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[Q] replacing clockwork mod with twrp

Ok, I'm completely self taught as far as this whole arena of technology is concerned. So please bear with me. I rooted using kindle water and clockwork mod was installed as my recovery. But, I need twrp to install any of the 3.0 kernels. Can I install twrp with clockwork mod still on my device our do I need to remove it somehow? Any advice would be great.

No, I don't think it's even remotely possible.
There are several methods you can use to install TWRP; fastboot, script, KFU, depending on whatever you're most comfortable with.
Before you do so I'd highly suggest you read and understand what is laid out in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547 (first, second and third posts)
It'll save you a lot of trouble when things "go bad".

Thanks for the reply!

Stage said:
Ok, I'm completely self taught as far as this whole arena of technology is concerned. So please bear with me. I rooted using kindle water and clockwork mod was installed as my recovery. But, I need twrp to install any of the 3.0 kernels. Can I install twrp with clockwork mod still on my device our do I need to remove it somehow? Any advice would be great.
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Actually, if you wanted to have a completely wacky setup...
They are all boot images, so you can leave CWMR on your recovery partition and flash your boot partition with TWRP. Then you would "normally" boot into TWRP and selecting recovery will take you to CWMR as it did before. If you ever want to boot ICS, you can "fastboot boot" the ICS boot.img file and it should boot into the system for you. This is just all in theory, I've never done anything this insane, but it should work if you wanted.
Now, for a more practical approach....
You can leave CWMR on your recovery partition and just "fastboot boot" the TWRP image. That would get you a "per boot" access to TWRP without ever flashing it onto your device. If all you want to do is flash ICS with it, then this is a doable setup and would just require the extra step of booting directly from the TWRP recovery image with fastboot.

Well I'm on CM9 by hellfire right now so ICS is definitely possible. Just wanted to get HWA going.

Just to piggyback on the OP and maybe a more direct question.
I currently have CWMR installed. Can I simply use KFU to replace it with TWRP by choosing option 3?

dferrey said:
Just to piggyback on the OP and maybe a more direct question.
I currently have CWMR installed. Can I simply use KFU to replace it with TWRP by choosing option 3?
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That would answer my question add well. Anyone?

dferrey said:
Just to piggyback on the OP and maybe a more direct question.
I currently have CWMR installed. Can I simply use KFU to replace it with TWRP by choosing option 3?
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Stage said:
That would answer my question add well. Anyone?
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KFU's TWRP installer is either broken or will install TWRP 2.0.0 (broken reboot) and FFF 1.0 (4 generations old) together. You can either tinker with its run.bat file or learn to use fastboot if you want the latest stuff installed. The latter makes more sense to me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
The fastboot section is in post #3.

kinfauns said:
KFU's TWRP installer is either broken or will install TWRP 2.0.0 (broken reboot) and FFF 1.0 (4 generations old) together. You can either tinker with its run.bat file or learn to use fastboot if you want the latest stuff installed. The latter makes more sense to me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
The fastboot section is in post #3.
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Dang, reading for comprehension is not my strong suit sometimes. I read that guide yesterday and it specifically addresses my question and also says I can play with images without installing them way cool.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

what is the real difference between cwm and twrp besides the interface? I like twrp but i also like to use rom manager when on another rom besides stock....also im using bootmanager for my tri-boot needs... What is the problem with cwm and 3.0 kernel?

I believe that Hashcode updated CWM to support 3.0 ROMs (Check the dev section).
I started with TWRP then CWM. Then I wanted to flash 3.0 ROMs so I used KFU to flash TWRP (Hope that helps someone).
I have not tested the new CWM yet as this old version of TWRP does what I need it to.

hgigh said:
I believe that Hashcode updated CWM to support 3.0 ROMs (Check the dev section).
I started with TWRP then CWM. Then I wanted to flash 3.0 ROMs so I used KFU to flash TWRP (Hope that helps someone).
I have not tested the new CWM yet as this old version of TWRP does what I need it to.
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I believe that CWM is more streamlined in that it can work with ROM Manager as well, whereas TWRP requires you go to recovery in order to flash anything. However, I like to stick with TWRP for its ability to compress backups, since there isn't much free space on the Fire. I'll probably switch over to CWM eventually, but, like you, TWRP does just what I need.

YayILikePie said:
I believe that CWM is more streamlined in that it can work with ROM Manager as well, whereas TWRP requires you go to recovery in order to flash anything. However, I like to stick with TWRP for its ability to compress backups, since there isn't much free space on the Fire. I'll probably switch over to CWM eventually, but, like you, TWRP does just what I need.
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I agree completely! Not much space at all. ROM Manager is cool but I have had more problems than solutions using it (G2X) so I am used to going into recovery to flash (CWM included).

thanks for the help. Im used to using rom manager/cwm on my indulge so im not really used to having to go into recovery for everything. but as stated earlier with the limited space on the kindle ill still with twrp then so i can compress my backups. also stated rom manager will have some problems untill they can find a way to link cwm for kindle fire to rom manager otherwise you will run into the same issues that happens when you use it with twrp....it boots into recovery and then does nothing else. lol

Alright so I tried installing TWRP via goo manager. I downloaded the app and installed the openrecoveryscript. It shows that it's installed, yet whenever I tried and reboot into recovery it still boots into clockwork... I have gone as far as trying to delete Rom Manager app from my phone and I tried installing the openrecoveryscript again. Any suggestions on how I should go about fixing this. I`m currently running 11.0-installerXNPQ02R.

Is having 2 Custom Recoverys bad?

After achieving S-Off, thanx to Romrunners method, I flashed CWM Recovery cause I prefer over TWRP. Just wanted to know if I should be concerned in having 2 recoverys installed, and how to delete the other.
Via HTC Uno!

fullmetal509 said:
After achieving S-Off, thanx to Roadrunners method, I flashed CWM Recovery cause I prefer over TWRP. Just wanted to know if I should be concerned in having 2 recoverys installed, and how to delete the other.
Via HTC Uno!
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OK so first off you can't have 2 recoveries. Also it is called rumrunner. ROM manager is not support for this phone. And Twrp is better. Lol

fullmetal509 said:
After achieving S-Off, thanx to Romrunners method, I flashed CWM Recovery cause I prefer over TWRP. Just wanted to know if I should be concerned in having 2 recoverys installed, and how to delete the other.
Via HTC Uno!
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That's ROM Manager's somewhat backwards way of asking you what to do about its recovery image.
The options, from top to bottom, are "Install CWM", "I have already installed CWM", and "I have already installed TWRP."
If you choose the one that applies to you, it will stop bothering you.
ROM Manager works fine, btw - once you've convinced it that you have CWM-m7vzw installed (it can even install it itself(!)) you can back up and restore and flash ROMs 'til your heart's content–even CM10.2 nightly updates.

I have a similar question, I have cwm on my htc and want to go over to twrp. What's the best way to remove cwm?

bsbuggs said:
I have a similar question, I have cwm on my htc and want to go over to twrp. What's the best way to remove cwm?
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You do not need to remove cwm, all you need to do is put the twrp.img file in your adb/fastboot folder, boot to the bootloader, select fastboot usb - sometimes it loads automatically to this -, type fastboot devices to confirm your device then type "fastboot flash recovery twrp_filename.img" - type that without the quotes and the actual filename with .img. Once you enter that and hit enter you should get some text saying it is being sent to your phone and it should tell you if it worked or failed.

Thanks I appreciate the help..
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk

Guess I need to try and install twrp again. Some folks over in the omni room forum are saying that the latest cwm is what's causing baseband issues when flashing roms (no service)
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[Q] Nexus 7 Newb would like feedback on plan for setting up my device

I recently picked up a Nexus 7, unlocked it, and loaded KitKat yesterday with the factory image. I have set the device up now and would like to use a custom backup to take an image of the 7 and then store that image off of the device on an external drive since I only have a 16gb 7.
I have downloaded Clockworkmod ROM Manager to do this. Is it easily feasible to make a stock image and then transfer the image to an external drive? I'm having an issue installing the Clockworkmod Recovery tool, but I posted a question about that in a different forum.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Rick

I presume you have a custom recovery installed in addition to the ClockWorkMod Manager? If not, use the WugFresh Nexus Root Toolkit to install that, then boot into the recovery and select the backup option. It will create a folder on the root of your device called clockworkmod which will contain your backups. Just copy that to your PC, and transfer it back to the device when you need it.

C5Longhorn said:
I recently picked up a Nexus 7, unlocked it, and loaded KitKat yesterday with the factory image. I have set the device up now and would like to use a custom backup to take an image of the 7 and then store that image off of the device on an external drive since I only have a 16gb 7.
I have downloaded Clockworkmod ROM Manager to do this. Is it easily feasible to make a stock image and then transfer the image to an external drive? I'm having an issue installing the Clockworkmod Recovery tool, but I posted a question about that in a different forum.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Rick
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I've used ROM Manager a fair amount for creating backups. It works well, but like was said previously, you'll need to flash a custom recovery. The two main choices are Clockworkmod (CWM) and Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). CWM works well with ROM Manager in my experience on another device.
I've found TWRP much easier to use though. It features a touch interface. You'll be able to customize the backup file name if you initiate a backup in recovery mode. The file name will also allow spaces, while CWM doesn't.
Check it out at teamw.in/project/twrp2. I think the recoveries are the same, but make sure you select the correct Nexus 7 model (LTE or Wi-Fi). You can flash the image in the bootloader using fastboot. Instructions are avalaible on the TWRP website.

Wrngway said:
I've used ROM Manager a fair amount for creating backups. It works well, but like was said previously, you'll need to flash a custom recovery. The two main choices are Clockworkmod (CWM) and Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). CWM works well with ROM Manager in my experience on another device.
I've found TWRP much easier to use though. It features a touch interface. You'll be able to customize the backup file name if you initiate a backup in recovery mode. The file name will also allow spaces, while CWM doesn't.
Check it out at teamw.in/project/twrp2. I think the recoveries are the same, but make sure you select the correct Nexus 7 model (LTE or Wi-Fi). You can flash the image in the bootloader using fastboot. Instructions are avalaible on the TWRP website.
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TWRP will also allow you to backup, restore, and flash from a USB drive if you get a USB OTG cable.
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nrage23 said:
TWRP will also allow you to backup, restore, and flash from a USB drive if you get a USB OTG cable.
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I don't think TWRP is working with 4.4 build number KRT16S
Can anyone confirm? I just tried to flash the latest TWRP recovery 2.6.3.1 and it was not working when I rebooted into recovery. I was still getting the stock image.
Rick

C5Longhorn said:
I don't think TWRP is working with 4.4 build number KRT16S
Can anyone confirm? I just tried to flash the latest TWRP recovery 2.6.3.1 and it was not working when I rebooted into recovery. I was still getting the stock image.
Rick
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TWRP working fine here..

C5Longhorn said:
I don't think TWRP is working with 4.4 build number KRT16S
Can anyone confirm? I just tried to flash the latest TWRP recovery 2.6.3.1 and it was not working when I rebooted into recovery. I was still getting the stock image.
Rick
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Just backed up stock KitKat to a thumb drive and flashed newest 4.4 Omni Rom from thumb Drive. Use the WugFresh Nexus Toolkit to flash recovery. It makes it much simpler.

C5Longhorn said:
I don't think TWRP is working with 4.4 build number KRT16S
Can anyone confirm? I just tried to flash the latest TWRP recovery 2.6.3.1 and it was not working when I rebooted into recovery. I was still getting the stock image.
Rick
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From what I've read, the stock recovery for KRT16S is the same as KRT16O. I'm running the latest TWRP on KRT16O without issue.
Assuming your bootloader is unlocked, you shouldn't have an issue. Can you list the steps you're using to flash recovery? Maybe you're missing something.
If you have the correct driver on your computer and you're using fastboot, the command should be "fastboot flash recovery [insert recovery file name].img" from the fastboot directory.

Wrngway said:
From what I've read, the stock recovery for KRT16S is the same as KRT16O. I'm running the latest TWRP on KRT16O without issue.
Assuming your bootloader is unlocked, you shouldn't have an issue. Can you list the steps you're using to flash recovery? Maybe you're missing something.
If you have the correct driver on your computer and you're using fastboot, the command should be "fastboot flash recovery [insert recovery file name].img" from the fastboot directory.
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Ok, maybe I was doing something wrong. The command line indicated it was installing correctly when I flashed it. However, when I rebooted to recovery it was never TWRP.
I just installed Clockworkmod Recovery so it was probably an error on my end.
Now, since I have made a backup, how can I identify where it is stored? I would like to move it to my computer since I only have a 16gb 7.
Thanks for all the replies,
Rick

I can't remember the default location. I think it's sdcard/clockworkmod/backups.
If you remember the file name, you can just search for that using ES File Explorer or a similar app.

Wrngway said:
I can't remember the default location. I think it's sdcard/clockworkmod/backups.
If you remember the file name, you can just search for that using ES File Explorer or a similar app.
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great, thanks for all the help. I will probably reflash back to stock and then rebuild my device and backup. I have OCD about making sure I've got the cleanest install and right now don't know that for sure since it's been trial and error.

They are saved in /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
They are hidden from other apps, so you need a file explorer with root to move them.

Great, thank you for the reply. The help from folks on the forum has been fantastic and really helps a newb.
Rick

[Q] simple recovery switcher app

Hi,
I was wondering, has anyone tried this app yet in our device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-simple-recovery-switcher-t2857554
i dont know where we can get the stock recovery img file, so i haven't tried it yet too. does anyone know where to get that file? i'm using 14.4.A.0.108, with dual recovery (Philz, TWRP, and CMW)
any information would be highly appreciated

If you have dualrecovery, there is an app called NDRUtils. You can use it to switch the default recovery.

zxz0O0 said:
If you have dualrecovery, there is an app called NDRUtils. You can use it to switch the default recovery.
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well, i've found the app, there are three primary recoveries there to choose, philz touch, TWRP adn CMW... and i'm sure it's none of them (at least not TWRP nor CMW), haha, so should i choose philz touch recovery, or there is something wrong with my device? sorry if i annoy you with this dumb question, i'm really new around here, hehe

There is no stock recovery on Sony devices.

Installing TWRP over CWM?

Hello,
I am wondering if it is possible to install TWRP over top of CWM? When I initially rooted my phone CWM was installed, however to install a new rom I need TWRP. Is this possible?
Thanks,

Skyty said:
Hello,
I am wondering if it is possible to install TWRP over top of CWM? When I initially rooted my phone CWM was installed, however to install a new rom I need TWRP. Is this possible?
Thanks,
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Yes. It's been a loong time. Best I can recall, I did the following:
1. Flash'd a ZIP of an old TWRP (couldn't find latest in ZIP file)
2. Rebooted into Recovery
3. Used old TWRP to flash IMG file of new TWRP

Just to make sure I understand (as it's been a while since I rooted a phone or done anything like this).
1.) When you say flashed, do you mean in the TWRP app on the screen where you select your phone model?
2.) So if I flash TWRP (in the manner I described above assuming that's what you meant) and reboot into recovery it will overwrite Clockworkmod and then I'll be in TWRP recovery?
3.) If I do this with the most recent TWRP version I'm assuming this step will be unecessary?
My apologies if I misunderstood what you were trying to say! Thanks for taking the time to respond!

Skyty said:
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1.) When you say flashed, do you mean in the TWRP app on the screen where you select your phone model?
2.) So if I flash TWRP (in the manner I described above assuming that's what you meant) and reboot into recovery it will overwrite Clockworkmod and then I'll be in TWRP recovery?
3.) If I do this with the most recent TWRP version I'm assuming this step will be unecessary?...
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Quick answers: No, no, and maybe.
It appears that you may be confusing the TWRP app (which is basically useless bloat) with the actual TWRP recovery. You need to find and download the latest TWRP recovery for your device model. If you can find a ZIP of it, great; because CWM can then install TWRP recovery for you (so that when you reboot into recovery, you'll see TWRP instead of CWM). In my case, there was no ZIP available for the latest TWRP; it was available only as an IMG file. An old version of TWRP recovery, however, was and likely still is available in a ZIP file. So use CWM to install that ZIP of older TWRP, which can then install newer TWRP as an IMG file. I'm just a struggling noob myself, but I'm pretty sure CWM is not able to install an IMG file. Good luck!

MrGoodtunes said:
Quick answers: No, no, and maybe.
It appears that you may be confusing the TWRP app (which is basically useless bloat) with the actual TWRP recovery. You need to find and download the latest TWRP recovery for your device model. If you can find a ZIP of it, great; because CWM can then install TWRP recovery for you (so that when you reboot into recovery, you'll see TWRP instead of CWM). In my case, there was no ZIP available for the latest TWRP; it was available only as an IMG file. An old version of TWRP recovery, however, was and likely still is available in a ZIP file. So use CWM to install that ZIP of older TWRP, which can then install newer TWRP as an IMG file. I'm just a struggling noob myself, but I'm pretty sure CWM is not able to install an IMG file. Good luck!
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Ahhhh, okay that makes sense. I think I follow. Now in another thread you mentioned that if I need to go back and restore I'd use TWRP to flash CWM, hen I can use CWM to recover my old nandroid backups.
A couple final questions. Will I need to do a wipe when I flash the old TWRP zip (side note, do you know a good place to find those)? If I need to go back to CWM is there any place I can find it to flash with TWRP?
Thanks for all your help!

Skyty said:
... if I need to go back and restore I'd use TWRP to flash CWM, hen I can use CWM to recover my old nandroid backups ...
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Correct. That is IF you can find TWRP and CWM as ZIP files. I used to switch back and forth frequently, but that was years ago. TWRP is so much more useful, I no longer have anything CWM related nor the ZIPs; and can't even find where I got them. I'm pretty sure they were here on XDA. Spent some time searching, no luck. Then I tried Google. The first snippit nail'd it, here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/development/recovery-cwm-twrp-philz-t3182207
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.... Will I need to do a wipe when I flash the old TWRP zip...
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I never wiped. I seem to recall that when installing to the recovery partition, one of the steps I saw in the log was a wipe or maybe even a reformatting of that partition taking place along the way.
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.... (side note, do you know a good place to find those)? If I need to go back to CWM is there any place I can find it to flash with TWRP?
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They're both in the link (above).
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.... Thanks for all your help!
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That's what the [Thanks] button is for, here on xda.

MrGoodtunes said:
Correct. That is IF you can find TWRP and CWM as ZIP files. I used to switch back and forth frequently, but that was years ago. TWRP is so much more useful, I no longer have anything CWM related nor the ZIPs; and can't even find where I got them. I'm pretty sure they were here on XDA. Spent some time searching, no luck. Then I tried Google. The first snippit nail'd it, here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/development/recovery-cwm-twrp-philz-t3182207
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I appreciate the link, however, I think those zips are for a different model of phone than mine. However, I think I possibly found versions that will work for me... Is there any real way to confirm?
The serranoltexx CWM Zip
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980&page=99
The serranoltexx TWRP Zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347768468
However, I'm not 100% certain either of these will work, and I'm not sure how I'd figure that out.
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That's what the [Thanks] button is for, here on xda.
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Done!

Skyty said:
... those zips are for a different model of phone ...
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OMG! You're right, those are for the Value Edition. I completely miss'd the "ve" in them. Sorry.
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... I think I possibly found versions that will work for me..
The serranoltexx CWM Zip
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980&page=99
The serranoltexx TWRP Zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347768468 ...
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I remember using that very CWM zip version 6.0.5.1, so it should work okay. Good find.
I'm not familliar with that particular TWRP zip. It does clearly indicate being for the i9195 model; I'm just not sure about what "open" means at beginning of zip's filename. Still, worth a try. (If it fails, you can more easily find a TAR file of the most recent TWRP and use Odin to install it.)

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OMG! You're right, those are for the Value Edition. I completely miss'd the "ve" in them. Sorry.
I remember using that very CWM zip version 6.0.5.1, so it should work okay. Good find.
I'm not familliar with that particular TWRP zip. It does clearly indicate being for the i9195 model; I'm just not sure about what "open" means at beginning of zip's filename. Still, worth a try. (If it fails, you can more easily find a TAR file of the most recent TWRP and use Odin to install it.)
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So, just thought I'd let you know that I'm up and running with LineageOS and I tested reverting back and forth to CWM and TWRP. Eveything seems in working order! I appreciate you help and have clicked the thanks button on your messages! All the best!

Skyty said:
... I tested reverting back and forth to CWM and TWRP. Eveything seems in working order!
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That's excellent. It's really amazing how much we can do with this little S4mini device; thanks to the work of devs, several of whom are still providing updates. After all there's never been a more powerful device (other than S4mini VE) that weighs under 4 oz.

MrGoodtunes said:
That's excellent. It's really amazing how much we can do with this little S4mini device; thanks to the work of devs, several of whom are still providing updates. After all there's never been a more powerful device (other than S4mini VE) that weighs under 4 oz.
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Yeah, its amazing! I've been able to breath new life into my old phone, I'm shocked at how well it runs on the S4; not as well as my newer phones, but better than before. Funnily enough, its actually running a newer version of Android than my S8 and S10e haha. Now onto those phones... been trying to get them both rooted but it's looking like a no go haha.