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[Q]ODIN and root

does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.

zaid98 said:
does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.
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ODIN is to be use on standard updates on stock ROM. Normally you can get it through www.sammobile.com/firmware/
Root ROM like CM9 by Arco and others variation such as Paranoid Android by Doomsday94 must be on rooted phone. This link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317394) will helps you how to root. I suggest you read through these steps.

you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not

zaid98 said:
you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not
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You seems to be new here. He's answer was right but since you cannot relate to what he said, the simple answer for your question is
"No."
If you have more question, follow them up.

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Anything on a computer has full access to android devices. So odin and other apps like that for computers will be able to do anything to your device if it reqiures download mode. Download mode is basicly rhe first piece of already rooted (you could say) equiptment on a phone that anyone could access.
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zaid98 said:
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Odin does not need root. It's a standard software from Samsung to updates/upgrade/downgrade stock ROM or even flash baseband (upgrade/downgrade). But in order to use ODIN, your phone must be on download mode.
I hope this is simple enough for you to try. Again, please read my first post comments.

if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?

melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I've been trying to figure out what you really mean but I really don't understand.
In one way or another, you will be needing both root and CWM if you're to use your phone to the fullest. I strongly suggest to do the two things.

i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.

necrohades said:
i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.
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Anything that isnt download mode always requires root if it involves modifying the /system
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melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I think what this guy meant was: If I'm not rooted, but can flash CWM using ODIN, what's the purpose of rooting?
Assuming I translated his question correctly, here's my answer :
Flashing a recovery (RZR, CWM) or a ROM (BC2, Kez, BN, ArcoICS) is like installing Windows 7 on a PC: You don't need to know the password of the Administrator account of the previous OS; just boot the Setup DVD, and it has full unfettered access to the whole PC.
Rooting a phone is unlocking its capability. It's like resetting the administrator password of a PC, so that you can install things on it.
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Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.

NigthWolf23 said:
Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.
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Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
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gmaster1 said:
Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?
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Not a problem, but u can't root your device with cwm6, only with cwm5 or stock recovery
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Flashing Recovery Problem!

RESOLVED SEE POST #6
Hey guys,
I am having trouble flashing a custom recovery (TWRP) to be specific on my brothers Note 2. I was able to easily do it with my phone but I didnt update OTA to the latest ATT software.
I have the latest samsung drivers installed too.
So in general.
1. My brother updated OTA
2. I use odin to try to flash TWRP via PDA
3. It says success but when I reboot into recovery it goes into the stock android recovery instead of the custom one
4. ??? perplexed

is your [brothers] phone rooted? (you didn't mention that in the post). if it is, the easiest way to install TWRP is to download GooManager from the Play Store and, once installed, choose Menu->Install OpenRecoveryScript.

cortez.i said:
is your [brothers] phone rooted? (you didn't mention that in the post). if it is, the easiest way to install TWRP is to download GooManager from the Play Store and, once installed, choose Menu->Install OpenRecoveryScript.
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He is not rooted. He is stock from AT&T but he said he did an OTA update a week or two ago.
I actually tried the GooManager to install TWRP but it said it installed twrp but it goes into stock android recovery
I'm not sure if this helps or not but when I load into stock android recovery it keeps "manually loading CSC"

mc704 said:
He is not rooted. He is stock from AT&T but he said he did an OTA update a week or two ago.
I actually tried the GooManager to install TWRP but it said it installed twrp but it goes into stock android recovery
I'm not sure if this helps or not but when I load into stock android recovery it keeps "manually loading CSC"
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so i take it [your] phone is rooted, because you have a custom recovery installed. my understanding is that the device must be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. that's why installing TWRP via GooManager didn't work.

cortez.i said:
so i take it [your] phone is rooted, because you have a custom recovery installed. my understanding is that the device must be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. that's why installing TWRP via GooManager didn't work.
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what about ODIN doesn't it root the phone when you flash a custom recovery?
on my phone all I had to do was flash via twrp via odin and it did everything for me...
this isn't the case for my brother's phone so im a little confused

mc704 said:
what about ODIN doesn't it root the phone when you flash a custom recovery?
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ODIN doesn't root your phone. it's the package/file that you flash with ODIN that roots your device. you didn't mention the method you used to root your phone.
mc704 said:
on my phone all I had to do was flash via twrp via odin and it did everything for me...
this isn't the case for my brother's phone so im a little confused
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flash what via TWRP? you need to reference the methods you used to flash your device, e.g., link to post. it's difficult to help without having more info. in my case i used the CF Root method which does root your phone by using ODIN to flash a package that installs SuperSU binary and APK (app that provides root) and a Stock recovery. This took less than 30 seconds. afterwards, i added my GMail account to my device, installed GooManager from the PlayStore and then used GooManager to install TWRP. hope this is helpful.

cortez.i said:
ODIN doesn't root your phone. it's the package/file that you flash with ODIN that roots your device. you didn't mention the method you used to root your phone.
flash what via TWRP? you need to reference the methods you used to flash your device, e.g., link to post. it's difficult to help without having more info. in my case i used the CF Root method which does root your phone by using ODIN to flash a package that installs SuperSU binary and APK (app that provides root) and a Stock recovery. This took less than 30 seconds. afterwards, i added my GMail account to my device, installed GooManager from the PlayStore and then used GooManager to install TWRP. hope this is helpful.
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I see. Sorry for not being specific
When I worked on my phone. I installed the latest samsung drivers on the main website, used Odin 3.07, flashed TWRP 2.3 by PDA, and it was rooted and the custom recovery worked awesome (I did it similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHZ535L7is)
However this process does not work with my brothers note 2. Which is why im confused.... I assuming TWRP auto rooted for my phone but it didn't for my brother's phone?
I will definitely give your method a try and post back. Thanks for putting up with a newbie like me! :laugh:

mc704 said:
I see. Sorry for not being specific
When I worked on my phone. I installed the latest samsung drivers on the main website, used Odin 3.07, flashed TWRP 2.3 by PDA, and it was rooted and the custom recovery worked awesome (I did it similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHZ535L7is)
However this process does not work with my brothers note 2. Which is why im confused.... I assuming TWRP auto rooted for my phone but it didn't for my brother's phone?
I will definitely give your method a try and post back. Thanks for putting up with a newbie like me! :laugh:
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no worries... i'd hate to see you fubar your brothers phone, lol. anyway, the method used in that video appears to be created by ChainFire for the N7100, which is the international version of the Note 2. the method i referenced - also developed by ChainFire - is specific to the AT&T and Canadian versions of the Note 2. if there's one thing I've learned in my years on xda, it's to make sure that you play with stuff that's compatible with your device. several of today's devices go by the same consumer friendly name (e.g.,Galaxy S 3, Note 2) but have different internals (e.g., chips). if you flash an incompatible ROM, you could end up with a nice paperweight. hope you and your brother enjoy your phones.

cortez.i said:
no worries... i'd hate to see you fubar your brothers phone, lol. anyway, the method used in that video appears to be created by ChainFire for the N7100, which is the international version of the Note 2. the method i referenced - also developed by ChainFire - is specific to the AT&T and Canadian versions of the Note 2. if there's one thing I've learned in my years on xda, it's to make sure that you play with stuff that's compatible with your device. several of today's devices go by the same consumer friendly name (e.g.,Galaxy S 3, Note 2) but have different internals (e.g., chips). if you flash an incompatible ROM, you could end up with a nice paperweight. hope you and your brother enjoy your phones.
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just a quick update.
I flashed CF-autoroot, TWRP, and a custom rom! Everything works great!
Thanks for the help!

[Q] rooting SGH-T999 with Skipsoft

I've read as much as I can and I just need a little more help. I want to be able to root my T-Mobile Galaxy S3, SGH-T999.
1. Is there any other way to pull files from /data/data without rooting?
2. Can I just do a simple root and then later root with CWM or TWRP using another option?
3. I thought rooted was rooted, what is the need for "insecure boot"? Is that the only way to get a file image backup of my partitions?
4. None of the rooting options in the Skipsoft Android Toolkit wipe the device, correct?
5. Is the only way to be able to "recover" back to stock by installing a "custom recovery"?
All of the options include "custom recovery". What if I just want to root the device and install a custom recovery later? Or it custom recovery included in all the options so I can get back to stock if I mess up? Thanks!

I am not sure why you'd need to go to such extent.
By your question on Insecure Kernel, I assume, you have Stock 4.3 update. If so, please flash SuperSU Zip via Custom Recovery. You can Also flash Root66 of 4.3 (UVUEMJC ) to get Root as well. None of these methods are destructive and make you loose your data.
As to your other questions, /data/data should be accessible read only to Good File explorers such as ES File Explorer. My Backup Pro should be able to backup those files too. Insecure boot is needed to root as SELINUX Enforcing will not let you have Stable Root. Best Flash ATT Insecure Kernel Posted on this sub forum. I don't understand what you mean by "Recover to Stock".

can't do anything without root
I tried ES File explorer and 2 others, they show /data/data as blank. Most everywhere I've looked says you have to have root

In that case please post your Current Android version and what you see under Baseband. What step we take next depends on this information.

rooting galaxy
perseus71 said:
in that case please post your current android version and what you see under baseband. What step we take next depends on this information.
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4.3, t999uvuenc2

fdecker said:
4.3, t999uvuenc2
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Root 66 Will not work you will need Auto Root, CWM/TWRP and Update SuperSU for a complete root.
CF-Auto-Root-d2tmo-d2tmo-sght999.tar
openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-d2tmo
UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93
DE-SAMSUNGNIZER_KNOX_REMOVAL_SCRIPT_V1.0
For a suceed root and Knox remove.

Thanks!
jmberumenb said:
Root 66 Will not work you will need Auto Root, CWM/TWRP and Update SuperSU for a complete root.
CF-Auto-Root-d2tmo-d2tmo-sght999.tar
openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-d2tmo
UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93
DE-SAMSUNGNIZER_KNOX_REMOVAL_SCRIPT_V1.0
For a suceed root and Knox remove.
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Thanks, this is great. I rooted the same model phone that was on OS 4.1.2 by uploading root66 with Odin and it worked in one step. I see now that root66 is not the way to go on the 4.3 phone just yet. I will follow your tips. I see too that I have to get rid of Knox and make sure the recovery partition does not get reset. Think I should put busybox out there too, or with TWRP and SuperSU do I have all I need?
Thank you very much for your help!

fdecker said:
Thanks, this is great. I rooted the same model phone that was on OS 4.1.2 by uploading root66 with Odin and it worked in one step. I see now that root66 is not the way to go on the 4.3 phone just yet. I will follow your tips. I see too that I have to get rid of Knox and make sure the recovery partition does not get reset. Think I should put busybox out there too, or with TWRP and SuperSU do I have all I need?
Thank you very much for your help!
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I used the TWRP and SuperSU method no problems so far.

TWRP and SuperSU
jmberumenb said:
I used the TWRP and SuperSU method no problems so far.
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I'll give that a try then.

busybox?
One last question: Would you load busybox as well?

fdecker said:
One last question: Would you load busybox as well?
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Nah I wouldn't unless its required by your Rom or something.

Galaxy S3 T-Mobile SGH-T999 root fail

Hola,
I am trying to root my sg3 t-mobile, I used Odin to install clockwork and everything went ok (It said Pass). Then i tried install CWM-SuperSU-v0.87 to gain superuser access but I keep receiving the message when I install from recovery:
e signature verification failed
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and the phone reboots. I used these files for rooting from this tutorial.
Can you help me?

Wow! That is very very old! You should read the sticky threads and search the General and FaQ sections for more recent info.
Also search xda for SuperSU and you'll find the version you should be flashing is 2.46. (Probably all you need)
Or, depending on your firmware build, you can just use Towelroot. (Page 1 in general section)
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manual root
The thing is that I want to install manually root access because I want to install clockworkmod and a costum ROM. Although I installed towelroot as you mentioned and I granted root access, now if install a costum ROM the towelroot app will be deleted so I loose root access right?
I also tried flashing SuperSu 2.46 before towelroot but still, no root access.
Thnx.

Any rom you flash will be rooted so you don't have to worry about that. Just flash your recovery and then flash your rom. That's it.
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rooting SG3-T MOBILE without using pc.
Installed Towelroot
Installed Rom Manager -> Clockworkmod
WIPE DALVIK/ CACHE/ FACTORY RESET
Installed CM12 -> GAPPS5.1
BINGO. thnx

Rooting is not required to flash a custom recovery and custom ROM.

audit13 said:
Rooting is not required to flash a custom recovery and custom ROM.
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Then,what's the root for? So we can just copy the roms/recovery zips into our sd and flash them?

Root allows you to read\write the \system partition, and parts if /data that are also protected. It only affects things when booted into the android OS. There are lots of things you can do with it. Debloat, modify, tweak, etc.
Pretty much all custom roms are already rooted, and all you need to flash them is a custom recovery.
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How to remove Root from Galaxy Tab S?

I bought a second hand Samsung Galaxy Tab S a few months ago and it has been working fine.
However, when I looked at version of Android then seems a bit old (5.0.2) and when I did a check for updates it said that it couldn't update because "The operating system on your device has been modified in an unauthorised way". When I checked then it seems that the device has been rooted.
A quick search suggested I should run SuperSU to remove the root. So, I had to download and install this, but, when I run it says "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?" - if I do then I get another message "If you have a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that can be used to (try to) install the SU binary" and gives me a choice of Normal or TWRP/CWM. I am struggling to know how to proceed.
So, should it be possible to remove the root and still preserve all my data, apps, settings, etc?
If so, is SuperSu the way to go or are there other tools I should look at, such as Kingo Android Root?
Or, am I faced with rebuilding with a stock ROM?
Thanks

There is no update. 5.0.2 is the latest.

ashyx said:
There is no update. 5.0.2 is the latest.
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OK, thanks for info.
However, I would still like to remove Root and would appreciate advice on this, please!

MysteryMan1 said:
OK, thanks for info.
However, I would still like to remove Root and would appreciate advice on this, please!
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If your root manager is supersu then it has the option to unroot in it's settings.
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3DSammy said:
If your root manager is supersu then it has the option to unroot in it's settings.
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I've tried to fire up SuperSU, but, run into problems, as described in my initial post, and this is what I need to resolve.
Any ideas?

MysteryMan1 said:
... A quick search suggested I should run SuperSU to remove the root. So, I had to download and install this, but, when I run it says "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?" - if I do then I get another message "If you have a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that can be used to (try to) install the SU binary" and gives me a choice of Normal or TWRP/CWM. I am struggling to know how to proceed.
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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the end goal. As stated Android v5.0.2 is the latest non-custom firmware available. As a previous owner has unlocked the bootloader and seems to have flashed a SuperSu version that modification is blocking any OTA update to v5.0.2. It is also clear your trying to avoid loosing user data.
Would it be acceptable to be rooted and use a different method to apply the latest Samsung stock firmware for your region? If the answer is yes install a TWRP recovery for your device model but you'll loose your warranty by tripping KNOX (you may already be in that state). Follow the instructions in the TabS TWRP thread.
Then finish the SuperSU install (where your stuck today). Then install Flashfire. With Flashfire and the downloaded latest Samsung firmware package you can flash the boot and system images to update your install then use ODIN to update the Bootloader image from that download firmware. You could also flash the recovery image but that would overwrite TWRP and in your case I don't see the point. Flashfire needs the whole Samsung firmware file to be available on the device itself unlike when using ODIN to flash the Bootloader image.
As I'm rooted but retained my warranty I use FlashFire and ODIN to update to the latest stock firmware and never loose user data. Unfortunately to root and not trip KNOX I did wipe my user data that first time so it does not seem to be an option for you.
Hope that gives you some ideas. In your current state it maybe as simple as completing the SuperSU install (assuming a custom recovery (TWRP/CM) is already installed) then using Flashfire and ODIN as described.
Good luck

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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the end goal. As stated Android v5.0.2 is the latest non-custom firmware available. As a previous owner has unlocked the bootloader and seems to have flashed a SuperSu version that modification is blocking any OTA update to v5.0.2. It is also clear your trying to avoid loosing user data.
Would it be acceptable to be rooted and use a different method to apply the latest Samsung stock firmware for your region? If the answer is yes install a TWRP recovery for your device model but you'll loose your warranty by tripping KNOX (you may already be in that state). Follow the instructions in the TabS TWRP thread.
Then finish the SuperSU install (where your stuck today). Then install Flashfire. With Flashfire and the downloaded latest Samsung firmware package you can flash the boot and system images to update your install then use ODIN to update the Bootloader image from that download firmware. You could also flash the recovery image but that would overwrite TWRP and in your case I don't see the point. Flashfire needs the whole Samsung firmware file to be available on the device itself unlike when using ODIN to flash the Bootloader image.
As I'm rooted but retained my warranty I use FlashFire and ODIN to update to the latest stock firmware and never loose user data. Unfortunately to root and not trip KNOX I did wipe my user data that first time so it does not seem to be an option for you.
Hope that gives you some ideas. In your current state it maybe as simple as completing the SuperSU install (assuming a custom recovery (TWRP/CM) is already installed) then using Flashfire and ODIN as described.
Good luck
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Thank you for your very helpful and comprehensive reply. I can't profess to understanding all of it, but, I am sure I will get there eventually!
I shall follow your suggestion of trying to get get SuperSU installed first.
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If you want to go back to stock just flash the latest firmware with odin.