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Not quite sure how to flash custom roms on this phone ...

While there are plenty of guides describing how to root and flash recovery + a custom rom none of them seem to state how to without htcdev since we're now locked out of it. I would prefer root but mostly just want a rom other than stock. Did some searching and couldn't find anything I could be sure was current. Any help would mean a lot, thank you.

vpxf said:
While there are plenty of guides describing how to root and flash recovery + a custom rom none of them seem to state how to without htcdev since we're now locked out of it. I would prefer root but mostly just want a rom other than stock. Did some searching and couldn't find anything I could be sure was current. Any help would mean a lot, thank you.
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You can't install another ROM until you do have root access. Search in the various Verizon HTC One Subforums for "rumrunner".

jpradley said:
You can't install another ROM until you do have root access. Search in the various Verizon HTC One Subforums for "rumrunner".
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Oh, I saw that but I thought that was for something else. So that is the safest method for root these days? Weird needing root to flash a ROM when usually you just need a recovery..

vpxf said:
Oh, I saw that but I thought that was for something else. So that is the safest method for root these days? Weird needing root to flash a ROM when usually you just need a recovery..
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Rumrunner if you are on the pre-4.3 software. Otherwise you will have to wait for rumrunner to be updated. Rumrunner does both s-off and root in one shot.
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It's not about root. To flash custom roms you need an unlocked boot loader. Since HTCDev is not an option for the Verizon HTC One, you need to use Rumrunner. Rumrunner gives you S-off and unlocks your bootloader. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery and you are set to start flashing custom roms, rooted or not rooted.
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xenakis said:
It's not about root. To flash custom roms you need an unlocked boot loader. Since HTCDev is not an option for the Verizon HTC One, you need to use Rumrunner. Rumrunner gives you S-off and unlocks your bootloader. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery and you are set to start flashing custom roms, rooted or not rooted.
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Not quite. Rumrunner just does the S-OFF & Root portion. I remember quite distinctly thinking Rumrunner would do everything, but after Rumrunner I still couldn't fastboot flash a custom recovery.
I had to change my CID to the SuperCID, then grab an unlock token from HTCDev so I could unlock the bootloader before I could use fastboot to push in a custom recovery. Pretty tedious, but not difficult and now I'm fully unlocked everywhere.
The important thing to remember is that we sort of operate backwards from most HTC devices. Most people just get to do an HTCDev unlock and then an S-OFF exploit afterwards is optional. S-OFF lifts the restriction on super-important places like the radio on bootloader. A bootloader unlock will let you mess with /system, recovery, and sometimes the kernel.

I used rumrunner and did not have to use HTCDev unlock token or change CID in order to unlock bootloader to fastboot flash custom recovery. Rumrunner unlocks the bootloader for you, so no need for HTCDev. Did your rumrunner process complete successfully without any hitches?
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I have used Rumrunner on 5 different VZW HTC One phones. Once complete, you just need to flash the recovery of your choice. Nothing else is needed.
Rumrunner is an amazing tool but can be kind of finicky to finally get S-off. Just make sure you follow the directions EXACTLY and if you have Windows 8.1, good luck. I suggest using a Windows 7 machine or Ubuntu using Live USB if you don't have a native Ubuntu machine. VMware is NOT supported for Rumrunner.

Well, no matter I'm on JellyBean 4.3 and it would seem, as mentioned, that I'm out of luck for now. The information may come in handy later, or may change even.
Just becoming quite annoyed with Google Now always popping up because I slid my finger wrong Also, can't help but wonder how much longer my battery would potentially work with full root access to remove some of the background data bloat.

[Q] Back To Stock

I have an AT&T M8 with 4.4.3
Its unlocked and rooted, firewater was unsuccessful with this error....****** device patched by HTC, you are out of luck *********.
Is there any way to return to stock without S-Off?? If so could someone please point me in the right direction?
I'm a newbie with htc and very aggravated with this phone.

skullymullins said:
I have an AT&T M8 with 4.4.3
Its unlocked and rooted, firewater was unsuccessful with this error....****** device patched by HTC, you are out of luck *********.
Is there any way to return to stock without S-Off?? If so could someone please point me in the right direction?
I'm a newbie with htc and very aggravated with this phone.
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Can you provide me with the link that says you need to be S-OFF to get your phone back to stock, where you clearly didn't have to be S-OFF in order to take it away from stock in the first place?
I'm asking this because you are one of many that I've seen recently that comes on here asking the same question, can I go back to stock while I'm still S-ON ? "Should I be S-OFF in order to restore a nandroid backup?" etc...I would really like to know where you guys get this information from?
The only thing that you'll need S-OFF for(when going back to stock) is to fix the tampered flag in the bootloader and to have it show "locked" instead of "relocked" when or if you locked the bootloader.
That being said, going back to stock from where? Did you flash custom ROMs? Or are you only rooted and unlocked?

My phone is stock, but unlocked with root, my main goal is to reload the original recovery, relock and unroot.
I was watching a video on how to use RUU and according to the instructions you had to be S-Off.

Anyone
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skullymullins said:
My phone is stock, but unlocked with root, my main goal is to reload the original recovery, relock and unroot.
I was watching a video on how to use RUU and according to the instructions you had to be S-Off.
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You need S-Off only when you want to remove TAMPERED and RELOCKED flags.
Other than that, you don't need S-OFF
You have AT&T device, AT&T forum is where you'll find more info.
Try this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...-2-23-502-3-bootable-ruu-pc-required-t2860486
Important note :
S-On - you need to relock bootloader first before running it. So read and read the instructions
and there are many more guides on AT&T forum

skullymullins said:
Anyone
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You could use the AT&T RUU that is available on the AT&T forum.
At&t 2.23.502.3 - 4.4.3 Bootable RUU - No PC required - Mac friendly
Like the OP there said, if you are S-ON you should lock the bootloader first before using the RUU. I think that should take care of most of the other issues you have, like unrooting etc. Make a backup of any personal stuff you have on phone.
Or
Download unsupersu, flash it in custom recovery to unroot device. If you use SuperSU you can also go into settings for SuperSU and use Full Unroot. Reboot phone, can then uninstall SuperSU. Should be unrooted.
Flash back stock recovery for your device.
Relock bootloader - fastboot oem lock

Will this also restore the factory recovery instead of twrp that is on the phone now?

skullymullins said:
Will this also restore the factory recovery instead of twrp that is on the phone now?
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That's also in that very same thread we linked you to!
Post number 7
Post number 15
But I take it you didn't read at least the first 2 pages...
It'll take you back to stock completely, like the OP said in Post 15.
Just remember to relock your bootloader seeing as you're S-ON.

Thanks for your patience and help,
it worked flawlessly.

HTC one m8 s-OFF

I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
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KARIM9377 said:
I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
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The only way to S-OFF is to use SunShine @ http://theroot.ninja which will cost $25 respectively.

KARIM9377 said:
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
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Its not clear to me why you want s-off.
You only need stock ROM (no system files altered by root) and stock recovery to OTA. Relocking bootloader is not necessary. Its only necessary to relock bootloader to RUU (when s-on).

Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates

EddyOS said:
Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates
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Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Firewater doesn't work AT ALL, Sunshine is the ONLY way to S-OFF a phone but it's not compatible with Lollipop

KARIM9377 said:
Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.

redpoint73 said:
firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.
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The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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KARIM9377 said:
The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.

redpoint73 said:
As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.
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Thank you for your advice I will root and flash TWRP recovery and backup the stack Rom and then flash custom Rom
Thank you for your help
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Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?

nighthawk696969 said:
Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
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Of course, that's what this forum section if for!
nighthawk696969 said:
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?
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I actually did s-off back when firewater was still working, before sunshine even existed. So I can't speak from personal experience, just what I've read on these forums. I believe that the sunshine app gives you the options to temp root, s-off, and unlock the bootloader (by means that bypasses HTCDev.com). So that is probably what the previous owner did.
With s-off there isn't ever a need to relock the bootloader, and therefore no need to unlock it again with the bin code. RUUs will run with bootloader unlocked when s-off. And you can change the hboot flag to LOCKED for warranty purposes with s-off.
If for some reason you want to relock and then unlock the bootloader again, you can just go through the HTCDev.com process to get a new bin code. But its not advised. As I don't see why you would ever want to relock (for the reasons just given). And once you go through HTCDev.com, HTC will have a record of you doing so (which they do not at this time).

Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
Thanks again!

nighthawk696969 said:
Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
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No idea, I've never used MultiROM, and not that familiar with it. Hopefully, someone who knows will chime in. Or you can post to the MultiROM thread to possibly get a quicker answer.

[Q] htc update after root (please answer quick )

So i am at noob at this but just asking before doing something wrong
Can i use rom updates from HTC while im rooted with a unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery and skydragon rom ???

I believe that will give you an RUU, which you technically can use to put your phone back into a stock state. I would recommend relocking your bootloader first if you dont have S-OFF, as it seems to get in the way of RUU's from time to time. Keep in mind that this process will put you back to stock Sense and will wipe your data.

dima470 said:
I would recommend relocking your bootloader first if you dont have S-OFF, as it seems to get in the way of RUU's from time to time.
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Unlocked bootloader will get in the way of RUU every time if you are s-on.
Relocked or locked bootloader is absolutely mandatory to run an official RUU with s-on.

some info please

I'm wanting to go custom but do I really need s_off and supercid or can I just unlock boot loader and be happy lol. I'm using a UK m8

No need S-Off
What you need :
The device now on Marshmallow firmware 6.xx.xxx.x
Unlocked Bootloader
Latest TWRP
Custom ROM

ckpv5 said:
No need S-Off
What you need :
The device now on Marshmallow firmware 6.xx.xxx.x
Unlocked Bootloader
Latest TWRP
Custom ROM
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Hopefully I'll be ba Co here later all custom

ttocs99 said:
I'm wanting to go custom but do I really need s_off and supercid or can I just unlock boot loader and be happy lol. I'm using a UK m8
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I think you are confusing custom ROMs with stock (HTC) ROMs (RUU).
Custom ROMs (as mentioned): s-on if fine, just need unlocked bootloader, and custom recovery TWRP
Stock/official ROM (RUU): If you are changing carrier/region versions, you need s-off and change the CID (or SuperCID). But this is not recommended nor necessary for most folks (only suggested for experienced users, with the proper circumstances).