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I can choose beetwen nexus or note... Which i should choose? Is non-external SD, software buttons or 5mpix camera bad? pls post your experience
non external SD is bad if you have a lot of songs and videos, which i don't. Software buttons are great as i am able to configure the buttons' color and placement. 5mp camera is good enough for my needs.
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I can choose beetwen nexus or note... Which i should choose? Is non-external SD, software buttons or 5mpix camera bad? pls post your experience
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Galaxy Nexus would be my first choice. I was excited the VZW version was 32gb but really I don't even use most of it as I use Google Music to stream my uploaded music. I really am liking the on screen buttons more than the physical ones. As for the camera the zero shutter lag if awesome, I don't see why people are complaining about it as the 5mp is fine. So far I love my Nexus!!!
Note is a niche product for those that want a big screen. I would of gotten this if it had pentaband so I can import it on tmo, but after using Nexus for a while - I've come to the conclusion I wouldn't really be happy with the size of the phone.
The nexus is actually pretty big for a 4.3" screen phone as well, due to the massive bezel above and below the phone. But the fact that it's really a 4.65" screen and with custom roms, will likely be able to utilize the full screen for everything means it's a bigger bang for buck than any other 4.3" phone with soft keys. Try watching an HD video on it, you'll feel that the full screen size is actually really nice as is.
Now i have galaxy note and i now can refund and buy Gnexus.. But i like stylus but it is inaccurate. So not usable for drawing pictures.. Also have many MANY problems with screen (horuzontal lines,dead pixel etc... And also.. Can be Gnexus kept in warranty with locking bootloaders back? i am happy flasher and need warranty
I had the note, while very nice I just couldnt use it as my daily driver. Having that thing in my shorts pocket at the gym or out on a bike ride or a rollerblade was the reason. While it will fit in the pocket in an accident I just cant see it not getting busted. So I now have the GNex and love it.
I did not get the Note because it was not pentaband and therefore it would not work on TMoUS.
However, I am very happy with the Nexus...
very big thanks to all reports ! but something more.. what about graphic chipset Note vs Nexus ? is it same ? i heard Nexus have older graphic
somebody ?
If your hands are above average big, the Note might just be for you. For me, the Galaxy Nexus is just about big enough and anything bigger would be severely impractical.
The Note has a bigger screen, but the Nexus has roughly the same resolution and can render an equal amount of content in the browser and other places with equal detail.
The Nexus has a super-fast camera. Maybe not the best on true colours etc, but it's super-fast. None of your shots will be blurred, like typical pictures taken with a cheap digital camera is.
Right now Note comes with some extra stuff and a styles and runs a Touchwiz'ed Android build. The Nexus is a nexus, 100% open and running ICS fresh of the Google source.
For me the Nexus is the only choice. Two of my colleagues opted for the Note instead. We're all happy.
Non-external SD can be solved by USB OTG and memory-sticks. Or 1TB external harddrives. Really. I think the camera is amazing. Megapixels doesn't really matter that much once they go high enough.
Ok so i will try nexus
The only thing putting me off the note 2 is the smaller screen resolution. I can imagine apps like the samsung calendar must be less usable. Also I find 800 pixels is a dream resolution for viewing internet pages.
For those that switched from the note 1 how are you finding it?
Is the less dpi really that noticeable? I'm actually very excited about the new aspect ratio as I watch a lot of movies on my phone
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Finally a thread like this
It's really annoying in some situations but then you launch a video and your stunned.
You browse, somehow less good, it's quite noticeable when you had Note 1 but then the screen is so much better in ALL other aspects.
Then you get no problems with app compatibility due to the more standard resolution. You see more webapps and games thought for 720p.
So wrapping up, I guess I'll get use to it and with all the other goodies on Note 2 it's worth the upgrade: amazing batterie life (doubled), screen colour and brightness, speed and great sound.
I'll keep the nostalgy of the original Note owner though :<
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Isn't the one lesser column of icons also the result of less horizontal pixel? Yes I agree the screen is much better, but I don't suppose it's just for web viewing. There are the utilitarian point of view to this. I would imagine people who used to have certain amount of icons on a single page and then suddenl reduce would feel negatively. It's like taking a feature out. I am coming from an Epic 4G so I got no bone to pick on this just voicing another valid PoV that some people didn't see.
Sometimes I'll do something and my brain will go, 'that looks a bit odd', because I remembered how it was before.
But you'll get over it. The Note 2 is THAT much better.
- Frank
hey guys i was thinking about getting a galaxy but my only concern is the screen i have like an ocd thing about pixelation and i heard their hardly isnt any on the galaxy note 2 although it has less pixel density as well, well maybe at least compared to the gs3. how are you guys liking the new screen?
I came from the high ppi iPhone 4, from 326 to 267, and I'm very happy.
I'm not as OCD as you, but I'm still OCD, and with all the features of the Note 2, and humongous battery, I am definitely pleased.
1280x720 > 960x640 anyday, albeit lower ppi.
If you mean, clarity of small text. I can read full page pdf docs with smallish writing, in portrait mode. Dont have to zoom in. Iphone would be just a blur. The massive screen more than compensates for effectively tiny ppi differences. Wait till we have 1080p on 5inch displays then it will be more noticeable.
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No problems here either. I've owned all of At&T's recent top end phones (iPhone 4, Note 1, One X, and S3 to name a few) , and I think it's the best screen on a mobile device to date. PPI isn't the end all be all. The bigger the device the greater the viewing distance is. The greater the distance the less PPI really matters. Can't really compare a 4" and 5.5" device on PPI alone.
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That's great. I've been debating on getting one but now that I have opinions I might go buy one now
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/runevenes/sets/72157631743373121/with/8076319286/
Photos of Note 2 and the Galaxy S2.
Play Store (marked) is the S2
Chrome is the Note 2
Click on the pic to get a bigger pic, then rightclick and select orginal for the big pic.
What do you owners think about using the tab as a reader?
I'm thinking about investing in either the 8.4 or the 10.1 as the reader. Simply for things like news articles, blogs, and maybe even using the Amazon Kindle app to read books. How much stress would it put on the eyes?
It's not stress on the eyes I would worry about...it's the weight of the device. The screens are mostly the same on these devices but the extra weight of a full size tablet might making extended reading sessions difficult. I would suggest getting the 8.4. I just upgraded to one from an LG G Pad and use it mostly for reading Kindle, Feedly, and Play Magazines.
I'm pretty sure there was a setting I saw that said Reading mode or something to that effect.
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It's not stress on the eyes I would worry about...it's the weight of the device.
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I second this. The NotePro 12.2 is amazing for reading, I really like the sharpness of the text. Been using the Newsweek app a lot, read some magazines, comics, etc. View angles are good and you can adjust brighness easily.
There is the "reading mode" indeed but so far I don't see any difference when I turn it on and off.. not all apps support it.
The weight is indeed the problem, don't expect to be holding it up for long, as you would with a very light e-reader or a paper magazine. It will have to rest on your lap (even that way it can tire wrists a bit) or a stand.
I've tried all of the current 8" tablets for extended periods of time for reading. I own (or owned) the mini, the mini retina, the LG G Pad, the Samsung Tab 3 8", the Samsung Note 8", thus Asus Memo HD 8" and currently have the Tab Pro 8.4 on order.
I also had other slightly smaller tablets like the 7.7" Toshiba AT270 and the Samsung 7.7"
They all work fine for reading. Weight with a thin 8" tablet is negligble. In fact if you compare any of these to the top end reader available, the Kobo Aura HD, they only weigh on average about 100 grams more. That is not a big weight delta.
The Samsung tablets (the tab 3 8") and the new Tab Pro all have a reading mode. I used the Tab 3 8" for about 6 months and left it on by default. Wasn't really sure how it helped (or if it did at all).
Two things are important for reading under various conditions, max brightness/dimness and DPI. Max brightness is important if you are reading outside (one of the main reasons I got rid of the LG G Pad), max dimness is handy if you are reading in bed in the dark and don't want to wake up the wife with an 8" flashlight...
DPI, the higher the better as it increases the sharpness of text. As a reference, the Kobo Aura HD is 1440x1080 (6.8") with a DPI of 259. The Tab Pro has a 359 DPI....
I think 10.1 is the best size now that they're so light. I had an iPad 3 (retina) and then went for the first mini. Loved it for reading books, but not so much for Zino magazines, various PDFs that I needed, even web pages. Oh, heck, the occasional comic too. Just too small. I went to the iPad Air to get the size back after it hit 1lb. Two weeks ago i decided I was sick of iPhones and their size (I have big hands) and got a Nexus 5. Loved it so much I just sold the air and got the Tab Pro 10.1. I think the sharpness of current screens nullifies some of the 'lcd' tired eyes syndrome, and I've preferred the ability to turn to night mode in books to something like a paperwhite when it gets dark out.
100% i won't go with the 12in.
Still cannot decide if i want the 10 or 8.
If you are reading primarily books (as I do), there is no real benefit to a 10" tablet. It has more surface area than a page in a hard cover book.
If as mentioned above you read comics or magazines, the bigger surface area is handy.
The benefit of an 8" tablet is that it is extremely portable. I can fit mine into a pocket inside my coat. Try doing that with a 10" tablet...
Love my 8.4 for reading.
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I've tried all of the current 8" tablets for extended periods of time for reading. I own (or owned) the mini, the mini retina, the LG G Pad, the Samsung Tab 3 8", the Samsung Note 8", thus Asus Memo HD 8" and currently have the Tab Pro 8.4 on order.
I also had other slightly smaller tablets like the 7.7" Toshiba AT270 and the Samsung 7.7"
They all work fine for reading. Weight with a thin 8" tablet is negligble. In fact if you compare any of these to the top end reader available, the Kobo Aura HD, they only weigh on average about 100 grams more. That is not a big weight delta.
The Samsung tablets (the tab 3 8") and the new Tab Pro all have a reading mode. I used the Tab 3 8" for about 6 months and left it on by default. Wasn't really sure how it helped (or if it did at all).
Two things are important for reading under various conditions, max brightness/dimness and DPI. Max brightness is important if you are reading outside (one of the main reasons I got rid of the LG G Pad), max dimness is handy if you are reading in bed in the dark and don't want to wake up the wife with an 8" flashlight...
DPI, the higher the better as it increases the sharpness of text. As a reference, the Kobo Aura HD is 1440x1080 (6.8") with a DPI of 259. The Tab Pro has a 359 DPI....
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I like using a tablet for reading but I think you've made some unfair comparisons. First, the Aura HD is a "premium" ereader but if you look at the mainstream model, the Aura, you drop the weight from 240g to 174g. That puts the Tab Pro 8.4 at nearly double the weight (174g vs 331g). I use a 2012 Nexus 7 (340g, only slightly heavier than the Tab Pro 8.4)) and a Kindle Paperwhite (206g) for reading. The Nexus 7 is fine, but I will say that for long periods of use the lighter weight of the Paperwhite is much more comfortable. I often find myself leaning the Nexus 7 on something while I never have to do that with the Kindle. And comparing the DPI of an eInk screen vs an LCD doesn't give you a good benchmark of the text quality since they're using two vastly different rendering methods. For text alone I would take the eInk screen at the lower PPI over the LCD at the higher PPI.
That said, a tablet is much more versatile and can even be better for reading if you're not talking about eBooks but various web content as well.I would say the ideal tablet for reading depends a lot on what you plan on reading. If you read a lot of magazines, I might have to recommend something like the iPad Air as the size and aspect ratio make it great for magazines. If it's mostly web content a 10" Android tablet like the Tab Pro would be good since it most closely mimics a laptop display. If it's primarily eBooks the 7" tablets like the 2013 Nexus 7 are great for the lighter weight. Lastly, if you view more of a mix of the above, 8.4" is a great compromise.
Is there a reason the screen looks so bad in certain apps. I have used facebook, ebay, and other shopping apps and the images displayed look very bad, so bad that I want to get rid of the pro 8.4. I returned the 12.2 because I thought it was stretching the images and that was why the images were the way they were, but I have the same issue with the 8.4. I bought both at the same time. Why do the images not look crisp, it has plenty of resolution to output nice images. My ipad mini is far superior to this tablet so far in terms of image quality. I'm considering returning this one too and giving up on android tablets all together.
Anyone?
Open facebook on a ipad,, then open it on the pro...any difference, significant.
Open ebay on a ipad, then open it on the pro...any difference, significant.
Why?
Yet, on my phone, note 2, all looks great.
Not certain, and I don't have my 8.4 with me at the moment.
But my guess is that the Android Facebook, eBay apps you refer to are at a lower resolution than the iPad version. If the app is at a lower resolution, it doesn't matter what res the screen is. Like when you watch a standard definition TV program on an HD television, it looks like crap. On the Note 2, this will look fine as the pixel density is much lower. On the iPad, its easier for app developers to tailor the apps for the screen resolution, since there are only a few different iPad screen resolutions.
So if this is true, its not the fault of the device. Part of the issue may be the Android hardware "fragmentation" that is so often complained about. Or just the laziness on part of the app developers. The apps will probably be updated to a higher resolution, as resolution for Android devices increases across the board. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
There are lots of pros and cons to being on iPad versus Android. And some of those differenes are going to be more or less relevant to you as an individual. I'd weight the benefits in their entirety (as they apply to you), not just screen resolution on a few isolated apps. If iPad is better for you looking at the big picture, then by all means go that route. But otherwise, stick with Android.
Excellent point. Thank u.
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Another reason some images might look bad is because the tablet is such high resolution and has such a good quality display you can notice more JPEG compression on images and other minor defects in webpages ..etc since thats what high quality displays are supposed to do, reveal as much detail as possible, as other displays / might blur or distort the image because of the lower resolution / poor LCD density or add dithering, not to mention some displays aren't SRGB and might make the display more blue or over saturate while they might look better the colors are usually wrong.
I personally own the ipad mini retina model and I find the Samsung tab pro 8.4 has a better display, though the ipad is nice too from a visual standpoint, I don't use facebook but the ebay app, I don't see anything wrong with it they look the same on both the ipad and samsung except the samsung shows more content as it's a widescreen tablet (16:10) where the Ipad is 4:3 (square).
for example
Ipad mini retina (specs of my ipad)
2048 x 1536 = (4:3 QXGA)
Samsung tab pro 8.4
1600 x 2560 = (16:10 WQXGA )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg
^ see here for more details of resolution, WQXGA has about 2 inches of more rendering space then QXGA
Use whatever brings you joy though, they are both great devices I think the apple web browser is much more responsive on certain HTML 5 elements and the Samsung is great for everything else videos, music, tweaking ...etc