Hi everyone! I've decided that the G4 is the right phone for me. After using the G3 for 8 months and bouncing back between the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 and the Nexus 6 for the past few months, I've come to the conclusion that 5.5" screen size is perfect for my use and hand size - but I have a few questions before biting the bullet and ordering one.
I'll be switching over to T-Mobile for use here in the states from AT&T. Since I travel quite a bit to Europe, the H815 will cover the frequencies/bands I need to connect to data networks over there. My question is this - will the H815 version that's available to pre order support things like HD voice and WiFi calling? Or is this something that T-Mobile has to implement on to their phones and as a result, I must purchase their version of the phone? The HD voice isn't as important as the WiFi calling, I feel as if that is something worth purchasing the T-Mobile version for.
Cheers!
I believe you need the T-mo version for wifi calling. That's something they integrate into their version of the OS.
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Wrightperspective is correct. The H815 has no native Wifi calling ability.
Wrightperspective said:
I believe you need the T-mo version for wifi calling. That's something they integrate into their version of the OS.
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I see you're using the H811 model - that's the T-Mobile specific version, no?
And since I'll need the T-Mobile version, I now need to consider the LTE bands/frequencies of the T-Mobile version to ensure I'll have data whenever I travel to Europe.
Edit: I suppose some more food for thought could go towards ROM's and what not. Is it fair to assume that the H815 model will receive more support from devs since it's the international version and what not? I honestly think I'm okay with no WiFi calling if it means getting an unlocked bootloader quicker/more ROM support from the lovely XDA community.
AhsanU said:
I see you're using the H811 model - that's the T-Mobile specific version, no?
And since I'll need the T-Mobile version, I now need to consider the LTE bands/frequencies of the T-Mobile version to ensure I'll have data whenever I travel to Europe.
Edit: I suppose some more food for thought could go towards ROM's and what not. Is it fair to assume that the H815 model will receive more support from devs since it's the international version and what not? I honestly think I'm okay with no WiFi calling if it means getting an unlocked bootloader quicker/more ROM support from the lovely XDA community.
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It is always hard to predict what model will get dev support before it happens. Sometimes a phone with a world version will still get more support on one of the individual carrier versions. As for the frequencies, I did a brief compare based on the published information for the 810, 811, 815 over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60992462&postcount=30
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Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
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Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
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Though I don't live in US, I don't think you could add phone feature by changing the rom.
I think you would have to have the international version that permits calls. I'm not sure if that will work in the states though because of frequencies etc.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build N5120XXCMH2 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SphereXtreme-REV on Telstra LTE
If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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I bought one from amazon and it had calling capability. Should be the same for all of them.
The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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I use a note 8 LTE as my phone here in UK and am absolutly loving it....had to change from 3 mobile to O2 as 3 dont allow phone sims in tablets, seems O2 do cos its been working fine for about 3-4 weeks.
Rather than look foolish with a tablet next to my ear I purchased a galaxy gear which is not fully working as I am on stock 4.2.
Got rid of my note 2 and note 10.1 and have just a note 8, best thing I ever did!!!
I'm thinking of buying an LG G3, but I wanted to know what the USA unlocked (no carrier) model number is, and I've had trouble finding it. Any help?
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I'm thinking of buying an LG G3, but I wanted to know what the USA unlocked (no carrier) model number is, and I've had trouble finding it. Any help?
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You've had trouble finding it because it doesn't exist.
What carrier are you looking to use it on?
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You've had trouble finding it because it doesn't exist.
What carrier are you looking to use it on?
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Consumer Cellular. I have to buy my phones off-contract to use them with my carrier. It runs on AT&T's network.
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Consumer Cellular. I have to buy my phones off-contract to use them with my carrier. It runs on AT&T's network.
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Ok you'll probably want to use the T-Mobile variant and get it unlocked. You don't actually want to use an AT&T phone on an AT&T MVNO (like Consumer Cellular), because the intrusive AT&T bloatware doesn't leave you alone, but it's useless on anything other than AT&T itself (AT&T Address Book is particularly vile). T-Mobile's bloat is lower key and tends to go away if you want it to.
The T-Mobile variant (D851) will support HSPA on the frequencies Consumer Cellular uses. It also supports LTE Bands 17, 4, and 2, which Consumer Cellular/AT&T uses. The only problem might be LTE Band 5, which the D851 does NOT support. That's the downside, though thankfully AT&T doesn't seem to be using 850 Mhz for LTE all that much.
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Ok you'll probably want to use the T-Mobile variant and get it unlocked. You don't actually want to use an AT&T phone on an AT&T MVNO (like Consumer Cellular), because the intrusive AT&T bloatware doesn't leave you alone, but it's useless on anything other than AT&T itself (AT&T Address Book is particularly vile). T-Mobile's bloat is lower key and tends to go away if you want it to.
The T-Mobile variant (D851) will support HSPA on the frequencies Consumer Cellular uses. It also supports LTE Bands 17, 4, and 2, which Consumer Cellular/AT&T uses. The only problem might be LTE Band 5, which the D851 does NOT support. That's the downside, though thankfully AT&T doesn't seem to be using 850 Mhz for LTE all that much.
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Thank you for that info! But also, are both models able to be rooted and bootloader unlocked? I'm a huge root user and I always uninstall bloat anyways. But I want to make sure that I can also unlock the bootloader so I could install a custom rom like CM11.
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Thank you for that info! But also, are both models able to be rooted and bootloader unlocked? I'm a huge root user and I always uninstall bloat anyways. But I want to make sure that I can also unlock the bootloader so I could install a custom rom like CM11.
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The T-Mobile version's bootloader is unlocked, the AT&T one is not. Both have been rooted at this point, but LG's big on not updating rooted devices, so I haven't bothered rooting. I don't know if the G3 will actively block updates on a rooted device like the G2 and OGP did, but it's certainly possible, and I won't get enough from rooting that I actually care about to make me want to try.
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The T-Mobile version's bootloader is unlocked, the AT&T one is not. Both have been rooted at this point, but LG's big on not updating rooted devices, so I haven't bothered rooting. I don't know if the G3 will actively block updates on a rooted device like the G2 and OGP did, but it's certainly possible, and I won't get enough from rooting that I actually care about to make me want to try.
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Wait so are you saying the T-Mobile version comes bootloader unlocked, or tha you can't unlock the AT&T's bootloader?
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Wait so are you saying the T-Mobile version comes bootloader unlocked, or tha you can't unlock the AT&T's bootloader?
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The T-Mobile version comes bootloader unlocked.
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The T-Mobile version comes bootloader unlocked.
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And you can not unlock the AT&T version's bootloader?
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And you can not unlock the AT&T version's bootloader?
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Only the T-Mobile model is bootloader unlocked. Every other model is locked down currently.
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Thank you for that info! But also, are both models able to be rooted and bootloader unlocked? I'm a huge root user and I always uninstall bloat anyways. But I want to make sure that I can also unlock the bootloader so I could install a custom rom like CM11.
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The AT&T D850's bootloader is locked. I have one. I'm also a huge fan of Rooting and loading CM11, but the new LG interface isn't bad enough to make me do all that. Unlike the Touch Jizz Crap I had on my S3 with Sprint. I couldn't root that phone and load CM11 fast enough on that device. It's a shame too, the S3 is actually a really nice phone for it's time. The G3 actually runs pretty smoothly and the bloat wares aren't really in my face all the time. The only one I find annoying is that freaking ATT address book crap which will some day force me to root this phone and kill it. Good thing that the Root method is already available for the Verizon and ATT variants of G3.
Some one said you won't be able to find the US unlocked version of the G3, he's right so far. I was on that boat too. I couldn't wait to get my switch to the new G3 and Amazon, Bestbuy, or even freaking going to the phone stores such as ATT or T-Mobile would sell it. I forgot to think of ATT and T-mobile as a service provider instead of a phone store because they obviously only wanted to sell plans and the phones are pretty much accessories of those plans.
Anyways, long story short, I got my unlocked G3 (ATT version) via ebay. Then I used it on Straight Talk. Everything works the way they are suppose to and I am getting ATT LTE speeds too, just at half the price. There are only 2 things that doesn't quite work. One is sending and receiving MMS. The other is visual voicemail. MMS thing, I still have to call straight talk up and deal with their infamous customer service. The visual voicemail thing, I just use youmail and it works ok and an alternative. Some ads here and there, and the interface isn't the best in the world, but at least it works. It's a shame that LG doesn't sell their own unlocked phones via their own website like HTC does.
So I was talking to a Samsung rep at a Best Buy and she told me they may release a Developers Edition of the Note 4. I Googled it and see confirmation that there will be a Developers edition and that it will be sold through Verizon but not subsidized to any carrier. It should be released mid-November and cost around $660.00 Full Price.
That being said, does anyone plan to get the Dev Edition in order to Root/ROM? I am still rocking my Galaxy S3 but may end up going with the Note 4 so long as it has full Root/ROM.
I already have a note 4 but i might...Is it going to be able to use AT&T's 4G LTE? or only H+?
It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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Verizon uses sim cards now too. They use it for their 4g. If a verizon phone is unlocked it can be used on AT&T but usually only with H+. I just didn't know if there was a different case with this one. Why is verizon getting all of the good phones? Droid turbo and now this?
I'll probably wait until it does release to see if its compatible with AT&T but I definitely require it to be LTE and not just H+. Hopefully it is a fully unlocked device with all of the bands needed to work with AT&T.
If that's true I might even sell mine to get it
It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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Just maybe like verizon's previous iphones that worked on att and tmobile just fine. But still doesnt make sense a developer version just for verizon, we know most developers are on gsm, jk
Okay so I have a tan Lg g4 T-Mobile model and my friend offered me his black international g4 since mine is tan. We were going to trade covers but I noticed the volume buttons colors won't match... So anyways which model do you think is better ? Should I get the international one ?
If the international one is the bootloader-unlockable European one, I'd say it's better for the aforementioned bootloader unlockability.
How do I check to make sure it is?
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How do I check to make sure it is?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/discussion-unlock-root-situations-please-t3122752 your answer is here
How do I make sure its the Europe one though ?
It's personal preference but T-Mobile G4 has Wi-Fi calling. Honestly I take advantage of it a lot since my department is under basement where non of carriers get signal through. If you don't fancy Wi-Fi calling, I guess unlocked G4 might be more interesting.
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Yea I don't really use WiFi calling anyways haha. Do you know if I would get lte on T-Mobile with the h815 g4
Hey, I plan to buy my Galaxy so from Samsung rather than my carrier (ATT). I have a couple questions. Will I just be able to add the Sim currently in my Galaxy say or will I need a new one? Also, will I have to take it into the store?
Just put your existing soon card in and away you go. No need for anything else. It's what I did when I got my Note 8 from Samsung.
If you buy it from Samsung, the phone it's unlocked, so you can use any valid SIM (including the one you are currently using now).
Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
The carrier versions will have the standard carrier bloat pre-installed.
I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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And if you have an s8 or other qualifying phone you can get a total of $450 off I believe on Friday from Best Buy.
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I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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It looks like the answer to our question is on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
The T-Mobile version seems to be missing the following, in comparison to the unlocked US version:
4G FDD LTE B71 (600 mhz) - This is T-Mobile's new spectrum... this seems important to have (just google t-mobile 600mhz)
2G CDMA and 3G CDMA - I don't believe this matters to us
3G TD-SCDMA B34 and B39 (2010 and 1880mhz) - I assume these will be missed if outside LTE coverage?
But in general, the unlocked version seems to support more bands than the Tmo version
So, it seems if one is on the T-Mobile network and plans to stay there, they really should get the T-Mobile version of the phone.... someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
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You do know that unlocked isn't meaning unlocked bootloader right? It's meaning unlocked bands
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I'm with AT&T and I'm pretty sure there will be no wifi calling on any phone other than the AT&T version. That's a feature I want. If it doesn't matter to you an unlocked phone may be for you. I don't know for a fact that wifi calling won't work on an unlocked S9 but if it does, it will be the first. I don't want the extra carrier apps but they aren't going to cause me any grief on a beast like this phone. I'd rather have the services the carrier provides if I'm going to use them. If It turns out that wifi calling works on the unlocked S9, I may revise my plan but I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty much done with the rooting/modding stuff so that isn't an issue. Even the master hackers are going with stock phones d/t the features and security.