advance!
First I would read the changelog linked in the thread. Then after reading through, you should Google what each item means if you aren't familiar with it (A lot of them are noted as to what they do).
I would not suggest flashing a custom kernel if you aren't sure about how it can help your phone, and what risks you might be facing.
Always research before flashing something new, especially a kernel. :highfive:
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First I would read the changelog linked in the thread. Then after reading through, you should Google what each item means if you aren't familiar with it (A lot of them are noted as to what they do).
I would not suggest flashing a custom kernel if you aren't sure about how it can help your phone, and what risks you might be facing.
Always research before flashing something new, especially a kernel. :highfive:
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Yeah I wouldn't flash something unless I know what it did. On my previous phone (HTC Sensation) I had a few custom kernels flashed with the ROMs i used but other than that I have no experience with kernels.
I have read the changelog, and I can see what most of the items do, but specifically I have no idea. Reading through there are options to overclock/change voltage and increase or decrease battery life depending on profiles and governors used.
Overall I was wondering if it is worth flashing for a medium user. I'm not a developer, but i'm also not an avid mobile gamer. I mainly use internet, social apps and SMS, but don't like slowing of devices. Would the custom kernel be able to prolong battery life (or give other great advantages) while still maintaining the extremely fast response that N1 has already?
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Overall I was wondering if it is worth flashing for a medium user. I'm not a developer, but i'm also not an avid mobile gamer. I mainly use internet, social apps and SMS, but don't like slowing of devices. Would the custom kernel be able to prolong battery life (or give other great advantages) while still maintaining the extremely fast response that N1 has already?
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You might get some battery life improvements by changing some voltages to decrease the power used. It shouldn't impact the performance if it's a mild change.
*If a good thread already exists about this, please link it.*
Hey Peeps!
I have probably tried all ROM's (Sense & Stock) on my aging M8, and the only ROM that comes with good battery life is ARHD. But, as we all know, it has its weaknesses.
Waiting for responses from you guys!
We do not compare ROM's that has the greatest etc. The best way to find it out is to try each ROM which fits you.
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There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
XDA changed their rules some time ago to allow comparison threads as long as they dont turn into a flame war. Please keep this thread civil and respect everyone opinion.
Thanks
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redpoint73 said:
There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
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what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
umesh.lk said:
what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
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I'm not that knowledgeable about kernels, and in particular don't mess much with custom kernels.
But what I would say, is that those questions aren't any more answerable then the previous points about custom ROM vs. battery life. Overclocking and undervolting allowed by custom kernels, as well as the choice of governors (which provide various balances of performance versus power usage) will all have some affect on battery life. But the experience is going to vary greatly from one user to another.
Similar to trying custom ROMs, just make a TWRP backup before flashing anything; try some custom kernels, or tweaking kernel settings; and see if the results are desirable to you.
The only real "bad" thing about custom kernels, is that some settings may result in instability, boot loops or no boot. But as long as you make a TWRP backup (before flashing kernels or changing kernel settings), you can easily recover from any such problems.
You also may or may not get the performance or battery life you are looking for, from custom kernels. Which is the main reason I've not been one to personally mess with custom kernels too much. With what kernel tweaking I did on other devices, I never saw a significant performance difference. And certainly not enough to warrant the hassles of system crashes and no boots I was getting.
But others will swear by custom kernels, different governors, etc. Again, your results can and will vary. So that is why its best to try for yourself; and not take another's advice as gospel.
Viper rom is quite good.
Anybody body know if there's any stock Android Pie builds in development? Something smooth, clean, and silky? Man! I sure do miss Bugless Beast! By Alfonso in Nexus days.
Thanks guys!
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Anybody body know if there's any stock Android Pie builds in development? Something smooth, clean, and silky? Man! I sure do miss Bugless Beast! By Alfonso in Nexus days.
Thanks guys!
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Just curious...what are you looking for specifically that is special/unique that doesn't exist in actual Stock Roms provided monthly by Google? Can't get more stock than actual Stock.
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Just curious...what are you looking for specifically that is special/unique that doesn't exist in actual Stock Roms provided monthly by Google? Can't get more stock than actual Stock.
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Usually that would be a developer that's based solely on stock that would keep the graphics drivers updated with speed tweaks Etc. But it looks like those days are gone.
LOVE ME PLEASE said:
Usually that would be a developer that's based solely on stock that would keep the graphics drivers updated with speed tweaks Etc. But it looks like those days are gone.
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Back in the OG Droid, Droid Razr Maxx days I used to fully invest time and energy to run custom Roms as I also wanted to take advantage of overclocking CPU to maximize the performance of my device (which typically were underclocked by the OEMs). But, I haven't had to go that route in some time. I find the Stock experience provided by Google to be pretty good from a performance standpoint and the Pixel XL experience as far as monthly updates has also been exceptional. If you still have your heart set on having control of CPU clock speed settings and additional custom tweaks not available in the Stock experience - you should look at some of the custom kernels (or Roms) available. I believe there are custom kernels that will run with the true Stock Rom that will provide you greater flexibility.
Good luck.
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Back in the OG Droid, Droid Razr Maxx days I used to fully invest time and energy to run custom Roms as I also wanted to take advantage of overclocking CPU to maximize the performance of my device (which typically were underclocked by the OEMs). But, I haven't had to go that route in some time. I find the Stock experience provided by Google to be pretty good from a performance standpoint and the Pixel XL experience as far as monthly updates has also been exceptional. If you still have your heart set on having control of CPU clock speed settings and additional custom tweaks not available in the Stock experience - you should look at some of the custom kernels (or Roms) available. I believe there are custom kernels that will run with the true Stock Rom that will provide you greater flexibility.
Good luck.
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Thanks!
Funny, I am currently running an custom Kernel on top of stock Android. You're absolutely right about Google's stock builds and performance. You gave great information because that's in fact what I am doing to date. Custom ROMs today are becoming too bloated with issues and issues. Again, thanks, and have a great day.
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Thanks!
Funny, I am currently running an custom Kernel on top of stock Android. You're absolutely right about Google's stock builds and performance. You gave great information because that's in fact what I am doing to date. Custom ROMs today are becoming too bloated with issues and issues. Again, thanks, and have a great day.
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I have been thinking about at least experimenting with a custom kernel. Out of curiousity - which one are you running and what has been your experience? Why did you opt for the one you chose? (battery life, performance tweaks, customizations, etc...)?
Thanks
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I have been thinking about at least experimenting with a custom kernel. Out of curiousity - which one are you running and what has been your experience? Why did you opt for the one you chose? (battery life, performance tweaks, customizations, etc...)?
Thanks
S
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ElementalX Kernel.
Well, I picked this one mostly because he's an OG of the kernel scene. I personally don't do anything extra as far as extra features. But I just keep the script on his preferred settings, and I click install. I'm not into the overclocking, but I'm not too shy to underclock. I usually install custom kernels because of security updates and performance updates that they add due to Google's monthly developer updates.
You're welcome, no worries.
So I just picked up a pixel 3 and the battery life is fairly mixed but I guess I was spoiled with my previous device (Oneplus 5).
Will installing a custom kernel improve my battery life? I haven't really bothered since my Galaxy S2 which was a shambles.
If so, are there any specific kernels which aim to do this by default?
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So I just picked up a pixel 3 and the battery life is fairly mixed but I guess I was spoiled with my previous device (Oneplus 5).
Will installing a custom kernel improve my battery life? I haven't really bothered since my Galaxy S2 which was a shambles.
If so, are there any specific kernels which aim to do this by default?
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Today, stock Google kernels are very efficient. Most kernel devs will tell you the same. There is just not much margin left for them to improve upon battery-wise. That being said I use EX Kernel because I like the ability to tinker and have more control over the phone. I like EX's battery monitor that is part of his kernel manager. There are quite a few good custom kernels out there. If you haven't done so already, just lurk in one or two of the kernel threads and see what people are discussing. With respect to your current battery life, don't forget to give it several full charging cycles and in a week or so it will likely show an improvement. That, and you're probably "playing" with it more and that will wear off too! :laugh:
There will be none to negligible difference. Custom kernels are more for staying up to date with incremental kernel patches and other upstream stuff as well as things like color and haptic control.
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And to fix memory management issues