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Heeeey
This is my first post here.
Here's is my comment and response on LG India page. everything is clear
Seems that LG is going to upgrade all his smartphones to 4.4 together

akahroba said:
Heeeey
This is my first post here.
Here's is my comment and response on LG India page. everything is clear
Seems that LG is going to upgrade all his smartphones to 4.4 together
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Is not very clear.. we know how this is.
But is a very good new.:good:

If I'm not mistaken it's not LG that replied to your comment but some random dude. So it doesn't mean anything. But on the other hand even LG had lied about updates in the past.
So don't get your up too much.

if it's true what he said he didn't mentioned our model, and i don't believe in that story until i see update on my e975 for 4.4

In consideration of all the other kitkat update claims, its either a very ballsy, stupid or genius first XDA post...time will tell.
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jordy1990 said:
If I'm not mistaken it's not LG that replied to your comment but some random dude. So it doesn't mean anything. But on the other hand even LG had lied about updates in the past.
So don't get your up too much.
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as he says we're working I don't think that he's a random guy. and you know, LG admins don not have the right to announce anything until they arre told to do. So they act more conservative. look at the screenshot attached. Some information are company confidential. But the employees are more free to do it. I mean even if he's not true about next month he must be true about the coming of the update.
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if it's true what he said he didn't mentioned our model, and i don't believe in that story until i see update on my e975 for 4.4
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Well, Optimus g is optimus g. my model is e975 too. and this one must be the first to get it. becaause AT&T models should be customized and also requested by AT&T... International ones are the ones supported directly by LG.
nchc said:
In consideration of all the other kitkat update claims, its either a very ballsy, stupid or genius first XDA post...time will tell.
Sent from my LG-E975 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I hope it won't be the first one

One again, a "no-news" and a lack of reliable source...
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the KK update as anyone else but what is provided here is just enough to built hope on some, nothing more.
No reliable source, nothing official, and, IMHO, someone using terms like "dude" on a responce is far from beleivable. I don't know what is "confirmed" by this screen, but it's nothing but hot air!

t1mman said:
One again, a "no-news" and a lack of reliable source...
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the KK update as anyone else but what is provided here is just enough to built hope on some, nothing more.
No reliable source, nothing official, and, IMHO, someone using terms like "dude" on a responce is far from beleivable. I don't know what is "confirmed" by this screen, but it's nothing but hot air!
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We're going to receive it man. believe me. By the way, I can't see any dude in his response

His reply:
"Dude's new all LG smartphones are too gud..."
IMHO, sound juvenile!
And I do HOPE we receive an update, but will all due respect, don't expect anyone to believe you unless you provide solid proof.

t1mman said:
His reply:
"Dude's new all LG smartphones are too gud..."
IMHO, sound juvenile!
And I do HOPE we receive an update, but will all due respect, don't expect anyone to believe you unless you provide solid proof.
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Cannot see the word Dude mentioned in this thread before your posts and in any case, I'm not bothered what words are used to describe hopeful software updates for our devices
Also, belief in something is personal and I'm happy to at least hope for future updates based on this thread
As I'm sure other people are too
LG Optimus G E975
Palm Pre
"Success calls five times a day everyday, but people are too busy to answer the call because they are too busy trying to be successful."

I want to believe that our LGOG will get KitKat next month, but considering that not even G2 has it, I don't think that it's possible.. Maybe 1, 2 months after G2 - if LG decides to respect their customers..

artssa said:
I want to believe that our LGOG will get KitKat next month, but considering that not even G2 has it, I don't think that it's possible.. Maybe 1, 2 months after G2 - if LG decides to respect their customers..
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The G2 already has 4.4 In Korea tho.

World wide, I meant.

Let's study the situation a bit deeper.
reasons we get the update:
1. if we consider the 18 months period of recieving updates, we still have 4 months left. G was released in October, 2012
2. I think except for the initial batch, most of the devices had Jelly bean 4.1.2 while being sold and they still have the same version. So there should be at least an update to a higher version.
3. Physically the device has all the potentials to be upgraded to kitkat and as a previous flagship deserves to get it.
4. the leaked news says that they were testing kitkat on both g pro and g. Now that they are releasing the update for g pro by the end of Q2. There should be an update for g as well since we know that the device doesn't lack anything to run kitkat smoothly.
resons no to get it
1. Why should a company care for a phone from 2012 while there are so many other new phones 2013 onward?
Well I think we have more reasons to get it than not to get it.
to get or not to get. this is the question

and look
Samsung officially announced the models which will get kitkat. Among them you can see Note 2 which was released in September, 2012 and Galaxy S3 which was released in July, 2012!!
So let's keep our fingers crossed :angel:

humm... i think we`re going to be in 4.1 forever :s

i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....

krk2krk said:
i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....
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They give the same answer on the phone and on fb page in Latvia.

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i think this guy forgot to add this screenshot ... in this image you can see the official (As usual) Announcement of 4.4 update to G....
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And where is the announcement in that?
Standard canned response telling nothing at all. They'll forward the request! Dosen't mean LGOG is getting anything as of now.

Heeeeeeey
I didn't forget anything. I have written the question everywhere and I've got the same response as the one you attached. I myself attached one last page.
They are not allowed to announce anything. Actually they don't know anything. They are simply page admins. Whenever they say something it's not true or exact. No one knows exactly when everything will be ready but I believe it will be ready one day not so far from today.

[Q] Lollipop

Anyone have any new info on us getting Lollipop? Info on Google is slim.

My guess is spring or summer time. If we see any leaks then that means it should come a month or two after the leak. Its just a guessing game for samsung

Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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When we start seeing exynos variants getting 5.0 we know we will be getting closer.

I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.

lartomar2002 said:
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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Im pretty sure were gonna get the update. If some other tablets like the tab 4 are gonna get them, the we should get them too. The tab s is samsungs flagship right now i think

lartomar2002 said:
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I don't know about sales figures but I've read quotes from Samsung in various articles stating the the Tab S was a high priority to get an early update. After all, It is still their flagship tablet at the moment.

Rage1ofakind said:
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.

this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great

barth2 said:
Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
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My point being too that was that, Samsung have released the final version of their lollipop update. So in terms of major software tweaks, that's done . If that makes sense lol
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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That's true. But I'd rather have an update that improves my device rather than slowing it down.
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Honestly I think ios users have the opposite problem . Apple keeps trying to update their old devices to the latest ios. The iPad 2 has no business running ios 8. Making ios 8 run on old devices just make them slow and piss people off and then they accuse Apple of making their device slow on purpose to force them to upgrade. Of course if Apple does not support old hardware then it's "abandoning" them.
But yeah no excuse for not having lollipop on the flag ship device already . It's not like Google just dropped lollipop on people out of the blue. you had betas and previews. If cyanogenmod, which as far as I know is not a multi billion dollar conglomerate, can support a bunch of devices then so can Samsung.

Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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I do also have note 3 and tab s. I installed the leaked lolipop for note 3 and I can say that lolipop is worth waiting a few more months. It's nice, clean, works well. Maybe lolipop will resolve some of our problems with tab s. My guess is that will be no lolipop update till begening of march for the tab S because we do jot have any leaked firmware for exynox yet.

I hope it never gets it. Lolly pop ruined my nexus 10, broke WiFi and sent me shopping for a new tablet. Loving my tab s running 4.4.

2 q 2015
according to this article 2 quarter 2015
://technosamigos.com/samsung-android-5-0-lollipop-update/

Hopefully xposed will become working on art before getting lollipop :good:
regards

LTE edition is on Q2, means after April, this is long wait!
By the way, I am waiting for my Note 4 as well.
What to do, just wait wait wait...

Our tablets still work fine, and the rest of the community can catch up, so let's not be so first world about it.

Goog news for Tab S Owners? Reliable source?
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't

Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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http://www.jbgnews.com/2015/01/sams...oid-lollipop-5-0-to-roll-out-soon/021215.html

Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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Hmm "upcoming days or few weeks"
They have absolutely no idea of when it's coming... That's a bs article.

LG G3 dosnt update via LGMobile support Tool

Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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abakarxda said:
Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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This is a BIG mystery and I have combed the various forums around and came to XDA for definitive answers which there appears little. Perhaps because xda is primarily concerned with custom roms, and not incidental stock roms. Personally I thought I would go with the stock rom now, then move to a custom 5.1 rom or later rom when that came out considering how LG seems to be dragging their feet. And to top *that* off it is now April and TMobile has NOT released the update to ALL phones as they have said they would on April 7 on their website.
So what is happening? The various forums are all over the map concerning this. Some are reporting that TMobile representatives are saying that there are problems with the update and that they have *halted* the rollout because of too many problems - and why they were preceding slowly in the first place (I understand that, but I do not understand how it takes three months and not work out all the bugs unless they have just one person working on it part time on the weekends. I'm not a programmer per se and *I* would have been faster). There was one uncomfirmed report of a phone(s) getting too hot.
Clearly the LG G3 page on the TMobile page that says "update available" is incorrect as there is no menu option to do an OTA update in the settings menu, which would indicate that the roll out was halted at some point. So that indicates that there have been problems with the initial update.
Well if that was not bad enough, there is another dreadful post from this forum http://disq.us/8mwajk that has this to say;
O.K. people this is what I was able to find out from T-mobile directly. First the update Lollipop has been release already for the LG G3 (white and black) with some caveats to it.
First the update comes from LG directly instead of Tmobile web servers, tmobile has approve the update and put their flavor on top of the lollipop that LG worked on, but the actual update come from LG servers. So LG is releasing the updates by batches with selected numbers of cell phones at the time ( i am assuming cause they will kill their servers if they do it all at once). Depending of the serial number you have is when you will get the Over The Air update OTA. This can take up to a MONTH yes up to a MONTH for some LG G3 users depending on you serial number, yes its bad cause I am on you same boat I still have not received the update myself so I have to wait for my time (if I am lucky with the lucky serial)or wait up to to a month. Tmobile actually can not do nothing to speed up or put you ahead of the list is the LG that is doing the updates.
Second is that if you really want to have the update to lollipop and you can not just wait any longer cause you will have a heart attack or die for depression. Well you can go to LG site and download a tool for pcs which you can force the update, yes it requires more steps like wiping out your phone and connecting to a PC (not a MAC like myself) but you can have lollipop. Tmobile assure me the LG site lollipop is the same version of lollipop of OTA version so there is nothing to worry about of been a difference version from each site.
Well there it is guys you can either wait, been lucky and get the text to update or go to LG and update it there. Its your choice but pls don't complain about tmobile they are doing their best to help us out if anything it will be LG not tmobile.
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I kind of disagree that this is LG's fault because they have had the update ready for the G3 since January and all the phones in Europe got it near that time. Which places the blame squarely at TMobiles feet. They could have plugged into LG's website last January like what they are appearing to do now. Which begs the question what have they been doing for the past three months exactly?
But really, they have an incentive to delay and drag their feet. Because if you really want the "latest" software, you'll need to buy a new phone with that. And the reason why you will not see 5.1 released anytime soon if at all for the G3. If you see 5.1 on the G4 when it is released and not the G3, that will prove my point outright.
Edit: Another possible reason for the three month delay is that TMobile has turned on VoLTE and added Wi-Fi Calling 2.0. They still could have upgraded to lollipop right away in January then rolled these into a 5.1 update when the bugs were worked out. But this contradicts that the software from both places is the same? I wonder how less of a carbon footprint and wasted energy they could have saved if they would have given everyone better battery life with lollipop back in January?

I cannot update mine as well. I am using the black LG G3 which I won from T Mobile's raffle.
When I try to upgrade it, it just says "No upgrade items to fix" or "No upgrade policy"
I do not know what to do with this. I want to update this badly.

I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th

amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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This also is what happened with the LG G2. They upgraded white LG G2's after every one else. Which would fit in that they are doing it by "serial number batches." Because that would be only thing different between white and black units.
Unless there is a special magical "white powder" we did not know about! :laugh:

amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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Who did you ask?

jailbreakkid23 said:
Who did you ask?
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Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus

amlaria said:
Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus
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Do you have a white one

jailbreakkid23 said:
Do you have a white one
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Yes D851SW

amlaria said:
Yes D851SW
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This is so sad I never thought lg was racist ?

I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
The LG G3 will be receiving the long awaited 5.0.1 software update in waves. This means that all devices will be getting the update, but not all at once. Because of this, please be patient if you haven't received the update yet! If you just can't wait any longer, there are instructions to manually download the update via PC in the software update document linked in the title.
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Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.

nodekeeper said:
I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.
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Can i have a link to that page please

jailbreakkid23 said:
Can i have a link to that page please
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go here: support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/lg-g3/places?filterID=all~objecttype~space
click "show details"

[Q] when not3 neo duos get lollipop update stok or custom?

there are any lollipop rom for note 3 neo duos
Samsung don't confirm any update yet for this device and we still on android 4.3
I can't find any custom rom ?!!!!!!!
Anyone can help me to find custom rom .... Thanks :angel:

There is very few interest in the N3N, there is even less interest in the Duos version. I think your only bet is that Sammy releases the Lollipop sometime this summer. There were rumors that the Lollipop is in testing phase and will be released in June. Knowing Samsung, that would probably mean sometime in August

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There is very few interest in the N3N, there is even less interest in the Duos version. I think your only bet is that Sammy releases the Lollipop sometime this summer. There were rumors that the Lollipop is in testing phase and will be released in June. Knowing Samsung, that would probably mean sometime in August
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I agree with that
I've contacted samsung live chat agent and he told me that he is not sure if N3N would get the lollipop update or not
Not every heard/seen should be believed

legoboy said:
I agree with that
I've contacted samsung live chat agent and he told me that he is not sure if N3N would get the lollipop update or not
Not every heard/seen should be believed
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To be fair, the person who confirmed the L update was from Samsung France (as far as I remember), so it should be real. But we have seen other manufacturers confirming updates and then dropping them because "it wasn't feasible" (HTC did that for the original One)

RecklessTurtle said:
To be fair, the person who confirmed the L update was from Samsung France (as far as I remember), so it should be real. But we have seen other manufacturers confirming updates and then dropping them because "it wasn't feasible" (HTC did that for the original One)
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Many websites said different times such as
April-May
June-July
Q2 2015 (April-June-July)
Which of them should be believed??
And I became hopeless
And I have known that Samsung France have said that N3N would get the lollipop update and that Samsung Netherlands confirmed that.
So why did it take so long??

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So why did it take so long??
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Because updates generate no revenue for the manufacturers, except Apple, because they manage to add "Value added services" to their SW updates, for instance Apple Pay, Apple Music etc. They add stuff that the user would like to pay extra. In case of Samsung, all services they tried failed miserably. Therefore, why would they spend the effort to deliver an update that'd only increase the lifespan of a product that they already sold? You might say "customer satisfaction" but let's be honest, SW updates is never the first priority of any customer. I bet 99% of Android users don't even know at which version they are (KK, JB, L)...

RecklessTurtle said:
Because updates generate no revenue for the manufacturers, except Apple, because they manage to add "Value added services" to their SW updates, for instance Apple Pay, Apple Music etc. They add stuff that the user would like to pay extra. In case of Samsung, all services they tried failed miserably. Therefore, why would they spend the effort to deliver an update that'd only increase the lifespan of a product that they already sold? You might say "customer satisfaction" but let's be honest, SW updates is never the first priority of any customer. I bet 99% of Android users don't even know at which version they are (KK, JB, L)...
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I agree ☺
And thanks for your information.

Welcome to Marshmallow

Looks like we are one step closer to marshmallow. The T-Mobile website now shows the phone in T-Mobile testing phase.
Update: Download some marshmallows now.

Taking them way too long. Verizon already is pushing out Marshmallow for the Note. They are usually the last carrier. I'm disappointed with development from this phone.

you sure about that? to me it still shows that it is under manufacturer development

Maybe we'll see it in April

Telus may rollout Marshmallow at March 30th for s6 edge. what about t-mobile

I believe tmobile has always been the slowest in releasing updates. ..don't be surprised either April or May timeframe

I couldn't help it. I used JUMP to get the S7 Edge. In Reality it's exactly what I wanted the S6 Edge to be. I really have zero complaints about the S6 Edge. I'll miss seeing how it handles marshmallow. I think it'll fit it well.

Can't blame you. ..I'm thinking of upgrading myself. ..this update is taking to long

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Looks like we are one step closer to marshmallow. The T-Mobile website now shows the phone in T-Mobile testing phase.
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Actually if you click on the phone it shows that it's still in manufacturer development.
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Well, Sprint just beat TMobile to marshmallow.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...eir-android-marshmallow-over-the-air-updates/
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dnanj said:
Well, Sprint just beat TMobile to marshmallow.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...eir-android-marshmallow-over-the-air-updates/
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It is kind of hilarious we are now reading Android N developer preview stuff, seeing lowly Sprint rolling out updates to M and we are reading that it's still in a development phase as far as TMobile goes. I not one that thinks M is going to be that great we absolutely need to have it Android. I'm more disappointed I have been a long time Tmobile customer, and going from my first Android, my beloved Nexus One that was put at by Google at the time, to switching over to Samsung and basically being the good little follower/updater of every TOL device they put out prior to my current S6Edge which I obtained on the first day of availability last April 2015 and my wifes Note5 I recently updated her to from her Note 3. TMobile used to be known as the leader of the pack supporting their USA customer base.
Lastly, in the past up thru the latest 5.1.1 updates, it was really easy to flash an International version, use a Kerenel that played happy with TMobile hardware, and occasionally requiring an additional flash of a file to fix call audio issues and we all were golden. I'm guessing that once a TMobile supported Android M Bootloader is available, we can then happily start flashing away the many International Android M ROMs already being posted on those Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 Edge sites.
I could be wrong on that, but I really thing once we have a bootloader posted we can all go back to complaining about this or that specific ROM issues, instead of pounding the web sites for Tmobile to get it's act in gear. Really....Sprint ahead of Tmobile....scratching my head

Sprint rolls out their updates first when business is mediocre.

Still waiting for M. This is why I dont buy Tmo S7.

Im start hate samsung, so many versions for the same cellphone or watch, I never want say this but with iphone dont happen thinks like that..

Well, finally it's showing on T-Mobile's page that it is in testing phase.
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There's a petition gng around to release MM for all S6/S6 edge devices so maybe that help...
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Here's the petition on Samsung's software update policy for those who are tired of it. I request you all to please sign it, so we can raise our voice. After signing, don't forget to SHARE it.
Samsung Mobile : Software update policy of Shamesung - Sign the Petition!
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-mo...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=whatsapp
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I know what you mean fabioplata, that's why I went to nexus 6p. Let me tell you that the grass is most definitely greener on this side.
And yes Alex9090 seems like I made a mistake when I started this thread, maybe my excitement got to me. But its in T-Mobile Testing phase now.
KingP1n I don't see Samsung changing their ways anytime soon. They are trying to use touchwiz in a way to make money from it. But the end result is always the same it takes too many resources away from the base OS and the whole experience feels like riding on the short bus.

This is my last Sammie phone anyway... I've been pretty disappointed in it and should have waited to buy it - always out to be the early adopter.. i need to knock that crap off..
Having to wait for hell to freeze over before getting the update just hammers it all home...

The worst part is that this will most likely be the last update this phone will get.
Imagine next year we will be where S5 owners are now last to get if ever get Android N

The worst part is that this will most likely be the last update this phone will get.
Imagine next year we will be where S5 owners are now last to get if ever get Android N.