Band wiggle? - Moto 360

I know throughout my readings on here I saw someone who had the same problem but can't for the life of me find the pictures of the remedy.
I have a 360 with the Kreisler Tech 22mm band and a set of steelconnect M 180's on it...the band wiggles from side to side within the steelconnect...is there a remedy or is this a "live with it" type situation. I would have no issues switching to the Pebblesteel band if it would "fill in" the space and not wobble from side to side

cirenj said:
I know throughout my readings on here I saw someone who had the same problem but can't for the life of me find the pictures of the remedy.
I have a 360 with the Kreisler Tech 22mm band and a set of steelconnect M 180's on it...the band wiggles from side to side within the steelconnect...is there a remedy or is this a "live with it" type situation. I would have no issues switching to the Pebblesteel band if it would "fill in" the space and not wobble from side to side
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They must have shipped you the wrong size band. There's no way that that is a 22 mm band.

The part that the pin goes through is way too narrow ....
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Thread to discuss 22mm watch bands !!

OK so I was reading that the 360 will take any 22mm watch band. Moto says that is the case, but that their specific band will look best because it's made for the shape of the 360. I'm currently looking at my Rolex for which I have a spare band for and I'm not sure if it's a standard band. I can't see from pictures how the 360 accepts the band, but I would guess it's just a straight pin that latches onto the left and right sides inside that slot the band goes in. If so that rules out my Rolex as it looks like it attaches to a middle piece.
What 22mm bands have you guys researched? Links/pics, etc. I think even a standard 22mm band might need to a more narrow link connecting the strap to the body. I'm also not sure how thick it can be.
Edit: Trying to upload a pic, how the heck does a tech forum like this have a 256kb (that's a freakin K in kb) limit on images?~?!? Do images that small even exist anymore?
I would love a cheap black metal band.
Edit: would any of these work?
http://www.amazon.com/Ritche-Stainless-Steel-Bracelet-Straight/dp/B00DKYC7TK
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0E869BB2EPW3BZZQ7AJ3
Here's my watchband, I don't think it will fit.
i want to know what kind of connection system Moto is employing in the body of the watch. given the size of the face, i was hoping to integrate a bracelet style watch band.
note, my crappy photochop
Got my band waiting for my watch!
Strapcode Super Engineer II
EDIT: Doesn't fit. The ends on this band are too thick. It is also missing the center cut out to fit against the watch body. Don't buy it for the Moto360.
I'm looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/MiLTAT-Aniline-Italian-Leather-D-Buckle/dp/B00IUCSA4S/
http://www.amazon.com/Military-Green-Panerai-Leather-Watchband/dp/B00C7VYGDW/
http://www.amazon.com/MiLTAT-Aniline-Italian-Leather-D-Buckle/dp/B00IUCSH0K/
http://www.amazon.com/Hirsch-109002-50-22-Genuine-Calfskin-Watch/dp/B001QWIZDU/
http://www.amazon.com/Horween-Vintage-Calfskin-Matching-Hand-Stitch/dp/B00IA8M1G0/
http://www.amazon.com/MiLTAT-Washed-Canvas-Stitching-Deployant/dp/B00N1PNV8E/
http://www.amazon.com/Hadley-Roma-MB4436RWSE-22-22-mm-Stainless-WatchBracelet/dp/B001EYVBMC
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640k said:
i want to know what kind of connection system Moto is employing in the body of the watch. given the size of the face, i was hoping to integrate a bracelet style watch band.
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Holy crap... I know that's a photochop, but damn, any bracelet is going to be tallllllllll.
http://smile.amazon.com/Ritche-Stai...ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A38Q0YPDGQDPPX
Just ordered that
Does anyone know how to actually swap the bands on the watch? I've got one and I plan on heading to fossil for a new band but I have no idea how to swap them once I fine a new one.
shiftedx said:
Does anyone know how to actually swap the bands on the watch? I've got one and I plan on heading to fossil for a new band but I have no idea how to swap them once I fine a new one.
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The plastic back of the watch could be removed. Then it's possible with a watchband tool.
http://i2.wp.com/cdn.bgr.com/2014/09/moto-360-leak.jpg?w=625
Thanks for the quick reply, is the back removal something I can do myself or would the people at fossil/jeweler do it for me?
brotbuexe said:
The plastic back of the watch could be removed. Then it's possible with a watchband tool.
http://i2.wp.com/cdn.bgr.com/2014/09/moto-360-leak.jpg?w=625
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The original steel bands: http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...a-moto-360-behind-the-scenes-sg-8-600x399.jpg
You'll see how deep they have to go into the moto.
I want something like this http://www.watchbands-watchstraps.c...ink-Metal-Watch-Band--Silver--22mm_p_129.html
shiftedx said:
Thanks for the quick reply, is the back removal something I can do myself or would the people at fossil/jeweler do it for me?
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I think it's just a snap on plastic back which could be pulled with a fingernail. But I only saw pictures yet. I'm not 100% sure.
brotbuexe said:
The original steel bands: http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...a-moto-360-behind-the-scenes-sg-8-600x399.jpg
You'll see how deep they have to go into the moto.
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Those are the official 360 bands? Hmm, the attachment method looks odd.
The stock leather isn't bad
brotbuexe said:
The original steel bands: http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...a-moto-360-behind-the-scenes-sg-8-600x399.jpg
You'll see how deep they have to go into the moto.
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hmm, thats a fair bit different to the original band they had on the preview
spinedoc said:
Those are the official 360 bands? Hmm, the attachment method looks odd.
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The attachment method will use spring bars like on normal watches, they just cut out some metal to save weight.
I think it will look weird if the last part of the band does not match the length. At least on a small wrist.
I want a band like the one shown in the preview, it looks MUCH better than the one they're actually going with, the fact that it curves to meet the body of the watch is a million times nicer. I wonder if I'll be able to find a similar one from anywhere.
What do you guys think?
Busted my plastic back trying to pry it off. Be extremely careful with it. Gonna have to sell it locally for $20-30 under msrp to get some money back.

Debating a Moto360...

First time I have considered Android Wear. Is this watch worth the $250? Should I look into other any other watches? This seems to be the most reliable watch from what I read and more covered in the dev community.
I randomly jumped the gun. I just went to best buy and remembered that moto 360 was quite a seller. So I just bought one since I have 14 days to return. After almost 2 days, I actually like it. I did update my 360 but battery life to me isn't that good... Might be cause I was constantly on it though. I use Google a lot so it's convenient to me. Don't know what else to tell you, it's all personal preference
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I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
vansmack said:
I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
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Leather should be okay if the leather is good quality. Does the official metal band come with the 2nd gen Moto360?
agentfazexx said:
Does the official metal band come with the 2nd gen Moto360?
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There will be an official metal band sometime in November for the first Gen Moto 360.
vansmack said:
There will be an official metal band sometime in November for the first Gen Moto 360.
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Is it worth the $250 from a geek standpoint? Will the new toy buzz wear off quick? I do use Google apps frequently but will this watch make me end up using my phone anyway? Just trying to justify $250 for a watch.
I enjoy looking at my watch when I get notifications. Keeps me updated quickly rather than looking at my phone. I like the GPS notification, tells me my next direction on my watch. The apps made me like my watch more (mini launcher, pixtocam, 2048, keep, music, reddit, and wear speaker). I merge my sms with my Google hangout so that I can reply with voice on my watch. when you click the Regular samsung messenger app it just opens the app but that requires unlocking the phone before it opens.
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agentfazexx said:
Just trying to justify $250 for a watch.
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The decision is for you to make and nobody could help you out of that!
vansmack said:
I love mine, but I would caution one thing:
If you're fine with a leather band, go for it.
If you want a metal band, I would wait for the official metal band and not use a third party watch band.
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Seems like silly advice. Plenty of people have had luck with third-party bands that cost a small fraction of the ridiculous price Motorola is going to charge for the official one (which no one has yet, so how do you know it will be any better for you?)
thebobmannh said:
Seems like silly advice. Plenty of people have had luck with third-party bands that cost a small fraction of the ridiculous price Motorola is going to charge for the official one (which no one has yet, so how do you know it will be any better for you?)
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Well, I've got 3 cracks on the back of the watch that Motorola will not replace because I changed the watchband. So your mileage (and advice) may vary....
And for clarity purposes, the 360 with the metal band will retail for $299, and the band will be sold separately for $79.99. They announced this and showed it off at launch.
This photo will demonstrate why they recommended waiting:
http://www.androidcentral.com/heres-deal-steel-bands-new-moto-360
That steel band puts no pressure on the underside.
vansmack said:
Well, I've got 3 cracks on the back of the watch that Motorola will not replace because I changed the watchband. So your mileage (and advice) may vary....
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Is the watchband the cause of the cracks? Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with all of the "cracked back" threads. I was just saying it's not been released / seen in person. If your recommendation was because of the cracking / warranty issue, then I take back my ridiculing of it.
And for clarity purposes, the 360 with the metal band will retail for $299, and the band will be sold separately for $79.99. They announced this and showed it off at launch.
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I saw the press release. THat's a ridiculous price markup for a band, and my point was it hadn't been released. You're recommending something you've only ever seen in pictures.
This photo will demonstrate why they recommended waiting:
http://www.androidcentral.com/heres-deal-steel-bands-new-moto-360
That steel band puts no pressure on the underside.
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The point of contact for all bands is the pins, I fail to see how the shape / design of the band would make any difference, but I'm willing to be wrong.
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Is the watchband the cause of the cracks? Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with all of the "cracked back" threads. I was just saying it's not been released / seen in person. If your recommendation was because of the cracking / warranty issue, then I take back my ridiculing of it.
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There are folks who are experiencing cracks who have not switched bands and their return experience has been mixed. The poll elsewhere in this forum seems to suggest that those with steel bands (and skinny wrists) seem to be having the most problems with the back of the watch.
However, Moto is now starting to send emails that say if you switch bands, they will not honor your return request.
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I saw the press release. THat's a ridiculous price markup for a band, and my point was it hadn't been released. You're recommending something you've only ever seen in pictures.
The point of contact for all bands is the pins, I fail to see how the shape / design of the band would make any difference, but I'm willing to be wrong.
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I simply recommended he wait if he wanted a steel band, It wasn't based on price or aesthetics - simply the warranty issue.
The difference in the Moto band and most other steel bands, is the pressure that the end of the band puts on the plastic lip that protrudes on the back of the watch. The Moto band's first flexible joint is outside of the circular watch, and thus puts no pressure on the plastic back. The first flexible joint of the pebble steel is directly under the plastic lip and may be the cause of some of the reported cracking.
Just out of curiosity.... how does Moto know if you replaced the band? I mean, if you send it in for warranty, coudln't you just put the stock band back on?
Thanks for all the info though. Interesting stuff.

My Moto 360 official metal band replacement review

I originally purchased my Moto 360 with the "stone leather" band. Color is the ugliest from all the leather bands, but it was the only one available at the time with a silver watch (which was a must for me). All was fine and dandy, until the band begun to smell awful. I did wear my watch while doing weight training four times a week, but I suppose that's why it has a heart rate monitor, right ? I tried to get off the smell using a stain remover called "Vanish" which "eliminates 99% of bacteria". It did eliminate the original bad smell but another chemical smell took its place and stayed there. I finally destroyed the color of my leather band using sodium bicarbonate in one last try to eliminate the smell.
I didn't want to use 3rd party metal bands because I was afraid I would end up with a cracked watch back, and also due to the watch lugs design, they don't look good attached to the watch because they form a steep angle while exiting the watch, leading to a "hockey puck" look.
Finally the official metal bands became available via Amazon (the only ones shipping to a package forwarding addres - I live inside EU). I purchased the band for more money than I would like to spend but it was a must. I also purchased a cheap set of tools to help me replace it. I replaced the band in about 2 hours, being very careful not to scratch anything, and I succeeded to keep the watch intact. However, from this experience I advise you that this is not a simple operation and it's better to go to a jeweler. This is because the pins are hidden inside the watch and the original band takes up all the space and the pins are not visible and are hardly reachable. Also, the link pins are very hard to get out from the band in order to adjust, even with specialized tools. I really hope Motorola changes the band attachment and adjustment style on the Moto 360 v2, an easier procedure is sorely needed. Maybe they could take some hints from the Apple Watch
The band feels a lot better on hand compared to the leather band (strangely). The leather band was constantly reminding me that it's there, like I had some kind of allergy to it, I had to adjust it all the time, plus the bad smell. The metal band heats up to body temperature and you really don't feel it, despite being heavier. However, in my opinion, the metal band is about 1-2mm wider than ideal. Its actually 23mm instead of the standard 22mm. It's out of balance compared to the watch diameter and overall size. Another disadvantage of the metal band is that at the watch entry point the band looks unnatural, unfinished. The wide links end about 3mm before the rest of the band enters the watch, creating this "unfinished" effect. I think they could have done a better design. But this is a minor problem, overall the watch looks a lot better with the metal band. I do think it would look very good with the new cognac leather band, but I have to wear it while training so I can't use any more leather bands. Maybe a silicone band would come handy.
About the cracked back issue, the official metal band has 2 plastic pieces that are designed in such a way that the metal band never touches the watch back. Even the plastic pieces don't put strain on the back, it's very well designed in this regard.
A picture of the watch is attached to this post. Thanks for reading
Thank you for your input and the picture.
i have yet to see the real shape of them plastic spacers... if u ever take band off, i would like to see the actual close up pic of those plastic things
chaco81 said:
i have yet to see the real shape of them plastic spacers... if u ever take band off, i would like to see the actual close up pic of those plastic things
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I posted some photos in the Accessories section about a week ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57436743&postcount=19
Well got mine today from the US, ... Cousin was coming to India
Tomorrow I will apply it.
There is a video on YouTube where it seemed it was fairly simple to change it.
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Good Review .. Thanks man
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I prefer the look of the pebble steel band for some reason.
macropterous said:
I prefer the look of the pebble steel band for some reason.
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I did at first also.
But after checking it out at BB, I wasn't impressed.
I'm now leaning to the Moto band, or this Mesh one on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PV...qid=1419285189&sr=8-15&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
I guess no one has paired the steel watch with the black steel official band? What do you think:
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It's an interesting look, but I'd still go with the silver one, on the silver Moto 360. I just wish the bands were a bit cheaper. 79.99 is kind of a lot.
I finally got mine from Moto - I ordered the black watch with black band and they held it up for a month waiting for the screen protector to come in. Jerks. But I digress
The band was too small so I added a link using a cheap kit I bought on Amazon (and man are the tools included cheap! Not quite single use but close). The band was too wide to see what I was doing in the pin removal tool so I had to do it manually with a dinky hammer and an appropriate pin removal tool. Long story short, it wasn't terribly difficult to just add or subtract a link.
It looks good and works well - my only gripe is that the little space between the band and the watch case doesn't look like what I'm used to looking at.
For those of you thinking the bands are expensive... I tried to order a replacement band for my TAG sports elegance watch and those burglars wanted $600 for a new band. So I got a moto360 instead.
FYI:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57809422&postcount=23

[Q] Moto 360 Xieming Mesh steel band issues?

Hi guys , i recently purchased the band mentioned in the title and have had it put on by my local jewelers which by the way slightly damaged the sides where the pins go in by marking one of them not sure how. Now i am paranoid it would make it crack i hope not.
My question is in the long run have any of you had any issues with that band at all seeing as though when on my wrist it really doesen't put pressure on the back of the watch as my wrist is not that small.
Some photos , not sure if you can make it out but you can tell where hes damaged the sides lol. Should i worry as per the photos?
Thanks
Anybody?
trayscragg said:
Anybody?
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It seems that your jeweler filed the back sides in order to reach the lugs ? Yes I do believe this weakens the already poorly designed plastic back. I think that anybody owning the watch could have done a better job at this, because owning it makes one handling the watch responsibly.
Mine cracked a week after I put this band on. But I have a smaller wrist.
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Anybody?
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I have the same band in black. I put it on my 360 without SteelConnect lugs and knew immediately that the back would crack sooner, rather than later.
Got some SteelConnect M°180 lugs and now it fits and moves like it should. See below.
Also bought the black steel mesh band which imo looks amazing. Decided against buying the steel connects, just looks missed placed.
So what I did is use my dremel tool to file down the rounded plastic back. All seems well.
flashallthetime said:
Also bought the black steel mesh band which imo looks amazing. Decided against buying the steel connects, just looks missed placed.
So what I did is use my dremel tool to file down the rounded plastic back. All seems well.
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Yeah, if you don't get the steelconnect (or similar) lugs, the only other option to prevent cracking is breaking out a dremel and sandpaper. BUT, this would warrant denial of warranty should anything else go wrong with the watch, so I decided to go with the lugs. Black lugs on the black band looks good to me.
What's the difference between the 180 steel connects and the 225?
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What's the difference between the 180 steel connects and the 225?
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225 are longer and slightly bend around the wrist.

Does Your Aftermarket SS Link Band Taper?

Just received mine. I immediately noticed it tapers.. didn't look like it in the photos. I hate bands than taper, but there are VERY few options for the Huawei Watch unfortunately.
Just wondering for those who got the same band, does yours taper as well? Hoping maybe there are slight variations on the design so maybe I can get one that doesn't taper and at least gives the 22mm width promised.
This is the one I'm referring to:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BWJKISG/ref=pe_386430_206921500_TE_dp_1
kloan said:
Just received mine. I immediately noticed it tapers.. didn't look like it in the photos. I hate bands than taper, but there are VERY few options for the Huawei Watch unfortunately.
Just wondering for those who got the same band, does yours taper as well? Hoping maybe there are slight variations on the design so maybe I can get one that doesn't taper and at least gives the 22mm width promised.
This is the one I'm referring to:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BWJKISG/ref=pe_386430_206921500_TE_dp_1
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I have a very similar band, it also tapers slightly.
The reason for this is the butterfly clasps they use are made for a 20mm watch band, so any band over 20mm will taper to 20mm at the clasp.
Honestly it does not bother me at all, this is a $20 band and not a $100 one like the stock metal one is.
If you are willing to spend that $100 you can easily find one that does not taper, but then you should just get the stock one.
kloan said:
Just received mine. I immediately noticed it tapers.. didn't look like it in the photos. I hate bands than taper, but there are VERY few options for the Huawei Watch unfortunately.
Just wondering for those who got the same band, does yours taper as well? Hoping maybe there are slight variations on the design so maybe I can get one that doesn't taper and at least gives the 22mm width promised.
This is the one I'm referring to:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BWJKISG/ref=pe_386430_206921500_TE_dp_1
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I returned mine for the same reason, citing inaccurate description, and the photos do not show taper. I ended up ordering this Rerii one and have had it about a week, and so far I really like it. No taper and doesn't bind or pinch. Surprising for a $17 band. The description says 18mm, but that is just at the crown, the band itself is 22mm wide.

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