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Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
I like the idea. How about xtc clip? Would it work with this boot? Or maybe we can write a petition to htc or do the while fb thing when they changed their mind and get us gungerbread. U would not mind even paying to get it unlocked.
Im sure if all of us donated to alpharev or unrevoked and get them to start working on it asap its possible?
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Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
I spoke to htc support and by looks of things our device is not on their list for unloocking bootloader, so we might not be lucky.
I guess wait for alpharev or unrevoked to come up with something.
So no one knows if xtc clip would work
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s3rvus said:
Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
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The update is still available. They have just changed the webpage.
It on the same page as source code downloads
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I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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+1 on this. Its simply against theyr policy they decide to unlock bootloaders and then they release a new hboot and even developer one and baam LOCKED
+1
alpharev + unrevoked >
http://revolutionary.io/
hope they achieve solution on this soon
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Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Meaple said:
Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
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Same thought.
Getting htc to unlock it would be much better than hacks imo.
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08r3308 said:
Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Can you give source, please?
Check with customer service / book it in , depending who does it in your country/state.
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This page has an upcoming link to download a boot loader unlocker from hTC.
I would find it rather surprising if they have made an exception in this program for just the Desire. Why would they?
Not from that page but go to your htc repair centre and they will downgrade. Im waiting on confirmation from the repair centre
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Maybe htc thought like this: "do you people want so much the gingerbread update? Ok you will get the update but, as you wish so much it, you can't go back to froyo anymore! F** you and ur gingerbread update and go buy some new htc devices"
Regarding the bootloader there is a team that create super locked bootloaders, a team that is creating the web tool to unlock it, and the htc head boss that say "htc sensation? ok super blocked bootloaders and possibility to unlock it via web, htc desire? hm ok only super locked bootloaders, we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
Even more strange would be if htc pays good money to the service centers (here in Sweden at least this is third party, and not htc firms) to unlock boot loaders if they could have a web tool do it!
gerhard_wa said:
I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
andQlimax said:
Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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I am quite convinced that the boot loader lock is pretty much the same for all devices and they just have to include (or exclude) the spec for all models.
They do not have to hack it, after all, they have written the source code themselves!
ok
so, can anyone confirm that unrevoked or any other group is working on it?
Hey guys,
I'm due to receive my HTC One X later this week, direct from Orange UK. Big issue for me is the fact that the handset will be Orange bloatware branded. Now I've heard that their firmware isn't actually too bad and has had little customisation. However, what I am dubious of is the fact that Orange take MONTHS to release firmware updates... Incredibly frustrating.
SO, all I should like to do, is get my HOX running the plain and simple stock firmware. So I can receive OTA updates direct from HTC
Now, I'm very new to HTC. This is my first HTC phone since my run in with an old Window's PDA phone around 6 years ago... I became very gifted in the art of debranding and customising Samsung Android phones within the past two years, however HTC is a different game entirely!
Please, can someone give me a simple (I mean really dumbed down) version of how to debrand my HTC, how to root it (if necessary) and anything else in between! I would really, really appreciate it. I am a Mac OS X user, so Mac instructions would obviously be preferable
Thank you all very much for your time!
Eddy
MOD Can I have this moved to Q&A please?
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
Fightspit said:
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
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Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
Eddzz!! said:
Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
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You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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how would this work?
i too am due to get a voda branded HOX which I want to debrand. I'm not interested in rooting or anything... all I want to do is put stock HTC firmware on there which would receive stock unbranded HTC OTA updates as and when they are released....
is there any way to do this yet bearing in mind that I am not fussed about rooting?
Without s-off you can't debrand, you would have to go custom but then you wouldn't get ota updates
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agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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Like I said, I am completely new to all of this!
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
Eddzz!! said:
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
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Wait to see if somebody can change the bootloader to S-OFF mode and then alter your CID if you want to use the stock HTC firmware and have OTA updates.
Custom firmware can track the latest/greatest HTC firmware versions anyway so you'd get roughly the same end result.
i found this over at modaco but am not sure what exactly has been done:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/page__gopid__1934961#entry1934961
Hi everyone i have htc one x running on stock JB with cid 32..
i want to root my cell and want to install custom rom on it...
my question is that is that any other way to unlock my bootloader other than htc dev or after unlocking from htc dev is there any other way to completely stock to claim my warranty..??
Youtube
There is many videos on youtube showing you how to root htc one x here is one i found helpful:
http://onexroot.com/category/one-x-root/
Look down the list to find the one u need
hope this helps.
buddy i want to know is there is any other way to unlock the bootloader other than htcdev??
after rooting can i able to claim my warranty if i needed??
rakesh595160 said:
buddy i want to know is there is any other way to unlock the bootloader other than htcdev??
after rooting can i able to claim my warranty if i needed??
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No and no.
There are some Chinese websites that can unlock without using htcdev but once you unlock. the phone will know that it has been unlocked.
If you relock. The boot loader will say relocked rather than locked so HTC will know that it has been done. Even if you don't use their tools to do it
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Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?
iLeoable said:
Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?
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Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.
So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/
iLeoable said:
So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/
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Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?
dottat said:
Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?
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Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
iLeoable said:
Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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On the vzw m9 sunshine support will come when they figure out how to enable root and flip the s flag off all in one shot.
Your other alternative is to buy the phone and send it to a user who has a Java card. That process involves putting a special card in your SD slot and running see commands. You will end up with s-off and bootloader unlocked with that.
iLeoable said:
Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.
bakemcbride21 said:
With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.
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Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.
dottat said:
Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.
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+1 for @bschram - Sorted my Verizon M9 a week ago --- Pre-root backup, S-off, install TWRP, root, and unlock bootloader.
Ready for me to install custom Rom
dottat said:
Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.
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Full service crew!
Only problem you will have afterwards is finding a Verizon CM12 ROM. Because as of now, this is what we have to work with...nothing. And from what I've heard, cm is no longer unifying devices. All I'm saying is its gonna be a bit of a road. However, if you don't mind waiting and running a sense based custom ROM for a while, then get it and have @dottat unlock everything for ya! I'm actually about to send him mine!
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.
iLeoable said:
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.
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highly doubt that...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/17/5911917/ps3-hacker-geohotz-hired-by-google
just I want to know the unlock bootloader for all devices or only from HTC.com
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The Verizon version will not be able to be bootloader unlocked via HTCdev. That I can guarantee .
NICG said:
The Verizon version will not be able to be bootloader unlocked via HTCdev. That I can guarantee .
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the Verizon version will be unlockable by other means, like sunshine pretty fast after release most likely.
afuller42 said:
the Verizon version will be unlockable by other means, like sunshine pretty fast after release most likely.
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Very well could be, but not a definite. If you tell people that I would make that clear. Sunshine took a year for the M9 without using HTCdev or a Javacard. The same method might work on the HTC 10, things have changed it might but no one knows for sure yet. On top of that sunshine is s-0ff not just root and unlocked bootloader. All 3 things are different. All I can say is do your research.