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[Q] Illegal to unlock?

Can someone smarter than me please explain what this means for us?
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/

Well they say it in the first few lines. You can no longer legally unlock your phone after Jan 26.
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Sooo.... XDA will either support "hackers" or delete threads/posts about the "illegal" activity?
d3athsd00r said:
Well they say it in the first few lines. You can no longer legally unlock your phone after Jan 26.
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This refers to carrier unlocking a phone. Such as taking your att phone and unlocking it to work on a tmobile or anyone else that has similar spectrum.
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Always pay attention to verbiage.
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Wow the US has some retarded laws for a country so obsessed with " freedom"

Yeah.. this is kind of bull****. I understand carriers doing this, but why is this mandated by the U.S. government?
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Wow the US has some retarded laws for a country so obsessed with " freedom"
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stevesteveLA said:
Sooo.... XDA will either support "hackers" or delete threads/posts about the "illegal" activity?
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I should hope not. Let's hope XDA remembers that not all its members reside in the U.S. and that unlocking is perfectly legal in other places.

pfft! I say whatever! How the hell are they gonna catch you? Well the US can enjoy that, but like anything there is always another way around so in reality there must likely isn't too much to worry about
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I think maybe people should read into the article a little more?
The new rule against unlocking cellphones won't be a problem for everybody, though. For example, Verizon's iPhone 5 comes out of the box already unlocked, and AT&T will unlock a phone once it is out of contract.
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That, to me, sounds like it's only ACTUALLY becoming illegal to unlock your device without your carrier's permission to do so. So... you know... like those of us on AT&T who decided to just chat them up and ask for the unlock code for our GS3's would be in the clear, since it was permitted by the carrier.

Illegal to unlock your phone now?

Has anyone seen this yet?
Apparently its going to be illegal to unlock your cellphone if you purchase it from a carrier instead of outright buying an unlocked phone.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/25/a...roviders-permission-to-unlock-new-cellphones/
I think we should all sign this petition

Webstas, none of my post below is directed at you. I can see how it would come off that way. That is not my intention at all.
Let's read a bit more into this. It is NOT going to be illegal for you to unlock your phone. It WILL be if you do it without the permission of your carrier. That means that T-Mobile and AT&T will have to do it for you. For Verizon (and Maybe Sprint but not sure), there is an FCC requirement that any devices utilizing 700MHz for LTE cannot be locked.
In your link, it states:
So what that all means is that, if you have a cellphone right now, you can still unlock it at your leisure and not be breaking the law. But any phone purchased after tomorrow will need to be done so with the permission of your wireless carrier.
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Then there is this from Cnet:
Starting this Saturday, it becomes illegal in this great land to unlock a new smartphone without the permission of the carrier that locked it in the first place.
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Legacy phones seem to be exempt to this policy for good reason.
Enforceability? I highly doubt you'll get a jail sentence for going to a 3rd party to unlock your phone. Maybe a small $20 penalization on your bill. But really, how could they enforce that? Are the big 4 going to run some algorithm that will scan all of their customers IMEI numbers and ping the mothership when the come across someone that used a hack or 3rd party? I doubt it.
Not saying that there isn't cause for concern at BigBrother again dipping his hand in the cookie jar. But let's not get the pitchforks and torches just yet. Petitions are great ways for people to voice their opinions and great things can happen because of them (ala Change.org and the Verizon $2 "convenience" fee), but they need to be worded correctly and not some rant like many become.
My work filter won't let me look at the petition that you linked, so I am not sure what it says. I work for lawyers, so I tend to think the way they do.

Its true...better get your new phones NOW before this is enacted across the board.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...king-of-smartphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/

Plus, T-Mobile makes it pretty easy to request an unlock anyways. For customers on a monthly plan:
- your T-Mobile account is in good standing;
- you have a minimum of 40 consecutive days of active service with T-Mobile;
- you did not request an unlock code in the last 90 days (except in connection with a device exchange or upgrade);
- the device has not been reported as lost or stolen;
- T-Mobile has verified usage of the IMEI applicable to the device; and
the device has been completely paid for.
I just requested the unlock code for my old G2 and got it in about 2 weeks.

I only bought unlocked phones in the past. But since there is only one carrier I intend to do business with, an unlocked or locked T-Mobile phone won't matter to me.

Would this be true for contract bought phones? Or even phones bought without contracts?
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It's illegal to download pirated movies, music and software. I'm glad we don't have any of that on the internet anymore.

52me52 said:
Would this be true for contract bought phones? Or even phones bought without contracts?
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It would be true for every phone, regardless of how it is purchased.
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Woody said:
My work filter won't let me look at the petition that you linked, so I am not sure what it says. I work for lawyers, so I tend to think the way they do.
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your work filter blocks whitehouse.gov? wow thats strict

dodgefan67 said:
your work filter blocks whitehouse.gov? wow thats strict
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My work blocks EVERY website not applicable to work. And in my line of work, that means we get about 5 sites including our own and our own internal site... Smh. Thank heavens for smartphones
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After I heard about this a couple of days ago and I was driving home from work sort of zoning out and I wondered :
Could websites like this one get into some sort of legal trouble? I'm sure that I am way over thinking this, but a lot of websites specifically show step by step instructions on how to ROOT almost every phone known to man. But then I thought to myself.... Just because something may be against the law, doesn't mean that you can't talk about it or have instructions on how to do such a thing. Okay, now I'm questioning myself after that description. What do you guys think? Will this have any effect on us going into the future?
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Rooting and unlocking are different. Unlocking is a very small % of sites like XDA
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se1000 said:
It's illegal to download pirated movies, music and software. I'm glad we don't have any of that on the internet anymore.
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Lol
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mo...-regarding-dmca-phone-unlocking-restrictions/
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Sign the petition to stop this from happening.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ocking-phones-yourself-make-your-voice-heard/
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...from what I've read this only affects people who make and use tools to unlock their phones for free without contacting apple/the carrier like the one for the iPhone.
Its my understanding that websites that offer unlock codes for a fee (or just imei unlock in the case of an iPhone) are still going to be legal.
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zander21510 said:
...from what I've read this only affects people who make and use tools to unlock their phones for free without contacting apple/the carrier like the one for the iPhone.
Its my understanding that websites that offer unlock codes for a fee (or just imei unlock in the case of an iPhone) are still going to be legal.
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It's now illegal to unlock your phone whatsoever unless done by the carrier.
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Towle said:
It's now illegal to unlock your phone whatsoever unless done by the carrier.
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That doesn't seem right...so say I get an at&t phone on ebay and want to unlock it so I can use it on T-Mobile. Do I have to go beg at&t for them to unlock it now??
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zander21510 said:
That doesn't seem right...so say I get an at&t phone on ebay and want to unlock it so I can use it on T-Mobile. Do I have to go beg at&t for them to unlock it now??
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Unfortunately, yes.
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dave2metz said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mo...-regarding-dmca-phone-unlocking-restrictions/
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Sign the petition to stop this from happening.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ocking-phones-yourself-make-your-voice-heard/
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Edit... Waste of time
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T-Mobile will fight this full force. Their newest game plan is to have AT&T customers bring their unlocked phone over to them for use on the T-Mobile network.
As for us current T-Mobile customers, all you have to do is simply call them up and tell them that you are going out of the country for a while. They will give you the unlock code for free within a couple days. T-Mobile is really good about unlocking. Honestly we, as T-Mobile customers, have nothing to worry about with this matter.
(Though I do still agree that this is a total BS law which should be overturned).
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need help with locked phone

My wife lost her phone about a month ago and got a new one through insurence.while we wer moving we found her old note 2.i started using it and tmobile locked the phone.ive rooted it and romed it and cant seem to get it unlocked.i took a shoot at getting one of the unlock codes from a web site but it was a scam just like i thought it would be.what do i need to do to get it unlocked.ive also tried by inputing the *#---------- but from what ive seen everbody has a 4th option and i cant ever get it to come up.any thoughts on how to get this done

I think u have to downgrade to another version...but thats all I know...
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"Where you think she at when she ain't with you?"...

will not for T-Mobile again unless they unblock it u can unlock it for another GSM. Carrier but will not work for T-Mobile not matter what as it is THE IMEI WHICH IS BLOCKED NOT YOUR PHONE BEING LOCKED.
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Both are correct. Downgrade then unlock then get aprepaid company
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kintwofan said:
Both are correct. Downgrade then unlock then get aprepaid company
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Won't work if it's blacklisted. All gsm carriers in the u.s share blacklists now.
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GN2Rabbit said:
Won't work if it's blacklisted. All gsm carriers in the u.s share blacklists now.
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Can you link this. My understanding is att and t mobile will be with others soon. I see people all the time do this
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kintwofan said:
Can you link this. My understanding is att and t mobile will be with others soon. I see people all the time do this
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http://www.ctia.org/media/press/body.cfm/prid/2220
Here is the member list. Also these blacklists will soon apply to resellers. I had a rep from at&t and t-mobile confirm that.
http://www.ctia.org/membership/ctia_members/
Soon blacklisted phones will be paperweights.
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my suggestion is to change the imei its illegal but **** it you having a beast device
if anything message me i cant talk about that in thread

GN2Rabbit said:
http://www.ctia.org/media/press/body.cfm/prid/2220
Here is the member list. Also these blacklists will soon apply to resellers. I had a rep from at&t and t-mobile confirm that.
http://www.ctia.org/membership/ctia_members/
Soon blacklisted phones will be paperweights.
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This confirms exactly what I was saying. I know is coming, but it's not here yet. So for the time being the op can use the phone on prepay. For how long who knows.
To the guy above me. Please delete your comment. You can't discuss our recommend illegal activity on xda. That kind of thing can get xda in trouble and get this thread locked quickly.
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kintwofan said:
This confirms exactly what I was saying. I know is coming, but it's not here yet. So for the time being the op can use the phone on prepay. For how long who knows.
To the guy above me. Please delete your comment. You can't discuss our recommend illegal activity on xda. That kind of thing can get xda in trouble and get this thread locked quickly.
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+1

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Deeznutz you're every where my man
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kintwofan said:
Deeznutz you're every where my man
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And you kind sir
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kintwofan said:
This confirms exactly what I was saying. I know is coming, but it's not here yet. So for the time being the op can use the phone on prepay. For how long who knows.
To the guy above me. Please delete your comment. You can't discuss our recommend illegal activity on xda. That kind of thing can get xda in trouble and get this thread locked quickly.
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I called simplemobile and they said that soon they'll be checking phones against the black list. They'll do it on activation of service. They'll be doing it within 6 months. So enjoy it while it lasts.
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GN2Rabbit said:
I called simplemobile and they said that soon they'll be checking phones against the black list. They'll do it on activation of service. They'll be doing it within 6 months. So enjoy it while it lasts.
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Sure....I called too and they said as compensation if your phone ends up blocked they'll give you a new note 4 in place of it.
By the way my point still stands, for this minute he can use it on prepaid. Oh and based on what you just said
"They'll do it on activation of service."
If is activated now he'll be good when they make the switch. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with the besides start a fight you're losing and looking stupid doing at the same time.
And for the record I have at mobile account with an active note I was just trying to help the OP my start a fight not sure why you even jumped in
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kintwofan said:
Sure....I called too and they said as compensation if your phone ends up blocked they'll give you a new note 4 in place of it.
By the way my point still stands, for this minute he can use it on prepaid. Oh and based on what you just said
"They'll do it on activation of service."
If is activated now he'll be good when they make the switch. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with the besides start a fight you're losing and looking stupid doing at the same time.
And for the record I have at mobile account with an active note I was just trying to help the OP my start a fight not sure why you even jumped in
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Don't know. But it won't be an option for long. That is why I chimed in. We all knew it wouldn't last. For now yes it'll work. But after they enforce the black list who knows.
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Stage Fright Patched Note still vulnerable?

Zimperium app. Unsure if it's just scamming people or what?
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Lookout says it's good. Couldn't find the Lookout app through Play Store but a Google search did it.
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The AVG app said it was vulnerable if mms was set to auto-retrieve
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The Lookout app says mine is vulnerable, but from what I understand, most Androids are, so the app really told me nothing.
But at the last item on the list, it says to download Lookout, leading me to believe that the app is nothing more than a downloaded advertisement.

Lookout is probably the most reputable mobile antivirus out there. I'd be astounded if they pulled a stunt like that.
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keithfrombm said:
Zimperium app. Unsure if it's just scamming people or what?
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Same here. Updated my gs5 today and both mine and my wife's phone still say vulnerable on zimperium but safe on lookout. How can we know for sure?

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Lookout is probably the most reputable mobile antivirus out there. I'd be astounded if they pulled a stunt like that.
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I don't think they're that reputable when most people disable the pre-installed version when they get their phone.

Most people don't disable anything. Hardcore phone jockeys like here on XDA do, but that's because we disable EVERYTHING that's pre-installed and unessential in the usually vain hopes of boosting performance. And if they weren't reputable, I doubt Samsung would deliberately partner them with KNOX.
https://www.lookout.com/news-mobile-security/lookout-for-business
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That's funny because I don't know anyone, here in the real world, that keeps it. And a vast majority of them don't even know what XDA is.
And just because they are teaming up with Sammy doesn't mean anything other than they are paying more than the others were offering.

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That's funny because I don't know anyone, here in the real world, that keeps it. And a vast majority of them don't even know what XDA is.
And just because they are teaming up with Sammy doesn't mean anything other than they are paying more than the others were offering.
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I emailed the zimperium to ask about the discrepancy. I know some people are reporting passing their test. My friends nexus 5 passed today after update. Why are some still failing? Hopefully we hear more over the next few days.

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I emailed the zimperium to ask about the discrepancy. I know some people are reporting passing their test. My friends nexus 5 passed today after update. Why are some still failing? Hopefully we hear more over the next few days.
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Good idea. I noticed in the Play comments a lot of people having the same issue.
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What firmware are you on guys. My wife's note 4 is on COC6 and every app I check her phone not vulnerable. There was 2 updates with in 2 weeks. First to COC5 and on august 2 to COC6.

COC6
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I bet they would respond to twitter posts regarding this discrepancy. Wonder if anyone here wants to hit them up. I would but don't have an account or know much about it other than companies usually don't ignore social network postings.

axxel6307 said:
I bet they would respond to twitter posts regarding this discrepancy. Wonder if anyone here wants to hit them up. I would but don't have an account or know much about it other than companies usually don't ignore social network postings.
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LOL I dropped my Twitter after it was hacked by some Muslims. They were posting stuff in my name to it. So I deleted it and never went back. Over never had my Facebook hacked, they attempted to hack my Google account but failed. I decided since it took less than three months to hack Twitter, their security must be $#!+. Oh well. Barely used it anyhow.
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Root discussion(Think tank)

It's still early and I have a feeling it will take a while until we have some form of root (if at all), but where should we start? I personally do not know the first place to start, but if anyone out there has any ideas, feel free to discuss them here.
I would like to make a bounty, but it seems like the trend has been a purchase is required to get root.
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lol, I was wondering when one of these threads would start up.
Do we even know if any of the normal parties will be working on root for the dt2?

graymonkey44 said:
It's still early and I have a feeling it will take a while until we have some form of root (if at all), but where should we start? I personally do not know the first place to start, but if anyone out there has any ideas, feel free to discuss them here.
I would like to make a bounty, but it seems like the trend has been a purchase is required to get root.
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I expect to have mine new dt2 in the morning. Anyway the KINGROOT will root the device? they claim lollipop root....

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lol, I was wondering when one of these threads would start up.
Do we even know if any of the normal parties will be working on root for the dt2?
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I figured I would pave the way for a discussion, lol. I wish I knew anything about this stuff, otherwise I'd take a shot at it.
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King root doesn't work tried that day 1

anyone try sunshine?
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I figured I would pave the way for a discussion, lol. I wish I knew anything about this stuff, otherwise I'd take a shot at it.
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I was tinkering with the Moto BL unlock site yesterday. Actually got it to the point where I could get the "request unlock key" to show, but would fail upon clicking that to actually getting the emailed key

I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.

rajuabju said:
I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.
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I know, its a shame. I absolutely LOVE moto devices, but have to seriously rethink since they seem to have stopped releasing dev devices

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rajuabju said:
I hate to be Debbie Downer. But yea.... dont buy this phone is you're expecting root or an unlocked bootloader to happen any time soon.
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most likely as true as your avatar is pink.
i will root it up if it happens but not likely anymore and only recently began to agree with what i just posted above and always knew it would come eventually but not anymore

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Motorola provided me with this...

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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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That most likely doesn't work because Verizon has to lock down everything. I hope it does though. Let us know what happens
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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We are not on this list or the turbo before us so that's not gonna happen

Anyone know if Wondershare will root it? I've rooted my tablets with that one click root process before, but not with my DT2 yet. I have my DT2, but not sure why I'd root when there is no development for it yet. btw my DT1 with LP wouldn't root with Wondershare.

dead batteries said:
Anyone know if Wondershare will root it? I've rooted my tablets with that one click root process before, but not with my DT2 yet. I have my DT2, but not sure why I'd root when there is no development for it yet. btw my DT1 with LP wouldn't root with Wondershare.
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The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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graymonkey44 said:
The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys

mech_supernova said:
mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys
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The Link is useless as are the Moto chat employees.
They left me realizing the unlock and root may be WAAAY down the road.
I root for the good apps as Verizon talked me out of my unlimited data. where is titanium????
The hotspot app of theirs (V's) does work out of the box. it just eats Data.... Ive been mad for a year over my decision. I MAY refuse the box in the morning just over Moto's shenanigans on not letting me unlock a $700 phone I paid for direct. FOOLS...

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The only reason I want root is for mobile hotspot.
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+1 to that. Hotspot would be priceless.

mech_supernova said:
mine does that right out of the box, I want root for autohide soft keys
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So you either don't have unlimited data or are paying the extra $30 a month for the feature.
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But
jlemons44 said:
The Link is useless as are the Moto chat employees.
They left me realizing the unlock and root may be WAAAY down the road.
I root for the good apps as Verizon talked me out of my unlimited data. where is titanium????
The hotspot app of theirs (V's) does work out of the box. it just eats Data.... Ive been mad for a year over my decision. I MAY refuse the box in the morning just over Moto's shenanigans on not letting me unlock a $700 phone I paid for direct. FOOLS...
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Again, mobile hotspot doesn't work if you have unlimited data. Since it took about 6 months for the original Turbo to get mofo root, I have a feeling it's gonna take just as long, if ever. They still haven't found a way to write to the system within an image.
It's a shame, they got you good with getting you on a tiered line, and of course they're gonna give free mobile hotspot to tiered users for that exact reason that it eats up data. It gives you a greater chance of going over your data cap, therefore, putting more money into Verizon's greedy little pockets.
I usually average around 75GB a month, so there's no way I will EVER voluntarily give up my unlimited data. They're gonna have to pry it from my cold, dead hands before I ever give up my unlimited data.
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