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Hi,
I want to buy the htc one m8 from the usa (verizon, at&t, sprint, t-mobile etc...)
I'm from europe and in my country lte will be available in 1800 and 2600 (band 3 and 7)
I've got comfused from all of the specs, so which variant htc support band 3 and/or 7?
Thanks for your help
Don't buy a USA phone to use in Europe they're different for a reason. The Asia version is more likely to be compatible with European bands.
Certainly not Verizon or Sprint!
iii2 said:
Hi,
I want to buy the htc one m8 from the usa (verizon, at&t, sprint, t-mobile etc...)
I'm from europe and in my country lte will be available in 1800 and 2600 (band 3 and 7)
I've got comfused from all of the specs, so which variant htc support band 3 and/or 7?
Thanks for your help
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To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
EddyOS said:
To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
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I would but it just don't worth the money, both europe and asia version are way more expensive, so i prefer to go with a cheaper device, 32gb and withouht lte. But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
iii2 said:
I would but it just don't worth the money, both europe and asia version are way more expensive, so i prefer to go with a cheaper device, 32gb and withouht lte. But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
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Having a warranty and full support from HTC is more than worth the money IMO
I'm from Israel, we don't have an offical HTC in here so it doesn't change a lot. I will probably also install roms so the warranry isn't that usefull :/
EddyOS said:
To be 100% sure of compatibility, buy the EU handset if you're in the EU - it makes sense
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Agree. Plus, not sure if the OP intends to root or not. But left stock, the AT&T version in particular has critical functions disabled (WiFi hotspot); and you will also typically not receive OTA updates outside the US. I'd stay away from buying the AT&T variant for use in other countries, unless you have a definitive reason to pick that variant.
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But still, at least one usa network should support band 3 and 7, anyone know?
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Why would you assume that? According to the following Wiki, those bands are not supported in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
According to gsm arena, the AT&T and Verizon variants support LTE 1800 and 2600 MHz (bands 3 and 7, respectively); probably for international roaming purposes. But I'd still recommend buying the Euro or Asian version over either of these. And gsm arena is not always 100% accurate, so I'd take it with a grain or salt and research more before making any decision:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
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Agree. Plus, not sure if the OP intends to root or not. But left stock, the AT&T version in particular has critical functions disabled (WiFi hotspot); and you will also typically not receive OTA updates outside the US. I'd stay away from buying the AT&T variant for use in other countries, unless you have a definitive reason to pick that variant.
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Why would you assume that? According to the following Wiki, those bands are not supported in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
According to gsm arena, the AT&T and Verizon variants support LTE 1800 and 2600 MHz (bands 3 and 7, respectively); probably for international roaming purposes. But I'd still recommend buying the Euro or Asian version over either of these. And gsm arena is not always 100% accurate, so I'd take it with a grain or salt and research more before making any decision:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
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Thanks for your help, but again, I know buying it from europe or asia is the best solution but in that case i wont get 32gb and it will cost me 300$ more, It just doesn't worth it since lte is still not available and it will be only in israel by the end of 2014. And i will install a custom rom, so OTA updates and the carrier bloat doesn't bother me that much.
I also don't think gsmarena is that accurate. accordint to htc website these are the bands:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz
but it looks really untrustable, because in the othe rhand, anandtech site telling somthing else: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review
I just don't know which site is right :silly:
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I also don't think gsmarena is that accurate. accordint to htc website these are the bands:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz
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I don't see a difference between this, and what is posted on GSM Arena (the links I posted).
AWS band is 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4). Its a bit confusing that GSM Arena lists them like they are 2 different bands. But one is used for upload, the other for download. So its not to be confused with 2100 Mhz (band 1) for instance.
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I don't see a difference between this, and what is posted on GSM Arena (the links I posted).
AWS band is 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4). Its a bit confusing that GSM Arena lists them like they are 2 different bands. But one is used for upload, the other for download. So its not to be confused with 2100 Mhz (band 1) for instance.
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I see, but it is diffrenet from the table band in here http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review, like verizon in htc site has the 1800 mhz but in the table on anandtech channel 3 isn't there.
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I see, but it is diffrenet from the table band in here http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review, like verizon in htc site has the 1800 mhz but in the table on anandtech channel 3 isn't there.
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You can probably find a lot of websites that have incorrect specification information on this (and other) phones. That's unfortunately just a fact. I think I've even seen spec errors on HTC's on website for some of their devices. Your best bet is to get as much reliable info as you can. Since HTC's own website agrees with GSM Arena, I'd go with those. But that is just my own conclusion.
In any case, I wouldn't recommend the Verizon (CDMA) version. You don't need CDMA, and it might introduce a whole lot of needless complications. The CDMA versions also don't seem to have quite the developer support that the GSM only versions enjoy.
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You can probably find a lot of websites that have incorrect specification information on this (and other) phones. That's unfortunately just a fact. I think I've even seen spec errors on HTC's on website for some of their devices. Your best bet is to get as much reliable info as you can. Since HTC's own website agrees with GSM Arena, I'd go with those. But that is just my own conclusion.
In any case, I wouldn't recommend the Verizon (CDMA) version. You don't need CDMA, and it might introduce a whole lot of needless complications. The CDMA versions also don't seem to have quite the developer support that the GSM only versions enjoy.
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which devices are cdma?
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which devices are cdma?
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Sprint and Verizon
Hey,
I am also looking for buying the phone form the US although I am not from there (I am from Israel as well but currently in Australia), I was thinking about getting the Unlocked version but I'm not sure which bands does it support, I tried looking on GSMarena, HTC website but couldn't find any info and when I asked the Online chat support they did not know the answer, so do you have any idea which bands the unlocked version supports and do you think there would be a problem with bands if I get it from the US and use it in Israel/Aus?, as the other user said, it is way cheaper in the US, the 32GB in the US is cheaper than the 16GB in AU!
Thanks Heaps
S.Y.Z
Hola folks!
After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend
Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
gsanches said:
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
gsanches said:
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old
And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
gsanches said:
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.
That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps
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I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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salvador1980 said:
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
maheshpatel said:
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
n1234d said:
All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
n1234d said:
Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yes, I will talk to him about 32GB UK model & 1800Mhz LTE band issues.
Here's the seller link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-4615635472.37.CvSgdM&id=41040381216
Let me know what you think of the seller? There are many such sellers selling M8 around that price difference is minor 40-50 RMB & GIFTS
n1234d said:
Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US.
Model ID
xunholyx said:
Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US. View attachment 3076060
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Can't see the first two images
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See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Yes, You're right MID should be 0P6B100
Here's the M8 MID Info http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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MID 0P6B160 belongs to Telus/Rogers [CA] Here we are looking for MID 0P6B100 32GB variant
Now what do you have to say? Did HTC just released 32GB UK Unlocked version?
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
n1234d said:
Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
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Yes, European variant supports 4G - LTE:800/900/1800/2600 MHz
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We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Now I would definitely ask HTC UK customer support. You're based in UK so I am sure you know better than the others.
In Taiwan the new HTC ONE M9 offers the following LTE Bands which sucks in you travel abroad often. I saw this info at the Taiwan Mobile shop in Taipei. If you travel to America and want to use T-Mobile then you will be missing Band 12 and other bands which keep you from having 4G LTE in the US. The new Galaxy S6 Edge is the better choice if you are a frequent traveler and want wider 4G LTE Band coverage.
LTE FDD 01,03,05,07,08,20,29
LTE TDD 38,40,41
Asian LTE bands have never matched American and vice versa..
P.S. It was even worse with M7 and M8 though..
Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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I posted a clear picture of an unlocked version from Taiwan Mobile's Computer.
desiregeek said:
In Taiwan the new HTC ONE M9 offers the following LTE Bands which sucks in you travel abroad often. I saw this info at the Taiwan Mobile shop in Taipei. If you travel to America and want to use T-Mobile then you will be missing Band 12 and other bands which keep you from having 4G LTE in the US. The new Galaxy S6 Edge is the better choice if you are a frequent traveler and want wider 4G LTE Band coverage.
LTE FDD 01,03,05,07,08,20,29
LTE TDD 38,40,41
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The bands are for SEA (south-east asia) version. Details at http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9/
M8 did not support that many bands; so they have different models for different countries.
For those who travel around Asia including China and possibly Europe, the 4G coverage is pretty good. :victory:
List of supported LTE bands for each country can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Overseas Electronics made an unboxing video of a TW version. I have captured the back of the box. I see only 700/900/1800 Mhz LTE support.
But anywhere else FDD：1、3、5、7、8、20、28 頻段.
Can anyone confirm there is only one Asian unlocked version?
estore . htc. com /tw/buy/zh-TW/shop/allCategories/mobile/htc-one-m9
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Mike Lim said:
The bands are for SEA (south-east asia) version. Details at http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9/
M8 did not support that many bands; so they have different models for different countries.
For those who travel around Asia including China and possibly Europe, the 4G coverage is pretty good. :victory:
List of supported LTE bands for each country can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Total of 10 Bands for the HTC ONE M9 and a total of 19 for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. If one does not travel too often this is not much of a concern but if one travels often and especially between Asia and America then the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge will have the edge over the HTC One M9 because one can use it on T-Mobile's 4G LTE Network in America and get 4G LTE service in Asia as well where this is not possible with the HTC One M9. Not sure why HTC decided to do this. They always manage to find a way to lose a sale.
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Total of 10 Bands for the HTC ONE M9 and a total of 19 for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. If one does not travel too often this is not much of a concern but if one travels often and especially between Asia and America then the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge will have the edge over the HTC One M9 because one can use it on T-Mobile's 4G LTE Network in America and get 4G LTE service in Asia as well where this is not possible with the HTC One M9. Not sure why HTC decided to do this. They always manage to find a way to lose a sale.
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Believe the 4G bands are provided by SnapDragon chip. There could be other models.
Any idea what is the exact Samsung model that supports 19 bands?
There seems to be many models around as per http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge-7079.php
SM-G9250 (China, HK), SM-G925A (AT&T), SM-G925F (Global), SM-G925FQ (Turkey), SM-G925I (LATAM, Singapore, India, Australia), SM-G925K (Korea), SM-G925L, SM-G925S (Korea), SM-G925T (T-Mobile).
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Believe the 4G bands are provided by SnapDragon chip. There could be other models.
Any idea what is the exact Samsung model that supports 19 bands?
There seems to be many models around as per http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge-7079.php
SM-G9250 (China, HK), SM-G925A (AT&T), SM-G925F (Global), SM-G925FQ (Turkey), SM-G925I (LATAM, Singapore, India, Australia), SM-G925K (Korea), SM-G925L, SM-G925S (Korea), SM-G925T (T-Mobile).
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The Galaxy S6 Edge in Taiwan. This picture was taken from the computer of Taiwan Mobile here in Taiwan.
I think the specs are similar to the ones in Hong Kong by Smartone. See link below and click on specs.
http://www.smartone.com/en/mobile_and_price_plans/handsets/samsung/galaxy-s6-edge/2850/#!price-plan
Guess those who travel between Asia and US can try the unlocked developer edition.
From http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer/
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
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Guess those who travel between Asia and US can try the unlocked developer edition.
From http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer/
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Those bands actually sick unless you live in America. For those that travel the important bands are still missing for 4G LTE
Xiaomi have released Redmi Note 5 in Taiwan with more LTE band support than global variant.
TW Specs from : http://www.mi.com/tw/redmi-note-5/specs/
Taiwan model:
Code:
4G:FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Global model:
Code:
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Many markets worldwide apart from Taiwan make use of the extra B28 (700Mhz) - Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Panama, Japan, France. There are probably more I have left out. Its basically our equivalent of B20 which gives us better rural coverage and better building penetration.
I have looked everywhere including Aliexpress and they aren't selling this model. Can anyone find it anywhere other than Xiaomi Taiwan site?
I have read:
This Band 28(700Mhz) is scheduled to begin in 2020 for mobile (5G broadband services)
That might be true in your country, its been in other places for years. Since 2014 in Australia. I think its delayed in Europe due to terrestrial TV using that frequency, ours was switched off years ago.
ok,thanks for the info
It is also used in Nigeria by a network known as Glo. LTE band 28(700) travels very far and has better in-building penetration than most LTE bands.
By the way, I've also checked Aliexpress for the variant of redmi note 5 that support band 28, and it's not available yet. I don't think I can wait for it any longer. I'll have to settle for the Global variant.
where did you get the band list for the Global version from? pdadb so far has always been accurate on the supported bands and it lists Band 28 as included for the Global version:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_64gb_meg7s___xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
@celoxocis Seems to differ from this one https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5 Doesn't list B28
@lukesan
kimovil has been wrong in the past.
I used to import US version phones and always used pdadb for proper (required) bands. Where all other sites would list missing bands pdadb would list all complete bands. So I see pdadb as trustworthy and professional sites who check the phones specifications for accuracy.
@celoxocis https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9120#hong-kong,*,* another one that doesn't show B28 BUT the Taiwan version shows B28
This is all getting confusing. On all Aliexpress sellers I don't see B28, only the very much used B20 in Europe. Looking for the Taiwan version on Aliexpress seems to not show anything.
@lukesan
gsmarena never lists proper bands. it misses half the bands of my axon 7 us version (pdadb lists the proper bands). never go to gsmarena to check for bands. aliexpress only sells Chinese versions with global ROM anyway. don't go there or they will trick you to buy one of those.
I contacted aliexpress sellers that are selling global model, they said no B28. So far only place I have found is a eBay seller from Taiwan but its overpriced so not buying yet: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiaomi-Red...hash=item1cac64e701:m:mUYSnnhRa49uuBF-7QnmBSw
Did anyone find a place? I am still looking around for this.
Not sure if it will be any help for you, but I just bought this one off of Amazon.ca - https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Unlocked-Global-Version-4-64GB/dp/B07D82MTZL/ - and it has band 28.
I bought a couple of this guy from Taiwan ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/123151713017 so I can confirm that the seller is good. Good communication answered all my questions, and he packaged everything securely inside a DHL box. The boxes inside were still shrink wrapped as I expect they would come from Xiaomi.
It may be a bit overpriced though as said here for some reason nobody else is putting the Taiwanese version up.
Aqq123 said:
FYI the list price for that version in Taiwan is TWD 8,000, or about AUD 355, so the mark-up is about 23%.
(438/355-1)*100 ~= 23.3803
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This Amazon.ca listing has the RN5 with Band 28. Both resellers (Maple Mountain Imports and JP Mobiles CA) sell the same version of the phone, and fulfilment is by Amazon. I am not sure how useful this is to anyone not in Canada, but I figured I'd mention it here for anyone who is still looking for some place besides eBay. I received mine today (2 day shipping) and the phone is new in shrinkwrap, etc.
I also purchased one from the Ebay seller as mentioned by tya99. I will also add that it was packed as described and arrived in my hand in Australia in only two days from ordering. Very happy with it.
In France, some operator already use B28, since more than 1 year ago
It is for this same reason (LTE band 28) that I wanted to buy redmi note 5 special edition. Now there is a redmi note 5 with LTE band 28 that nobody knows where to buy it from. It's a pity Xiaomi doesn't care to make it popular.
In Nigeria (the most populus country in Africa) that LTE band 28 is in hot demand used by GSM network called globacom.
I want to get that but might have to settle for global or China redmi note 5 as I have already purchased MiFi modem with LTE band 28.
I'M still in love with my old Samsung note 4 screen and camera, I don't know if redmi note 5 screen will be close to it but at some point I have to upgrade.
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This Taiwanese version has also been released in Mexico, and possibly in Chile and Bolivia. I bought mine in Mercadolivre (auction-site-turned-marketplace just like eBay), from someone who imported it from Mexico to Brazil. If you have some sort of communication channel to a seller, you can ask them directly for the model number printed on the back side of the box: the regular "Global" model is model M1803E7SG, while the Taiwanese/Mexican model with B28 support is M1803E7SH.