While there are plenty of guides describing how to root and flash recovery + a custom rom none of them seem to state how to without htcdev since we're now locked out of it. I would prefer root but mostly just want a rom other than stock. Did some searching and couldn't find anything I could be sure was current. Any help would mean a lot, thank you.
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While there are plenty of guides describing how to root and flash recovery + a custom rom none of them seem to state how to without htcdev since we're now locked out of it. I would prefer root but mostly just want a rom other than stock. Did some searching and couldn't find anything I could be sure was current. Any help would mean a lot, thank you.
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You can't install another ROM until you do have root access. Search in the various Verizon HTC One Subforums for "rumrunner".
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You can't install another ROM until you do have root access. Search in the various Verizon HTC One Subforums for "rumrunner".
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Oh, I saw that but I thought that was for something else. So that is the safest method for root these days? Weird needing root to flash a ROM when usually you just need a recovery..
vpxf said:
Oh, I saw that but I thought that was for something else. So that is the safest method for root these days? Weird needing root to flash a ROM when usually you just need a recovery..
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Rumrunner if you are on the pre-4.3 software. Otherwise you will have to wait for rumrunner to be updated. Rumrunner does both s-off and root in one shot.
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It's not about root. To flash custom roms you need an unlocked boot loader. Since HTCDev is not an option for the Verizon HTC One, you need to use Rumrunner. Rumrunner gives you S-off and unlocks your bootloader. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery and you are set to start flashing custom roms, rooted or not rooted.
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xenakis said:
It's not about root. To flash custom roms you need an unlocked boot loader. Since HTCDev is not an option for the Verizon HTC One, you need to use Rumrunner. Rumrunner gives you S-off and unlocks your bootloader. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery and you are set to start flashing custom roms, rooted or not rooted.
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Not quite. Rumrunner just does the S-OFF & Root portion. I remember quite distinctly thinking Rumrunner would do everything, but after Rumrunner I still couldn't fastboot flash a custom recovery.
I had to change my CID to the SuperCID, then grab an unlock token from HTCDev so I could unlock the bootloader before I could use fastboot to push in a custom recovery. Pretty tedious, but not difficult and now I'm fully unlocked everywhere.
The important thing to remember is that we sort of operate backwards from most HTC devices. Most people just get to do an HTCDev unlock and then an S-OFF exploit afterwards is optional. S-OFF lifts the restriction on super-important places like the radio on bootloader. A bootloader unlock will let you mess with /system, recovery, and sometimes the kernel.
I used rumrunner and did not have to use HTCDev unlock token or change CID in order to unlock bootloader to fastboot flash custom recovery. Rumrunner unlocks the bootloader for you, so no need for HTCDev. Did your rumrunner process complete successfully without any hitches?
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I have used Rumrunner on 5 different VZW HTC One phones. Once complete, you just need to flash the recovery of your choice. Nothing else is needed.
Rumrunner is an amazing tool but can be kind of finicky to finally get S-off. Just make sure you follow the directions EXACTLY and if you have Windows 8.1, good luck. I suggest using a Windows 7 machine or Ubuntu using Live USB if you don't have a native Ubuntu machine. VMware is NOT supported for Rumrunner.
Well, no matter I'm on JellyBean 4.3 and it would seem, as mentioned, that I'm out of luck for now. The information may come in handy later, or may change even.
Just becoming quite annoyed with Google Now always popping up because I slid my finger wrong Also, can't help but wonder how much longer my battery would potentially work with full root access to remove some of the background data bloat.
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Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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You mean can you use a computer running ubuntu to s-off your phone? Not that im aware of, but it might be possible. What android version and hboot are you on?
Albinoman said:
Can i get s-off with Ubuntu 10.04? I already have root now i need s-off.
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Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
tiny4579 said:
Go to unrevoked.com and click unrevoked forever and follow the links to transfer the HBOOT flashable zip that will enable S-OFF. You also may have to downgrade your radio to do it. It can work in ubuntu. Wait what am I saying? The OS you're running doesn't matter as all you need to do is read the instructions on unrevoked.com and transfer the zip file as directed there.
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Will that work with the new hboot though?
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
Albinoman said:
Guys im on aokp 4.0.4 and have hboot-1.02
P.S. Im a dev for the droid 2 so im not a scared little newb lol
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Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
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Cant hurt to try unrevoked forever patch http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever, but you will need to downgrade the radio to a supported version. Not sure if an unlocked bootloader will let you flash a radio or not.
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It should allow it. It allows fastboot when my .92 bootloader didn't. Not sure about if S-OFF will even work on 1.02. I always thought it was more open than S-OFF since it was released on the Inc.
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
Ok now im confused.
musical_chairs said:
You can easily unlock the bootloader the HTC dev way using Ubuntu. This will allow you to flash a custom recovery, and from there, custom ROM's, stuff like that. To get true s-off, though, the easy way is to use Unrevoked Forever, and that requires a Windows machine (and it won't work in Virtualbox either, at least it didn't for me). I think there are other (older) guides for getting s-off that use adb, and those methods would work just fine in Ubuntu. I found it easier to boot into Windows.
Edit: I'm not sure if you can get s-off after you're on the 1.02 bootloader.
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His bootloader already is unlocked.
Unrevoked requires a pc, unrevoked forever does not.
I have never heard of using adb to get s-off, other than using it to downgrade to froyo to use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Speaking of, you could downgrade to froyo and then use unrevoked to get root and s-off. Check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258, you would want to start at step 28, as i assume you have already done 1 - 27, htcdev unlock bootloader, fastboot flash cwm, flash su thru recovery, and install busybox. You will need adb and fastboot setup on your pc to downgrade.
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
Albinoman said:
At the top of the bootloader screen it says Locked (oow). Even though i already unlocked my bootloader.
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Do you still have the unlock_code.bin file htc gave you when you unlocked it? May still be on your computet in the same folder where fastboot.exe is. If so fastboot flash it back to the phone ( fastboot flash unlocktoken unlock_code.bin )
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
Albinoman said:
Actually i do! I found the email they sent it in. But my computer wont even notice my phone while in fastboot
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Try calling the fastboot binary with sudo. I had that problem on Mint but only for the Inc not the Nexus and using sudo for fastboot solved it.
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
godsmacked4653 said:
Pretty sure you're going to need s-off for the kernels and radios. Everything else should be fine.
If you've got a custom recovery installed, though, you should be able to s-off with Unrevoked forever by just flashing an update.zip. Unless there's an issue with the newer firmware that I'm unaware of.
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Don't i need to change my radio to flash the unrevoked?
Albinoman said:
Ok guys my bootloader is now unlocked. Can i flash anything i want now or do i still need s-off to flash kernels and radios?
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Do you have cwm recovery, superuser, and busybox installed?
Im not sure what all you can flash thru hboot with an unlocked bootloader. But you can flash roms mods and kernels thru cwm recovery.
If you can flash radios thru hboot, downgrade to a unrevoked supported radio, and then try flashing the unrevoked forever zip thru cwm recovery and see if it gives you s-off.
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
Albinoman said:
I have everything installed. So at this moment i could flash a kernel?
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Yes you should be able to flash kernels thru cwm recovery just like you would a rom or a mod.
I made a mistake rooting a friends droid incredible and left s-on, I have clockwork but it cant flash anything, I presume its because of the s-on. I wiped the phone without a backup to install miui, so I now have a droid incredible that can only get into hboot, clockwork, and fastboot. It also will not install 31img.zips, Yes ive renamed them correctly I just call them 31's. Help please?
You need to flash an RUU in the form of PB31IMG.zip. It needs to be named PB31IMG.zip and on the root of a FAT32 formatted sdcard. If you use the froyo RUU on pvillecomp.com you can use unrevoked to root again though your friend will just want it working.
My HBOOT wont give me the option to flash, it finds it and checks it, but wont let me install. im downloading the froyo ruu right now in hopes that it will connect through fastboot and do it.
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
(sorry for double post) RUU's will not work
deathangel1496 said:
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
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Have you used the htc dev site to unkock the bootloader? If not you need to do that, then fastboot flash cwm recovery, then flash superuser thru cwm recovery.
SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
tiny4579 said:
actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
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That is probably true, I never thought of that. I guess they probably think that I have an unlocked bootloader now too since I made an account and downloaded the tool to help a friend with his phone.
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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I may be mistaken, but isn't this what you are looking for?
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22
additionally, why did you flash stock recovery vs. CWM? I don't have any experience with stock but CWM seems to be perfect for anything I've ever needed a recovery for. ie - flashing new ROMs or backing up/ restoring ROMs
deathangel1496 said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Do steps 6 - 27 of this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 to install cwm recovery and get root. If you want true s-off continue to follow steps 28 - 43.
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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S-OFF enables you to do whatever you want to your phone. If you run rumrunner it will give you s-off, root, and an unlocked bootloader.
Once run rumrunner, then you will want to flash a custom recovery to make a back up and install a new rom.
You should be familiar with adb commands before trying rumrunner.
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kalestar said:
Hey everyone. Just got a new HTC one yay. I am coming from a moterola droid bionic where all i had to do was root, install recovery and flash whatever ROMs I wanted. All this s-off and unlocked boot loader stuff is confusing. Can someone explain to me what are the benefits of these options and which I should use. Sorry for the noob question. Thanks!
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Yeah, things were a bit simpler in Motorola land. Having come from the Droid 3, here is what I know so far.
You cannot permanently root the Stock build by default. This is due to some special write protection on the /system mount. I don't know the details but it is more than a remount command can take care of.
Unlocking the bootloader, most often associated with the htcdev.com site, allows you to flash a custom bootloader, and in turn flash custom roms that have root built-in and bypass the previously mentioned write protection. From what I can tell you still cannot flash the radio at this level.
S-Off is the big one. With S-Off you can do anything, including changing partition sizes, flashing radios, and all that fun stuff.
rumrunner is the program that unlocks the phone. It performs a S-Off, Bootloader Unlock, and roots the device in one package. Once you run it on your phone you will be able to load a custom bootloader and flash just as you would any other phone.
If anybody with more experience wants to correct me please do so. Like I said I am still learning the terms and technology.
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
kalestar said:
Okay. Why would I do s-off instead of htcdev method? Is it so I could eventually flash new radio firmware? If so, what is the benefit of flashing new radio firmware? Thanks!
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For Verizon the htcdev method is not available. They closed it a few days after the phone was released. As of now we have two ways to unlock our phones
rumrunner - Full S-Off, Bootloader unlock, and Root
Java card - Costs money, gets you S-Off
The real short answer is just use rumrunner and you will be all set to flash
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
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Fine with what you have, unless you want *FULL* control.
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thanks thats what I though THANKS..
I have read quite a few posts as everyone is quite happy with s off finally here... I was concerned when I read a post that said you cannot flash a radio without s-off.
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
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jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
jbh00jh said:
I ran rumrunner and have s-off and unlocked with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4. But when I ran root checker it says I do not have root. What do I need to do to get root?
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Will try that now.
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Zynesterysdan said:
Have you flashed the supersu in recovery yet? That could be the reason.
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That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
emichroc said:
I'm on the edge program. The only thing I seem to the missing is how to unroot, s-on, and relock the boot loader when I give this back to vz. Would that be flashing the ruu?
Sorry if this has been covered somewhere else.
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Check out this thread - Return To Stock LOCKED and S-ON - I have not tried the method in there so I do not know if it works.
jbh00jh said:
Will try that now.
That worked. I thought that was part of the rumrunner flash, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks man.
Sent from my 4G LTE HTC One
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Rumrunners does do that. Something just went wrong during your process.
bsbuggs said:
I have a question...i was one of the lucky ones to get unlocked/rooted on day one from HTC/dev...I us sally flash a few roms but I'm not a crack flasher..am i good with what i have OR should i as-Off using rumrunner?
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I would s off. If you scree up something or flashing cm10 kills your baseband you won't be able to flash the decrypted ruu. As far as I know we don't have an official ruu to flash yet.
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I had htcdev unlock from the first day and have flashed some roms so I'm no longer stock. Is there any stock rom that I can flash and use rumrunner to get s-off?
I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
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KARIM9377 said:
I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda Forum
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The only way to S-OFF is to use SunShine @ http://theroot.ninja which will cost $25 respectively.
KARIM9377 said:
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
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Its not clear to me why you want s-off.
You only need stock ROM (no system files altered by root) and stock recovery to OTA. Relocking bootloader is not necessary. Its only necessary to relock bootloader to RUU (when s-on).
Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates
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Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates
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Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Firewater doesn't work AT ALL, Sunshine is the ONLY way to S-OFF a phone but it's not compatible with Lollipop
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Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.
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firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.
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The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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KARIM9377 said:
The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.
redpoint73 said:
As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.
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Thank you for your advice I will root and flash TWRP recovery and backup the stack Rom and then flash custom Rom
Thank you for your help
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Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?
nighthawk696969 said:
Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
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Of course, that's what this forum section if for!
nighthawk696969 said:
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?
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I actually did s-off back when firewater was still working, before sunshine even existed. So I can't speak from personal experience, just what I've read on these forums. I believe that the sunshine app gives you the options to temp root, s-off, and unlock the bootloader (by means that bypasses HTCDev.com). So that is probably what the previous owner did.
With s-off there isn't ever a need to relock the bootloader, and therefore no need to unlock it again with the bin code. RUUs will run with bootloader unlocked when s-off. And you can change the hboot flag to LOCKED for warranty purposes with s-off.
If for some reason you want to relock and then unlock the bootloader again, you can just go through the HTCDev.com process to get a new bin code. But its not advised. As I don't see why you would ever want to relock (for the reasons just given). And once you go through HTCDev.com, HTC will have a record of you doing so (which they do not at this time).
Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
Thanks again!
nighthawk696969 said:
Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
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No idea, I've never used MultiROM, and not that familiar with it. Hopefully, someone who knows will chime in. Or you can post to the MultiROM thread to possibly get a quicker answer.
I have an A5chl model 816 flashed with a nightly CM12
build. Its also rooted.
What I'd like to do is unroot, restore the stock recovery,
relock the bootloader and keep CM12 for the up to date security
patches.
I tried relocking the bootloader once and was locked into
only being able to boot into the bootloader (Was thankful to
find out relocking a previously unlocked loader doesn't
initiate any wipes!).
Is there any way to do this? Security-wise it seems the
best possible setup outside of someone owning a
Nexus device which has the latest fixes stock.
I read of a hack for HTC M8 devices which allow
relocking and unlocking the bootloader and reseting
the tampered flags, etc via adb shell commands.
I still have S-On, but something like this for the 816 would
be very welcome.
With all the Android security loopholes, going back to Stock seems
somehow less secure to me, even with a locked
bootloader.
Anyone?
reSpock said:
I have an A5chl model 816 flashed with a nightly CM12
build. Its also rooted.
What I'd like to do is unroot, restore the stock recovery,
relock the bootloader and keep CM12 for the up to date security
patches.
I tried relocking the bootloader once and was locked into
only being able to boot into the bootloader (Was thankful to
find out relocking a previously unlocked loader doesn't
initiate any wipes!).
Is there any way to do this? Security-wise it seems the
best possible setup outside of someone owning a
Nexus device which has the latest fixes stock.
I read of a hack for HTC M8 devices which allow
relocking and unlocking the bootloader and reseting
the tampered flags, etc via adb shell commands.
I still have S-On, but something like this for the 816 would
be very welcome.
With all the Android security loopholes, going back to Stock seems
somehow less secure to me, even with a locked
bootloader.
Anyone?
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If you're gonna still use cm12, then there is no point flashing stock recovery, as it is useless without stock software. Also, in order to lock and unlock like you say, you must pay 25$ to get the s-off. Although, I think your fine without relocking the bootlader. Good luck!
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the_Victorian said:
If you're gonna still use cm12, then there is no point flashing stock recovery, as it is useless without stock software. Also, in order to lock and unlock like you say, you must pay 25$ to get the s-off. Although, I think your fine without relocking the bootlader. Good luck!
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So there's no other way to get S-Off except using Sunshine or trying to
adapt the M8 adb hack to the 816?
I'm not interested in using recovery for backup and
restoration purposes really. It's about being more
secure. Everywhere I've read says CWM is pretty
insecure and having an unlocked bootloader even
more so.
Why do you think it's fine having an unlocked bootloader?
BTW, if I were to flash stock recovery and relock the bootloader
would it be possible for me to preserve root or somehow reroot
via one of the rooting softwares without unlocking again?
I have this same phone and the only root method I've found to work is flashing a custom recovery and then flashing the superSU zip that you would have previously installed in the root of your SD card from that custom recoveries file Explorer. As for custom recovery over stock and one being more secure than the next, you went way past secure the minute you set up your developer account with HTC, like I did, to unlock your bootloader in the first place and gain root access . Yes it's more secure to keep your bootloader locked and relocking it after reflashing your stock recovery seems to be what your want to do and you can do it. I wouldn't on mine but it sounds like your not comfortable with yours so go for it. I sincerely hope you don't end up regretting it later. Good luck!
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Also the Sunshine app worked great for me and the money's not bad for what they do for the phone and the access it gives you.
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