I have an untouched, unbranded Defy on 2.21 which works fine until I connect it to a usb lead for charging whereupon the touch screen stops responding and usually remains like this for about 30 seconds after I have unplugged the usb cable.
Until this morning when I had had it connected overnight to a cradle by the bed and could not turn the alarm off. I ended up pulling the battery, but at least I was awake by then, I suppose.
My question is: is this a common problem, and if so is there a cure?
And a supplementary one: would a custom ROM, CM7 or Miui, solve the problem?
Any help greatfully received!
my defy behaves exactly the oposite way. When connecting with USB cable I am able to ude the phone properly, everything works fine all applications' responsiveness are great. However, when charging the battery using the power cable, the phone starting hanging on every application. Everything starts getting slow and a simple touch takes 5 or 6 seconds to retrieve any action from the phone.
I dont know if this a common behavior for the defy neither if has any fix for that, i got used to it so i always charge my phone when it is off.
I have this issue too, but a little different. When I use a different charger than the original one, the screen is stuck, but I think, it is charging. When I use the standard charger, it works perfektly. I can't explain why.
By the way: I'm using CM7 with the nightly from yesterday
i am also using CM7, but the beta 6 version. I will try this test. I have two different charges, one original and another not, i will see if it behaves the same way you are saying. i will post my results soon.
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I have this issue too, but a little different. When I use a different charger than the original one, the screen is stuck, but I think, it is charging. When I use the standard charger, it works perfektly. I can't explain why.
By the way: I'm using CM7 with the nightly from yesterday
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same here..
Possibility of charger voltages rating differences giving out the output here I guess.
The original charger has been calibrated with just enough voltages/current to supply the phone during charging whilst the non-original charger doesn't have the exact voltage/current needed by the phone during charging thus giving the phone all sort of problems. One may see the non-original charger has label the right rating as per the original label but that doesn't give any warranty it work exactly like the original charger.
I recomend to use only original charger to avoid any damages may occur to the phone.
If one using original charger and still having phone behaving strangely. It may be caused by the phone itself(hardware issue) or the original charger(manufacturing defect) which by this mean you're one of the unlucky owner.... get a replacement ASAP..
I'm not sure about running firmware as such Eclair, Froyo or custom rom would do anything about charging side effect here.
I thought, that an intelligent power management only takes as much current as it needs. My adapter has 2 outputs (max 500mA, max 1000mA). I would expect the phone to work with any of these. When I plug in my navigation unit it works perfectly.
I'll take the adapter with me and try it with the original Defy of a friend. If it works with his phone its a software issue if not I'll have to look out for an alternative charging my phone in the car.
i deeply tested last night, charging with the original charges let the phone 100% useable without any lags while the usb charger kept me having lags and keeping the phone without any good responsiveness. No more usb chargers anymore
same here, original charger (btw, that is ALSO a USB charger...) works, but aftermarket charger, screen no (or little) response.
when connect to pc, works so-so.
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I thought, that an intelligent power management only takes as much current as it needs. My adapter has 2 outputs (max 500mA, max 1000mA). I would expect the phone to work with any of these. When I plug in my navigation unit it works perfectly.
I'll take the adapter with me and try it with the original Defy of a friend. If it works with his phone its a software issue if not I'll have to look out for an alternative charging my phone in the car.
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don't expect every gadgets will work on any universal charger. The exact rating counts on a delicate devices specially on touch screen product. Grounding too must be equally the same from the charger to the phone which would result non side effect on using while charger is connected. Avoid using local based charger if possible as it could save your phone from damaging. Buy original if you really need it.
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this happen to me too sometimes, but not all the time
Hi,
So, I'm one of the 'few' users which the USB connector on my nexus became loose to the point where doesn't charge anymore. One of the connectors inside broke (shorter then the others), I tried to fix another connector (successfully) but I can't do much about the broken one.
With this I'm left with 3 alternatives.
Send to RMA, logical, but would take at least two months since I'd have to send it to UK (was bought there) and I don't wanna be that long without it.
Order a USB connector and mount it myself. I'm actually considering this... But moving on...
Order a wireless charger, this seems the most fast option to get it charging. Now choosing this option leaves me with some questions. Considering that the official wireless charger is way more expensive than those QI ones, I checked the specifications and seems like the mA/output between QI chargers and official wireless is the same, so, do they take the same amount of time charging? Will I have any issues with another brand (considering it should work on nexus) ? Any big pratical differences between official / other brands if the technical specifications are the same?
Someone care to shed a light on this matter?
Thank you so much in advance
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
MidnightDevil said:
Hi,
So, I'm one of the 'few' users which the USB connector on my nexus became loose to the point where doesn't charge anymore. One of the connectors inside broke (shorter then the others), I tried to fix another connector (successfully) but I can't do much about the broken one.
With this I'm left with 3 alternatives.
Send to RMA, logical, but would take at least two months since I'd have to send it to UK (was bought there) and I don't wanna be that long without it.
Order a USB connector and mount it myself. I'm actually considering this... But moving on...
Order a wireless charger, this seems the most fast option to get it charging. Now choosing this option leaves me with some questions. Considering that the official wireless charger is way more expensive than those QI ones, I checked the specifications and seems like the mA/output between QI chargers and official wireless is the same, so, do they take the same amount of time charging? Will I have any issues with another brand (considering it should work on nexus) ? Any big pratical differences between official / other brands if the technical specifications are the same?
Someone care to shed a light on this matter?
Thank you so much in advance
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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In my experience with third party chargers i only found it to be a bit less well built and slightly more heat
But thats it
In my opinion you should go for it
Because my N7 is also used in my truck for audio, I have a wireless eBay charger in the truck mount and another on my nightstand by the bed. They work great and supposed to.
Thanks guys
There are numerous threads on people's experience with wireless charging, mostly involving the stickers to use, meltdowns with heat, etc. I would like to compile people's experiences.
If you do have experience, please comment on:
1. Did you ever get it to work to your satisfaction? If not, what was not satisfactory about it?
2. How long did it last? Or how long have you had it working?
3. What qi charger do/did you use?
4. If it broke down, what happened and did you ever get it working again?
5. What model of G4 and/or carrier do you have?
Also, there's a quick poll associated in this thread.
Working sense late June. Using this one but I got it before the 2.0 upgrade. NeWisdom https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YU08SOG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_fxViwbN05MBDA
scottjal said:
Working sense late June. Using this one but I got it before the 2.0 upgrade. NeWisdom https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YU08SOG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_fxViwbN05MBDA
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What qi charger do you use?
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What qi charger do you use?
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This one, it was basically the cheapest one I could find June 2014. Once the phone is charged you can see the light cycle on and off just maintaining 100%. Works fine for a bunch of devices and I don't notice if it's slow as it has 8 hours to charge when I sleep.
CHOE UPGRADED Qi Wireless Charger Charging Pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DRBFMZM/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_WNViwbW7EJTDK
I purchased this plastic replacement back that came with a qi sticker. I used it mainly with this CHOE 3 coil charger, but also tried it on this Yootech one, and this one as well. On all three chargers, the phone got super hot while charging. So much so that at one point my phone even froze up and I had to pull the battery. It may have been the qi sticker that came with the back I bought, but I stopped wireless charging after about a week, because I just didn't like how hot it got.
I'm thinking of picking up another qi sticker, but just can't decide which one is the best.
I'm using the official LG qi charger and the quickcircle cover with qi built in. All working but i find plugging in faster so basically just end up using that instead..
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I purchased this plastic replacement back that came with a qi sticker. I used it mainly with this CHOE 3 coil charger, but also tried it on this Yootech one, and this one as well. On all three chargers, the phone got super hot while charging. So much so that at one point my phone even froze up and I had to pull the battery. It may have been the qi sticker that came with the back I bought, but I stopped wireless charging after about a week, because I just didn't like how hot it got.
I'm thinking of picking up another qi sticker, but just can't decide which one is the best.
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I've found that exact placement on the charger can affect the charging temperature dramatically. I think if the sticker is a little ways off from the center of the qi charger (wherever that is, not sure how that is determined on the 3 coil), it heats up a lot more.
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I've found that exact placement on the charger can affect the charging temperature dramatically. I think if the sticker is a little ways off from the center of the qi charger (wherever that is, not sure how that is determined on the 3 coil), it heats up a lot more.
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Yeah I tried my best to make sure it was right in the center, but it seems no matter where I placed it it would get hot. Plus what's the benefit of having a 3 coil charger if I have to place it in exactly the right spot? I think there is definitely something wrong with the qi sticker I'm using. If not, many others would be having similar issues. I'm using fairly widely used chargers.
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I never felt comfortable using the Qi charging after hearing the noise my phone made when I set it on the charger. I have multiple brands of chargers and all produce the same noise from the phone's speakers (youtube link below). I've tried with cases and without cases on all my chargers.
Here are my qi chargers:
1. Itian Qi Standard Wireless Charger
2. Axiong Qi Wireless 3-Coils Stand Charging Pad Stand Dock Wireless Charger for Qi Phones
3. Tmvel T2 Wireless Charger Charging Mount Cradle Stand for all Qi Phones, with Wide Charging Area for LG G3, Nexus 5, Nexus 4,Nokia Lumia 920, MOTO Dro
4. Tmvel Qi Wireless Car Charger Dock for Qi-Enabled Devices
5. Nillkin Energy Stone For Nokia Lumia 920 1520 Lg Google Nexus 4 5 LG G2 HTC 8x DNA Simple Fashion Wireless Qi Power Charger Charging Pad + Leevin® NF
6. PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charging Pad Station for All Qi Standard Compatible Devices Including Samsung, iPhone, Nokia, Google, Nexus, LG,
7. Ruix Wireless Charger -Qi Enabled Charger - White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV4rHIBdM5M
So an impressive 50% of folks on the poll at this time have had it crap out.
Wonder if the V10 will have this issue too? I'd consider switching to that, but the G4 is big enough already for me.
1. Works as expected
2. Have it for a week now
3. PowerBot
4. n/a
I'm using the official LG G4 CFR-100 cover btw...
After reading about wireless charging, maybe it's the reason why the feature was removed from phones released in my country. We got a dual sim variant where wireless charging was removed totally.
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After reading about wireless charging, maybe it's the reason why the feature was removed from phones released in my country. We got a dual sim variant where wireless charging was removed totally.
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Wireless charging was removed from dual sims because the circuitry for wireless charging is replaced by that of the second sim.
waylo said:
There are numerous threads on people's experience with wireless charging, mostly involving the stickers to use, meltdowns with heat, etc. I would like to compile people's experiences.
If you do have experience, please comment on:
1. Did you ever get it to work to your satisfaction? If not, what was not satisfactory about it?
2. How long did it last? Or how long have you had it working?
3. What qi charger do/did you use?
4. If it broke down, what happened and did you ever get it working again?
Also, there's a quick poll associated in this thread.
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1. Yes, it worked perfectly.
2. I only use the wireless charger at work and I started noticing issues after the 12th work day. Today is the 13th day and it is no longer working at all. When I power off the device and stick it on the charger, the charging light briefly indicates it's charging and powers the device on and then goes back to the idle state.
3. Using this back: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZEY13SU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage and this charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LFVPRMO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
4. Came to XDA see if it's common and it looks like it is I'll try to see what happens after contacting LG support. I doubt there's much T-Mobile can do if I don't have any type of insurance or anything with them.
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1. Yes, it worked perfectly.
2. I only use the wireless charger at work and I started noticing issues after the 12th work day. Today is the 13th day and it is no longer working at all. When I power off the device and stick it on the charger, the charging light briefly indicates it's charging and powers the device on and then goes back to the idle state.
3. Using this back: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZEY13SU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage and this charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LFVPRMO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
4. Came to XDA see if it's common and it looks like it is I'll try to see what happens after contacting LG support. I doubt there's much T-Mobile can do if I don't have any type of insurance or anything with them.
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The T-Mobile store can put in for a warranty exchange, if you initially bought it with them. But then you get a refurb. It's $20. Alternatively, you could send it in for a factory warranty, but it'll be out for several weeks. And then after you get it back, the wireless charging will break down after a week or two. Ridiculous, right?
I think it's endemic with our H811 model. I wish this could be as big as Antennaegate, forcing LG to admit their poor design+engineering, but there aren't enough users to raise a stir.
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The T-Mobile store can put in for a warranty exchange, if you initially bought it with them. But then you get a refurb. It's $20. Alternatively, you could send it in for a factory warranty, but it'll be out for several weeks. And then after you get it back, the wireless charging will break down after a week or two. Ridiculous, right?
I think it's endemic with our H811 model. I wish this could be as big as Antennaegate, forcing LG to admit their poor design+engineering, but there aren't enough users to raise a stir.
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I just had an online chat session with LG Support and since they only officially brand their Qi case for Verizon phones they are telling me that the T-Mobile model is not compatible with wireless charging and there's nothing they can do. I got this phone off CL so going to T-Mobile is going to be difficult. I purchased the LG G4 back on release day day but returned it so I was going to use that receipt with LG Support but it looks like that's a dead end.
Another question you should ask in this thread is which model people are using since this is a general G4 forum and not carrier specific. It does look like this happens with Verizon phones too though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/help/wireless-charging-stopped-t3226231
Thankfully the battery life is good enough on this phone where I can probably live without the wireless charging at work. To be honest It was more of a must have when I had the S6 since there was no way I could make it through the workday without leaving it on the charger.
Wow, really? The function that works (at least initially) because all the hardware is there, on T-Mob, is "not supported?" That sounds like LG support has their heads up their butts, just like the QA department on the wifi charging.
I'll add the question of what version G4 do you have on the questionnaire. Can't edit the poll anymore though I wish I could.
1. Locked up during the night, multiple times a week.
2. Randomly started working perfectly for 3 months. Replaced phone. Worked for about 1.5 months. Now stops charging and locks up during the night again.
3. Nokia puck + Samsung + several chinese ebay units
4. Absolutely no idea why it magically fixed itself and now magically broken.
5. Verizon G4
There are numerous threads on people's experience with wireless charging, mostly involving the stickers to use, meltdowns with heat, etc. I would like to compile people's experiences.
If you do have experience, please comment on:
1. Did you ever get it to work to your satisfaction? If not, what was not satisfactory about it?
Yes, but not for more than a couple weeks at a time.
2. How long did it last? Or how long have you had it working?
About 2 weeks, sent in for RMA, came back not fixed, sent back, worked for a little over a week, stopped today.
3. What qi charger do/did you use?
LG Quick Circle case purchased from Verizon, 2 tylt vus, one samsung puck.
4. If it broke down, what happened and did you ever get it working again?
No idea what caused it to stop working -- today it stopped somewhere between work and home.
First time, mailing it in twice helped.
5. What model of G4 and/or carrier do you have?
Verizon
Also, there's a quick poll associated in this thread.
Using a Yootech sticker with a Yootech puck. Both work well. I originally had a sticker from the Fone company...the colorful one in blue and green, iirc. The wireless charging worked but the NFC was unusable with it. (not that I myself use nfc
Hi guys
I m searching for a Magnetic type c Cable that can support the quick charge 3.0. The EU version of the LG G6 not have the wireless charge so I would have a magnetic Cable to use a bamboo stand that I have bought.
I have see this cable:
https://m.banggood.com/Baseus-Magne...179304&utm_content=989&p=K41513885236201411XJ
I had see this cable from an Italian YouTuber that have test it with a special gadget.
He explains that this cable can support up to 4Ampere.
Someone can suggest me pls? If you use some cable tell me what do you use and if it s possible post the link
This is the YouTube video, it is in Italian but you can understand the functionality watching the video too.
Just one reminder, rumor has it that quick charge degrades battery life. So it would be better to buy a normal magnetic cable like this maybe and then buy a "fast" one, to use only when it's really needed. Just saying.
The one I linked you is definitely slow, using the quick charger that came with my G6 needs 1 hour to charge it from 60%.
Melissakis said:
Just one reminder, rumor has it that quick charge degrades battery life. So it would be better to buy a normal magnetic cable like this maybe and then buy a "fast" one, to use only when it's really needed. Just saying.
The one I linked you is definitely slow, using the quick charger that came with my G6 needs 1 hour to charge it from 60%.
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the Quick charge is given by the transformer, that of the LG G6 should be 3.0. (although some say it is 2.0).the cable is only what transmits energy in the form of an electric current.having a cable that supports a high current causes your device to be protected moreover. A type c cable also carries a signal that tries to communicate to the transformer the quantity of voltage necessary for charging. if this does not work there is a risk that the device will explode. So first rule to have a reliable cable and that supports a high amperage.
About the quick charge instead, you have read old information about quick charge 1.0 on a device that not support it. Infact now smartphone that support quick charge have a chip that is made by qualcomm to support this technology. You can't use a quick charge charger to charge (sorry xD) a smartphone that not support it. If you do, you could damage your device.
Nowadays quick charge 3.0 is the best charging method that we have for devices that supports it. but the rule remains the same: a good cable for a good charger
PS: I'm studying electronic engineering
PS: sorry for my bad English! If you have questions ask me pls. I will try to repeat it
All these are correct,I do not use the official charger anyway, but there is still a debate however quick charge degrades battery life or not.
I recently found a USB C 18W-supported magnetic cable that is Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 compatible and at the same time is capable of fast data transmission. The brand is TOPK (you can check at thei website topk dot com). I own quite a few other accessories from them and I can say that they are reliable. Cables are nylon braided and plug heads are 3d aluminum so they are generally stretch and rust resistant.
The other one I saw was Lexuma XMAG.
They are the first of their class. (I am no way related to these brands, just my personal experience)
Lexuma XMAG. looks like a better quality
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Lexuma XMAG. looks like a better quality
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Yeah cause it's more expensive. Lol. I happen to have TOPK cables cause they currently have flagship stores in my location. They may be cheaper but the cables look premium. I use them oftentimes while playing ML with my Poco F1 so they are always prone to stretch sometimes greater than 90 degrees. Looks like nylon braiding does its job well.
Maybe, I will have a look at the TOPK, maybe yes the price makes it appear better.
The design thou is circular and not oblongated like type C plug. Im not sure if I liked it more but the good thing is it's not just reversible but also rotatable; in perfect fit whatever orientation...