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[Q] The Single Greatest Flaw of Nexus 7 Remedy????

I've had my Nexus 7 since Christmas. While I really like it, I still am VERY disappointed in it (in)ability to handle video output. Has there been ANY developments since Christmas in fixing this huge flaw? Any new hardware that will make viewing a movie from the Nexus to a TV acceptable? Any software that will improve the situation? I really am disappointed that I still have to watch videos through my Kindle (which I WAS planning to give to my daughter). I did buy a converter cord that was suggested here, but it's somewhat mediocre; odd "static" flashes, odd over-bright colors.

rebecker said:
I've had my Nexus 7 since Christmas. While I really like it, I still am VERY disappointed in it (in)ability to handle video output. Has there been ANY developments since Christmas in fixing this huge flaw? Any new hardware that will make viewing a movie from the Nexus to a TV acceptable? Any software that will improve the situation? I really am disappointed that I still have to watch videos through my Kindle (which I WAS planning to give to my daughter). I did buy a converter cord that was suggested here, but it's somewhat mediocre; odd "static" flashes, odd over-bright colors.
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Chromecast with, BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA or AllCast or LocalCast Media 2 Chromecast.

mdamaged said:
Chromecast with, BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA or AllCast or LocalCast Media 2 Chromecast.
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Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I spend a great deal of my time in an area with extremely erratic internet. I simply can't use the internet to stream, so a hard wire is required. I bought a Patuoxun Slimport MyDP, which "works", but the quality is pretty mediocre. Static, hesitancy. I was hoping that there was some sort of new hardware that kept things smooth and consistent. My old Kindle Fire HD had a much better output quality (although not perfect). Hoping to at least match it on my Nexus.

rebecker said:
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I spend a great deal of my time in an area with extremely erratic internet. I simply can't use the internet to stream, so a hard wire is required. I bought a Patuoxun Slimport MyDP, which "works", but the quality is pretty mediocre. Static, hesitancy. I was hoping that there was some sort of new hardware that kept things smooth and consistent. My old Kindle Fire HD had a much better output quality (although not perfect). Hoping to at least match it on my Nexus.
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Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
Yeah, those chinese dongles knock-offs are not the best deal, I have heard the best from people using the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG

mdamaged said:
Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
Yeah, those chinese dongles knock-offs are not the best deal, I have heard the best from people using the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG
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Thanks again. A fairly outrageous price for a connector, don't you think. Looks like my Nexus experience will be short. I'll probably go back to my Kindle. Live and learn.

rebecker said:
Thanks again. A fairly outrageous price for a connector, don't you think. Looks like my Nexus experience will be short. I'll probably go back to my Kindle. Live and learn.
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Well, you get what you pay for.
Did you see the part about those apps not using internet? They use the local lan, they don't even need internet (other than for installing them initially/license checks).

mdamaged said:
Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
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Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works? And is this possible using a Roku instead of a Chromecast (I own a Roku unit).
Thanks.

rebecker said:
Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works?
Thanks.
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Right, it's local, it gets the video from your device over your wireless router, to the chromecast, internet does not come into play at all.
Do you have a wireless router (aka wifi)? If so then all you do is set up the chromecast to attach to it, then have your N7 connect to the same wifi network, then your N7 can send to the chromecast directly, with the help of one of those apps.
If you do not have wifi access point or router, then you will of course have to buy one, initially you will need internet to get the apps and stuff, but once it's setup you can play movies/ pics/ music that is on your N7 directly to your chromecast on your TV.

rebecker said:
Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works? And is this possible using a Roku instead of a Chromecast (I own a Roku unit).
Thanks.
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if you don't have a chromecast but happen to have a PS3 or Xbox 360 you can use Skifta/Bubble UPNP to stream files from your tablet to your console to watch on tv, I use Skifta and it works flawlessly on my ps3 as mdamaged said above, no need to internet to come into play, just your local network so internet issues won't affect it :good:
as for your Roku player, they have an app to do exactly that, stream straight to it but for some reason apparently doesn't support N7 2013, but supports the 2012 version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roku.remote

DrRuckingFetard said:
if you don't have a chromecast but happen to have a PS3 or Xbox 360 you can use Skifta/Bubble UPNP to stream files from your tablet to your console to watch on tv, I use Skifta and it works flawlessly on my ps3 as mdamaged said above, no need to internet to come into play, just your local network so internet issues won't affect it :good:
as for your Roku player, they have an app to do exactly that, stream straight to it but for some reason apparently doesn't support N7 2013, but supports the 2012 version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roku.remote
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I downloaded the app you listed above. It now lists N7 2013 as compatible. I could get the pictures and music functions to work, but not videos. I have access to a massive legal catalog of MKV and MP4 movies. However, when I tried to play either type via the software I get a message that the movies are incompatible with the Roku. I guess my next move will be to borrow someones Chromecast and try it. Life shouldn't be this hard.

rebecker said:
I downloaded the app you listed above. It now lists N7 2013 as compatible. I could get the pictures and music functions to work, but not videos. I have access to a massive legal catalog of MKV and MP4 movies. However, when I tried to play either type via the software I get a message that the movies are incompatible with the Roku. I guess my next move will be to borrow someones Chromecast and try it. Life shouldn't be this hard.
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Well this Massive LEGAL collection of MKVs and mp4s are stored on what? A computer or hopefully not a hdd plugged into a router?

BrianDigital said:
Well this Massive LEGAL collection of MKVs and mp4s are stored on what? A computer or hopefully not a hdd plugged into a router?
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Not sure I understand your question. When I want to watch a movie, I simply copy it to my Nexus and watch it on my TV. The issue is quality from the nexus to the TV.

rebecker said:
Not sure I understand your question. When I want to watch a movie, I simply copy it to my Nexus and watch it on my TV. The issue is quality from the nexus to the TV.
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i am asking due to you seem to have a ps3 or roku on your network. If the movies files are stored on your computer, you can share the movie folder on your network so the ps3 or roku can see them..
Then you can simply from your tv find the movie you want to watch and leave the nexus 7 out of this

BrianDigital said:
i am asking due to you seem to have a ps3 or roku on your network. If the movies files are stored on your computer, you can share the movie folder on your network so the ps3 or roku can see them..
Then you can simply from your tv find the movie you want to watch and leave the nexus 7 out this senrio
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Thanks for your reply. I do have a Roku. Any chance you can point me to info on setting this up? My major goal is to avoid any internet streaming; need a direct network connection.

rebecker said:
Thanks for your reply. I do have a Roku. Any chance you can point me to info on setting this up? My major goal is to avoid any internet streaming; need a direct network connection.
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Just a heads up here. You can buy a slim port for less than 30$ here:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-HDMI-Adapter-Connect-enabled/dp/B00DWGB6CU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393867107&sr=1-2&keywords=slimport
I think the difference between this one and the other one linked earlier is the model difference (SP1002 vs SP1003 here) which could be a newer version of the same product.
Also if you search for something that can stream to your roku, you can try allcast here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.cast&hl=en
There's a limitation on the free version but if it works great on your device, you can buy the full version for 5 bucks I think.
Hope it helps.

zaclimon said:
Just a heads up here. You can buy a slim port for less than 30$ here:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-HDMI-Adapter-Connect-enabled/dp/B00DWGB6CU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393867107&sr=1-2&keywords=slimport
I think the difference between this one and the other one linked earlier is the model difference (SP1002 vs SP1003 here) which could be a newer version of the same product.
Also if you search for something that can stream to your roku, you can try allcast here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.cast&hl=en
There's a limitation on the free version but if it works great on your device, you can buy the full version for 5 bucks I think.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!

rebecker said:
Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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I use plex server and its app on my roku, it streams over the LAN. You'd setup the server on your laptop or PC (dual core or better recommended and 2 gigs or more of ram), and set it up, install the roku app, and it'll find the plex server on the network and you can play through that. BubbleUPNP works similarly in that it has a server (paid) that transcodes (like plex server) to allow more formats than the chromecast can accept directly.

rebecker said:
Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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For gods sakes to use Plex you do not need INTERNET to stream your movies around your house.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

rebecker said:
Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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none of the options both I and everyone else has suggested USE THE INTERNET. If you pull out your DSL connection from your modem/router, you still have a local network connection between devices via your router, and all the apps we have suggested will work perfectly. Your ISP speed has absolutely nothing to do with what you want to do.

BrianDigital said:
For gods sakes to use Plex you do not need INTERNET to stream your movies around your house.
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Yes, I now know this after some experimentation. Thanks for the response.

Mount NAS (Drobo 5N) as Source in Kodi

I have a Drobo 5N as a NAS with all of my media on it. For the life of me, I can't get Kodi to mount it as a source. I am able to see the Drobo in the list of servers but I can't get past that point. I have disabled any security on the folder share and I have also tried to manually add the SMB share with the IP address of the device but haven't had any luck. There are other protocols that can be used but I'm not sure if it should be that difficult, nor do I know how to use the other protocols. I am able to see and access my PC shares just fine. Does anybody have any ideas?
I am a newbie to Kodi and I am beyond excited to get this working. I have been using a WDTV Live Streaming Media Player for many years and this is going to take my movie experience to a whole new level if I can get it working. Any help is appreciated!

Anyone? I'm dying to get this thing working. I've had a small taste of what Kodi can do by connecting it to my PC but I need to connect it to my NAS. I'm so close but so far!
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Simply use the following connection:
smb://droboIP/share_name
Mine was smb://192.168.1.100/movies

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Simply use the following connection:
smb://droboIP/share_name
Mine was smb://192.168.1.100/movies
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I keep getting "Error - Connection timed out" even though I have a hardwired Ethernet connection! Can you help?

I don't have a Drobo 5N. I have a Synology unit. SMB was way too problematic. I use NFS instead and it works much nicer. I don't know how easy/difficult it will be to set up on your NAS.

Firestick plays some mkv files better than FireTV, why?

I have been using XBMC on my FTV that is hardwired and also have a FireTV Stick connected to 5Ghz band on my router. I was playing a 720p MKV of Interstellar. It would cause the FTV to buffer especially at the scene around 3 minutes where the cornfields are shaking from the winds.
I then play the same file wirelessly on the FireStick and it has no problems playing this same scene.
Is the video processor on the stick better than regular FTV?

I think something is wrong with your fire tv or connection.. I just watch interstellar 1080p 15 gig mkv file without any buffering issues on a wired line.
try switching to wifi.
The fire stick is much much less powerful in video and processor speed.

There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.

Speed tests have consistently showed 5ghz to be faster than wired on my network, but I keep it wired because it's generally stronger with less interference, plus my speeds are more than fast enough for 1080p.
I'd try different Ethernet cables (simplest solution first.) I did that and found a discrepancy of over 20 Mbps.

Sizzlechest said:
There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.
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OMG Thanks! I didn't every think to try the wireless on my FTV. This fixed the buffering on Intersellar MKV I was getting when I was hardwired.
That is so weird that the hardwired connection is slower than wireless?
How did you find out about FTV being slower hard wired?

yazyazoo said:
OMG Thanks! I didn't every think to try the wireless on my FTV. This fixed the buffering on Intersellar MKV I was getting when I was hardwired.
That is so weird that the hardwired connection is slower than wireless?
How did you find out about FTV being slower hard wired?
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It's been a known issue, but it's not totally common knowledge. There's other tidbits like you should probably use SPMC vs. Kodi and how to create an advancedsettings.xml that can improve performance, too.

Sizzlechest said:
There are issues with the FireTV hardwired connection that makes it SLOWER than wireless. If you did wireless on your FireTV, it would work better.
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My testing has shown the opposite. On multiple different network setups in different locations. In some network setups that could possibly be true. But I wouldn't attribute it to the FireTV.

Wow, I never heard of wired ethernet performance issues. Good to know if I ever run into issues, and good to know if I upgrade my wifi I can reliably wifi stream everything I already do. Personal experience with live TV through XBMC (MythTV + HDHomeRun backend), my hardwired FTV is flawless, but my older 802.11n 2.4Ghz connected FTV stick has buffering/stuttering issues with some of the stations. Not a true comparison to a 1080p H.264 mkv, but it sounds like if I buy a new 5ghz wifi router I might be able to get live tv working better on my stick.

Never used this on the FireTV/SPMC, but works very well @ OpenELEC:
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
I just said cache _any_ source to RAM, like 150MB (watch out as 150MB cache means *3 = 450MB RAM usage) and never had any issues after that, even on an unstable connection. You can also set how aggressive the cache should work etc, very handy tool.

Jumbo Frames on Fire TV?

I just realized something. I have a Diskstation 211J that I use as my file server. There are a few movies that always buffer, probably because it's a high bitrate. But I also just realized that I have my computers and file server configured to use jumbo frames. Is there a way to configure this on the Fire TV?
I believe the network settings for the wireless adapter MTU can be found here:
Code:
/sys/class/net/wlan0/mtu
However, I'm afraid to change it without losing connection to the FireTV

Okay, I tried this:
Code:
cat /sys/class/net/wlan0/mtu
and I got 1500 back.
Then I changed it to 9000:
Code:
echo 9000 > /sys/class/net/wlan0/mtu
and when I reran the first command, it reports back 9000. I rebooted and it went back to 1500.
EDIT: Another way to look at MTU:
Code:
ip link show dev wlan0
to set it to 9000:
Code:
ip link set mtu 9000 dev wlan0
EDIT #2:
This also shows it's set to 9000, but I can't confirm it's working:
Code:
/system/xbin/ifconfig
Can also set it with ifconfig:
Code:
/system/xbin/ifconfig wlan0 mtu 9000
Anyone know how to restart the network service?

Isn't the jumbo frame feature only supported on wired connections? I could be wrong, but if you are trying to enable it over "wlan0", it might not work, even if you set it at a higher MTU size.
And because the FTV does not have a gigabit wired connection, I think jumbo frames wouldn't work over wired as well, especially the 9120 (9K) MTU, though it might support lower sizes.

dbdoshi said:
Isn't the jumbo frame feature only supported on wired connections? I could be wrong, but if you are trying to enable it over "wlan0", it might not work, even if you set it at a higher MTU size.
And because the FTV does not have a gigabit wired connection, I think jumbo frames wouldn't work over wired as well, especially the 9120 (9K) MTU, though it might support lower sizes.
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You are correct. In fact, I'm going to try disabling jumbo frames on my file server.

I'm running my AFTV on wired ethernet and getting buffering issues like you. So, from what I'm getting out of this thread, our AFTV's do not support Jumbo Frames because it doesn't have a gigabit port?

Neo3D said:
I'm running my AFTV on wired ethernet and getting buffering issues like you. So, from what I'm getting out of this thread, our AFTV's do not support Jumbo Frames because it doesn't have a gigabit port?
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That is my understanding as far as I remember. Plus, with zero guidance from Amazon on that, you would not know the correct max size that FTV would support (if it even did with their network drivers). So you would be basically guessing or sniffing traffic to arrive at the optimum setting. Any frame mismatch along the hop from your external storage to FTV would result in fragmentation or worse, the devices might just randomly disappear on each other unless you segregate mismatched MTUs on separate VLANs. That is the extent of my very shallow understanding of that.
On a side note, I have a setup where I have an UNMANAGED switch that is hooked to my router via powerline. Then I have my FTV and Western Digital MyCloud hooked into this switch. If you have a similar setup, you might try a MANAGED switch (or a router) that might increase your throughput by routing your FTV and storage traffic for each other more optimally. Just a thought that just came to me...

jumbo frames = gig only
Managed/unmanaged I have noticed zero difference on my network.
Moving from XBMC to SPMC solved all of my buffering issues. I'm still running the 13.x version of SPMC on all my AFTV's in my house with a shared mysql library and huge server holding content.

[Q] Fire TV Stick & playing MKV files

Hi folks
Got a Fire TV Stick there and have XBMC/Kodi sideloaded. I also have a QNAP NAS which is hardwired to my Virgin Superhub 2 router. When I play most of my MKV's, which are stored on the NAS, the playback is kinda sluggish/low frame rate.
Is there anything I can do to sort this for smooth playback? Does the stick just not have the power to play the MKVs? Is it the network?

takkischitt said:
Hi folks
Got a Fire TV Stick there and have XBMC/Kodi sideloaded. I also have a QNAP NAS which is hardwired to my Virgin Superhub 2 router. When I play most of my MKV's, which are stored on the NAS, the playback is kinda sluggish/low frame rate.
Is there anything I can do to sort this for smooth playback? Does the stick just not have the power to play the MKVs? Is it the network?
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Mine plays mkv from smb shares with no problems. Are these really large files? Id suspect its a network issue. How good is the signal in the room with the stick? Maybe do a speedtest or if possible move the stick to a tv closer to the router.

KLit75 said:
Mine plays mkv from smb shares with no problems. Are these really large files? Id suspect its a network issue. How good is the signal in the room with the stick? Maybe do a speedtest or if possible move the stick to a tv closer to the router.
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They range from 2-4GB in size. The router is right beside the TV, so dont think it would be a range issue. I'll check the router setting this evening to see if I can maybe change the signal frequency to get faster speeds.
But the Fire TV Stick should play MKV files smoothly, even if they're around 4GB?

Press O on a Keyboard in Kodi, while a video is playing to see both the CPU stress (in percentages), as well as the cache fill rate, dropped frames, ...
You guys are all treating this problem like you were banging on a black box. Just use the obvious diagnostic tools baked into the platforms. Act like you weren't part of the Smartphone generation that is seen as being too dumb to do any kind of problem solving using diagnostics. Start by RTFM.

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Press O on a Keyboard in Kodi, while a video is playing to see both the CPU stress (in percentages), as well as the cache fill rate, dropped frames, ...
You guys are all treating this problem like you were banging on a black box. Just use the obvious diagnostic tools baked into the platforms. Act like you weren't part of the Smartphone generation that is seen as being too dumb to do any kind of problem solving using diagnostics. Start by RTFM.
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This may be dumb, but how do you press O without a keyboard?

The little problems you have to solve...
Because I've leaned myself out of the window in other topics so recently - I'll just name the solution in here -
If you have an Android Phone (or tablet), or an iPhone (or iPad), or access to someone who has - install the FIre TV Remote App (or any similar app) on it and it will provide you with an on screen keyboard that can also be used to send "O" to Kodi.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.storm.lightning.client.aosp&hl=en
In fact - amazon notifies you, that this App exists in the setup process of the Fire TV if I am not mistaken.
If you have only access to a PC, or Mac - there are other solutions out there. Look for them in the Kodi Wiki (xbev).
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edit: it is even possible to send the O command via adb -
adb shell input text o
Next time, you try to find one of the solutions yourself, promised? Maybe even share them. Like if this place would be something else, different to a consumer product support infrastructure.

harlekinrains said:
The little problems you have to solve...
Because I've leaned myself out of the window in other topics so recently - I'll just name the solution in here -
If you have an Android Phone (or tablet), or an iPhone (or iPad), or access to someone who has - install the FIre TV Remote App (or any similar app) on it and it will provide you with an on screen keyboard that can also be used to send "O" to Kodi.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.storm.lightning.client.aosp&hl=en
In fact - amazon notifies you, that this App exists in the setup process of the Fire TV if I am not mistaken.
If you have only access to a PC, or Mac - there are other solutions out there. Look for them in the Kodi Wiki (xbev).
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Many thanks for the info. I completely forgot about the app, as I've just been using the remote. I'll give that a whirl later to see what it says.