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Best rooting method for T-mobile SGS3 T999?

There seem to be a couple of different methods to get root over in the android dev sections for my T-mobile T999 ... Some trip the "counter" others do not.. some seem to flash an entire rom, while others seem to do it a different way? Not being a Android veteran - I'm just a little lost and wanted to ask for guidance to avoid a goof because I'm not certain of the terms and methods being used.
ANY HELP OR GUIDANCE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
Simply stated: What is the best method for getting ROOT? I have a T-mobile T999 which is already sim unlocked.
I have not idea what the "counter" is, and why its important (if in fact, it is important?)
In a perfect world, I'd like to get root, cmw and superuser by using something like superoneclick which was the way I rooted my last device. Doesn't get much easier than hooking up the phone and clicking a button and waiting
WHY DO I WANT ROOT?
I want to be able to flash some of the cool themes I'm seeing, the snap picture with volume key mod, get rid of carrier iq, and uninstall (debloat) some of the useless factory apps installed on my stock rom, and I'm anxiously awaiting a working Jellybean rom which I have no doubt will be available sooner or later.
THANKS.

Araltd said:
There seem to be a couple of different methods to get root over in the android dev sections for my T-mobile T999 ... Some trip the "counter" others do not.. some seem to flash an entire rom, while others seem to do it a different way? Not being a Android veteran - I'm just a little lost and wanted to ask for guidance to avoid a goof because I'm not certain of the terms and methods being used.
ANY HELP OR GUIDANCE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
Simply stated: What is the best method for getting ROOT? I have a T-mobile T999 which is already sim unlocked.
I have not idea what the "counter" is, and why its important (if in fact, it is important?)
In a perfect world, I'd like to get root, cmw and superuser by using something like superoneclick which was the way I rooted my last device. Doesn't get much easier than hooking up the phone and clicking a button and waiting
WHY DO I WANT ROOT?
I want to be able to flash some of the cool themes I'm seeing, the snap picture with volume key mod, get rid of carrier iq, and uninstall (debloat) some of the useless factory apps installed on my stock rom, and I'm anxiously awaiting a working Jellybean rom which I have no doubt will be available sooner or later.
THANKS.
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Counter is a method used by Samsung to see if your phone has been modified. For example, in case you need to exchange your phone with your carrier or Samsung then they would check the counter. Your warranty will automatically be voided. If this is important to you, then i suggest using the rooting method without ticking the counter number. all the rooting methods are easy as pie, its just up to you which to use. I used the one with ticking the counter because it was the very first method. There should bea counter reset work around soon so I'm not too worried
Sent from my SGH-T999

[Q] Holistic question about root on T889

Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?

doubledragon said:
Hi all. Super-happy T889 owner (since zero-day), and would be grateful for any advice with some basic questions. Been following and searching bot this and the N7100 "umbrella" thread, so thanks in advance for any help.
My experience with root is essentially CWM and Titanium Backup (no custom kernals/ROMs). I rooted my Note1 (int'l unlocked) but never ventured beyond 2.3.6 and LC1 because (i) it wasn't my primary phone and (ii) fear. My main phone on Verizon was also rooted, but more like rooted and potatoed. I switched from VZ to Tmo for the T889 and I love it. I kind of want to root even if just for CWM and Titanium, but the pure stock experience is stable and fast, and the bloatware from Tmo is not remotely close to VZ. And I'm fairly hopeful that we'll get the multi-window via OTA update.
Questions - Would root provide any fundamental performance improvements with CPU/GPU/memory usage/general kick-assery on this device?
Are others waiting to see how the multi-screen updates play out?
Am I being overly cautious because VZ made things so difficult?
Is it accurate that the "disable" capability in Jelly Bean provides some native ability to freeze applications?
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Root not do any performance , only allow root app do tweak and completely control your phone which without root you can't do ( rom tool box , titanium back up,ram manger app ...etc ).
If you try disable APP with native option come with phone, APP will come back running.( titanium backup can permenant disable,backup,restore,uninstall APP system app which without root can't do).
Over caution is good , if you go right direction then why should you worry for
If you only plan to root but keep close to stock as possible .you can try Chaifire auto root ( stock recovery include not custom CWM & remember never flash anything from stock recovery) .
About multi screen, I hope Developer will add into there custom rom.
Hope this help.

use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone

haldi15 said:
use chainfires autoroot and install adblock and setcpu and titanium backup
with setcpu you can change the governor to performance and your phone will get 6500 in quadrant lol or you can underclock it to 1ghz and stock governor to save a lot of battery power, i had my screen on for 6 hours and 30 minutes and still had 30% battery and the performance was still great
with titanium backup delete all the garbage they added to the phone
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Yeah. I decided to root with CF-Auto-Root and that was about as painless as could be. But I don't see/remember how to access CWM. Is that a separate download? CF's root guide doesn't seem to reference CWM.
Thanks much for your guidance.

auto root keeps everything stock it just roots the phone to get CWM you need to install it separately, i dont have it yet i just kept it stock

You can use the galaxy note2 toolbox to install CWM, but unless you're flashing alternative ROMS/KERNELS/MODS you dont need it.
To my knowledge, if you are rooted you cant get OTA updates normally. However if you just keep reading these forums or other tmonews sites, you'll here about the multiwindow updates and how to install. Alternatively, a dev will probably find out how to make a Tmo compatible ROM with the N7100 sw features built in before we get an update from Tmo...
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?

doubledragon said:
Thanks to all for all the knowledge. I was thinking of the CWM backup functions which let me do a complete restore via recovery mode. Is there a different solution for that these days?
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CWM , TOOLKIT , TWRP your choice.

Do Official OTA Updates and Factory Resets Work After Rooting?

Maybe someone can throw a new guy a bone here? ....
One thing I had on my jailbroken iPhone was free tethering. My Xfinity went down the other day and I realized I couldn't tether my new Android without paying AT$T. So from what I understand, like the iPhone I need to root it and then download a third party tethering app?
If I root now, I'll probably be tempted to give Black Jelly or Frost ROMs a try. I know with this 'Odin' program or 'Nandroid' backup with CWP (still figuring all this out) I can switch between ROMS pretty easily. It takes me about an hour though to download all my apps and reconfig my phone after a reset though. I think Titanium backup or something solves this, but seems to me using something like that with custom ROM, as opposed to a 'clean' install and just start installing/configuring from scratch may pose higher risk of having issues?
So my question is, if I root and install custom ROM, how hard is it to get the official update installed, or any more official future updates installed if I decide I don't want to stay on a custom ROM?
Being an experimental person and my first time to Android, I'm sure I'm going to eventually cave (for sure root) and try a custom ROM. I see SO many posts though in these ROM forums with all sorts of little issues. I want to go back to stock and get official updates if I need to.

When the official jb drops there will most likely be some debloated version on here in a day or so. If you're rooted with a custom recovery it will take no time to install. I would also seriously consider titanium backup, it makes the process much easier.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

OTA after Rooting - Yes and No....
jazee said:
Maybe someone can throw a new guy a bone here? ....
So my question is, if I root and install custom ROM, how hard is it to get the official update installed, or any more official future updates installed if I decide I don't want to stay on a custom ROM?
Being an experimental person and my first time to Android, I'm sure I'm going to eventually cave (for sure root) and try a custom ROM. I see SO many posts though in these ROM forums with all sorts of little issues. I want to go back to stock and get official updates if I need to.
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There are two issues you mention: 1) Having a custom ROM and doing an Custom OTA, and 2) OTA with stock ROM and after you you have rooted your phone.
Stock ROM and OTA after Rooting
In times past, there have been vendors that look for rooting and refused to OTA the phone. Citing it violated warantee, contract, whatever. AT&T use to do it, but with current ROMs, especially with the S3, they simply turn off the SUID bit on /system/xbin/su during the update.(They turn off the Root modification, of sorts). The current OTA of 4.0.4 does this trick. Making near impossible to root afterwards.
Usually it is always best to flash back to stock to insure you get a clean OTA.
Some versions of rooting will allow you to keep root even after OTA, but I would not count on it.
The other issue that some forget is any modification to the ROM may trip a counter which may cause OTA's to fail. In the S3 there is a counter on how many times the ROM has been flashed by custom software. Once it is tripped, any warantee you have on the device is voided. You can see the information when you set your phone into flash mode.
There are programs to reset the counter, and other methods, but it gets pretty ugly and you can hard brick your phone in some cases. Just use them with care.
Custom ROM and OTA after Rooting
With custom ROM's rooting is the norm. OTA's will usually not affect them. In fact some OTA's will include updated 'su' programs. There are some custom ROM's that are not able to OTA.

So it sounds to me like if I plan on rooting to get the free tethering, I should always wait until there's a stock ROM available here and manually install it? That way, I don't lose my root and I don't increase the counter unnecessarily?
Thanks for your help.

SM-P600

Hi All
Let me start with few good things here You guys are amazing helping and providing tweaks for us:good:
I am Nexus user. I have Installed Custom Recovery, Flashed ROMs and rooted my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. This is my First Samsung Tablet. I have waited enough for Nexus 10 (2). I finally bought SM-P600.
I was trying to find an Guide with links for Unlocking bootloader and Updating firmware and then flash Custom recovery for this but coudnt figure it out
I have been reading lots of things about Knox and counters related to it.
Can anyone Please help me find answers straight.
1) Any Rooting and Custom Recovery tools or ADB commands without Hitting the KNOX counter {Just In case IF I wanted to return it} If not then which one you recommend ?
By the Way I found few posts related to Rooting Which has confused me more. I used to use Chainfire SUROOT:
Rooting using CF-AUTO Root
Universal Root de la Vega
2) If I Root and want to use Stock ROM of SM-P600 will all apps work normally or any known issues with it ?
3) Is Odin any tool which everyone is taking about ? I am not sure about it Can you provide any links to its dev for more info. Found it about in a Post to return to STOCK ?
4) Are these ROMS and apps Odexed or Deodexed ROM?
5) Any Dependencies for Firmware and with any of the above questions. I mean In Universal Root I saw they were talking about certain version of firmware. Also Should I update the latest firmware and do a Nandriod backup ?
6) Also read that once KNOX counter goes up, I wont get any OTA ? My Plan is I will use it till next Nexus and will give it to parents with stock ROM. If I am using I can always use an Custom Rom and get updates. But for parents I want to return it to stock so that they can easily update when OTA is available.
I would like to make one more suggestion to MOD's Please Pin the Guides like the Rooting and stuff like Return to Stock which are quite common and useful so that its easy for newbies( aka for Samsung) like me.
Thanks
Zaib.

1. This is not really a single question with a single answer I think vaguely what you are asking is if you can root without tripping knox?
Nope. Not at this time.
2. If you use CF-Auto-Root you'll likely find that the vast majority of applications keep working without issue. Of those that don't, a handful you can manage back to a working state with various tweaks, but there are a few that are probably gone for good. You can basically kiss all the Samsung hub apps goodbye, these will start claiming they are not supported in your country even if they were working perfectly prior to rooting, some may continue working for a short time after but eventually something leaks and your access is cut. Screen mirroring will no longer work though this can be fixed with a small zip file flash. OTA updates are also gone.
Forget all the talk about 'triangle away' fixing any of this, it hasn't for me.
3. Odin is a tool that is able to flash firmware files or parts thereof to your device. Heimdall is an alternative suite of applications, while there is a GUI for it, it seems fairly hit and miss on Linux these days, I've never had much luck with it, on the other hand the command line tools work perfectly fine.
Once you trip Knox, there's no turning back! You won't lose your warranty in any meaningful way, but you may end up having to argue about it and drag in government regulators to get your tablet repaired free of charge depending on the dealer response.
4. I don't think this is particularly relevant to the SM-P600. My subjective opinion would be to stick with the bog standard Samsung ROM. If you want cool themes there are a multitude of launchers, Xposed takes care most other things you might ever care to tweak.
5. You have one choice. CF-Auto-Root. Backups are healthy.
6. True, but you'll still be able to flash via Odin so it doesn't really mean much of anything. Once you trip Knox, you can also kiss OTA updates goodbye as well.

What to do
My tab crash while flashing twrp

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What to do
My tab crash while flashing twrp
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How are you flashing TWRP, through recovery or Odin?

Want STOCK ROOT for Note 2 with 4.4.2 after OTA from AT&T

I am looking to just get ROOT without any changes in the stock kernel.
I don't want the weird name sounding ROM's or any of that.
Just some way to get root so I can load Titanium Backup and FREEZE the AT&T bloatware
I just go the OTA today (11/14/14) when I turned my phone on. It's the AT&T SGH-I317
and now say
Android 4.4.2
Build Number
KOT49H.I317UCUCNJ1
Device Status
Official
So is there a quick and easy way to do this?
I use a iMac BUT I can boot into Windows 7 Ultimate also (which from rooting phones before I usually always go that route).
Any help/directions would be appreciated.
Also this, who comes up with those weird names for different ROM's that NEVER really explain, in plain old English, what they do?
I can't (or don't want to) learn the syntax lingo used to find a working ROM that does just a simple thing, give you ROOT, even after reboots/yank battery/etc.
Maybe a one-click solution?
thanks :fingers-crossed:
philmiami

You should try CF Autoroot

any confirmation that CF root works on 4.4.2 with NJ1 OTA update/

as soon as someone gets a root to stick
and I mean just standard, stock adding su to the mix
post the steps as to how you did it
a one click root would of course be the best......
but at least tell us how you did it, and screen shots to show would help too.
thanks
philmiami

I haven't gotten root with Odin yet. No brick in and everything shows custom but US throws an error