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How is the music quality compared to the fassy. I know it had a top quality headphone amp (for a phone). Can the incredible 2 compare?
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How is the music quality compared to the fassy. I know it had a top quality headphone amp (for a phone). Can the incredible 2 compare?
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I know this annoying that the first response doesn't know the answer (although I would love to hear some opinions - I'll miss Voodoo Sound, unless there is an HTC equivalent)
Anybody former Fascinate owners want to give a quick rundown of what to expect? I just started researching and reading, but still not quite sure I get the rooting process on HTC and why 2.3.3 cannot be rooted....I'm not even sure if I have that part right.
I think I can answer that question. Gingerbread added some security patches and fixed the hole which was used to root the phone.
The droid x is the same way now. Originally it could be rooted but now no longer.
It's likely someone will develop a method though it may take some time. You can always try the hardware method xrc Inc I think.
I just ordered my replacement today and have been doing some reading haha...
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To answer your question...
NO, you can't really compare the Inc2 to the Fascinate, the loudspeaker in the inc2 sucks big time, is not good, the music app is great and i think is better than the fascinate, but as far as the hardware speaker, no, is not as good.
I don't think he was referring to just the hardware speaker, I think he meant the audio output in general, but especially when using headphones. Not having ever used a fascinate I can't compare, but I'd recommend trying DSPmanager to tweak the EQ and audio settings.
The stock inc2 sounds decent. Nothing compared to voodoo sound. Nothing. But its not to bad once you get used to it.
Bob
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Thanks bob. I was afraid of that. I'll still probably switch but there are definitely things ill miss about my fassy.
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If you are using headphones and are using HTC's default music player with SRS support turned on, it sounds amazing. As others have said, the speaker sucks big time. I have the ringer volume turned all the way up and still miss about half of the notifications. I had a D1 before this, and the speaker on that thing was incredible (no pun intended), and the Inc2 is sad in comparison. Can't compare to the fascinate, but I'd have to imagine just about anything short of a cup and wire would be better.
By now we all know our live sound recording at concerts completely sucks. It sounds like muffled garbage which nullifies the point of even whipping out the ol' e4gt to record and brag to your friends later :/ I've read up and down the boards about the ig/lgcamera app on the market. I was wondering if anyone had luck in obtaining correct ig/lgcamcorder settings to achieve better sound quality? If so mind posting? I've sat w/ the app for about an hour trying all sorts of toggles. All I ever seem to see on the screen, more often than not, is some "Recording failed" BS or I have to toggle between filters before the screen unfreezes. I have 6 major concerts I'm attending this month and would really love to have better vid clips with great audio you can actually understand. Any help here would be greatly appreciated! Thanx in advance XDA Community.
our phone can only record as good as the microphone it has can record.. thats like asking how we can make a 2mp camera take 8mp quality images by just installing another camera app
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Yeah the microphone sucks. I went to Iron Maiden last Friday and the sound of the videos suck.
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elliwigy said:
our phone can only record as good as the microphone it has can record.. thats like asking how we can make a 2mp camera take 8mp quality images by just installing another camera app
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I completely understand where you're coming from and do appreciate the input, but we can all overclock our phone with a quick updated kernel and 3rd party apps like Tegrak or SetCPU, can't we? . Have you at least read up on, or tested igcamera/camcorder before just saying it's impossible? I'm just playing devil's advocate here b/c I know lgcamcorder allows you to change the audio recording freq/rate which, in theory, will allow better audio recording inside videos I've also heard that plugging in an external mic with other apps will work too, but I haven't tried.
Update: Thanks to RubberBigPepper! He's got the latest working LGCamera app here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677645 . After installing the apk I recorded parts of Metallica - And Justice For All a few times (JBL speakers @ 100% incl. system sound) with stock camcorder vs. lgcamcorder (changed audio encoder to AAC, Audio sample rate to 48000 and Audio bitrate to 320000). LG won that contest hands down. Don't take my word for it, check it out yourselves. I don't have a data cable w/me atm so I'll upload my comparison in a few hours.
thats because our phones hardware is able to be overclocked to a certain extent and the kernel we need because the stock kernel doesnt have the ability to be tweaked.. but hey, if you got an improvement by using a different camera and bitrate then awesome lol. i still dont think its going to sound as clear as you want it at a live recording but hopefully its at least decent for ya.. i personally NEVER use my camera for anything lol so good to know tweaking it can help somewhat
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This goes along with my idea, AOKP, MIUI, and CM9 cameras function better than any TW (IMO). I say this because their ability to process light seems to be slightly more advanced, though not as advanced as the iPhone which has a far superior camera application. If the settings can be tweaked to grasp certain things in images e.g. light, exposure, focus...then why can't settings be implemented in order to achieve the same thing via camcorder? If there is an ability to mess with settings that enhance cetains audio features then the sound quality should improve. I'm interested in seing what others have to say.
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thats because our phones hardware is able to be overclocked to a certain extent and the kernel we need because the stock kernel doesnt have the ability to be tweaked.. but hey, if you got an improvement by using a different camera and bitrate then awesome lol. i still dont think its going to sound as clear as you want it at a live recording but hopefully its at least decent for ya.. i personally NEVER use my camera for anything lol so good to know tweaking it can help somewhat
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I'm in agreeance with ya man. And yes, obviously we can only go so far with what hardware is provided to us. I just annoys me that we have an iphone killer but ****ty sound qual. in camcorder. I just hate to lose bragging rights when I'm next to a friend w/an iDevice comparing vids:/
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I'm in agreeance with ya man. And yes, obviously we can only go so far with what hardware is provided to us. I just annoys me that we have an iphone killer but ****ty sound qual. in camcorder. I just hate to lose bragging rights when I'm next to a friend w/an iDevice comparing vids:/
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Comparing quality of video/photos, you will lose every time (very few exceptions) the software is specific and until the auto features are pulled and implemented in to our devices then the picture quality will be better. I don't see where they win with sound qaulity though, background noise is a main factor on our device for me....does any here have the s3? if so can they confirm whether or not video audio is the same, maybe pulling that .apk and having some edits on the build prop would impose better values, hardware permitting! Just an idea.
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Comparing quality of video/photos, you will lose every time (very few exceptions) the software is specific and until the auto features are pulled and implemented in to our devices then the picture quality will be better. I don't see where they win with sound qaulity though, background noise is a main factor on our device for me....does any here have the s3? if so can they confirm whether or not video audio is the same, maybe pulling that .apk and having some edits on the build prop would impose better values, hardware permitting! Just an idea.
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<<<goosebumps just thinking about the possibility of that cam being ported heck Beats was blended with DSP and ported!
As far as comparison goes: I've stood side-by-side with friends at concerts, my E4GT vs. their iPhone 4s, and recorded the same video shots. My audio was absolute garbage, not one lyrics clear. iPhone 4s however was crystal...
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<<<goosebumps just thinking about the possibility of that cam being ported heck Beats was blended with DSP and ported!
As far as comparison goes: I've stood side-by-side with friends at concerts, my E4GT vs. their iPhone 4s, and recorded the same video shots. My audio was absolute garbage, not one lyrics clear. iPhone 4s however was crystal...
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Yeah..no we can't allot that happen. Wouldn't want people to think an iPhones decent would we. Not I
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krisI0N said:
Yeah..no we can't allot that happen. Wouldn't want people to think an iPhones decent would we. Not I
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Exactly, it's just absolutely unacceptable I've been w/ Android since the G1 went on presale back in the day, yo! I've got at least a dozen Apple lifers to make the switch to "'Droid". I hate selling ish and sounding like a billboard... I don't believe in it, but dammit! Our EG4T will still hold us over 'til the SGS4 comes out (in what I predict will be Spring). I live in J-ville, FL and we don't have LTE so the only benefit of upgrading to SGS3 is a faster 3g, which is irrelevant to me since I'm always on WiFi. Anywho.... LONG LIVE ANDROID, XDA, and OPENSOURCE T3CH!
I love how people come in with possibly unrelated reasons like oh we can overclock so we should be able to this and that.
About the only thing your going to be able to do here is have someone mod the camera app for a higher data rate and its at 61 kbps. Being a Mono mic that is NOT as bad as it sounds. Being Mono you need only half the data rate for the same quality. So 61 kbps is around the same as 128 which would be considered decent for AAC. If you can get that to 96 or even 128 your going to have the equivalent of 192 to 256 kbps data rates you normally use for stereo.
Sure if the sampling rate is turned down artificially you might be able to fix that. Its at 44,100 now which is fine. Max sample rate is going to be physically tied to the analog to digital converter chip.
If the mic is physically cutting out a certain frequencies and sound levels there is absolutely jack you can do about it except change it physically and you dont really know its properties as is might make selection a little more blind. Most cheap microphones are going to cut out with loud music and fail to record any bass at all. Mics that size in the 2,500 dollar range still have their own issues
Well did some testing noticed some things changing the settings for the AOSP camera versus my old stock camera recordings.
By default the aosp camera audio setting is set to 128Kbps stereo and 48,000hz. It seems the 48,000hz sticks but the audio caps out at 96 Kbps. So that said there seems to be some improvement to be had versus the stock camera application. As per my previous post this is in comparison to 44,100hz and 61 Kbps. I tried 96,000hz for kicks it does not work. AOSP has 2 channels enabled unlike stock but setting it to 1 or 2 doesnt have too much effect. I will have to test but if its writing 2 channels of mono audio it might be harmful to the quality since the overall bitrate is for both channels.
EDIT - The settings for the aosp camera vary wildly on our CM9 builds it seems every few days someone has changed this or that or maybe the source file has i do not know.
I have a friend at work with the S3.. We went to a concert together and the S3 audio was only about 25% better.. Samsung has crappy mics in their phones.. However I have a Samsung Samsung HMX-U20 hand held pocket cam and the sound recording at any concert is simply amazing.. But hate having to bring two devices to events.
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I have a friend at work with the S3.. We went to a concert together and the S3 audio was only about 25% better.. Samsung has crappy mics in their phones.. However I have a Samsung Samsung HMX-U20 hand held pocket cam and the sound recording at any concert is simply amazing.. But hate having to bring two devices to events.
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Thanks for the update on the S3, glad I didn't get roped in and am waiting on the S4
I am very disappointed that I have no solution for recording good audio in video in a loud environment with the Gnex except for good headphones. Is there no kenrel/ rom/ app that allows us to lower the mic gain while recording? I know the Nexus 4 has the same problem but it seems fixed using FauxSound from Playstore.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...kang.fauxsound
In S3 I know they removed the lower frequencies and you get OK video record even in loud environment but it is still bad.
I really miss Voodoo sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRByGJA-i4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here is a sample on how it should work ( I don't want to make Nokia the better one but damn it sounds good ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYRPWPfcCqg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
In the future I won't buy another phone without first testing this.Please if anyone knows a solution reply! 10x!
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Just checking in on how audio quality is while recording video? (thinking about getting this device).
Does it get that 'underwater' effect that sometimes plagues audio in video?
Is it able to record loud noise without distorting?
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Just checking in on how audio quality is while recording video? (thinking about getting this device).
Does it get that 'underwater' effect that sometimes plagues audio in video?
Is it able to record loud noise without distorting?
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Good question considering I like recording concerts I go to.. I haven't been to one yet, but would like to see someone's recording of one. I know the LG G2 was horrible at recording concerts as well as the whole line of Galaxy phones.. Sadly the best phone I've ever heard for recording loud volumes is the iphone
This is an advertised feature of the G3 and I was also wondering about it.
Coming from an S3 where you couldnt make out anything except garbled noise when recording in loud environments, I was also keen to see if this would really work.
So, just the other night I was in the pub, bunch of people, some DJ playing some cheesy tunes with decent amount of bass and lots of noise of people etc etc.. Now I don't want to upload the video because my workmates would kill me, you know the drunken antics people get into, but I will say the following about the video recording in this noisy environment:
1. You could hear everything!
2. It sounds a bit like music in a tin, but even above the music / screams and noise you could still clearly hear people speaking and what they were saying perfectly.
3. Played it back on the PC and it definitely still has bass / treble / mid range, maybe a bit too much mid range but I think that's the compromise between being able to still record voices while all this noise is happening.
4. All in all great, I am pleased.
5. Need to record at a festival though with super loud sound so that I can compare the sound to my friends Nokia & iPhone video recordings to rate it a bit better. (if you have links to videos recorded by such devices that I can compare to, I will have a look and see what I notice different / better /worse)
I am no audiophile / sound engineer, but these are my impressions of video recording in a loud environment.
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I am going to a concert next weekend. I will test it out then
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I was just about to make a post on this!!!
TLDR- PERFECT PHONE!
Here is Seven Lions in gainesville, FL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8wCq6Me5ew
Taken on an LG G3. Took it on Thursday Night. If I took video on my Galaxy S3 in the same spot, you wouldnt be able to hear anything because the bass would take over...
Here is my Galaxy S3 taking video at EDC Orlando in November 2013... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSwQ7WIrJVM too much bass...
Dang it really does take good audio in videos. Great vids!
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I can confirm this phone has good audio recording at loud concerts which I go to quite often. It's not the best quality but at least it doesn't distort or get overpowered by bass (like my note 2). I am very satisfied. I can finally record artists and enjoy rewatching the clips on my phone.
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I have also discovered the same problem. I have searched a bit and its turn out to be "noise cancellation" feature build in kit kat, the problem is presented in nexus 5 too, and google working on it to fix this in 4.4.3, otherwise in very loud environments like concerts noise cancellation do amazing job, but it is very bad for quite environment.
This is what bugs me most about my G3. The noise cancellation that kicks in after 3 or 4 seconds is just way too aggressive for the sake of reducing distortion in harsh environments. It practically ruins the sound quality unless you have someone speaking nearby. Every video I have taken sounds muffled and garbled.
This is definitely one area in which I prefer my old One M7 with the "HDR" dual membrane microphones which would simultaneously be clear and avoid distortion. LG should have taken this route if they were serious about avoiding distortion.
Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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Oh there was music with that? Dang was too busy watching the video
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Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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I found this thread while searching for a solution to very audio problem mentioned here.
I also have an LG G3 and have recently returned from a week holiday only to find that the 140 clips i took all have this audio problem.
Nauvho, you mentioned that LG/Google has fixed this in an update. I received the V10g update recently. However, it still has this problem.
Is this the same update that fixed it for you?
Cheers!
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I found this thread while searching for a solution to very audio problem mentioned here.
I also have an LG G3 and have recently returned from a week holiday only to find that the 140 clips i took all have this audio problem.
Nauvho, you mentioned that LG/Google has fixed this in an update. I received the V10g update recently. However, it still has this problem.
Is this the same update that fixed it for you?
Cheers!
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Hi there, yes this update fix the problem for me, however i can't confirm that this update is targeted for this bug at all, but it is confirmed that it is android bug.
Thanks for replying!
How strange that it fixed it for you and not me.
Did you get the V10g or the V10e update?
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Thanks for replying!
How strange that it fixed it for you and not me.
Did you get the V10g or the V10e update?
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Its 10g, 10g-EUR-XX to be specific.
nauvho said:
Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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Which update? V10H or V10J or which one?
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Which update? V10H or V10J or which one?
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I have said this already 10g fix it for me.
That's the same one that i got.
I wonder why it didn't fix it for me. Very annoying.
You say it's an Android thing but why is it not present on other Android 4.4.2 devices?
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I have also discovered the same problem. I have searched a bit and its turn out to be "noise cancellation" feature build in kit kat, the problem is presented in nexus 5 too, and google working on it to fix this in 4.4.3, otherwise in very loud environments like concerts noise cancellation do amazing job, but it is very bad for quite environment.
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Read my previous post
I've been very disappointed with the video recording on the m9. M7 was great. M8 was fine bit not quite as good as the M7 but the m9 is terrible. Exposure changes from shadow to sun are far too extreme and change far too easily and seems far too unstable. Detail isn't as clear too.
I found that dropping the contrast by a notch has improved things a bit though.
Anyway, the thing that's puzzling me is that I noticed something today. When you switch from normal 1080p to 60fps it seems a much wider angle on the video and the detail is better. It's as if normal 1080p is zoomed in a bit, which I suppose, would account for loss of detail. I'm not too technically minded but surely this shouldn't be the case.
Can any of you lovely people check that theirs does the same and I'm not going mad?
Thanks in advance.
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What ROM are you running? What firmware do you have? On 1.32 the camera was a bit crap with over exposure but since the 1.40 update its been improved.
You can edit settings to get the most out of the sensor which in all fairness is superb once you've edited the settings.
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I've been very disappointed with the video recording on the m9. M7 was great. M8 was fine bit not quite as good as the M7 but the m9 is terrible. Exposure changes from shadow to sun are far too extreme and change far too easily and seems far too unstable. Detail isn't as clear too.
I found that dropping the contrast by a notch has improved things a bit though.
Anyway, the thing that's puzzling me is that I noticed something today. When you switch from normal 1080p to 60fps it seems a much wider angle on the video and the detail is better. It's as if normal 1080p is zoomed in a bit, which I suppose, would account for loss of detail. I'm not too technically minded but surely this shouldn't be the case.
Can any of you lovely people check that theirs does the same and I'm not going mad?
Thanks in advance.
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That's cause 60fps is 4k recording.
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