I have been using XBMC on my FTV that is hardwired and also have a FireTV Stick connected to 5Ghz band on my router. I was playing a 720p MKV of Interstellar. It would cause the FTV to buffer especially at the scene around 3 minutes where the cornfields are shaking from the winds.
I then play the same file wirelessly on the FireStick and it has no problems playing this same scene.
Is the video processor on the stick better than regular FTV?
I think something is wrong with your fire tv or connection.. I just watch interstellar 1080p 15 gig mkv file without any buffering issues on a wired line.
try switching to wifi.
The fire stick is much much less powerful in video and processor speed.
There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.
Speed tests have consistently showed 5ghz to be faster than wired on my network, but I keep it wired because it's generally stronger with less interference, plus my speeds are more than fast enough for 1080p.
I'd try different Ethernet cables (simplest solution first.) I did that and found a discrepancy of over 20 Mbps.
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There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.
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OMG Thanks! I didn't every think to try the wireless on my FTV. This fixed the buffering on Intersellar MKV I was getting when I was hardwired.
That is so weird that the hardwired connection is slower than wireless?
How did you find out about FTV being slower hard wired?
yazyazoo said:
OMG Thanks! I didn't every think to try the wireless on my FTV. This fixed the buffering on Intersellar MKV I was getting when I was hardwired.
That is so weird that the hardwired connection is slower than wireless?
How did you find out about FTV being slower hard wired?
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It's been a known issue, but it's not totally common knowledge. There's other tidbits like you should probably use SPMC vs. Kodi and how to create an advancedsettings.xml that can improve performance, too.
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There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.
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My testing has shown the opposite. On multiple different network setups in different locations. In some network setups that could possibly be true. But I wouldn't attribute it to the FireTV.
Wow, I never heard of wired ethernet performance issues. Good to know if I ever run into issues, and good to know if I upgrade my wifi I can reliably wifi stream everything I already do. Personal experience with live TV through XBMC (MythTV + HDHomeRun backend), my hardwired FTV is flawless, but my older 802.11n 2.4Ghz connected FTV stick has buffering/stuttering issues with some of the stations. Not a true comparison to a 1080p H.264 mkv, but it sounds like if I buy a new 5ghz wifi router I might be able to get live tv working better on my stick.
Never used this on the FireTV/SPMC, but works very well @ OpenELEC:
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
I just said cache _any_ source to RAM, like 150MB (watch out as 150MB cache means *3 = 450MB RAM usage) and never had any issues after that, even on an unstable connection. You can also set how aggressive the cache should work etc, very handy tool.
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is the wired networking like many of the android and arm devices running through the usb bus? also is it 100 or 1000? reason i'm asking is because of something i've noticed, i got the ouya like a lot to use for emulators and a multimedia box. so far i like it however when play certain movies over the network from any of my nas boxes i get hiccups playing the video. However when i play from a usb stick it plays smooth. It is not my network or the nas's. It is managed switched gigabit and the nas's are qnap and synology (atom core and above) they stream to any pc fine so again i'm sure that is not it so it brings me back to the ouya's wired network causing congestion for some reason. if anyone has input on this it would be appreciated.
I also find that netflix etc runs choppy compared to my ps3
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Code:
[email protected]:/data/data/com.teslacoilsw.quicksshd/home # lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9e00
The first two are the built-in hubs. The last one seems to be just that, Ethernet controller. Or probably some combination of devices:
https://www.google.com/search?q=1d6b:0002
robinscp said:
I also find that netflix etc runs choppy compared to my ps3
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It's 100mbit and yes its usb based, had I know they we're going to cheap out and not use the tegra3 phy ethernet I'd have probably not bought it. I have no need for playing off usb attached HD media thats what my diy freenas is for. The usb controller adds a huge amount of cpu overhead and maxes out at 12MB/sec before overhead.
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chewyboy said:
is the wired networking like many of the android and arm devices running through the usb bus? also is it 100 or 1000? reason i'm asking is because of something i've noticed, i got the ouya like a lot to use for emulators and a multimedia box. so far i like it however when play certain movies over the network from any of my nas boxes i get hiccups playing the video. However when i play from a usb stick it plays smooth. It is not my network or the nas's. It is managed switched gigabit and the nas's are qnap and synology (atom core and above) they stream to any pc fine so again i'm sure that is not it so it brings me back to the ouya's wired network causing congestion for some reason. if anyone has input on this it would be appreciated.
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what i would do is check your router, and set your Ouya's Ethernet IP or mac address in the router to the Highest priority possible or if there is no priority levels you will have to set KB or MB manually. that should help. I hate using wifi for video
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what i would do is check your router, and set your Ouya's Ethernet IP or mac address in the router to the Highest priority possible or if there is no priority levels you will have to set KB or MB manually. that should help. I hate using wifi for video
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I will look into this, however having the bad feeling and now the verification that it is usb based really gets me down on this unit. Who knows maybe the cm firmware will do better but i doubt it, usb networking overhead will kill it.
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I will look into this, however having the bad feeling and now the verification that it is usb based really gets me down on this unit. Who knows maybe the cm firmware will do better but i doubt it, usb networking overhead will kill it.
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also Look for QOS or Quality of Service in your router that may have different settings like , browsing , video, p2p or files sharing, try the video or streaming option.
MrOuya said:
also Look for QOS or Quality of Service in your router that may have different settings like , browsing , video, p2p or files sharing, try the video or streaming option.
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on a switched gigabit network not going to the outside world for files just internal nas's this isn't the problem. Thanks for the advice hopefully it will help someone else.
Has anyone checked the bandwidth used on the fire tv .. especially netflix.
Mine is not working to my satisfaction, netflix on my PC on the same network streams at 3000kbps consistently while on fire tv it stays at 1000kpbs leaving it looking second rate at best.
Is there a trick to make it work or is it just not a very good device for netflix.
jarayn said:
Has anyone checked the bandwidth used on the fire tv .. especially netflix.
Mine is not working to my satisfaction, netflix on my PC on the same network streams at 3000kbps consistently while on fire tv it stays at 1000kpbs leaving it looking second rate at best.
Is there a trick to make it work or is it just not a very good device for netflix.
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You using a netflix app? Maybe it doesn't do the better connection.
For example, the UFC app say it's sending 800kbs streams to my AFTV, but it's not, the crap is so blocky I think I'm watching an illegal streaming of some UFC matches . My guess is that it think since it's a mobile app, no one needs a decent 720p stream, and like the UFC app, I'm getting around a 240p stream, if that.
I assume your AFTV is running a wired internet connection? Like the PC? If not, then you might want to also check that nothing else is using the wifi connection at the same time, because that can mess up wifi speeds.
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You using a netflix app? Maybe it doesn't do the better connection.
For example, the UFC app say it's sending 800kbs streams to my AFTV, but it's not, the crap is so blocky I think I'm watching an illegal streaming of some UFC matches . My guess is that it think since it's a mobile app, no one needs a decent 720p stream, and like the UFC app, I'm getting around a 240p stream, if that.
I assume your AFTV is running a wired internet connection? Like the PC? If not, then you might want to also check that nothing else is using the wifi connection at the same time, because that can mess up wifi speeds.
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Thanks, I am using wired connection yeah, same router as PC. Using the netflix app that came with the fire tv.
I noticed the other day while Netflix was on there were frequent but very slight lags in video playback. I can't say it's dropping frames because I've seen what that looks like--best I can describe it is the video playback sort of goes into slow motion but only for a split second (happens maybe 1 to 3 times per minute)
At first I thought it was Netflix, notoriously problematic on aftv, but today I noticed it's happening on xbmc. The files are played from my local server.
My other aftv doesn't do this. It's running the same firmware except it's on WiFi while the one with playback issues is hardwired. I bring it up in case someone thinks it's a possible network issue and not aftv related. If so how would you go about troubleshooting? Different Ethernet cable? Or maybe this is software related...any feedback is good especially if you experience similar issues. Thanks.
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I noticed the other day while Netflix was on there were frequent but very slight lags in video playback. I can't say it's dropping frames because I've seen what that looks like--best I can describe it is the video playback sort of goes into slow motion but only for a split second (happens maybe 1 to 3 times per minute)
At first I thought it was Netflix, notoriously problematic on aftv, but today I noticed it's happening on xbmc. The files are played from my local server.
My other aftv doesn't do this. It's running the same firmware except it's on WiFi while the one with playback issues is hardwired. I bring it up in case someone thinks it's a possible network issue and not aftv related. If so how would you go about troubleshooting? Different Ethernet cable? Or maybe this is software related...any feedback is good especially if you experience similar issues. Thanks.
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Ethernet is always better than wifi. Maybe its trying to cathup to the connection. Do this simple test, reboot and unhook the ethernet cable and try it with wifi and see if it still happpens. Netflix has that thing where they pay ISPs for faster connection so if it does not happen on wifi, I am guessing your ethernet connection is too good for Netflix. I know that sounds weird, but it happens.
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Ethernet is always better than wifi. Maybe its trying to cathup to the connection. Do this simple test, reboot and unhook the ethernet cable and try it with wifi and see if it still happpens. Netflix has that thing where they pay ISPs for faster connection so if it does not happen on wifi, I am guessing your ethernet connection is too good for Netflix. I know that sounds weird, but it happens.
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How would Netflix know if you're connected by Ethernet or WiFi?
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How would Netflix know if you're connected by Ethernet or WiFi?
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For one I never said anything about Netflix knowing your connection, but if you wanna get technical, every website you visit knows exactly what kind of connection you are using. Not only do they know what kind of connection you use, but they know exactly who your service provider is, what your IP address is and exactly where you are in the world, within a few feet. Also, an ethernet connection will always be faster and much more stable and consistant than your WiFi connection. Thats why I said his ethernet connection may be making it hard for the stream to catchup, in turn causing glitches in the stream. Maybe you should go back and read my reply again before you make a fool of yourself. Netflix does pay ISPs for faster speeds. They started doing it a couple years ago and it pissed the government off, cause they thought Netflix was gonna charge their customers for the extra speeds, but in the end the government allowed it and now a lot of media streaming sites are doing the same exact thing. For example, they pay a company like Verizon to let let them have direct access to their network which makes Netflix faster for its customers. All the major ISPs are now letting video sites do the same, cause the sites are paying good money to the ISPs to make their sites faster for their customers.
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Ethernet is always better than wifi. Maybe its trying to cathup to the connection. Do this simple test, reboot and unhook the ethernet cable and try it with wifi and see if it still happpens. Netflix has that thing where they pay ISPs for faster connection so if it does not happen on wifi, I am guessing your ethernet connection is too good for Netflix. I know that sounds weird, but it happens.
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Had to read it twice but what you're saying actually makes sense. My speeds are very fast. They actually test considerably higher on 5ghz than wired but usually hardwired is better because 1. It only needs to be so fast to stream 2. Less interference when it's wired.
Also, my Dad's speeds are are about 1/10 of what I get yet he streams Netflix flawlessly over WiFi. Taking that into consideration, it does seem logical faster speeds could potentially cause playback issues. But what I don't have the expertise to understand... couldn't the manufacturer of the device have some sort of governor to limit that connection?--using only what's needed for sd 720p 1080 or 4k? I'm just thinking that if what you're saying is true--and I think it might be--a lot of people would report it. Especially those with gigabyte speeds because I'd imagine they'd experience the most severe trouble.
Update--yes. The lag dissapeared when connected to WiFi. Con--When I mount drives with adbFire it only shows up as a smb share when hardwired. I have to put up with the glitch or go back to stickmount and a samba apk. But appreciate the info. Thanks!
Disregard--Double post.
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For one I never said anything about Netflix knowing your connection, but if you wanna get technical, every website you visit knows exactly what kind of connection you are using.
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Wow. I meant neither insult nor injury. It was a simple, innocent question. Try not to read a person's tone into what they type. You come across like someone who needs a hug.
Peace.
Hello,
I started using Reflector to mirror my iPad's screen to my FireTV stick. It works well, initially, but then starts to lag. I have to disconnect and reconnect it after a bit to get the screen updates on the TV to flow smoothly again.
Thinking it was the FireTV stick, I tried it on my FireTV. The same thing happens.
Is there a better AirPlay app I can load onto my FireTV that will work better than Reflector? The iPad is on a 5GHz network and the FireTV is hard-wired to a switch. Interference or wireless speed shouldn't be an issue.
Hi all,
I am rooted on version 5.0.4 and I seem to be having a lot of issues with video buffering. no matter what app I use whether Kodi, Prime Video, or streaming from my NAS drive the video seems to buffer a lot. Even from the NAS drive it seems to stop for a second or two on every movie no matter what the format is. Not sure if it has to do with the fact that Fire TV 2 is connected to a powerline adapter. Even though the Fire TV 2 internet speed test is much lower on the powerline adapter than it is connected direct to the router I still get speeds of 16 mbps. I am wondering if it is actually an issue with certain apps on lollipop. Anyone else having weird streaming issues. Also it was the same when I was on rooted 5.0.3.1
Any hints to what it might be would be appreciated. I was hoping streaming would be improved on the Fire TV 2 because of the new hardware specs, but my Fire TV 1 blows it away.
Edit: Did some further tests and it seems this Fire TV 2 does not like the powerline adapter. Connected directly to my router and internet speed tested at 51 mbps which is what it should be. Also tested a few movies and no stuttering or buffering??? weird.